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Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Nobody: 1:02am On Jul 01, 2011
Can somebody educate us on the history of the Ikweres and the Aniomas.How did they migrate to their present abode? Then we can take the argument from there.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 1:49am On Jul 01, 2011
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Ntom:

Can somebody educate us on the history of the Ikweres and the Aniomas.How did they migrate to their present abode? Then we can take the argument from there.

they didn't migrate from anywhere, they are Aborigines of their land unless you want us to discuss human migration right from early man and how all group came to settle where they are now.

they used anioma to identify igbo town and local government areas carved into delta state as delta have other ethnic groups .(A) for Aniocha, (N) for Ndokwa, (I) for Ika-Igbo, (O) for Oshimili, M and A are common denominators found in the four original local governments. The coinage was made by the founding father, Chief Dennis Osadebay in 1951 and has since remained the preferred indigenous name by which the people collectively refer to themselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anioma

as for ikwerre they are one of the over 10 igbo groups in rivers state, they are the most popular, controversial and largest and most of the land in ph city axis belongs to them (amechi is ikwerre) with 4 local governments (ikwerreLGA, obia/akporLGA,PORTHARCOURT LGA and emohua LGA)
but ph is eating up other lands as well down to the obigbo people another igbo group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyigbo

the onelga(ogbo,ndoni and etche) people are of ogbaru clan(peter odilli is from onelga) their brothers can be found in anambra too(atani,ohita,odekpe) and parts of imo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni

the ekpeye people are found all the way from imo to rivers (mainly ahaoda LGA)down to boundry towns in bayelsa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekpeye
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:23am On Jul 01, 2011
N.Delta:

Don't get me wrong brother and no need for the insults, this is just an arguments between enligthed people (i hope so). We the "core Niger Deltans" wants the Ikwerre's etc in the Niger Delta to admit that they are igbos so that we can put them where they belong. Peter Odili is igbo but he will assassinate you if you tell him that, most of these groups deny their igbo ancestry for reasons best known to them.

Of course its idol worship, that is why most of the Ijaw villages are dropping it thereby loosing the original culture gradually.

in rivers state alone out of the 23 local governments 12 are  igbo 6 are  ijaw and 4 are  ogoni with opobo mixed with igbo and ijaw people. with this statistics i wonder who will put who where they belong in nigerdelta.


LGA Name Area (sq.km) Census 2006
population Administrative capital Postal
Code
Port Harcourt 109 541,115 Port Harcourt 500------------------igbo
Obio-Akpor 260 464,789 Rumuokoro 500-------------------igbo
Okrika 222 222,026 Okrika 500----------------------ijaw
Ogu/Bolo 89 74,683 Ogu 500-------------------igbo
Eleme 138 190,884 Eleme 501-------------ogoni
Tai 159 117,797 Sakpenwa 501------------ogoni
Gokana 126 228,828 Kpor 501---------------------ogoni
Khana 560 294,217 Bori 502-------------------ogoni
Oyigbo 248 122,687 Afam 502------------------------------igbo
Opobo/Nkoro 130 151,511 Opobo Town 503-------------------ijaw/igbo
Andoni 233 211,009 Ngo 503----------------------------ijaw
Bonny 642 215,358 Bonny 503---------------------ijaw
Degema 1,011 249,773 Degema 504-------------------ijaw
Asari-Toru 113 220,100 Buguma 504 -------------------ijaw
Akuku-Toru 1,443 156,006 Abonnema 504--------ijaw
Abua/Odua 704 282,988 Abua 510----------------------igbo
Ahoada West 403 249,425 Akinima 510-------------------igbo
Ahoada East 341 166,747 Ahoada 510-------------------igbo
Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni 969 284,010 Omuku 510-----------igbo
Emohua 831 201,901 Emohua 511---------------------igbo
Ikwerre 655 189,726 Isiokpo 511-----------------------igbo
Etche 805 249,454 Okehi 512------------------------igbo
Omuma 170---------------------------------------------------------igbo
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ChinenyeN(m): 3:50am On Jul 01, 2011
bashr4:

the onelga(ogbo,ndoni and etche) people are of ogbaru clan(peter odilli is from onelga) their brothers can be found in anambra too(atani,ohita,odekpe) and parts of imo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni
undecided etche onelga?
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 5:04am On Jul 01, 2011
ChinenyeN:

undecided etche onelga?

egbema sorry, etche is a local government of its own
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ak47mann(m): 7:19am On Jul 01, 2011
didn't know that most of the people in rivers state be igbo people cool
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ow11(m): 7:47am On Jul 01, 2011
bashr4:

in rivers state alone out of the 23 local governments 12 are  igbo 6 are  ijaw and 4 are  ogoni with opobo mixed with igbo and ijaw people. with this statistics i wonder who will put who where they belong in nigerdelta.


