Democracy like the one, you have in Nigeria right now?

AmazonTopaz:


I am not into your silly propaganda if you so much love Russia or do not value democracy you can be on your next flight to Russia and worship the Stalins and Lenins of this world.

seunny4lif:

You know nothing
You want me to believe Russia is the problem right?
Tell that to those countries the USA have destroyed.

You are just a clown.Stick to the issue at hand if you so much love Russia go there the west and it's allies are not the ones threatening the peace of the world so explain to me how Putin drumming the beats of war is the fault of the west?

seunny4lif:
Democracy like the one, you have in Nigeria right now?

I am sure you would have preferred communism and socialism then , why not move to those countries instead since they are better than democracy?

You said Russia is the problem.
Now tell that to those countries, your almighty Democracy country have destroyed.
Your democracy countries dropped more bombs in Vietnam than in WW2.

Why did Ukraine military stopped all the shelling in Donetsk and Luhansk immediately Russia signed them those papers

AmazonTopaz:

You are just a clown.Stick to the issue at hand if you so much love Russia go there the west and it's allies are not the ones threatening the peace of the world so explain to me how Putin drumming the beats of war is the fault of the west?

AmazonTopaz:


If only you could take out time to read on the USSR or watch videos on YouTube you would not be praying and hoping for such I am very sure that you would support Nazi Germany coming back right?

You people should use your head for once.

all propaganda. Communism is the last hope for humanity. May communism never be denied us

It's official now, Russia has formally recognized the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine shot itself on the foot for playing the bitch to please American and NATO diabolic geopolitical games, forgetting that Russia is the grandmaster of this game. This is just the beginning of the end for Ukraine. Soonest, other regions will follow suit. Watch out for false flag attacks in places like Odessa and other Russian speaking regions in western axis of Ukraine....something tells me whether Russia like it or not, something would be done that will trigger it to invade formally...it's only a matter of time. The US didn't move its embassy headquarters (which houses CIA operations in Ukraine) from Kiev to Lviv for nothing...Something big is coming.

AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia will be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.

AmazonTopaz:


Go and listen to Putin's speech.
Stop sympathising with dictator Putin, Ukraine is an independent state to decide what it wants Putin is loathing why the USSR broke and does not believe in their rights to independence it is not about NATO he wants the soviet union.

If Russia was so good and kept to the part of their agreement former USSR states will not want to align with the west or NATO.

He didn't listen to it, just pure deflection and propaganda. Putin himself said that it was madness for former Soviet republics to be independent. If they liked Russia so much, they won't be aligning with the EU and NATO for protection.

AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

And what will the US and their allies do to russia? Does biden have any balls? China just imposed new sanctions on the US over Taiwan and the spineless Biden is yet to respond, is it Putin that he will challenge? North korea has also continued with it's missile programs and nothing from biden. They all know that there's a clueless coward in the white house and they are all taking advantage of it to advance their causes. Mark my words, The US will do nothing even if Putin invades Ukraine apart from blowing hot air and imposing infective sanctions that will have no serious effect on Russia

scully95:
This is the Georgia 2.0 I was lecturing one(sanpipita) anglozoo wanabe fanboy on here https://www.nairaland.com/6989076/russia-finally-invades-ukraine-fires#110278149 What it means - This will give Russia the power to send in peacekeepers. All the leaders in Donbass have to do is write a letter asking Russia for help. Lobtan! Conflict will remain frozen as the Anglozionist empire cannot afford to even lose half of Ukraine's pie.

OP: It's not to recognise anymore. Russia has officially recognised Donbass, republic of Lugansk and Donestk as sovereign nations.

Of course after all the chest beating, Russia and Putin are hiding behind separatists to fracture Ukraine, such a weak move, thought they face the world in a war

olugabbie:


NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.

Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose. The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.


Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathising with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.

My goodness did you see NATO force former states of the USSR to join or they went on their own will, majority of Ukrainians want NATO and the fact that Putin is still nostalgic about the USSR is enough proof of that have you asked yourself why former states of the USSR are interested in joining the west why not ask yourself that since you think Russia is so good that they are running away from it or they should swallow their will because of one man called Putin.
Give me a break

edmaraja:

And what will the US and their allies do to russia? Does biden have any balls? China just imposed new sanctions on the US over Taiwan and the spineless Biden is yet to respond, is it Putin that he will challenge? North korea has also continued with it's missile programs and nothing from biden. They all know that there's a clueless coward in the white house and they are all taking advantage of it to advance their causes. Mark my words, The US will do nothing even if Putin invades Ukraine apart from blowing hot air and imposing infective sanctions that will have no serious effect on Russia

Please keep quiet since you don't know how diplomacy and foreign politics work first of all who and start a class on world politics.

