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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by jaxxy(m): 12:12am On Feb 22, 2022
useni1:
all propaganda. Communism is the last hope for humanity. May communism never be denied us

Go to China and enjoy. U won’t have the right or luxury to even type this shit over there. grin

U would be a Chinese zombie. grin

And then a future slave of the colony.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by smallsmall: 12:13am On Feb 22, 2022
alezzy13:
I wonder why people here love dictators so much.


And we hate BULLIES as much! grin grin

Why do people like you, admire Bullies?
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Bluffly: 12:15am On Feb 22, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
It was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back.
Which Soviet union. Russia was never part if Soviet Union for a long time before they decided to join. So why will they now be the championing now
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:16am On Feb 22, 2022
smallsmall:


Russia has been under US sanction since 2007 and this is merely a ramp up.
The more sanction you impose on a country, unlawfully, the less impact they produce and the less leverage you will have.
It is the Europeans l pity, especially Germany.
Their Energy Prices is already hitting the Roof, until they have a Citizen riot on their hand, will they learn not to follow-follow USA like Muumu.
The sanctions are limited hence why you see it that way the sanctions have always affected the Russian economy till date. If the west targets Russian oligarchs financing this and hits them hard it will be disastrous for Russia.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by smallsmall: 12:16am On Feb 22, 2022
jaxxy:


Go to China and enjoy. U won’t have the right or luxury to even type this shit over there. grin



You mean the same China that owns most of Nigeria, due to the Debt we owe them?
Would Nigeria ever have working rail lines if not for the same China? grin grin

You guys need to think properly, before you talk.
The average Chinese lives a better quality lifestyle, lives in comfort and safety, far above the average Nigerian like you, so WTF are you saying?
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Nobody: 12:16am On Feb 22, 2022
useni1:
Coward America is playing with fire and fire will burn America
Just because you or your people were denied American Visa, you display such hatred.
Just because you see your hope of entering America as being dashed. Naaa waaaaooo
Is America your country?
Why not pray for Naija 2be world power.
Or God no dey hear that kind prayer?

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:17am On Feb 22, 2022
Bluffly:

Which Soviet union. Russia was never part if Soviet Union for a long time before they decided to join. So why will they now be the championing now

Go and listen to Putin's statements.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:20am On Feb 22, 2022
oluwaahmed:


Why are you so invested in the west? People that have enslaved your ancestors, race and country for years. The west have and continue to plunder and underdevelope Africa. They have killed many good African leaders that could have made Africa better than it is today. Why you supporting them. Oya you go to America now, if they will not bounce your ass at their embassy. You believe so much in democracy yet your are crying that regions decided thru a referendum to be independent, is that not hypocritical of you? Pls Russia should hurry up with eastern Europe so that they can come help African revolutionaries
You are not making any sense and you should not be taken seriously imagine embracing Russia and China because you despise the west and you think you will be better under them lol you don't know what you are talking about it is okay to despise the west and Russia I would not waste my time with you.

And also Africa is the cause of its problem stop blaming the west for everything.Ethiopia that was not colonised take a look at that country and its handling of the war in Tigray.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by jaxxy(m): 12:22am On Feb 22, 2022
smallsmall:




You mean the same China that owns most of Nigeria, due to the Debt we owe them?
Would Nigeria ever have working rail lines if not for the same China? grin grin

You guys need to think properly, before you talk.
The average Chinese lives a better quality lifestyle, lives in comfort and safety, far above the average Nigerian like you, so WTF are you saying?

Don’t be fooled there’s poverty in many parts of China.

Nigerian borrowed, the US also has debts it’s about ability to repay not the amount of debts.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by JustinDuke(m): 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
Sadly, it is very evident that the average Nigerian are angry people.
We barely hold a civil conversation without throwing bouts of insults at one another.
It is not mandatory that your opinion takes the crown. Don't take it personal.
Just make your arguments and counterarguments with clarity. It's solid than noise to the ears as seen above.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by smallsmall: 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
AmazonTopaz:

The sanctions are limited hence why you see it that way the sanctions have always affected the Russian economy till date. If the west targets Russian oligarchs financing this and hits them hard it will be disastrous for Russia.