LGA Name Area (sq.km) Census 2006
population Administrative capital Postal
Code
Port Harcourt 109 541,115 Port Harcourt 500------------------igbo
Obio-Akpor 260 464,789 RumuokoroRumuodomaya[/b]500-------------------igbo
Okrika 222 222,026 Okrika 500----------------------ijaw
[b]Ogu/Bolo 89 74,683 Ogu 500-------------------igbo

Eleme 138 190,884 Eleme 501-------------ogoni
Tai 159 117,797 Sakpenwa 501------------ogoni
Gokana 126 228,828 Kpor 501---------------------ogoni
Khana 560 294,217 Bori 502-------------------ogoni
Oyigbo 248 122,687 Afam 502------------------------------igbo
Opobo/Nkoro 130 151,511 Opobo Town 503-------------------ijaw/igbo
Andoni 233 211,009 Ngo 503----------------------------ijaw
Bonny 642 215,358 Bonny 503---------------------ijaw
Degema 1,011 249,773 Degema 504-------------------ijaw
Asari-Toru 113 220,100 Buguma 504 -------------------ijaw
Akuku-Toru 1,443 156,006 Abonnema 504--------ijaw
Abua/Odua 704 282,988 Abua 510----------------------igbo
Ahoada West 403 249,425 Akinima 510-------------------igbo
Ahoada East 341 166,747 Ahoada 510-------------------igbo
Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni 969 284,010 Omuku Omoku 510-----------igbo
Emohua 831 201,901 Emohua 511---------------------igbo
Ikwerre 655 189,726 Isiokpo 511-----------------------igbo
Etche 805 249,454 Okehi 512------------------------igbo
Omuma 170 Eberi---------------------------------------------------------igbo




Ogu/Bolo LGA is occupied by Okrika (Ijaw) people, PH LGA (with Abuloma axis area) is also occupied by Okrika (Ijaw) people, Ahoada West is occupied by Engenni and Abua/Odual have a lot in common with Ogbia LGA in BY state
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 7:49am On Jul 01, 2011
ak47mann:

didn't know that most of the people in rivers state be igbo people cool
Don't underate the power of junk journalism,they would rather promote division in igboland,without nairaland,i wouldn't have known of the position of OWA kingdom on igbo identity issues,what we are used to were igbo denials by men like agbontaen being hyped by junk journalist,just like we witnessed with okachikwu dibia.
Ndiigbo in rivers even participate in adaigbo rivers state beauty pageant,we have a thread on that in nairaland,someone should help me to post the link.
ak47mann:

didn't know that most of the people in rivers state be igbo people cool
Don't underate the power of junk journalism,they would rather promote division in igboland,without nairaland,i wouldn't have known of the position of OWA kingdom on igbo identity issues,what we are used to were igbo denials by men like agbontaen being hyped by junk journalist,just like we witnessed with okachikwu dibia.
Ndiigbo in rivers even participate in adaigbo rivers state beauty pageant,we have a thread on that in nairaland,someone should help me to post the link.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ak47mann(m): 1:10pm On Jul 01, 2011
vicenzo:

  Don't underate the power of junk journalism,they would rather promote division in igboland,without nairaland,i wouldn't have known of the position of OWA kingdom on igbo identity issues,what we are used to were igbo denials by men like agbontaen being hyped by junk journalist,just like we witnessed with okachikwu dibia.
  Ndiigbo in rivers even participate in adaigbo rivers state beauty pageant,we have a thread on that in nairaland,someone should help me to post the link.  Don't underate the power of junk journalism,they would rather promote division in igboland,without nairaland,i wouldn't have known of the position of OWA kingdom on igbo identity issues,what we are used to were igbo denials by men like agbontaen being hyped by junk journalist,just like we witnessed with okachikwu dibia.
  Ndiigbo in rivers even participate in adaigbo rivers state beauty pageant,we have a thread on that in nairaland,someone should help me to post the link.