You talk like as if Trump was any better when in fact he was a puppet being friends with dictators and abandoning allies.

I am not marking your word because it is irrelevant to the discussion

useni1:
all propaganda. Communism is the last hope for humanity. May communism never be denied us

It is only your last hope don't mistake free thought for ignorance.

Even the word propaganda was first used by the Soviets you can head to China but don't take the rest of the world with you.

AmazonTopaz:


Well I am not Putin listen to his speech he dreams about it everyday and in his head he sees that as a possibility.

And a dictator will go to any lengths to achieve that.

Putin dreams about nothing! You're just regurgating typical mainstream media crappy narrative. The Soviet Union is gone and all in Russia admits that, but it's only in the delusional heads of crazy mainstream western media covens is Putin dreaming of bringing back the Soviet Union.

Putin is a dictator, really? How convenient for you to say....Then what should we call guys like Trudeau and Let's Go Brandon that forces vaccine mandate on people who don't want it? Democrats I guess?

seunny4lif:
You said Russia is the problem.
Now tell that to those countries, your almighty Democracy country have destroyed.
Your democracy countries dropped more bombs in Vietnam than in WW.

What was the reason for the bombing?
I am sure that in your brain Stalin and Lenin were also saints and better than the west

Also, are we talking about the transgressions of the west it is okay to call the BS of the west and also calling out the BS of Putin you must not take sides because currently in 2022 one side is threatening peace.
If you knew a thing or two you would know that in many democracies alliances are important.
I am sure that Russia had no part to play in Syria and Afghanistan since they are the saints here.

You have a problem fix it nobody is exonerating the sins of the west but the east is no better neither is it a saint that you must take sides with.

AmazonTopaz:

Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose. The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.


Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathising with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.

My goodness did you see NATO force former states of the USSR to join or they went on their own will, majority of Ukrainians want NATO and the fact that Putin is still nostalgic about the USSR is enough proof of that have you asked yourself why former states of the USSR are interested in joining the west why not ask yourself that since you think Russia is so good that they are running away from it or they should swallow their will because of one man called Putin.
Give me a break

Reviving the USSR is impossible. The baltic states are now part of NATO. If Putin tries to take back the Baltic states which are now part of NATO, this might lead to a world war. Putin is not stupid. Engage the West in a nuclear war, for what exactly?

Putin does not gamble.

olugabbie:


NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.

Unfortunately, few people reason like you do. Whenever I read some people saying Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union, it evoke laughter and I sometimes wonder why people finds it difficult to reason independently rather than repeating sheer propaganda. The existence of NATO under the overbearing influence of the US is the greatest threat to world peace today, but some people don't even see it. NATO is supposed to be a defence path, but for the last few decades, it has attacked more nationas than it has ever defended.

Putin has recognized them already. Russian tanks, APC, Ballistic & cruise missiles, and other advanced military hardwares can now enter those territories since those new countries are allied to Russia now. this is the same thing russia did with those two states that wrre formally in Georgia.

I pity Ukraine Sha they will lose everything within the blinking of an eye. Foolish myopic people

Appleyard:
Putin dreams about nothing! You're just regurgating typical mainstream media crappy narrative. The Soviet Union is gone and all in Russia admits that, but it's only in the delusional heads of crazy mainstream western media covens is Putin dreaming of bringing back the Soviet Union

Yes it was the media that recognise luhansk and Donetsk as independent states on behalf of Putin. Also it was the media that told Putin to talk about the soviet union and how he faults the independence of soviet states today it was all propaganda what I listened and saw with my very eyes. Wanting to think freely does not give one the right to always be ignorant and stupid everything is not always about propaganda

Putin is a dictator, really? How convenient for you to say....Then what should we call guys like Trudeau and Let's Go Brandon that forces vaccine mandate on people who don't want it? Democrats I guess?

Has Justin Trudeau killed and poisoned his political rivals and dissenters who go against him, has Trudeau invaded another nation to declare war, has he annexed any territory or taken over elections?it seems you are confused and you do not know what you are talking about, If you were intelligent you would know that before invoking the emergencies act Trudeau pleaded with the Truckers who are not even truckers to leave and that they were affecting the supplying chain, threatening acts of violence and affecting the economy.If you were intelligent you would know that in many democracies the constitution provides for emergency powers which he used to restore order where necessary how can you call him a dictator for following what is provided in his country's constitution?

Get sense

AmazonTopaz:

Please keep quiet since you don't know how diplomacy and foreign politics work first of all who and start a class on world politics.

