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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 4:13pm On Jun 19, 2022
Danwakae:


Some of u will be in the South and be assuming for us in the .

The north east have not rule this country before , the Southwest and done via Baba OBJ and presently as VP via Star Boy , as such , u think we in the north mostly north east and eve the Fulani community will leave our Son Atiku , for unhealthy Baba Tinubu who is from the second most benefited zone in democracy ?... Keep assuming, but the REALITY IN 2023 IS OUT PRESIDENT ALHAJI ATIKU ABUBAKAR


Let's see how Southerner would defeat a northerner in 2023 .... Infact Waziri Adamawa is wining the South with votes from SouthSouth and SouthEast...not to talk of NorthCentral and Northeast ...it is sealed for
Baba ATIKU , keep on ur assumptions
North doesn't differentiate like us hear in south. What they want to know is that Hausa/Fulani cum Muslim has ruled, that's all.
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:14pm On Jun 19, 2022
We're just managing for now. Eventually,
there would be no Nigeria....its a matter of time
QuotaSystem:


Very valid points, but the two above are the most valid.

They are what informed the decision of the 13 northern governors to zone the APC to the south, and the core reason Atiku will not receive needed support from Arewa, again.

There has to be a Nigeria first, before anyone can preside over it.
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:19pm On Jun 19, 2022
30% of voters in SW are Igbos and other nationalities. This is in addition to Yorubas who would not vote for a corrupt old man as a matter of principle. Osinbajo supporrters too are not happy
garfield1:


North is not one singlelll tribe while Yoruba is made up of one tribe.it is not the north turn but southern turnl

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:21pm On Jun 19, 2022
After Yorubas ruled 4 times before Igbos rule once?

Is this the equity you want?
garfield1:


Oga,north east ruled for 6 years through tafawa balewa.abacha is aboriginally from kano.since 1999,north west has ruled twice so there's nothing wrong for southwest ruling twice.tinubu vice will be from ne and will take over from tinubu and then hand over to se...
Atiku is not any baba,the only baba we have is buhari.. Gej and obj almost defeated buhari up north

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:23pm On Jun 19, 2022
Who told you North don't differentiate? The NW has been subjugating the rest of the North.
Peacecore:
North doesn't differentiate like us hear in south. What they want to know is that Hausa/Fulani cum Muslim has ruled, that's all.
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Freedom34: 4:24pm On Jun 19, 2022
Try Nigerians by relocating to d east and let's see whether Nigerians will live or die without u. We've always known dt d core of d 'disobedient' pikins are Igbos masquerading as Nigerians!

"Give us biafla or we die" on Monday;
"We are 'obedient'" on Tuesday....

DMerciful:
We're just managing for now. Eventually, there would be no Nigeria....its a matter of time
Thanks for exposing ur intentions for Nigeria!
cool

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by NwaIdeato: 4:28pm On Jun 19, 2022
QuotaSystem:


Let’s agree to disagree.

I made similar permutations before the last elections, and the result was out for all to see.

https://www.nairaland.com/4777914/throwback-why-atiku-lose-core
Bro the circumstances of 2019 election isn't the same as 2023, Atiku was going up against a Buhari, a political demigod at the time to the North, even with all the so called Northern governors that Tinubu has on his side, are they really powerful enough to stop a determined Atiku who is going all make or break to win this election by all means necessary? time will tell but your permutations jn 2018 might not suffice for 2023, I actually predict a rerun of the 2023 election cause the margins might be very close.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by ArewaNorth: 4:30pm On Jun 19, 2022
garfield1:
The north has always rallied round a radical Muslim,a pious,sharia driven fellow usually Hausa fulani or kanuri.first was usman danfodio,then ahmadu bello and to an extent late gen yaradua and maitama sule and then buhari.kwankwaso is gradually getting such followershio in the mould of aminu kano...atiku does not fit that features,he is seen as too liberal minded and western minded unlike conservative buhari.moreover,he is not from the core north nor from the Muslim dominated states.Adamawa is evenly divided...

Atiku contested in 2007 and won no state.he lost the entire northeast while buhari won some states in the north west.in 2019,he won Adamawa narrowly same as taraba.borno and yobe literally buried him whilst giving him his lowest votes...

Again,the north have read the mood of the
nation and seen that power must go down south for Nigeria to remain as one which favours the north more.highest they will do is extract some firm commitment from tinubu not to rock the boat...