The thing with Sanctions is that it is a two-edge Sword.
Look at Germany for example:
The Country is very, very short on Gas supply, so much that energy prices have gone up more than x4.
The Nord stream 2 Gas Pipeline is completed and ready to deliver Gas, Cheap Gas to Germany but America, using Sanctions on Russia, has refused to allow Germany get the benefit of it.
So, it is not only Russia that is being punished, Germany is also being punished and its Citizens are already getting agitated.
Economic Sanctions affect the person punished and like a Buyer and Seller, the Buyer is also punishing itself for not buying what it needs.

The luck and benefit America enjoys is just that World Trade is in Dollars, a currency it just prints in its own Reserve, while others work and exchange their Resources for that same PAPER Dollars.

Russia is considering its options, it is expanding Trade with other countries that are fed up with American bullying, China and Brazil are major examples.
Russia will feel the Heat but l can assure you it will overcome it over time and as it does, America becomes Weaker because it is loosing leverage very fast.
There was a Time America use to threaten China with Sanctions but as of today, it has lost that leverage hence it is considering a disastrous military Option.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by elampiro(m): 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
olugabbie:
In few hours from now, Russia will likely send lightly armed Russian troops into the Donbas. Something similar to the little green men, that were sent to Crimea.

One thing people don't know about Puttin is how smart he is. He does not gamble. He knew very well that he will get what he want. He is a master planner. Every event that is unfolding now has been carefully and well planned.

Now it is clear that Ukraine will never join NATO.

Incompetent Biden is the reason all these are possible. He is weak and Putin read it well.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
smallsmall:


The thing with Sanctions is that it is a two-edge Sword.
Look at Germany for example:
The Country is very, very short on Gas supply, so much that energy prices have gone up more than x4.
The Nord stream 2 Gas Pipeline is completed and ready to deliver Gas, Cheap Gas to Germany but America, using Sanctions on Russia, has refused to allow Germany get the benefit of it.
So, it is not only Russia that is being punished, Germany is also being punished and its Citizens are already getting agitated.
Economic Sanctions affect the person punished and like a Buyer and Seller, the Buyer is also punishing itself for not buying what it needs.

The luck and benefit America enjoys is just that World Trade is in Dollars, a currency it just prints in its own Reserve, while others work and exchange their Resources for that same PAPER Dollars.

Russia is considering its options, it is expanding Trade with other countries that are fed up with American bullying, China and Brazil are major examples.
Russia will feel the Heat but l can assure you it will overcome it over time and as it does, America becomes Weaker because it is loosing leverage very fast.
There was a Time America use to threaten China with Sanctions but as of today, it has lost that leverage hence it is considering a disastrous military Option.
Let's see if the sanctions will hit Russia hard if the west does not go after assets they are wasting their time and Russia is not like China in terms of its economy
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by WoundedLamb: 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
Hanibbal:


As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin grin

This is still an invasion. Any country that sends soldiers on peacekeeping mission to Biafra is invading Nigeria. Putin is invading Ukraine and that's nothing to celebrate. Former USSR member countries are now independent countries. Putin will be violating their sovereignty if he continues like this. People kept on saying it was about NATO placing missiles in Ukraine but we've always known it's more about Putin wanting to reassemble the former NATO member countries. Now he's made his intentions clear, he didn't even mention NATO in his speech. The same people that supported him on the grounds of him keeping NATO off the Russian borders are still supporting him for invading Ukraine today even though the motive isn't what they thought it was.

I know there's this desire in most people to see a huge country or power house fall. But we shouldn't let that blind us cause this is not all about the US. What Putin is doing is wrong. I don't even know the basis of supporting this authoritarianism as Nigerians knowing fully well that we won't take such in our own country. What has Russia even done for the modern day humanity? Power without sacrifices is a facade.

My opinion.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by olugabbie(m): 12:26am On Feb 22, 2022
smallsmall:


Ukraine actually is doing the provocation!
It knows it cannot win a War with Russia but it is banking on NATO, though it is not a member.
Ukraine wants to use the support of NATO, Europe and USA, to get more weapons from them, to forcefully take-back the Donbass region and hopefully be in line to join NATO soon.

But it will end in tears for Ukraine because American support is not without drawback and pain.
America just needs a staging point for its Missiles to point at Russia, a close one for that matter but Ukraine wants to turn itself to a War Zone because Russia will also be ready to eraze Ukraine, and even sieze, before America can make it a Military Base.
For Russia, Ukrain is becoming an existential threat and with that, nothing is off the table, even a Nuclear War

I disagree with your 1st point. The so called lethal weapon the West has been delivering to Ukraine is not going to change the balance of power between Russia and Ukraine. Zelenszky knows this. To deter Russia. Ukraine needs advance fighter jets, helicopter and defense systems. But they can afford them.

Ukraine was banking on the US, NATO & EU to use whatever necessary methods to deter Russia & may be pressure them to admit Ukraine in NATO.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:27am On Feb 22, 2022
WoundedLamb:


This is still an invasion. Any country that sends soldiers on peacekeeping mission to Biafra is invading Nigeria. Putin is invading Ukraine and that's nothing to celebrate. Former USSR member countries are now independent countries. Putin will be violating their sovereignty if he continues like this. People kept on saying it was about NATO placing missiles in Ukraine but we've always known it's more about Putin wanting to reassemble the former NATO member countries. Now he's made his intentions clear, he didn't even mention NATO in his speech. The same people that supported him on the grounds of him keeping NATO off the Russian borders are still supporting him for invading today Ukraine today even though the motive isn't what they thought it was.

I know there's this desire in most people to see a huge country or power house fall. But we shouldn't let that blind us cause this is not all about the US. What Putin is doing is wrong. I don't even know the basis of supporting this authoritarianism as Nigerians knowing fully well that we won't take such in our own country. What has Russia even done for the modern day humanity? Power without sacrifices is a facade.

My opinion.

Exactly my thoughts too and well said, nobody says the west is a saint but I will pick the so called western imperialism over what Russia and China can offer.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by IJEYdiamond(f): 12:29am On Feb 22, 2022
All i know it can never end well...

Dictators never end and die well... Putin knows history.... i may not know much... Putin greed and his chess game tactics will definitely lead him to his ruin... Russia is big nah and even with the break up of other countries that they were once USSR.. They still have enough land...

What is his problem.... Wickness!!

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by along3dem(m): 12:33am On Feb 22, 2022
I came across this some days ago

Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by alamscolo(m): 12:33am On Feb 22, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
It was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back.


You understand his plan, in order to regain the world power, the Soviet Union need to be back, if he can deal with Ukraine, one of the biggest countries then Cuba and the likes Na wakapass

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:36am On Feb 22, 2022
alamscolo:



You understand his plan, in order to regain the world power, the Soviet Union need to be back, if he can deal with Ukraine, one of the biggest countries then Cuba and the likes Na wakapass
Gbam cool

You sabi

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by jeffoe(m): 12:37am On Feb 22, 2022
What Putin wanted to achieve was creating a federal system within ukraine with great autonomy for the Eastern Ukraine Region which allow a balanced central government that has both pro West and pro Russian in it. Which was part of the Minsk agreement but unfortunately the Ukrainian believed they signed the agreement as the weaker side.

The USA funded the coup that removed the former Ukrainian government sympathetic to Russia.

The solution i believe is the FINLADIZATION of Ukraine. It has worked for Finland it would work for ukraine.

Russia would allow the independence of ukraine it can join the eu but not NATO and Ukraine would never oppose Russian foreign interest.

The Russian government has a balanced budget huge foreign reserves in various currency. A developed and diversified economy with huge source of raw materials. The European are much more dependent on Russia raw materials so much sanction would be devastating to both side.

