Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 2:03pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
What u describing is the body Yes, so Who gave man two hands and two feet and created them exactly as they are today, and exactly as they were in the time of Adam and Eve? |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 2:08pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
Do you know what “ALL knowing” mean? So your god does not know the particular choice you’ll choose?
Gamblers knows the end of all choices available in a game but don’t know how the game will go. Gamblers don’t know the future, your god also doesn’t that’s why he keeps regretting.
If your god doesn’t know exactly what will happen in the future, that means the book of revelation is a farce. God knows the decision u will make in the present because he knows your heart and understands your thoughts. For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you. Gamblers don't even know their own next thoughts, they wait for the next turn of cards to adjust their game. The book of revelation is for a certain future when humanity and earth is over, and no more choices. What we have is judgement. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 2:11pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
God knows the decision u will make in the present because he knows your heart and understands your thoughts. For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you. Gamblers don't even know their own next thoughts, they wait for the next turn of cards to adjust their game. The book of revelation is for a certain future when humanity and earth is over, and no more choices. What we have is judgement. So your god does not know all things, he is also waiting and hoping for what will happen in the future? no wonder he keeps regretting like gamblers when they stake wrongly. Your god is not all knowing. Your god also doesn’t know anyone next thoughts just like the gamblers, he is also waiting. How is the book of revelation certain since he doesn’t know what will happen in the future as he is waiting according to what you said. You keep contradicting yourself. If your god knows the future that means he knows your future choices before you made it in the present yet you have freewill lol You keep contradicting yourself. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 2:47pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
What u describing is the body Also you said adam was greedy that’s why he disobeyed. So Adam had all these traits of disobedience and greediness BEFORE he even ate the fruit, where did he learn it from? Who put it in him? Did Yahweh know that adam would sin? 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 2:52pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
So your god does not know all things, he is also waiting and hoping for what will happen in the future? no wonder he keeps regretting like gamblers when they stake wrongly. Your god is not all knowing.
Your god also doesn’t know anyone next thoughts just like the gamblers, he is also waiting.
How is the book of revelation certain since he doesn’t know what will happen in the future as he is waiting according to what you said. You keep contradicting yourself.
If your god knows the future that means he knows your future choices before you made it in the present yet you have freewill lol You keep contradicting yourself.
See this one. Do u know where u will be in 2050. Do u know what decision u will make on 24/5/2026. Do u for certain where u will be on that day. God already knows all possible choices available at your whim this time next year depending on how you choose to live your life now. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 2:55pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
See this one. Do u know where u will be in 2050. Do u know what decision u will make on 24/5/2026. Do u for certain where u will be on that day. God already knows all possible choices available at your whim this time next year depending on how you choose to live your life now. your god does not know exactly what will happen this time next year he only knows POSSIBLE choices, just like a gambler doesn’t know exactly how the game will end he only knows POSSIBLE choices. Your god does not know EVERYTHING, he is not omniscience. Your god does not know what will happen in the future for SURE. Also how does your god even know the possible choices available to me next year? My choices this evening can affect where I’ll be next year and like you said earlier “ For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you.” How does he know my future if he is waiting for me? You keep contradicting yourself. 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 3:13pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
Also you said adam was greedy that’s why he disobeyed. So Adam had all these traits of disobedience and greediness BEFORE he even ate the fruit, where did he learn it from? Who put it in him? Did Yahweh know that adam would sin?
Ok let me tell u why God made man. God wanted beings that will obey and worship him because they choose to. Celestial beings don't have that choice, they are all compelled to obey and worship God. Now God gave man a soul that makes decision for him. Of course God wants us to worship him but he wants it to come from our free will. With the help of the spirit , it was meant to be obedience to God forever. God gave Adam that choice in the garden. It was left for Adam to choose his path based on the leading of his soul. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 3:14pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
Ok let me tell u why God made man. God wanted beings that will obey and worship him because they choose to. Celestial beings don't have that choice, they are all compelled to obey and worship God. Now God gave man a soul that makes decision for him. Of course God wants us to worship him but he wants it to come from our free will. With the help of the spirit , it was meant to be obedience to God forever. God gave Adam that choice in the garden. It was left for Adam to choose his path based on the leading of his soul. How then did satan rebel if they have no choice? Who created satan and its nature? if God created man's eyes, legs and mind, he also created man's desires; all his desires, even his desire for knowledge and sex. Why did man sin? Is just like you setting someone ablaze and then telling them not to react to it and if they react they have disobeyed. If an all-powerful and all-knowing being creates everything, and allows his creations to react in a certain way, he actually intended them to act in that way and is solely responsible for the results. 3 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 4:17pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
But your god doesn’t know exactly what will happen this time next year he only knows POSSIBLE choices, just like a gambler doesn’t know exactly how the game will end he only knows POSSIBLE choices. Your god does not know EVERYTHING, he is not omniscience.