Again,the north knows that it is the turn of the south and they are honest people.if they were so powerdrunk,they would have voted atiku in 2019..
Again,apc is so entrenched in the north and pdp weak...


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Honestly, most people making analysis about North are extremely ignorant about the North. Among all the people u listed only Danfodiyo is devout Muslim all the rest are not in any way Islamic fundamentalist.
It is the fault of North for allowing ignorant people like you to write their history.
Go back to history of all the people u mentioned, Northerners like honest, kind, reputable, and gentle people who likes committing themselves to toward the development of masses. If u want to deceive ordinary Northerner just pretend to have the affirmentioned characteristics and see how u will gather mamoth followers.
Tell me one of those people u mentioned who wasn't very good servant to the Northern masses.
Mind you, Ahmadu Bello's being son of Sultan didn't make him very religious. Many of those you mentioned have some attitudes that are very unacceptable in Islam but their attitudes and commitment toward their people helped them won the minds of their people.
I recently l sent that some Christians think if you just pray, go to Mecca makes one devout Muslim but is much more than that and almost all those u mentioned don't do more than that.
Going by my assertion, I hope I can convince you to know that most people don't like Atiku because he wasn't good to his village not even Adamawa or North and he has never been. Ordinary road to his village, Ganye was death trap for more than 16yrs until Buhari recently rehabilitated it. Atiku don't like masses at all and has no aorta of concern for ordinary people, therefore, no way he can be loved in the North!
Go to Kano and hear what people say about Dangote, most people don't like him because his wealth wasn't felt much in the life of Kano people in terms of wealth creation and employment. Mind you Dangote and Abdussamad BUA are more religious than all those u mentioned except Danfodiyo. In BUA's family u can't own a car or drive until you memorised Qur'an, very religious family. Dangote's family are product of Almajiri system with deep root of religious fundamentalism!

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 4:30pm On Jun 19, 2022
NwaIdeato:


Thanks for the correction about Atiku's subregion.

As for the second part of your point, don't you think the conundrum Buhari's mishandling of security issues across the North which has led to the death of so many might pose a problem for APC this time around? can the power of incumbency influence the dynamics of apparent dissatisfaction and discontent that have bedeviled certain sections of the North?

Ganduje isn't even popular in Kano anymore, the man has lost a ton of goodwill there among the grassroots even though he was fared creditably in the aspect of infrastructure in Kano...I doubt the Gandollars much hyped machinery will do much is counteracting the split votes Kano will get with the Kwankwaso/Shekarau resurgence.

What makes you so sure APC will get bloc votes in the SW? because Tinubu is on the presidential card? even that might not be enough reason to guarantee an outright bloc vote for Tinubu cause he isn't popular among a minority yet potent section of the SW demography (especially the Christians), of course Tinubu will win the SW as it's to be expected...but it might not be the landslide victory you think it would be.
Oga some of the things I pointed out are correct but I have to counter some;
1. U said Buhari is no longer popular bcoz of insecurity in the north. Remember that the same thing was said about him during 2019 election that he has lose all his goodwills in the north, what happened at the end.
2. While are splitting Tinubu's vote in SW along religion? I'm from SE but I've lived in SW before I went back to East for school. Yoruba I know don't give a Bleep about religion. Many homes that I know have both parents in different religion n that has never posed any problem. So at the end, Tinubu will have about 80% of the vote casted da day while the other 20% will ce from outsiders especially my region.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:35pm On Jun 19, 2022
You guys were taunting Obi supporters that Ipob will not allow voting in the SE, but since that did not deter them, you've started another one that they're ipob.

Come up with another propaganda, you guys can do better. You dont expect this ipob linkage you're pushing to do anything, do you?
Freedom34:

Try Nigerians by relocating to d east and let's see whether Nigerians will live or die without u. We've always known dt d core of d 'disobedient' pikins are Igbos masquerading as Nigerians!

"Give us biafla or we die" on Monday;
"We are 'obedient'" on Tuesday....