Russian and Ukrainian are same slavic people. It is not a good idea to have a unipolar world. The West should show Putin some respect.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Appleyard(m): 12:39am On Feb 22, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Yes it was the media that recognise luhansk and Donetsk as independent states on behalf of Putin. Also it was the media that told Putin to talk about the soviet union and how he faults the independence of soviet states today it was all propaganda what I listened and saw with my very eyes. Wanting to think freely does not give one the right to always be ignorant and stupid everything is not always about propaganda
You allow emotional overdrive to cloud your sense of logical reasoning. That Putin regretted the collapse of the Soviet Union means he wants the USSR rebuilt? Is Putin the only one to have regretted the collapse of the USSR? FYI, a poll conducted by Levada in 2017 shows 58 percent of ordinary Russians regretted the collapse of the USSR, does it mean they want it to be rebuilt? They have their reasons for showing regret. Gaddamnit! Even in troublesome Ukraine, information from Statista Research conducted in 2020 reveals 34% of Ukrainians regretting the collapse of the USSR. Does it mean they are all out to rebuilt it? If you don't understand certain issues, do some research, don't delve into them blindly. The 'Unified economic system enjoyed by citizens of the then USSR and the chaotic manner in which the Union collapsed and its impact is one of the core reasons these people regretted the collapse. Here are some independent links, read and understand.

<https://www.statista.com/statistics/1128076/ukraine-opinion-on-dissolution-of-the-ussr-by-age/>

<https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russian-president-vladimir-putin-says-he-wishes-the-soviet-union-had-not-collapsed-many-russians-agr-1819331>

They are neither anti-west or pro-west or anti-Russia or pro-Russia. Free yourself from the shackles of mainstream media propaganda.




Has Justin Trudeau killed and poisoned his political rivals and dissenters who go against him, has Trudeau invaded another nation to declare war, has he annexed any territory or taken over elections?it seems you are confused and you do not know what you are talking about, If you were intelligent you would know that before invoking the emergencies act Trudeau pleaded with the Truckers who are not even truckers to leave and that they were affecting the supplying chain, threatening acts of violence and affecting the economy.If you were intelligent you would know that in many democracies the constitution provides for emergency powers which he used to restore order where necessary how can you call him a dictator for following what is provided in his country's constitution?

Get sense

No, Justin Trudeau hasn't killed any opponent that I know of, and so is Putin, except you have evidence that he actually 'poisoned' Nalvany with Novickok, a chemical substance that has 100% fatality, and he managed to survived because Jesus is his brother...so says the west. cool I just they look you dey laugh. cool. They really have gotten deep to you. cool

But you didn't see where same Trudeau recently deployed armed security agents and forcefully removed from the road truckers protesting forced vaccine mandate on them, but you and your lovely mainstream media did not call him highhanded and dictator or anti-democratic. But when similar protest occurred in Hong Kong with protesters burning and destroying properties, to which the police responded, the satanic mainstream western media covens labelled the response as 'repressive of democratic rights' while hailing the protesters as democratic human rights protesters. Typical western double standards. cool

Of course, Trudeau did not annex any territory. But when its partners Israel annexed the Golan Heights and forcefully continue to annex parts of the West Bank under Netanyahu, your likes and western media covens turn a blind eye and even hails it in many aspects. But when Russia does it even in its legitimate manner, it's pure dictatorship. When the Falkislands residents in 2013 voted in a referendum to remain as a UK administered territory as against being with Argentina, with just one single question on the ballot paper asking only in favor of the UK, the referendum wasn't questioned, but hailed by BBC and its cohort as democratic, But when Russia conducted similar style with Crimea, even with more than one question, your likes calls it annexation. Double standards as usual. cool

Did your loving media and western governments called the Honk Kong police right to use force in the events of emergencies 'constitutional' or they overblown and labeled it as suppression of freedom, especially with Canada playing the cheerleader's role during the protest? undecided

Sorry to disappoint you; You have more dictators in the west than you can ever imagine.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by perdollar(m): 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
Putin reminds me of Hitler. He is defiant and thinks he WL nuke d world at worst! He forgot that the resolve of United Allies even in d face of defeat can b overwhelming. I hope he knows there r ppl within his country praying for his deposal n who r ready to bear arm and sabotage him. Putin WL end up like Hitler if he continues to do strong man

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by olugabbie(m): 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
jaxxy:


Don’t be fooled there’s poverty in many parts of China.