You talk like as if Trump was any better when in fact he was a puppet being friends with dictators and abandoning allies.

I am not marking your word because it is irrelevant to the discussion

Yeah, diplomacy that had the US running out of afghanistan with tails between their legs and abandoning all their allies and even weaponry to the mercy of the taliban, Diplomacy that has just lost Ukraine two territories, diplomacy that has seen Iran and North korea building up weapons of mass destruction unchecked, yeah tell me about diplomacy

olugabbie:


Reviving the USSR is impossible. The baltic states are now part of NATO. If Putin tries to take back the Baltic states which are part now part of NATO, might lead to a world war. Putin is not stupid. Engage the West in a nuclear war, for what exactly?

Putin does not gamble.

It seems Putin is stupid judging by what he has said, you can go back and watch the video it is on Youtube I get a sense that you idolise the man though.

Why are you hyping Putin?

AmazonTopaz:

It is only your last hope don't mistake free thought for ignorance.

Even the word propaganda was first used by the Soviets you can head to China but don't take the rest of the world with you.

I am already in China saluting the portrait of chairman Mao Zedong

Appleyard:
Putin dreams about nothing! You're just regurgating typical mainstream media crappy narrative. The Soviet Union is gone and all in Russia admits that, but it's only in the delusional heads of crazy mainstream western media covens is Putin dreaming of bringing back the Soviet Union.

Putin is a dictator, really? How convenient for you to say....Then what should we call guys like Trudeau and Let's Go Brandon that forces vaccine mandate on people who don't want it? Democrats I guess?

I might not agree with you but I like people with independent assertion and analogical deduction.

AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

To the bolder. You sound just like those propagandists on CNN. do you have any evidence to back the trash you're spitting right now?
Putin said [url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ox99AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=He+who+does+not+regret+the+break-up+of+the+Soviet+Union+has+no+heart;+he+who+wants+to+revive+it+in+its+previous+form+has+no+head&source=bl&ots=6M_mZewx8a&sig=ACfU3U2fa33xb33ENHHb-ecdn0asTkMWXA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir7pmigIX2AhWHdt8KHfcKAKIQ6AF6BAgxEAM#v=onepage&q=He%20who%20does%20not%20regret%20the%20break-up%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union%20has%20no%20heart%3B%20he%20who%20wants%20to%20revive%20it%20in%20its%20previous%20form%20has%20no%20head&f=false] “He who does not regret the break-up of the Soviet Union has no heart; he who wants to revive it in its previous form has no head.”
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Now shut the fűck up and sit your ass down, pendejo

edmaraja:

Yeah, diplomacy that had the US running out of afghanistan with tails between their legs and abandoning all their allies and even weaponry to the mercy of the taliban

Are you sure you are okay, who made plans for the Afghanistan withdrawal was it not your beloved Trump?who freed Taliban terrorist and met with their leaders and prepared an escape plan behind the Afghani government was it not your beloved Trump who started the withdrawal of troops and majority of Americans supported it?

diplomacy that has just lost Ukraine two territories, diplomacy that has seen Iran and North korea building up weapons of mass destruction unchecked, yeah tell me about diplomacy

Stop embarrassing yourself please you talked about Afghanistan and I wonder how that even concerned diplomacy, Americans are tired of war and the interventionist mentality hence why the diplomatic approach you are just mixing things up and your confusion is glaring also I personally believe that they should own nuclear weapons if they want to but using it to threaten the existence of sovereign nations is a no.
If you know about the JCPOA(Iran nuclear deal) it was foolish for Trump to have pulled out instead of blaming Biden blame Trump.

MangekyoAlt:


To the bolder. You sound just like those propagandists on CNN. do you have any evidence to back the trash you're spitting right now?
Putin said [url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ox99AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=He+who+does+not+regret+the+break-up+of+the+Soviet+Union+has+no+heart;+he+who+wants+to+revive+it+in+its+previous+form+has+no+head&source=bl&ots=6M_mZewx8a&sig=ACfU3U2fa33xb33ENHHb-ecdn0asTkMWXA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir7pmigIX2AhWHdt8KHfcKAKIQ6AF6BAgxEAM#v=onepage&q=He%20who%20does%20not%20regret%20the%20break-up%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union%20has%20no%20heart%3B%20he%20who%20wants%20to%20revive%20it%20in%20its%20previous%20form%20has%20no%20head&f=false] “He who does not regret the break-up of the Soviet Union has no heart; he who wants to revive it in its previous form has no head.”
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Now shut the fűck up and sit your ass down, pendejo

You nailed it, she's obviously one of those liberals being brainwashed by CNN

useni1:
I am already in China saluting the portrait of chairman Mao Zedong

Good you belong there

AmazonTopaz:


I am sure you would have preferred communism and socialism then , why not move to those countries instead since they are better than democracy?

