The north has always rallied round a radical Muslim,a pious,sharia driven fellow usually Hausa fulani or kanuri.first was usman danfodio,then ahmadu bello and to an extent late gen yaradua and maitama sule and then buhari.kwankwaso is gradually getting such followershio in the mould of aminu kano...atiku does not fit that features,he is seen as too liberal minded and western minded unlike conservative buhari.moreover,he is not from the core north nor from the Muslim dominated states.Adamawa is evenly divided...

Atiku contested in 2007 and won no state.he lost the entire northeast while buhari won some states in the north west.in 2019,he won Adamawa narrowly same as taraba.borno and yobe literally buried him whilst giving him his lowest votes...

Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..
Again,apc is so entrenched in the north and pdp weak...


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and the same way the north will not vote for Peter Obi

The odd favours APC

It's better to use the voters card to park shit that to go out voting. My PVC goes to the highest bidder.

As it stands now who want to win Should win. I am not expecting anything better from anyone.

If obi can't president let atiku carry on

Felimax:
It's better to use the voters card to park shit that to go out voting. My PVC goes to the highest bidder.

As it stands now who want to win Should win. I am not expecting anything better from anyone.

is this what BAT ask you to come and tell us the youths are waiting

Toh

Leave the labourers in their delusions.

If APC lose in North, it is over for most of these governors, most of them are either going for senate or want to install their successor, they can't afford APC to lose.

garfield1:
Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..

Very valid points, but the two above are the most valid.

They are what informed the decision of the 13 northern governors to zone the APC ticket to the south, and the core reason Atiku will not receive needed support from Arewa.

There has to be a Nigeria first, before anyone can preside over it.

Peacecore:
What do the northern leaders stand to gain from working for Atiku? Lose their Guber posts, State n assembly seat, NASS bids in d name of scrambling for appointment?. Make we dey think abeg.

Another great point.

You forgot to add d 'VP/vp's people going rogue' factor!

#once_bitten_twice_shy

garfield1:
The north has always rallied round a radical Muslim,a pious,sharia driven fellow usually Hausa fulani or kanuri.first was usman danfodio,then ahmadu bello and to an extent late gen yaradua and maitama sule and then buhari.kwankwaso is gradually getting such followershio in the mould of aminu kano...atiku does not fit that features,he is seen as too liberal minded and western minded unlike conservative buhari.moreover,he is not from the core north nor from the Muslim dominated states.Adamawa is evenly divided...

Atiku contested in 2007 and won no state.he lost the entire northeast while buhari won some states in the north west.in 2019,he won Adamawa narrowly same as taraba.borno and yobe literally buried him whilst giving him his lowest votes...

Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..
Again,apc is so entrenched in the north and pdp weak...


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garfield1:
The north has always rallied round a radical Muslim,a pious,sharia driven fellow usually Hausa fulani or kanuri.first was usman danfodio,then ahmadu bello and to an extent late gen yaradua and maitama sule and then buhari.kwankwaso is gradually getting such followershio in the mould of aminu kano...atiku does not fit that features,he is seen as too liberal minded and western minded unlike conservative buhari.moreover,he is not from the core north nor from the Muslim dominated states.Adamawa is evenly divided...

Atiku contested in 2007 and won no state.he lost the entire northeast while buhari won some states in the north west.in 2019,he won Adamawa narrowly same as taraba.borno and yobe literally buried him whilst giving him his lowest votes...

Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..
Again,apc is so entrenched in the north and pdp weak...


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Some of u will be in the South and be assuming for us in the .

The north east have not rule this country before , the Southwest and done via Baba OBJ and presently as VP via Star Boy , as such , u think we in the north mostly north east and eve the Fulani community will leave our Son Atiku , for unhealthy Baba Tinubu who is from the second most benefited zone in democracy ?... Keep assuming, but the REALITY IN 2023 IS OUT PRESIDENT ALHAJI ATIKU ABUBAKAR


Let's see how Southerner would defeat a northerner in 2023 .... Infact Waziri Adamawa is wining the South with votes from SouthSouth and SouthEast...not to talk of NorthCentral and Northeast ...it is sealed for
Baba ATIKU , keep on ur assumptions

Danwakae:


Infact Waziri Adamawa is wining the South with votes from SouthSouth and SouthEast...not to talk of NorthCentral and Northeast ...it is sealed for
Baba ATIKU , keep on ur assumptions

Even with Atiku’s core support base (SS/SE) divided with the bulk of the votes going to Obi Pandora?

North Central (Niger, Nassarawa, Kogi, Kwara) are in Tinubu’s kitty while he is likely to share Benue & Plateau states with the opposition. Atiku has always struggled in his own North Eastern backyard and it will be tougher now with Shettima and Zulum working for Asiwaju. You don’t need to be told NW & SW are for Tinubu.

Danuwa no matter how you slice or dice it, it’s highly unlikely Atiku is getting anywhere in 2023. My humble 2 cents.

Yes the North will vote for Peter Obi

QuotaSystem:


Even with Atiku’s core support base (SS/SE) divided with the bulk of the votes going to Obi Pandora?

