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Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by drnoel: 10:15pm On Mar 27, 2013 |
Kai don't say that loud, they won't like to hear that ooo |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ijawcitizen(m): 11:10pm On Mar 27, 2013 |
drnoel: Kai don't say that loud, they won't like to hear that ooo What do you think I'm trying to do? I'm shouting it out so loud that I feel its not loud enough for their dumb ears to pick up the sound! Where are my amplifiers?.......... |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Vansnickers: 11:18pm On Mar 27, 2013 |
Why can't you People leave us alone?! Is it by force??!! |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Vansnickers: 11:22pm On Mar 27, 2013 |
petaling: SE stop all these Rivers this Rivers that! Be on your own, you have everything you need. You have oil in ABIA and Imo. You have large Gas reserve in Anambra and Enugu. You have large coal reserve in Enugu and part of Abia. You have PRODA in Enugu, the reserch institute that manufactured arms and ammunition and rocket during biafran war. Why cant you re-enact the technological feat attained in the 60"s. You have intellectual capacity, Your own daughter is MD world Bank, VP world bank. You have up 3000 medical doctors in Atlanta alone, busy now i will come back Thank you!! Why can't they just let us be. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Abagworo(m): 12:10am On Mar 28, 2013 |
Van snickers: A mad man Musiwa will open a rubbish thread and you guys will be all out to start fighting for nothing. Rivers State is not Southeast and Southeasterners ain't claiming it one bit. Its a multi-ethnic State like Delta and is in South-south. So why the fight? |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by AndreUweh(m): 12:26am On Mar 28, 2013 |
Van snickers: Why can't you People leave us alone?! Is it by force??!!You people, who are they?. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by CyberG: 1:44am On Mar 28, 2013 |
You mean iboz are still dreaming of forcefully co-opting other people to become part of ibo BY FORCE?? Na wah o! They said NO, is it by force? Okay, you can go and carry the land on your head and bring it to your ibo land. Kapish 1 Like |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by dayokanu(m): 3:18am On Mar 28, 2013 |
Dont they already own 99% of Rivers States, 97% of Lagos and 100% of Abuja 1 Like |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Vansnickers: 10:01pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
Andre Uweh: You know yourselves. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by pazienza(m): 11:41pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
Van snickers: He meant to ask you what the name of your ethnic group is. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Abagworo(m): 11:47pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
Abagworo: |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Tigerhead: 5:17am On Apr 07, 2013 |
At the end of the day this is really what they want. I cannot for the life of me understand the underlying envy and covetousness that drives these people when they even hear the name Rivers state. CyberG: You mean iboz are still dreaming of forcefully co-opting other people to become part of ibo BY FORCE?? Na wah o! They said NO, is it by force? Okay, you can go and carry the land on your head and bring it to your ibo land. Kapish |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 7:05am On Jul 09, 2013 |
The Igbos of Rivers State are minority so the state can not be part of the East. However, The Igbos of the state can either merge with their other Igbo states or have a state of their own and be part of the South East.. In this case, Obio Akpor, Omuma, Etche , Ikwere, EMOHUA, Ahoada East , Oyigbo and Ogba Egbema CAN EITHER OPT OUT if they want. The rest would remain Rivers state and the True Rivers state.. Including, Okrika, Ogu,Tai, Khana, Gokhana, Eleme, Akuku, ASARI,BONNY, OPOBO Nkoro, Andoni, Degema, Abua odual , Ahoada West and Port Harcourt. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by OdenigboAroli(m): 12:29pm On Jul 09, 2013 |
Please the Ikwerre should be left alone; Sometimes you need to leave some issue alone to sort themselves. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Abagworo(m): 12:39pm On Jul 09, 2013 |
killayut: The Igbos of Rivers State are minority so the state can not be part of the East. However, The Igbos of the state can either merge with their other Igbo states or have a state of their own and be part of the South East.. In this case, Obio Akpor, Omuma, Etche , Ikwere, EMOHUA, Ahoada East , Oyigbo and Ogba Egbema CAN EITHER OPT OUT if they want. The rest would remain Rivers state and the True Rivers state.. Including, Okrika, Ogu,Tai, Khana, Gokhana, Eleme, Akuku, ASARI,BONNY, OPOBO Nkoro, Andoni, Degema, Abua odual , Ahoada West and Port Harcourt. @bolded. You should have just written Borokiri/Old town and Abuloma if your reason is based on ethnicity. But why are you so keen on dividing Rivers State? Are you aware of the possible crisis that could erupt? Like I've always said Rivers State should be left intact and the component ethnic groups remain numerous and related to Ijaw, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio and Edoid. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 6:36am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Abagworo: This is Port Harcourt satelite map... Would you call Nekede New Owerri or call Oba New Onitsha or even Call obosi new Onitsha ? One day you guys will call ABA PORT HARCOURT ? ALL THE SETTLEMENTS in OBIO AKPOR were existing before Europeans came to Nigeria and Port Harcourt was created in 1912. The road that linked Port harcourt to the Ikwere towns in present Obio Akpor was the OWERRI ROAD WHICH WAS CHANGED TO IKWERE ROAD.. . Then Diobu was created as a satelite town.. All the rumu in Obio Akpor were Igbo families farm land turned towns and settled by different people.. There are no natives in them. Therefore such neighborhood like Rumubiakana was umubiakani , Rumumasi was umumasi and so on. There were no natives there cos the places were farm land for Igbo migrants just as Igbos would have farmland in Kaduna and KANO. iF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT A PLACE