Thanks for exposing ur intentions for Nigeria!
cool

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 4:35pm On Jun 19, 2022
DMerciful:
Who told you North don't differentiate? The NW has been subjugating the rest of the North.
And have u seen them complain? Rather they give massive support to them otherwise Atiku from the northeast that have never ruled would've defeated Buhari at least in the northeast states.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:38pm On Jun 19, 2022
They know this is their opportunity and if the NW refused supporting them this time, they'd begin to question if they're really benefitting from aligning with NW. There's a limit the NW can take them for granted esp supporting a Yoruba man ahead of their Fulani son
Peacecore:
And have u seen them complain? Rather they give massive support to them otherwise Atiku from the northeast that have never ruled would've defeated Buhari at least in the northeast states.
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by QuotaSystem: 4:40pm On Jun 19, 2022
NwaIdeato:

Bro the circumstances of 2019 election isn't the same as 2023, Atiku was going up against a Buhari, a political demigod at the time to the North

Actually they are eerily similar.

1. Trust/“Amana” Factor - Tinubu’s role in Buhari’s emergence and loyalty throughout his 8-year administration. This is the strongest wave Asiwaju is riding as regards his popularity and acceptance in the North. “Rikon Amana” is one of our cherished values up North.

It will also interest you to know that he has successfully inherited much, if not all of Buhari’s structure (with the accompanying goodwill) in the North.

2. SE V.P Factor - Even thought it’s now swung to the SS, Okowa’s recent assertions of his Igbo roots and Igbos growing presence in his state aren’t going unnoticed by those who cannot fathom an ipob apologist near the reins of power.

I’ll leave it at that for now.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 4:45pm On Jun 19, 2022
DMerciful:
They know this is their opportunity and if the NW refused supporting them this time, they'd begin to question if they're really benefitting from aligning with NW. There's a limit the NW can take them for granted esp supporting a Yoruba man ahead of their Fulani son
Do u think Igbo will support a man from Delta instead of a man from let's say Anambra? It won't happen. The northerners are so mixed up that a Fulani man from Niger Republic can enter one of the states and become a citizen of the state as far as u are a Muslim, their binding entity.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 4:49pm On Jun 19, 2022
This Op will just bring his personal wish as facts, apc always win in all your biased analysis.Still waiting for AndyUba to win Anambra.Northerners are not fools, if you think sw will vote tinubu.North
East that has not produced a President before will vote their son Atiku.Tinubu have many corruption baggages already.The only people supporting him are corrupt people hoping to gain something from him.The real masses hate him even down here in the SS and SE.Edo disgrace will be a child's play to the embarrassing votes he will get this time.The north does not support people with corruption baggages.Northwest will vote Kwankwanso instead which will be a big loss to apc stronghold

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Freedom34: 4:50pm On Jun 19, 2022
Did u just hear ursef?
What's d diff BTW ur desire and Igbos? None!

U, as a ('disobedient' pikin ) are praying for d destruction of Nigeria, same with ipob. Same ideology, so what's d propaganda there biko?
Abi u nor know d meaning of propaganda?

DMerciful:
You guys were taunting Obi supporters that Ipob will not allow voting in the SE, but since that did not deter them, you've started another one that they're ipob.

Come up with another propaganda, you guys can do better. You dont expect this ipob linkage you're pushing to do anything, are you?

DMerciful:
We're just managing for now. Eventually, there would be no Nigeria....its a matter of time

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:51pm On Jun 19, 2022
The North experienced more deaths and suffering under Bubu than any other president before him so how does the North blindly believe in Bubu when they should be angry with his ineptitude?
QuotaSystem:
[b]

Actually they are eerily similar.

1. Trust/“Amana” Factor - Tinubu’s role in Buhari’s emergence and loyalty throughout his 8-year administration. This is the strongest wave Asiwaju is riding as regards his popularity and acceptance in the North. “Rikon Amana” is one of our cherished values up North.

It will also interest you to know that he has successfully inherited much, if not all of Buhari’s structure (with the accompanying goodwill) in the North.

2. SE V.P Factor - Even thought it’s now swung to the SS, Okowa’s recent assertions of his Igbo roots and Igbos growing presence in his state aren’t going unnoticed by those who cannot fathom an ipob apologist near the reins of power.

I’ll leave it at that for now.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by PaChukwudi44(m): 4:52pm On Jun 19, 2022
garfield1:


Gbam.are you from kano
Bros is an original Yoruba man

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:53pm On Jun 19, 2022
Nigeria has never been one, we do not like each other and it will only grow worse.
Freedom34:


Did u just hear ursef?
What's d diff BTW ur desire and Igbos? None!