Your god does not know what will happen in the future for SURE.
Also how does your god even know the possible choices available to me next year? My choices this evening can affect where I’ll be next year and like you said earlier “ For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you.” How does he know my future if he is waiting for me?
You keep contradicting yourself. Let's define all knowing God. This doesn't mean he has a fixed destiny for u with definite outcome without any alternative. No that's not all knowing but pre-destination. God only pre-destined for those who have commited their lives fully to him and surrendered to his will totally. His children who have said 'God take my soul, it's yours. Let your will be done in my life' For the rest of mankind, God's desire is to bring us into his fold. He knows the pathway u taking will definitely lead to destruction if u continue in it- he knows those choices and the eventual outcome, either present or the future. However he has another future for sinners if they can revert from their evil ways and turn to him. Thats a choice u have to make. So according to above, God knows your future if you continur to disobey him but also knows a better future for u if u embrace him and come into his fold. That is the meaning of all knowing God. He knows ALL THE CHOICES AVAILABLE, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT U WHICHEVER WAY U TURN and the eventual outcome. Nothing takes him by surprise. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 4:20pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
Yes, so Who gave man two hands and two feet and created them exactly as they are today, and exactly as they were in the time of Adam and Eve? It's not clear what u getting at here? God made man including his 2 hands and feet which is his body. Sorry u not making yourself clear with your repeated body question. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 4:20pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
Let's define all knowing God. This doesn't mean he has a fixed destiny for u with definite outcome without any alternative. No that's not all knowing but pre-destination. God only pre-destined for those who have commited their lives fully to him and surrendered to his will totally. His children who have said 'God take my soul, it's yours. Let your will be done in my life' For the rest of mankind, God's desire is to bring us into his fold. He knows the pathway u taking will definitely lead to destruction if u continue in it- he knows those choices and the eventual outcome, either present or the future. However he has another future for sinners if they can revert from their evil ways and turn to him. Thats a choice u have to make. So according to above, God knows your future if you continur to disobey him but also knows a better future for u if u embrace him and come into his fold. That is the meaning of all knowing God. He knows ALL THE CHOICES AVAILABLE, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT U WHICHEVER WAY U TURN and the eventual outcome. Nothing takes him by surprise.
But god does not know if i will continue to disobey him or not? How does your god know the future if he does not even know the exact choice I’ll pick in the next 1 minute? YOUR GOD DOES NOT KNOW THE EXACT CHOICE I WILL PICK, he only knows available choices. If he doesn’t know the exact choice I’ll pick, when i do it will suprise him. Your god does not know EVERYTHING. Your god is not all knowing. 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 4:21pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
It's not clear what u getting at here? God made man including his 2 hands and feet which is his body. Sorry u not making yourself clear with your repeated body question. My question is simple enough it’s you that’s complicating it. Is man's nature a part of man, just as hands and feet are a part of man? God made man and that same God is angry at what he made lol 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 4:28pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 4:30pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
He knows ALL THE CHOICES AVAILABLE, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT U WHICHEVER WAY U TURN and the eventual outcome. Nothing takes him by surprise.
An all knowing god has no business with “available choices” that’s GAMBLING, an all knowing god knows EXACTLY the choice you’ll make. Using your logic your god does not know what will happen tomorrow, he only knows what can possible happen, i can also do that. Look up what omniscience means 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by FxMasterz: 4:47pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
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Na only Muslim dey your skull? We're not like you who always need lies and even more lies to defend the Quran. Anyone who reads the Bible would already see that the contents of the OP is a very poor attempt to make none contextual sentences appear as gafes. Thankfully, knowledgeable Christians who have graced this page have suplied the needed answers. The major difference here is that in your own case, you become so shockingly embarrassed that you cannot provide any single answer to the issues raised in your Quran. In most cases you run and pretend as though the thread never happened. Keep deceiving yourselves. Your job is to defend Islam at all cost even with its obvious lies. The end will tell. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 4:52pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Hello everyone. So apparently I was involved in a discourse with this good dude in a thread about the best argument for the existence of god. So during the debate, he challenged me to post the errors, lies, contradictions, miseducations etc in the bible. So I promised him I'm gon raise a thread and invite peeps to share their views and throw more lights about such gaffes Now this isn't by any chance all of them, but the ones I can get my hands on in short notice. I'll post more gaffes as I run my rule over this book. I'll try to make them genealogical, that is from Genesis to Revelation, but sometimes I may jump the gun. Do bear with me. I may miss some, so y'all can chip in. Some may also not be errors but misjudgment on my part, so y'all can correct too. Please lets keep this as insult-free as possible. So here goes… The bible is supposedly a book written or inspired by a supreme being. Obviously it has to be perfect as theists tell us.