do not argue about it. That was why all the old secondary schools were in PORT HARCOURT.. ENITONNA, BAPTIST , STELLA MARIS and so on.. ABULOMA was just like a fishing port and the only thing there was the federal govt girls col which was in the forest and not at a town.The Old GRA was European quarters and the UTC road today was the only link road linking Port Harcourt and Diobu.. Do not be arguing about other peoples places.. DEVELOPMENT IS GOING EVERY WHERE AND TODAY even ELEME, CHOBA, OKRIKA, IGWURUTA are bearing the name PORT Harcourt. soon ELELE AND Isiokpo will also bear Port Harcourt.. Some of you Igbos make people hate you by how you blindly and stupidly argue about things.. IDIOT... DID YOU KNOW WHEN KALABARI AND OKRIKA fought over ISAKA in Port Harcourt ?What else was PORT Harcourt..Even when I was in Comprehensive Borikiri we still refered to ENEKA and ELELENWA as Villages and not even close to Port Harcourt.. Back then peeps else where would say Town which is the short form of Port Harcourt town... Instead of saying Port Harcourt town it was shortened to Town..
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Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 6:54am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Abagworo: This is PH SATELITE MAP..
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Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 7:14am On Jul 10, 2013 |
ak47mann: Ijaw people can they live with igbo s? why am asking i just spoke to my cousin in onitsha he was telling me about one technical school in onitsha were government send ijaw boys to learn/train them and on top of that they get over 150.000k a month allowance, that one young ijaw boy blows his allowance in less than two weeks and he will go back to demand for next month pay, when the accounting department refused to give him what he demanded for, there will be problem, the boy started shouting at them causing trouble they ended up giving him his allowance, he said that people are scared of them am now thinking is not a good idea for us to join rivers stateGuy must u comment? |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Terabyteck(m): 10:53am On Dec 16, 2015 |
Can somebody educate us on the history of the Ikweres and the Aniomas.How did they migrate to their present abode? Then we can take the argument from there. We Are Not Igbo.......... A Brief History Of The Ikwerre People. Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says: “A nation is a body of people marked off by common descent, language, culture, or historical tradition: the people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L. Amadi-Nna (1993) avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under recognized chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre can therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres claim a common ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent small tribe.” In the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded themselves as a distinct group and have happily come a long way in their struggle for self-identity as evidenced by the recognition of their language as one of the Nigerian languages.” Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres are a small but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic, social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish them from other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws and the Ibos. Majority of the Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people descended from the ancient Bini Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihru ọ ha (later called Iwhnurọ hna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled in the 13 th century on allegation of plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọ hna his third son settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD, as detailed below. Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written historical records delivered by various informed sources including “Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred (200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọ hna (or Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data: Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka. While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba. Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye, gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre) . Similar historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that: “Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled with his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a community located close to the River Niger, to save the life of his new born baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second wife. … Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by his Benin wife, and Ogba – born to him by his Ndoni wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994): "After the death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and Ogba had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger son, to move northwards where he founded Ohiakwo (Obigwe) and settled with his family. Ekpeye who remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh, Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three sons – Ekpe, Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side of Sombreiro River (present day Ikwerreland and settled there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe migrated to present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele (Alimini), Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala migrated to present day Isiokpo …” Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his half brother called Ochichi from the area of Benin Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele (Omerele, now Elele), Elu (Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and Mini (Alimini, Isiokpo). The crucial point here, which is of great importance in tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff administration), is the mention of the number of children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye, Ogba and Ihruọ ha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọ hna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihru ọ ha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọ ha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọ hna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village). Nigerian colonial history records that the name "Ikwerre" was given by the colonial administration when they wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to build the wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would you permit us to use the waterfront to build the wharf for ships to berth? And they answered: A KWERULEM , meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man was hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official gazette that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the colonial administration to build the wharf. And since it was the official record of government, the name Ikwerre became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all official documentations till date. Similar cases of Anglicization of native names in the Niger Delta region by the colonial administration are Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema, Abonnema for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for Ibani, Pepple for Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc Even so, “… there were dissenting voices, … who believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, … in the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that the interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and migrations including the repudiation of the Igbo tradition is not a phenomenon of the post-civil war period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily the product of the present political realities wherein groups which hitherto were seen to have cultural affinities now find themselves in different states or administrative systems.” -- K.O. Amadi (1993) The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the background.” Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in 1913 the Rt Rev Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger, undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and villages assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union Ibo Bible Nso being introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell discovered from the tests he carried out that although the Ikwerre were often regarded as Ibo… the Union Ibo Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood by the Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular was compulsorily introduced and taught in all schools in Ikwerreland before the Nigerian Civil War to the assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the Ikwere language. This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration in 1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre, Iwhnur ọ hna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000). The full implication is that Ikwere people began to assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of their own and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to revert to the original Ikwere names for families, villages, communities and landmarks. For instance, there was the change from Umuola to Rumuola , Umuoro to Rumuoro, Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi, just to name a few. T O N Y E N Y I A, PhD, MNIM CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION Saturday, 5 February 2011 References: Olise, J.N. (1971) The Peoples of Benin , Oxford University Press Amadi, K.O. (1993) Amadi- Nna,S.O. L.(1993) Otuwari kpo, F.E. (1994) Studies in Ikwerre History and Culture , in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993) Craft Publishing Ltd Studies in Ikwerre History and Culture , in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993) Craft Publishing Ltd The Phonology of Ekpeye: A Descriptive Analysis , unpublished MA Thesis, University of Jos Solomon , N.M.T. (2004) A Short History of Ekpeye People (an excerpt from an upcoming book entitled “THE EKPEYE BOOK – A Comprehensive Guide in the History and Culture of Ekpeye People of the Niger Delta Region in Nigeria” published by Usama Ekpeye USA Inc, Tasie, G.O.M. (2000) Chairman's Opening Remarks at the Maiden Ikwerre Annual Thanksgiving Day, mimeo (Quote) (Report) (Like) (Share) |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 12:29pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
foolish thieves, land grabbers, stupid people. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by drake22: 1:10pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Una no d tire? Just d dig up Igbo threads. Anything Igbo d sell for dis site ooo. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by christopher123(m): 1:12pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
The whole thing tire me |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by MaziChiozo1(m): 1:59am On Jun 29, 2016 |
50 % of rivers are igbo. Ikwerre etche ekpeye ogba and ndoni. Ikwere and ekpeye land is on the same longitude as ukwaland in abia. In precolonial times their shared the same religion as se igbo, the shrines are still there in etcheland today. |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by pkumase: 11:06pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Ikwerre ppl are not Igbo's b4 u come up with ur write up do a proper research. Please correct ur write up. who are Igbo's ? |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by zendy: 11:36pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
pkumase: So are you saying that Ikwerre people are Bini decedants like a previous poster said? |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by oyatz(m): 9:01pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
You sound like a generous person who wish to have powers to dash out States to anyone who desire such. Keep it up sir. Calculia: |
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by oyatz(m): 10:19pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
The offsprings will be Efik if their fathers were efik and mothers Igbo but they will be igbos if their fathers were igbos and mothers efik. Igbo irredentists need to understand and acknowledge that migrations during precolonial times were in both directions and today, there are non-igbos that have Igbo ancestry as well as igbos with Ikwerre, Edo, Igala, Idoma, Efik, Ijaw and Ibibio ancestries. Calculia: |
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