What's wrong with Communism and Socialism as modes of production?

You think Communism/Socialism has connection with dictatorship? As if Capitalism is not evil. I know you don't have enough info that's why you reason this way.

You haven't read that democratic Communist regimes have existed in the past but they were truncated by the instrumentality of the America's CIA because uncle SAM saw them as threat to it own Capitalist sphere of influence.

Have you read about Salvadore Allende the democratically elected Communist president of Chile? That was toppled by the CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator known as Augusto Rusto Pinochet? CIA helped Pinochet to surpress dissent and he killed hundreds of thousands in that country.

What of Jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala. He was a true democrat but was toppled by CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator. That CIA coup in Guatemala led to a chain of events that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in that country.

Those were capitalist regimes that U.S. installed so please what is wrong with Communism? As if capitalism has not had its own share of dictatorship and evil.

Fidel Castro started well in Cuba he was a free and nice gentleman but when U.S. started invading Cuba and using Cubans to plot assasinations against his life he had to change his ways and became dictatorial so as to instill fear into the people even at that the U.S. did not stop CIA tried his life over 600 times and failed.

During the cold war years those communist countries were on their own jejely while U.S. was using CIA to forment trouble in them. Unseating the weak ones who choosed to be democratic.

MangekyoAlt:


To the bolder. You sound just like those propagandists on CNN. do you have any evidence to back the trash you're spitting right now?
Putin said [url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ox99AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=He+who+does+not+regret+the+break-up+of+the+Soviet+Union+has+no+heart;+he+who+wants+to+revive+it+in+its+previous+form+has+no+head&source=bl&ots=6M_mZewx8a&sig=ACfU3U2fa33xb33ENHHb-ecdn0asTkMWXA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir7pmigIX2AhWHdt8KHfcKAKIQ6AF6BAgxEAM#v=onepage&q=He%20who%20does%20not%20regret%20the%20break-up%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union%20has%20no%20heart%3B%20he%20who%20wants%20to%20revive%20it%20in%20its%20previous%20form%20has%20no%20head&f=false] “He who does not regret the break-up of the Soviet Union has no heart; he who wants to revive it in its previous form has no head.”
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Now shut the fűck up and sit your ass down, pendejo

The next time you insult me I will report you.
It seems you have a problem with the media and CNN better fix it up you are the propagandist here trying to defend a dictator.

If you are smart give me cogent reasons why Putin thinks he is right to want to take over the sovereignty of Ukraine and former USSR states in 2022


You that is the propagandist in chief think that you are alright because everything is always a conspiracy to your type.

You are the one talking trash.

edmaraja:

You nailed it, she's obviously one of those liberals being brainwashed by CNN

Don't mind them. Whatever a deranged "diplomat" from the west ditches out on CNN, BBC, thesun for them is automatically true even when they don't back their claims with hard evidence.
If putin was after Soviet unification, he would've unified with Belarus and other friendly ex Soviet states first before he will focus on to Ukraine and other stubborn ex Soviet states. They think if he's after the unification, then Ukraine would be the very first country he would try to absorb.

AmazonTopaz:

It seems Putin is stupid judging by what he has said, you can go back and watch the video it is on Youtube I get a sense that you idolise the man though.

Why are you hyping Putin?

He is not stupid. He made demands and he will get them.

I just don't want a unipolar world. Unipolarism brings corruption. A world that has two, three or four masters rather than one is what we need.

The US has gone against the UN to invade several countries. She has used Military means to democratise several countries especially in the middle east. In her bid to democratise the Islamic states, middle east has been ruined. If not for Russia, Syria would have been in the same state with Libya.

The US has killed some many people & destroy countries all in the name of democracy. Unipolarism can not work in our modern world. The earlier you know this, the better.

Appleyard:
Putin dreams about nothing! You're just regurgating typical mainstream media crappy narrative. The Soviet Union is gone and all in Russia admits that, but it's only in the delusional heads of crazy mainstream western media covens is Putin dreaming of bringing back the Soviet Union.

Putin is a dictator, really? How convenient for you to say....Then what should we call guys like Trudeau and Let's Go Brandon that forces vaccine mandate on people who don't want it? Democrats I guess?

He did mention legacy of the Soviet Union being squandered, and all these posturing you people do here, you will still pick USA and Canada before considering living in Russia