U, as a ('disobedient' pikin ) are praying for d destruction of Nigeria, same with ipob. Same ideology, so what's d propaganda there biko?
Abi u nor know d meaning of propaganda?




Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 4:55pm On Jun 19, 2022
Igbos supported Yaradua, Obj, Atiku.....Igbos can literally support anybody provided they believe the person will be fair.
Peacecore:
Do u think Igbo will support a man from Delta instead of a man from let's say Anambra? It won't happen. The northerners are so mixed up that a Fulani man from Niger Republic can enter one of the states and become a citizen of the state as far as u are a Muslim, their binding entity.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by NwaIdeato: 4:56pm On Jun 19, 2022
QuotaSystem:
[b]

Actually they are eerily similar.

1. Trust/“Amana” Factor - Tinubu’s role in Buhari’s emergence and loyalty throughout his 8-year administration. This is the strongest wave Asiwaju is riding as regards his popularity and acceptance in the North. “Rikon Amana” is one of our cherished values up North.

It will also interest you to know that he has successfully inherited much, if not all of Buhari’s structure (with the accompanying goodwill) in the North.

2. SE V.P Factor - Even thought it’s now swung to the SS, Okowa’s recent assertions of his Igbo roots and Igbos growing presence in his state aren’t going unnoticed by those who cannot fathom an ipob apologist near the reins of power.

I’ll leave it at that for now.
Atiku is a core Northerner, he will definitely get massive votes in the North, so your Amana mantra or whatever gibberish it means can only get Tinubu far enough, but will he get that extra ace card a core Northern son of the soil will get to get him across the finish line? I won't stop bringing up the Kwankwansiyya factor that might pose a problem for any chances of Tinubu getting bloc votes in the North west.


As for your rants about Okowa asserting his Igbo identity and your preposterous claim of growing IPOB presence in Delta state (which I know you can't prove if challenged to substantiate with proof ), I'll just make one thing clear, Ifeanyi Okowa is Igbo today or Ika tomorrow only based on political convenience, a rhetoric that is well known among every enlightened Nigerian...there's no guarantee Okowa's public announcement of been Igbo will be enough to attract sympathy from Igbos of the SE cause we've been down that lane before and won't fall for it anymore, yet we embrace Okowa as our own inspite of the identity crisis complexes prevalent among some Igbo speaking parts in the SS....

And oh, your attempt at willfully painting Okowa as some potential IPOB apologist when you know his state has never (save for only one incident of IPOB disturbances few months ago)experienced any of the useless sit at home and other related IPOB activities as you see in East shows how myopic, devious, uninformed and daft you are...I might as well paintbrush every Northerner as a Boko haram and ISWAP sympathizer right?

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by QuotaSystem: 5:01pm On Jun 19, 2022
NwaIdeato:

Atiku is a core Northerner, he will definitely get massive votes in the North, so your Amana mantra or whatever gibberish it means can only get Tinubu far enough, but will he get that extra ace card a core Northern son of the soil will get to get him across the finish line? I won't stop bringing up the Kwankwansiyya factor that might pose a problem for any chances of Tinubu getting bloc votes in the North west.


As for your rants about Okowa asserting his Igbo identity and your preposterous claim of growing IPOB presence in Delta state (which I know you can't prove if challenged to substantiate with proof ), I'll just make one thing clear, Ifeanyi Okowa is Igbo today or Ika tomorrow only based on political convenience, a rhetoric that is well known among every enlightened Nigerian...there's no guarantee Okowa's public announcement of been Igbo will be enough to attract sympathy from Igbos of the SE cause we've been down that lane before and won't fall for it anymore, yet we embrace Okowa as our own inspite of the identity crisis complexes prevalent among some Igbo speaking parts in the SS....

And oh, your attempt at willfully painting Okowa as some potential IPOB apologist when you know his state has never (save for only one incident of IPOB disturbances few months ago)experienced any of the useless sit at home and other related IPOB activities as you see in East shows how myopic, devious, uninformed and daft you are...I might as well paintbrush every Northerner as a Boko haram and ISWAP sympathizer right?

Rein in your emotions. Elections aren’t won by insults.

Bye.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Freedom34: 5:02pm On Jun 19, 2022
That's d more reason I will cast my vote for the one who has stood by me and even fought his leader on my behalf; .....and stay farrrrrr away from d one(s) who has never hidden his hate and bitterness for me and whatever I stand for.