North Central (Niger, Nassarawa, Kogi, Kwara) are in Tinubu’s kitty while he shares Benue & Plateau with the opposition. Atiku has always struggled in his own North Eastern backyard and it will be tougher now with Shettima and Zulum working for Asiwaju.

Danuwa no matter how you slice or dice it, it’s highly unlikely Atiku is getting anywhere in 2023. My humble 2 cents.

Can you provide a statistical data of Atiku's votes in the North Central in all the presidential elections he has contested for so we can validate your claim that Atiku has always struggled in his North-central subregion?

Secondly don't you think Kwankwaso might prove to be a spoiler for APC in the Northwest where he come from especially in Kano where lots of votes will be split between NNPP, APC and maybe PDP?

garfield1:
The north has always rallied round a radical Muslim,a pious,sharia driven fellow usually Hausa fulani or kanuri.first was usman danfodio,then ahmadu bello and to an extent late gen yaradua and maitama sule and then buhari.kwankwaso is gradually getting such followershio in the mould of aminu kano...atiku does not fit that features,he is seen as too liberal minded and western minded unlike conservative buhari.moreover,he is not from the core north nor from the Muslim dominated states.Adamawa is evenly divided...

Atiku contested in 2007 and won no state.he lost the entire northeast while buhari won some states in the north west.in 2019,he won Adamawa narrowly same as taraba.borno and yobe literally buried him whilst giving him his lowest votes...

Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..
Again,apc is so entrenched in the north and pdp weak...


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The north cannot vote for Atiku but the Yorubas can vote for Tinubu. Lol ...

Abfinest007:
If obi can't president let atiku carry on

No,let tinubu carry o

Ayed44:
The north cannot vote for Atiku but the Yorubas can vote for Tinubu. Lol ...

North is not one singlelll tribe while Yoruba is made up of one tribe.it is not the north turn but southern turnl

QuotaSystem:


Very valid points, but the two above are the most valid.

They are what informed the decision of the 13 northern governors to zone the APC to the south, and the core reason Atiku will not receive needed support from Arewa, again.

There has to be a Nigeria first, before anyone can preside over it.

Gbam.are you from kano

Danwakae:


Some of u will be in the South and be assuming for us in the .

The north east have not rule this country before , the Southwest and done via Baba OBJ and presently as VP via Star Boy , as such , u think we in the north mostly north east and eve the Fulani community will leave our Son Atiku , for unhealthy Baba Tinubu who is from the second most benefited zone in democracy ?... Keep assuming, but the REALITY IN 2023 IS OUT PRESIDENT ALHAJI ATIKU ABUBAKAR


Let's see how Southerner would defeat a northerner in 2023 .... Infact Waziri Adamawa is wining the South with votes from SouthSouth and SouthEast...not to talk of NorthCentral and Northeast ...it is sealed for
Baba ATIKU , keep on ur assumptions

Oga,north east ruled for 6 years through tafawa balewa.abacha is aboriginally from kano.since 1999,north west has ruled twice so there's nothing wrong for southwest ruling twice.tinubu vice will be from ne and will take over from tinubu and then hand over to se...
Atiku is not any baba,the only baba we have is buhari.. Gej and obj almost defeated buhari up north

Ayed44:
The north cannot vote for Atiku but the Yorubas can vote for Tinubu. Lol ...

That why I stopped taking Yorubas seriously as far as this election is concerned. To them, Tinubu is already the President with his SW strong base. Lol

Ayed44:
The north cannot vote for Atiku but the Yorubas can vote for Tinubu. Lol ...

You dey mind the mugus? I'll keep saying it, Tinubu baboons in yorubaland enjoy deceiving themselves with make-me-happy tales. They hate bitter realities.

NwaIdeato:


Can you provide a statistical data of Atiku's votes in the North Central in all the presidential elections he has contested for so we can validate your claim that Atiku has always struggled in his North-central subregion?

Secondly don't you think Kwankwaso might prove to be a spoiler for APC in the Northwest where he come from especially in Kano where lots of votes will be split between NNPP, APC and maybe PDP?

In 2007 under acn,atiku did not win any state.he got 2 million and half of that was from the west which means that he got less than 500k in nc...in 2019,he won Benue by 8900 votes and plateau by 80,000 and won abuja by 100,000 votes but lost Niger,kwara,kogi and nasarawa by 700,000 votes...


In the north east,he won taraba by 50,000 Adamawa by 40,000 but lost bauchi by 500000,gombe by 300,000,borno by 800,000 and yobe by 400,000.you can see how buhari from north west rubbish atiku in his own home

garfield1:


In 2007 under acn,atiku did not win any state.he got 2 million and half of that was from the west which means that he got less than 500k in nc...in 2019,he won Benue by 8900 votes and plateau by 80,000 and won abuja by 100,000 votes but lost Niger,kwara,kogi and nasarawa by 700,000 votes...


In the north east,he won taraba by 50,000 Adamawa by 40,000 but lost bauchi by 500000,gombe by 300,000,borno by 800,000 and yobe by 400,000.you can see how buhari from north west rubbish atiku in his own home

Figures without stats, I'm not taking any of that with a grain of salt .