CHAPTER 1 1. God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples 2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48 3. God dwells in light Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness 1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/ Ex 24:9-11 God is invisible and cannot be heard John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests Ex 31:17 God is never tired and never rests Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21 God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3 God tries men to find out what is in their heart Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26 God is not all powerful Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19 God is changeable Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/ Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25 God is unjust and partial Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25 God is not the author of evil 1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask James 1:5/ Luke 11:10 God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving them John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
13. God is to be found by those who seek him Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17 God is not to be found by those who seek him Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15 God is peaceful Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19 God is kind, merciful, and good James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/ 1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
16. God's anger is fierce and endures long Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4 God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings, sacrifices ,and holy days Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9 God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings, sacrifices, and holy days. Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
18. God accepts human sacrifices 2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39 God forbids human sacrifice Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13 God tempts no man James 1:13
20. God cannot lie Heb 6:18 God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive 2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him Gen 6:5,7 Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in his works. Rom 1:20 God's attributes cannot be discovered Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
23. There is but one God Deut 6:4 There is a plurality of gods Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7
Moral Precepts
24. Robbery commanded Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36 Robbery forbidden Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15 25. Lying approved and sanctioned Josh 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Ex 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22 Lying forbidden Ex 20:16/ Prov 12:22/ Rev 21:8 26. Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned 2 Kings 14:7,3 Hatred to the Edomite forbidden Deut 23:7 27. Killing commanded Ex 32:27 Killing forbidden Ex 20:13 28. The blood-shedder must die Gen 9:5,6 The blood-shedder must not die Gen 4:15 29. The making of images forbidden Ex 20:4 The making of images commanded Ex 25:18,20 30. Slavery and oppression ordained Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8 Slavery and oppression forbidden Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10 31. Improvidence enjoyed Matt 6:28,31,34/ Luke 6:30,35/ Luke 12:3 Improvidence condemned 1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22 32. Anger approved Eph 4:26 Anger disapproved Eccl 7:9/ Prov 22:24/ James 1:20 33. Good works to be seen of men Matt 5:16 Good works not to be seen of men Matt 6:1 34. Judging of others forbidden Matt 7:1,2 Judging of others approved 1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12 35. Christ taught non-resistance Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52 Christ taught and practiced physical resistance Luke 22:36/ John 2:15 36. Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed Luke 12:4 Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed John 7:1 37. Public prayer sanctioned 1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3 Public prayer disapproved Matt 6:5,6 38. Importunity in prayer commended Luke 18:5,7 Importunity in prayer condemned Matt 6:7,8 39. The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5 The wearing of long hair by men condemned 1 Cor 11:14 40. Circumcision instituted Gen 17:10 Circumcision condemned Gal 5:2 41. The Sabbath instituted Ex 20:8 The Sabbath repudiated Is 1:13/ Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16 42. The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day Ex 20:11 The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites out of Egypt Deut 5:15 43. No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death Ex 31:15/ Num 15:32,36 Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples in the same John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5 44. Baptism commanded Matt 28:19 Baptism not commanded 1 Cor 1:17,14 45. Every kind of animal allowed for food. Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14 Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food. Deut 14:7,8 46. Taking of oaths sanctioned Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13 Taking of oaths forbidden Matt 5:34 47. Marriage approved Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4 Marriage disapproved 1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8 48. Freedom of divorce permitted Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14 Divorce restricted Matt 5:32 49. Adultery forbidden Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4 Adultery allowed Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3 50. Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17 Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16 51. A man may marry his brother's widow Deut 25:5 A man may not marry his brother's widow Lev 20:21 52. Hatred to kindred enjoined Luke 14:26 Hatred to kindred condemned Eph 6:2/ Eph 5:25,29 53. Intoxicating beverages recommended Prov 31:6,7/ 1 Tim 5:23/ Ps 104:15 Intoxicating beverages discountenanced Prov 20:1/ Prov 23:31,32 54. It is our duty to obey our rulers, who are God's ministers and punish evil doers only Rom 13:1-3,6 It is not our duty to obey rulers, who sometimes punish the good and receive unto themselves damnation therefor Ex 1:17,20/ Dan 3:16,18/ Dan 6:9,7,10/ Acts 4:26,27/ Mark 12:38,39,40/ Luke 23:11,24,33,35 55. Women's rights denied Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor 14:34/ 1 Pet 3:6 Women's rights affirmed Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/ Acts 21:9 56. Obedience to masters enjoined Col 3:22,23/ 1 Pet 2:18 Obedience due to God only Matt 4:10/ 1 Cor 7:23/ Matt 23:10 57. There is an unpardonable sin Mark 3:29 There is not unpardonable sin Acts 13:39