NA wa, igbo rivers should wake up now and realised that ANYI BU OFU soon very soon their brothers in the east will be doing wonders in both business and science and technology nobody can take our god gifted brain from us to manufacture and invent things that will make Nigeria proud cool cool cool cool
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by KnowAll(m): 1:21pm On Jul 01, 2011
The Anioma or Ikwerre man would most likely speak in English or better still pigeon English to a stranger or unassuming august visitor than our friends from the East Central areas,  who many a times think everyone understands their language. Salient differences like this in the act of social cohesion and accommodation of others are the attributes these two Igbo sub groups has which the East Centran Igbo lacks.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by phantom(m): 2:03pm On Jul 01, 2011
^^^^utter rubbish, read it again, if it still makes sense to you, see a doctor!
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:14pm On Jul 01, 2011
ow11:

Ogu/Bolo LGA is occupied by Okrika (Ijaw) people, PH LGA (with Abuloma axis area) is also occupied by Okrika (Ijaw) people, Ahoada West is occupied by Engenni and Abua/Odual have a lot in common with Ogbia LGA in BY state

yeah thanks for the correction , some local governments are not 100percent igbo or ijaw but mixed , i just wanted to correct that naija delta boy and his ignorant statement of putting the igbos where they belong.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 2:15pm On Jul 01, 2011
phantom:

^^^^utter rubbish, read it again, if it still makes sense to you, see a doctor!

Thanks
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Abagworo(m): 2:15pm On Jul 01, 2011
I wonder why you all are busy giving us inaccurate information about Rivers State.You guys should just stop it!

Let Rivers people determine their fate.Igbos and Ijaws should let them be.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:26pm On Jul 01, 2011
Abagworo:

I wonder why you all are busy giving us inaccurate information about Rivers State.You guys should just stop it!

Let Rivers people determine their fate.Igbos and Ijaws should let them be.

no we cant let them be cause tomorrow when something terrible happens and the person bears an igbo or ijaw name ,nobody will ask them whether they are from rivers or other igbo or ijaw states, the whole igbo or ijaw nation will be blamed for it. we cannot keep letting them be ,its just plain silly for every local govt in rivers to claim a different ethnic group. At least let people know exactly who they are.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 2:30pm On Jul 01, 2011
@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:31pm On Jul 01, 2011
portharcourt itself as the capital of rivers consisted of diobu, Oroworukwo, Mkpogua and Rumuomasi(igbo) and okirika (ijaw)

but today just like lagos it has expanded to 8 local government areas

Port-HarcourtLGA, Obio/Akpor LGA, Ikwerre LGA, ObigboLGA, -------IGBO
Ogu/Bolo LGA, okirika LGA------IJAW
Tai and Eleme LGA. -----------OGONI
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 2:32pm On Jul 01, 2011
The Ikwerre have no say in the matter. This confused bunch are an Igbo speaking people and if it was not for oil, they would still be considered Igbo. This is for their own good.

If you have Igbo names, your culture is Igbo and you speak our language, then what does that make you? An Igbo. . .

I could understand if they were a distinct group like the Ibibio who have a separate language, naming and culture from the Igbo, but these Ikwerre are IGBO! angry
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:35pm On Jul 01, 2011
vicenzo:

@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.


http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-325765.0.html

there it it for those that still claim that rivers igbo deny their herritage. 2 or 3 bigots going around the internet to deny they are not igbo does not men the rest agree with them.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by Afam4eva(m): 2:35pm On Jul 01, 2011
EzeUche:

The Ikwerre have no say in the matter. This confused bunch are an Igbo speaking people and if it was not for oil, they would still be considered Igbo. This is for their own good.

If you have Igbo names, your culture is Igbo and you speak our language, then what does that make you? An Igbo. . .

I could understand if they were a distinct group like the Ibibio who have a separate language, naming and culture from the Igbo, but these Ikwerre are IGBO! angry

Okwu
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 2:36pm On Jul 01, 2011
KnowAll:

The Anioma or Ikwerre man would most likely speak in English or better still pigeon English to a stranger or unassuming august visitor than our friends from the East Central areas,  who many a times think everyone understands their language. Salient differences like this in the act of social cohesion and accommodation of others are the attributes these two Igbo sub groups has which the East Centran Igbo lacks.