Atiku will sweep the North East and North central in 2023, you can take that to the bank and cash it, remember he's not contesting against Buhari this time...Buhari was like a God to the North in the 2015 and 2019 elections before his terrible government made him lose most of his grassroot support across the North, more people have died from bandit attacks in the North under Buhari's administration than most war-torn countries globally (that's says alot), and this will definitely count against APC in the upcoming election...people are honestly tired and done with APC especially in the North.

garfield1:


Oga,north east ruled for 6 years through tafawa balewa.abacha is aboriginally from kano.since 1999,north west has ruled twice so there's nothing wrong for southwest ruling twice.tinubu vice will be from ne and will take over from tinubu and then hand over to se...
Atiku is not any baba,the only baba we have is buhari.. Gej and obj almost defeated buhari up north

Ok , let's see , we are all in Nigeria

NwaIdeato:


Can you provide a statistical data of Atiku's votes in the North Central in all the presidential elections he has contested for so we can validate your claim that Atiku has always struggled in his North-central subregion?

Google is a free resource…and his sub-region isn’t North-Central but North-East. Go and verify.

Secondly don't you think Kwankwaso might prove to be a spoiler for APC in the Northwest where he come from especially in Kano where lots of votes will be split between NNPP, APC and maybe PDP?

Indeed he will cost APC some votes in Kano especially with Shekarau by his side, but overall, the party will likely win the state due to Ganduje’s machinery and the hugely underestimated incumbency factor. Furthermore, any lost votes will be counter-balanced by the SW bloc votes for APC, that used to be typically divided across parties.

garfield1:


Gbam.are you from kano

Nope

Cheers.

QuotaSystem:


Google is a free resource…and his sub-region isn’t North-Central but North-East. Go and verify.



Indeed he will cost APC some votes in Kano especially with Shekarau by his side, but overall, the party will likely win the state due to Ganduje’s machinery and the incumbency factor. Furthermore, any lost votes will be counter-balanced by the SW bloc votes for APC, that used to be typically divided across parties.

.....no thanks to our noisy neighbours who have successfully turned PDP and (now by extension) LP to an ethnic party!

QuotaSystem:


Google is a free resource…and his sub-region isn’t North-Central but North-East. Go and verify.



Indeed he will cost APC some votes in Kano especially with Shekarau by his side, but overall, the party will likely win the state due to Ganduje’s machinery and the incumbency factor. Furthermore, any lost votes will be counter-balanced by the SW bloc votes for APC, that used to be typically divided across parties.

Thanks for the correction about Atiku's subregion.

As for the second part of your point, don't you think the conundrum Buhari's mishandling of security issues across the North which has led to the death of so many might pose a problem for APC this time around? can the power of incumbency influence the dynamics of apparent dissatisfaction and discontent that have bedeviled certain sections of the North?

Ganduje isn't even popular in Kano anymore, the man has lost a ton of goodwill there among the grassroots even though he was fared creditably in the aspect of infrastructure in Kano...I doubt the Gandollars much hyped machinery will do much is counteracting the split votes Kano will get with the Kwankwaso/Shekarau resurgence.

What makes you so sure APC will get bloc votes in the SW? because Tinubu is on the presidential card? even that might not be enough reason to guarantee an outright bloc vote for Tinubu cause he isn't popular among a minority yet potent section of the SW demography (especially the Christians), of course Tinubu will win the SW as it's to be expected...but it might not be the landslide victory you think it would be.

NwaIdeato:


Thanks for the correction about Atiku's subregion.

As for the second part of your point, don't you think the conundrum Buhari's mishandling of security issues across the North which has led to the death of so many might pose a problem for APC this time around? can the power of incumbency influence the dynamics of apparent dissatisfaction and discontent that have bedeviled certain sections of the North?

Ganduje isn't even popular in Kano anymore, the man has lost a ton of goodwill there among the grassroots even though he was fared creditably in the aspect of infrastructure in Kano...I doubt the Gandollars much hyped machinery will do much is counteracting the split votes Kano will get with the Kwankwaso/Shekarau resurgence.

What makes you so sure APC will get bloc votes in the SW? because Tinubu is on the presidential card? even that might not be enough reason to guarantee an outright bloc vote for Tinubu cause he isn't popular among a minority yet potent section of the SW demography (especially the Christians), of course Tinubu will win the SW as it's to be expected...but it might not be the landslide victory you think it would be.

Let’s agree to disagree.

I made similar permutations before the last elections, and the result came out for all to see.

https://www.nairaland.com/4777914/throwback-why-atiku-lose-core

Honor10:
Leave the labourers in their delusions.

If APC lose in North, it is over for most of these governors, most of them are either going for senate or want to install their successor, they can't afford APC to lose.

I said this before that they shouldn't underestimate the roles of stakeholders n politics of interest. What do the northern leaders stand to gain from working for Atiku? Lose their Guber posts, State n assembly seat, NASS bids in d name of scrambling for appointment?. Make we dey think abeg.