Historical Facts
58. Man was created after the other animals Gen 1:25,26,27 Man was created before the other animals Gen 2:18,19 59. Seed time and harvest were never to cease Gen 8:22 Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years Gen 41:54,56/ Gen 45:6 60. God hardened Pharaoh's heart Ex 4:21/ Ed 9:12 Pharaoh hardened his own heart Ex 8:15 61. All the cattle and horses in Egypt died Ex 9:3,6/ 14:9 All the horses of Egypt did not die Ex 14:9 62. Moses feared Pharaoh Ex 2:14,15,23; 4:19 Moses did not fear Pharaoh Heb 11:27 63. There died of the plague twenty-four thousand Num 25:9 There died of the plague but twenty-three thousand 1 Cor 10:8 64. John the Baptist was Elias Matt 11:14 John the Baptist was not Elias John 1:21 65. The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob Matt 1:16 The father of Mary's husband was Heli Luke 3:23 66. The father of Salah was Arphaxad Gen 11:12 The father of Salah was Cainan Luke 3:35,36 67. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:17 There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:2-6 68. There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to Christ. Matt 1:17 There were but thirteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to Christ Matt 1:12-16 69. The infant Christ was taken into Egypt Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23 The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt Luke 2:22, 39 70. Christ was tempted in the wilderness Mark 1:12,13 Christ was not tempted in the wilderness John 2:1,2 71. Christ preached his first sermon on the mount Matt 5:1,2 Christ preached his first sermon on the plain Luke 6:17,20 72. John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee John 1:43/ John 3:22-24 73. Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff and sandals Mark 6:8,9 Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither staffs nor sandals. Matt 10:9,10 74. A woman of Canaan besought Jesus Matt 15:22 It was a Greek woman who besought Him Mark 7:26 75. Two blind men besought Jesus Matt 20:30 Only one blind man besought Him Luke 18:35,38 76. Christ was crucified at the third hour Mark 15:25 Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour John 19:14,15 77. The two thieves reviled Christ. Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32 Only one of the thieves reviled Christ Luke 23:39,40 78. Satan entered into Judas while at supper John 13:27 Satan entered into him before the supper Luke 22:3,4,7 79. Judas committed suicide by hanging Matt 27:5 Judas did not hang himself, but died another way Acts 1:18 80. The potter's field was purchased by Judas Acts 1:18 The potter's field was purchased by the Chief Priests Matt 27:6,7
81. There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre John 20:1 There were two women who came to the sepulchre Matt 28:1 82. There were three women who came to the sepulchre Mark 16:1 There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre Luke 24:10
83. It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre Mark 16:2 It was some time before sunrise when they came. John 20:1
84. There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and they were standing up. Luke 24:4 There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down. Matt 28:2,5 85. There were two angels seen within the sepulchre. John 20:11,12 There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre Mark 16:5
86. Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave Matt 12:40 Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9> 87. Holy ghost bestowed at pentecost Acts 1:8,5 Holy ghost bestowed before pentecost John 20:22 88. The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go into Galilee Matt 28:10 The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem Luke 24:49 89. Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at Jerusalem Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19 Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee Matt 28:16,17 90. Christ ascended from Mount Olivet Acts 1:9,12 Christ ascended from Bethany Luke 24:50,51 91. Paul's attendants heard the miraculous voice, and stood speechless Acts 9:7 Paul's attendants heard not the voice and were prostrate Acts 26:14 92. Abraham departed to go into Canaan Gen 12:5 Abraham went not knowing where Heb 11:8 93. Abraham had two sons Gal 4:22 Abraham had but one son Heb 11:17 94. Keturah was Abraham's wife Gen 25:1 Keturah was Abraham's concubine 1 Chron 1:32 95. Abraham begat a son when he was a hundred years old, by the interposition of Providence Gen 21:2/ Rom 4:19/ Heb 11:12 Abraham begat six children more after he was a hundred years old without any interposition of providence Gen 25:1,2 96. Jacob bought a sepulchre from Hamor Josh 24:32 Abraham bought it of Hamor Acts 7:16 97. God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed forever Gen 13:14,15,17; 17:8 Abraham and his seed never received the promised land Acts 7:5/ Heb 11:9,13 98. Goliath was slain by Elhanan 2 Sam 21:19 *note, was changed in translation to be correct. Original manuscript was incorrect> The brother of Goliath was slain by Elhanan 1 Chron 20:5 99. Ahaziah began to reign in the twelfth year of Joram 2 Kings 8:25 Ahaziah began to reign in the eleventh year of Joram 2 Kings 9:29 100. Michal had no child 2 Sam 6:23 Michal had five children 2 Sam 21:8
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 4:56pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
jaephoenix: CHAPTER 2 This is a pretty long book. Had to compile from different sources. These are not all my works, please.