Nigerian borrowed, the US also has debts it’s about ability to repay not the amount of debts.

China and Russia are as developed as the West. Most people don't even know that there are no homeless people in Russia..Russia is one of the most self reliance country in the world. They produce everything they need and export not only oil but also commercial planes as well as military planes, agricultural equipments, covid-19 vaccine (Spunik) e.t.c to name a few.

They have the highest number of underground rail network in europe. Moscow, ST Petersburg, Kazan & Sochi-(where they host olympic) are among the most beautiful cities in the world.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by madridsta007(m): 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
Firstcitizen:
It was a game of chess. The Americans never saw this coming

99% sure that they did.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by madridsta007(m): 12:48am On Feb 22, 2022
Mooh247:
That is what happens when a former KGB , MI6 or CIA agent becomes a President .. unlike US voting the likes of Joe Biden and Buffon Trump

Russia was at its weakest diplomatically when Trump was President.
Putin dared not threaten Ukraine, let alone invade Ukraine when Trump was President.
You realise this, right?

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by olugabbie(m): 12:49am On Feb 22, 2022
perdollar:
Putin reminds me of Hitler. He is defiant and thinks he WL nuke d world at worst! He forgot that the resolve of United Allies even in d face of defeat can b overwhelming. I hope he knows there r ppl within his country praying for his deposal n who r ready to bear arm and sabotage him. Putin WL end up like Hitler if he continues to do strong man

Putin and Hitler are not the same and they will never be. Hitler wanted to rule the world. Putin is not interested in rule the world.

The US is interested in ruling the world. You can compare the US with Hitler.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Appleyard(m): 12:51am On Feb 22, 2022
pansophist:


Only western media parade this nonsense that Putin wants the ussr back. Its a lie. All was good before February 2014 when the democratically elected president was overthrown by the CIA backed coup, installing a puppet leader that is answerable to Washington.

No matter how much you spin and spread the return of soviet Union lie, you can't point to any proof of Russian aggression before Feb 2014. Listen to broad news network not just western media.
Unfortunately, she has been baptized by western media propaganda into believing Putin is out to create the USSR. Very funny.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by useni1: 12:51am On Feb 22, 2022
MALIGNANTGuest:

Just because you or your people were denied American Visa, you display such hatred.
Just because you see your hope of entering America as being dashed. Naaa waaaaooo
Is America your country?
Why not pray for Naija 2be world power.
Or God no dey hear that kind prayer?
visa to go and live in a shiithole? America is a shiithole only fit for donkeys and baboon. Nobody should be proud of visa. Visa is stupidity

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Mooh247: 12:51am On Feb 22, 2022
madridsta007:


Russia was at its weakest diplomatically when Trump was President.
Putin dared not threaten Ukraine, let alone invade Ukraine when Trump was President.
You realise this, right?


Trump practically worships Putin for his influence which made him win Hillary

Trump was Putin's stooge and puppet and he never confronted Russia

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Appleyard(m): 12:53am On Feb 22, 2022
olugabbie:


China and Russia are as developed as the West. Most people don't even know that there are no homeless people in Russia..Russia is one of the most self reliance country in the world. They produce everything they need and export not only oil but also commercial planes as well as military planes, agricultural equipments, covid-19 vaccine (Spunik) e.t.c to name a few.

They have the highest number of underground rail network in europe. Moscow, ST Petersburg, Kazan & Sochi-(where they host olympic) are among the most beautiful cities in the world.
You are wasting your time educating people who are not willing to let go their delusional pride.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by useni1: 12:54am On Feb 22, 2022
jaxxy:


Go to China and enjoy. U won’t have the right or luxury to even type this shit over there. grin

U would be a Chinese zombie. grin

And then a future slave of the colony.
Yes. that's how I want my life to be. My aim is to ban all bullshiit western propaganda rubbish. From facebook, to twitter, instagram etc. China is even too friendly. I will ban Nigerians from traveling to europe and america. You call brainwashing luxury? Ogun kee you there!

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