Why concern yourself with Igbo affairs? You Yorubas have your own problems when it comes to identity issues so stop worrying about Igbo clans.

Have you ever been to the East or even lived in the East? If you haven't, then you should shut up because this does not concern you. Do you understand?
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:40pm On Jul 01, 2011
EzeUche:

The Ikwerre have no say in the matter. This confused bunch are an Igbo speaking people and if it was not for oil, they would still be considered Igbo. This is for their own good.

If you have Igbo names, your culture is Igbo and you speak our language, then what does that make you? An Igbo. . .

I could understand if they were a distinct group like the Ibibio who have a separate language, naming and culture from the Igbo, but these Ikwerre are IGBO!  angry

ezeuche majority of them are not denying that its just a few that have time on the internet that are creating this mischief, as for the denial after the war we cannot be quick to judge them on that , only God knows what the wicked military would have done to them and their land if they had agreed they where igbo , maybe it would have been given to the ijaws to make sure no igboid group can lay claim to rivers state.
even the united nations after the war stated the same thing that the ikwerres claimed they are not igbo in other to survive the aftermath of the war.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 2:41pm On Jul 01, 2011
Let me tell you all the truth of the matter. The Ikwerre would be simply another insignificant Igbo clan to the majority if not for one major reason. They and some other groups are blocking Igbo access to the sea. It is not about oil. It have never been about oil, because the Igbo hinterland has plenty of oil from Anambra to Abia.

Access to the sea is not negotiable.

Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:48pm On Jul 01, 2011
EzeUche:

Let me tell you all the truth of the matter. The Ikwerre would be simply another insignificant Igbo clan to the majority if not for one major reason. They and some other groups are blocking Igbo access to the sea. It is not about oil. It have never been about oil, because the Igbo hinterland has plenty of oil from Anambra to Abia.

Access to the sea is not negotiable.



you always had access to the sea dont let that nigerian map fool you, the niger delta is more water than land.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ezeagu(m): 2:53pm On Jul 01, 2011
A lot of the 'land' under Port Harcourt is mangrove.

This stuff:

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Which is (one of the reasons) why Port Harcourt was built so far in-land.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 2:55pm On Jul 01, 2011
people always claim that ikwerre man or rivers man will fight you if you call him an  igbo man yet their traditional rulers are celebrating ada ndigbo in rivers state ,infact i think they came up with the trend, i always tell people not to take anything they read on nairaland seriously cause the situation is different in real life.

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-325765.0.html

the link again for those that have not seen the celebration.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 2:56pm On Jul 01, 2011
Port Harcourt is integral to the Ndigbo, because we need an Igbo SEA PORT.
 
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 3:01pm On Jul 01, 2011
ezeagu:


A lot of the 'land' under Port Harcourt is mangrove.

This stuff:

[center][/center]

Which is (one of the reasons) why Port Harcourt was built so far in-land.

yeah Nigerian map makes it look like theres land after portharcourt but its all just lakes, mangroove and swamps that lead to the ocean. ikwerres where never landlocked that's why amaechi is clearing illegal settlements in those areas.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 3:02pm On Jul 01, 2011
And the term "special Igbo" that [b]Knowall [/b]used to describe the Anioma and Ikwerrre is a slap in our faces. All Igbo groups are unique, but we have commonalities in language, culture and beliefs. Even villages in a particular area are diverse. That is the beauty of being Igbo. The diversity of our culture. Not something codified like our Hausa neighbors to the North and Yoruba neighbors to the West. 
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by EzeUche(m): 3:04pm On Jul 01, 2011
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Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by bashr4: 3:08pm On Jul 01, 2011
KnowAll:

The Anioma or Ikwerre man would most likely speak in English or better still pigeon English to a stranger or unassuming august visitor than our friends from the East Central areas,  who many a times think everyone understands their language. Salient differences like this in the act of social cohesion and accommodation of others are the attributes these two Igbo sub groups has which the East Centran Igbo lacks.


where are you from olodo, we know the people that speak their language even when strangers are around them unlike the igbos that are complaining their children cant even speak igbo. infact peter obi had to enforce teaching of igbo language in primary schools. when people like you make silly comments i feel like beating u up over the internet.
Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by ChinenyeN(m): 3:12pm On Jul 01, 2011
EzeUche, wetin? Is it that serious? Just relax.

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