101. David was tempted by the Lord to number Israel 2 Sam 24:1 David was tempted by Satan to number the people 1 Chron 21:1 102. The number of fighting men of Israel was 800,000; and of Judah 500,000 2 Sam 24:9 The number of fighting men of Israel was 1,100,000; and of Judah 470,000 1 Chron 21:5 103. David sinned in numbering the people 2 Sam 24:10 David never sinned, except in the matter of Uriah 1 Kings 15:5 104. One of the penalties of David's sin was seven years of famine. 2 Sam 24:13 It was not seven years, but three years of famine 1 Chron 21:11,12 105. David took seven hundred horsemen 2 Sam 8:4 David took seven thousand horsemen 1 Chron 18:4 106. David bought a threshing floor for fifty shekels of silver 2 Sam 24:24 David bought the threshing floor for six hundred shekels of gold 1 Chron 21:25 107. David's throne was to endure forever. Ps 89:35-37 David's throne was cast down Ps 89:44
Speculative Doctrines
108. Christ is equal with God John 10:30/ Phil 2:5 Christ is not equal with God John 14:28/ Matt 24:36 109. Jesus was all-powerful Matt 28:18/ John 3:35 Jesus was not all-powerful Mark 6:5 110. The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6 The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation Matt 5:17-19 111. Christ's mission was peace Luke 2:13,14 Christ's mission was not peace Matt 10:34 112. Christ received not testimony from man John 5:33,34 Christ did receive testimony from man John 15:27 113. Christ's witness of himself is true. John 8:18,14 Christ's witness of himself is not true. John 5:31 114. Christ laid down his life for his friends John 15:13/ John 10:11 Christ laid down his life for his enemies Rom 5:10 115. It was lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death John 19:7 It was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death John 18:31 116. Children are punished for the sins of the parents Ex 20:5 Children are not punished for the sins of the parents Ezek 18:20 117. Man is justified by faith alone Rom 3:20/ Gal 2:16/ Gal 3:11,12/ Rom 4:2 Man is not justified by faith alone James 2:21,24/ Rom 2:13 118. It is impossible to fall from grace John 10:28/ Rom 8:38,39 It is possible to fall from grace Ezek 18:24/ Heb 6:4-6, 2 Pet 2:20,21 119. No man is without sin 1 Kings 8:46/ Prov 20:9/ Eccl 7:20/ Rom 3:10 Christians are sinless 1 John 3: 9,6,8 120. There is to be a resurrection of the dead 1 Cor 15:52/ Rev 20:12,13/ Luke 20:37/ 1 Cor 15:16 There is to be no resurrection of the dead Job 7:9/ Eccl 9:5/ Is 26:14 121. Reward and punishment to be bestowed in this world Prov 11:31 Reward and punishment to be bestowed in the next world Rev 20:12/ Matt 16:27/ 2 Cor 5:10 122. Annihilation the portion of all mankind Job 3: 11,13-17,19-22/ Eccl 9:5,10/ Eccl 3:19,20 Endless misery the portion of all mankind Matt 25:46/ Rev 20:10,15/ Rev 14:11/ Dan 12:2 123. The Earth is to be destroyed 2 Pet 3:10/ Heb 1:11/ Rev 20:11 The Earth is never to be destroyed Ps 104:5/ Eccl 1:4 124. No evil shall happen to the godly Prov 12:21/ 1 Pet 3:13 Evil does happen to the godly Heb 12:6/ Job 2:3,7 125. Worldly good and prosperity are the lot of the godly Prov 12:21/ Ps 37:28,32,33,37/ Ps 1:1,3/ Gen 39:2/ Job 42:12 Worldly misery and destitution the lot of the godly Heb 11:37,38/ Rev 7:14/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Luke 21:17 126. Worldly prosperity a reward of righteousness and a blessing Mark 10:29,30/ Ps 37:25/ Ps 112:1,3/ Job 22:23,24/ Prov 15:6 Worldly prosperity a curse and a bar to future reward Luke 6:20,24/ Matt 6:19,21/ Luke 16:22/ Matt 19:24/ Luke 6:24 127. The Christian yoke is easy Matt 11:28,29,30 The Christian yoke is not easy John 16:33/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Heb 12:6,8 128. The fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness Gal 5:22 The fruit of God's spirit is vengeance and fury Judg 15:14/ 1 Sam 18:10,11 129. Longevity enjoyed by the wicked Job 21:7,8/ Ps 17:14/ Eccl 8:12/ Is 65:20 Longevity denied to the wicked Eccl 8:13/ Ps 55:23/ Prov 10:27/ Job 36:14/ Eccl 7:17 130. Poverty a blessing Luke 6:20,24/ Jams 2:5 Riches a blessing Prov 10:15/ Job 22:23,24/ Job 42:12 Neither poverty nor riches a blessing Prov 30:8,9 131. Wisdom a source of enjoyment Prov 3:13,17 Wisdom a source of vexation, grief and sorrow Eccl 1:17,18 132. A good name is a blessing Eccl 7:1/ Prov 22:1 A good name is a curse Luke 6:26 133. Laughter commended Eccl 3:1,4/ Eccl 8:15 Laughter condemned Luke 6:25/ Eccl 7:3,4 134. The rod of correction a remedy for foolishness Prov 22:15 There is no remedy for foolishness Prov 27:22 135. A fool should be answered according to his folly Prov 26:5 A fool should not be answered according to his folly Prov 26:4 136. Temptation to be desired James 1:2 Temptation not to be desired Matt 6:13 137. Prophecy is sure 2 Pet 1:19 Prophecy is not sure Jer 18:7-10 138. Man's life was to be one hundred and twenty years Gen 6:3/ Ps 90:10 Man's life is but seventy years Ps 90:10 139. The fear of man was to be upon every beast Gen 9:2 The fear of man is not upon the lion Prov 30:30 140. Miracles a proof of divine mission Matt 11:2-5/ John 3:2/ Ex 14:31 Miracles not a proof of divine mission Ex 7:10-12/ Deut 13:1-3/ Luke 11:19 141. Moses was a very meek man Num 12:3 Moses was a very cruel man Num 31:15,17 142. Elijah went up to heaven 2 Kings 2:11 None but Christ ever ascended into heaven John 3:13 143. All scripture is inspired 2 Tim 3:16 Some scripture is not inspired 1 Cor 7:6/ 1 Cor 7:12/ 2 Cor 11:17
Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Matthew 10:34
... all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. - Matthew 26:52
For wrath killeth the foolish man... - Job 5:2
... let not the sun go down on your wrath. - Ephesians 4:26
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. - John 3:13
... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. - 2 Kings 2:11
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. - John 5:31
I am one that bear witness of myself... - John 8:18 [Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]
A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children... - Proverbs 13:22
Sell that ye have and give alms... - Luke 12:33
Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches shall be in his house... - Psalms 112:1-3
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. - Matthew 19:24
I and my father are one. - John 10:30
... I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. - John 14:28 [Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]
Thou shalt not kill - Exodus 20:13
Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side... and slay every man his brother... - Exodus 32:27
Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. - Exodus 20:8
The new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with: it is iniquity. - Isaiah 3:22
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven... earth... [or] water. - Leviticus 26:11
And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them. - Exodus 25:18
For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works. - Ephesians 2:8-9
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. - James 2:24
God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man, that he should repent. - Numbers 23:19
And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. - Exodus 32:14
... the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and come forth... - John 5:28-29
As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. - Job 7:9
... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. - Exodus 21:23-25
... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. - Matthew 5:39
Honor thy father and mother. - Exodus 20:12
If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. - Luke 14:26
Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth... - Matthew 6:19
In the house of the righteous is much treasure... - Proverbs 15:6
I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. - Genesis 32:30
No man hath seen God at any time. - John 1:18
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father. - Ezekiel 18:20
... I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. - Exodus 20:5
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. - Proverbs 3:13
For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. - Ecclesiastes 1:18
The Lord is good to all. - Psalm 145:6
I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things. - Isaiah 45:7
Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire. - Matthew 5:22
[Jesus said] Ye fools and blind. - Matthew 23:17
For all have sinned. - Romans 3:23
There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright. - Job 1:1
Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. - 2 Kings 8:26
Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. - 2 Chronicles 22:2
If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath... he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth. - Numbers 30:2
But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by earth. - Matthew 5:34-35 TenQ, advocatejare, shadeyinka, antiislam, fxmasterz, chibuezem, shamunn, mightysparrow, Righchannel,
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 4:58pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
jaephoenix: CHAPTER 3
... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever. - Jeremiah 3:12
Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever. - Jeremiah 17:4
... God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man. - James 1:13
And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham. - Genesis 22:1
And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good. - Genesis 1:31
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it grieved him at his heart - Genesis 6:6
For now have I chosen and sanctified this house that my name be there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually. - II Chronicles 7:16
Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands. - Acts 7:48
[God dwells] in the light which no man can approach unto. - I Timothy 6:16
The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
- I Kings 8:12
And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid. - Genesis 3:9,10
Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape. - John 5:37
Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel... They saw God, and did eat and drink. - Exodus 24: 9-11
Whom no man hath seen nor can see. - I Timothy 6:16
With God all things are possible. - Matthew 29:26
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 4:59pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
An all knowing god has no business with “available choices” that’s GAMBLING, an all knowing god knows EXACTLY the choice you’ll make.