It will be fuulishness for me to bypass d ones who have shown unhidden love to me and favor d onces who have shown unhidden hatred for me.

It will be imbecílic for me to bypass a friend who openly profess his love for me in favor of d one who sees me as his eternal enemy!

DMerciful:
Nigeria has never been one, we do not like each other and it will only grow worse.

Dey ur dey and I dey my dey.
Let everybody hol' him mama brezz!
cool

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 5:02pm On Jun 19, 2022
HIGHESTPOPORI:
This Op will just bring his personal wish as facts, apc always win in all your biased analysis.Still waiting for AndyUba to win Anambra.Northerners are not fools, if you think sw will vote tinubu.North
East that has not produced a President before will vote their son Atiku.Tinubu have many corruption baggages already.The only people supporting him are corrupt people hoping to gain something from him.The real masses hate him even down here in the SS and SE.Edo disgrace will be a child's play to the embarrassing votes he will get this time.The north does not support people with corruption baggages.Northwest will vote Kwankwanso instead which will be a big loss to apc stronghold
Good to know that they'll neither vote Tinubu more Atiku bcoz two of them are corrupt. Where do u then think that Atiku has the hope of winning? Tinubu southwest.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 5:03pm On Jun 19, 2022
Peacecore:
Good to know that they'll neither vote Tinubu more Atiku bcoz two of them are corrupt. Where do u then think that Atiku has the hope of winning? Tinubu southwest.
NortEast his home base and North Central, apart from Sw, tinubu is not winning any other zone
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by garfield1: 5:04pm On Jun 19, 2022
DMerciful:
After Yorubas ruled 4 times before Igbos rule once?

Is this the equity you want?

Igbos should play the right politics and rule

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 5:05pm On Jun 19, 2022
DMerciful:
Igbos supported Yaradua, Obj, Atiku.....Igbos can literally support anybody provided they believe the person will be fair.
Now be honest in this 2023 election, who do u think the Igbos will support? Now that our long anticipated wish on the hand of the party we supported with our blood has been dashed, and here is a real Igbo man on our presence.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Advocate500: 5:05pm On Jun 19, 2022
garfield1:


In 2007 under acn,atiku did not win any state.he got 2 million and half of that was from the west which means that he got less than 500k in nc...in 2019,he won Benue by 8900 votes and plateau by 80,000 and won abuja by 100,000 votes but lost Niger,kwara,kogi and nasarawa by 700,000 votes...


In the north east,he won taraba by 50,000 Adamawa by 40,000 but lost bauchi by 500000,gombe by 300,000,borno by 800,000 and yobe by 400,000.you can see how buhari from north west rubbish atiku in his own home
and Tinubu will win all this places? Arguing something that is as clear as anything is a waste of time.

Most of you will bring the argument of apc governors being present in most of those states, forgetting that the support given to presidential candidate is from governors. Keep dreaming.
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 5:07pm On Jun 19, 2022
garfield1:


Igbos should play the right politics and rule
Umahi , Rochas , Onu have not played the right politics or they were used and dumped in apc
Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 5:13pm On Jun 19, 2022
Igbos will support Obi not because he is Igbo but he has proven to be the most transparent, the best financial manager of public funds, and younger especially at a time in Nigeria history when cutting cost of governance is much needed if we're to survive the impending crises.

If you think because he is Igbo, swap with Rochas or Kalu and see how Igbos abandon this momentum
Peacecore:
Now be honest in this 2023 election, who do u think the Igbos will support? Now that our long anticipated wish on the hand of the party we supported with our blood has been dashed, and here is a real Igbo man on our presence.

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by Peacecore: 5:14pm On Jun 19, 2022
HIGHESTPOPORI:
NortEast his home base and North Central, apart from Sw, tinubu is not winning any other zone
Are NE and some NC not north or Muslim that have aversion for corruption or those two regions show sentiment to corrupt individuals based on origin?

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Re: Why The North Will Not Vote For Atiku Heavily by DMerciful(m): 5:15pm On Jun 19, 2022
What is the right politics? Agreeing with NW on an incompetent candidate like Bubu who has proven Igbos right when they refused to support him?

Did Igbos not voted masively for Yaradua? Is Yaradua not from Katsina like Bubu?
garfield1:


Igbos should play the right politics and rule

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