Using your logic your god does not know what will happen tomorrow, he only knows what can possible happen, i can also do that.
Look up what omniscience means I already answered this. Your exact choice isn't abstract. It's as a result of your thoughts and what's filled in your heart. You can't make an exact choice of spending this evening drinking alcohol in the pub if u dont drink. So God knows your heart and knows what your next exact choice will be even without u making it. Now the question is do u know your exact choice for same time next year. Do u know EXACTLY if u would be debating with me this next time next year on Christian theology on nairaland. The answer is NO, You don't even know where u will be same time next year no matter your definition of exact choice. But GOD knows, WHY? because he's all knowing. All your future is already in his hands whether u turning left or right. That's the definition of all knowing. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 5:00pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
jaephoenix: CHAPTER 4
The Problem of the Bible (How the bible is literally full of errors in nearly every way possible.)
I. Which Bible?
A. Over 450 English versions of the bible
B. All are translated using different methods and from entirely different manuscripts
C. Thousands of manuscripts disagreeing with each other wildly in what verses and even books they contain, and how those verses read.
D. Different translations teach entirely different things in places, some often leaving out entire chapters and verses or containing footnotes warning of possible error due to uncertainty about the reliability of the numerous manuscripts.
II. Availability - current estimate is that 2,251 languages, representing 193 million people, lack a Bible translation
III. Historical and Geographical errors in the Bible
A. River Gihon could not possibly flow from Mesopotamia and encompass Ethiopia (Gen 2:13)
B. The name Babel does not come from the Hebrew word 'balbal' or 'confuse' but from the babylonian 'babili' or 'gate of God' which is a translation of the original Sumerian name Ka-dimirra. (Gen 11:9)
C. Ur was not a Chaldean city until 1000 years after Abraham (Gen 11:28, 15:7)
D. Abraham pursued enemies to 'Dan' (Gen 14:14). That name was not used geographically until after the conquest (Judge 18:29)
E. Gen 36:31, telling of Jacob and Esau, lists kings of Edom "before there reigned any king over the children of Israel." This must have been written hundreds of years later, after Israel had kings.
F. Joseph tells Pharaoh he comes from the "land of the Hebrews" (Gen 40:15). There was no such land until after the conquest under Joshua.
G. The Egyptian princess names the baby she finds "Moses" because she "drew him out" of the water (Heb meshethi). Why would she make a pun in Hebrew (Ex 2:10)?
H. No Egyptian record exists mentioning Moses or his devastation of Egypt.
I. Moses refers to "Palestine" (Ex 15:14). No such name was in use then.
J. Law of Moses is the "statutes of God and his laws" (Ex 18:26), but it closely mirrors the Code of Hammurabi, which was penned 1800 BC, hundreds of years before Moses.
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 5:02pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
My question is simple enough it’s you that’s complicating it.
Is man's nature a part of man, just as hands and feet are a part of man?
God made man and that same God is angry at what he made lol I think u need to do some readings on Christian theological definition of man. I sincerely don't know how to help u. Hands and feet are not nature of man as per Christian theology. There are people without hands and feet but are very much alive. They are part of his body not nature. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 5:03pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
[quote author=AntiChristian post=122680202][/quote] Stop spamming this thread with long mention. Pick a topic and invite whoever to discuss. Nobody has time for that long list. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 5:04pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
I already answered this. Your exact choice isn't abstract. It's as a result of your thoughts and what's filled in your heart. You can't make an exact choice of spending this evening drinking alcohol in the pub if u dont drink. So God knows your heart and knows what your next exact choice will be even without u making it. Now the question is do u know your exact choice for same time next year. Do u know EXACTLY if u would be debating with me this next time next year on Christian theology on nairaland. The answer is NO, You don't even know where u will be same time next year no matter your definition of exact choice. But GOD knows, WHY? because he's all knowing. All your future is already in his hands whether u turning left or right. That's the definition of all knowing. People that drink started one day. If god knows your exact choice before you made it how then do you have freewill? Now you are changing mouth, your god does not know possible choices now he knows your exact choice? How does your god know what I’ll be doing next year if I decided to change my thoughts this evening? How was he able to plan what will happen in the future? If all your future is in his hands that means you are a robot doing exactly what yahweh wants you to do. 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 5:05pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
I think u need to do some readings on Christian theological definition of man. I sincerely don't know how to help u. Hands and feet are not nature of man as per Christian theology. There are people without hands and feet but are very much alive. They are part of his body not nature. Why don’t you start to learn what THEO mean in theological and help yourself? Read what i said “ Is man's nature a part of man, just as hands and feet are a part of man?” I didn’t say hand and feet are man’s nature. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 5:07pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Maynman:
But god does not know if i will continue to disobey him or not? How does your god know the future if he does not even know the exact choice I’ll pick in the next 1 minute?
YOUR GOD DOES NOT KNOW THE EXACT CHOICE I WILL PICK, he only knows available choices. If he doesn’t know the exact choice I’ll pick, when i do it will suprise him. Your god does not know EVERYTHING. Your god is not all knowing. Let me make it real for u. GOD KNOWS THE EXACT CHOICE U WILL MAKE THIS SAME TIME NEXT YEAR IF U CHOOSE TO FOLLOW HIM. HE ALSO KNOWS THE EXACT CHOICE U WILL MAKE THIS SAME TIME NEXT YEAR IF U CONTINUE TO DISOBEY HIM THE CHOICE IS FOR YOUR SOUL TO MAKE. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by FxMasterz: 5:09pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:
TenQ, advocatejare, shadeyinka, antiislam, fxmasterz, chibuezem, shamunn, mightysparrow, Righchannel, Read the answers that others have provided. Or better still, read the Bible for yourself to see the answers. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 5:10pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
SIRTee15:
Let me make it real for u. GOD KNOWS THE EXACT CHOICE U WILL MAKE THIS SAME TIME NEXT YEAR IF U CHOOSE TO FOLLOW HIM. HE ALSO KNOWS THE EXACT CHOICE U WILL MAKE THIS SAME TIME NEXT YEAR IF U CONTINUE TO DISOBEY HIM THE CHOICE IS FOR YOUR SOUL TO MAKE. Your god does not know IF i will follow him or not. Your god does not know everything. your god does not know the choice you’ll make between obeying him or not? Since your god does not know if I’ll follow him or not how then does he know my exact choice this time next year? You are contradicting yourself. 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by AntiChristian: 5:10pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
We're not like you who always need lies and even more lies to defend the Quran. Anyone who reads the Bible would already see that the contents of the OP is a very poor attempt to make none contextual sentences appear as gafes. Thankfully, knowledgeable Christians who have graced this page have suplied the needed answers.
The major difference here is that in your own case, you become so shockingly embarrassed that you cannot provide any single answer to the issues raised in your Quran. In most cases you run and pretend as though the thread never happened.
Keep deceiving yourselves. Your job is to defend Islam at all cost even with its obvious lies. The end will tell. Attack the post not me! Let's see the holly spirit in you! |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by FxMasterz: 5:17pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:
Attack the post not me! Let's see the holly spirit in you! I was not mentioned by the OP was I? Read the answers to the post oh lover of lies. Hater of truth. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Chibuezem(m): 5:23pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
Read the answers that others have provided. Or better still, read the Bible for yourself to see the answers. what's your own opinion Sir? God has always had the gentiles at heart in his plan of salvation, however there must be a starting point that is why He chose isreal, who became the children of God physically through circumcision as a Fulfillment of Gods promise to Abraham. The plan was that Isreal as a nation of God on earth will show other nations how to worship God hence their selection (election) to interprete God (Jehovah) to the gentiles but they disobeyed. God made flesh whom is Jesus Christ came down on earth in isreal to which He was rejected and even killed. On His death the cloth separating the people from the Holy of holies was torn a significance that everyone (jew and gentile) can enter the presence of God but on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by FxMasterz: 5:27pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Chibuezem: what's your own opinion Sir? God has always had the gentiles at heart in his plan of salvation, however there must be a starting point that is why He chose isreal, who became the children of God physically through circumcision as a Fulfillment of Gods promise to Abraham. The plan was that Isreal as a nation of God on earth will show other nations how to worship God hence their selection (election) to interprete God (Jehovah) to the gentiles but they disobeyed. God made flesh whom is Jesus Christ came down on earth in isreal to which He was rejected and even killed. On His death the cloth separating the people from the Holy of holies was torn a significance that everyone (jew and gentile) can enter the presence of God but on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Perfectly said. What you've posted up there is Genesis to Revelation in few sentences |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Chibuezem(m): 5:30pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
Perfectly said.
What you've posted up there is Genesis to Revelation in few sentences I feel like hugging you Sir.... Peace be unto you 1 Like |