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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 4:09pm On May 28, 2023 |
aumeehn: I replied the guy probably yesterday or early today, Find the post and understand my points. I don't need to repeat myself. Time would reveal all. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 7:01pm On May 28, 2023 |
Tiopii: i am asking you for proofs and you are telling me that you have replied the guy, whic guy? This is my initial question stop dodging and come forward with facts or forever remain silent and continue rambling and posting nonsense on the forum feeling fly. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 7:03pm On May 28, 2023 |
Tiopii:Then Russia Attacked Ukraine how does it concern Nato? Oh i guess they only have the monopoly of attacking and invading other sovereign states! Hypocrisy at its peak! 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 7:07pm On May 28, 2023 |
Tiopii:lol US dont want war but keep on pumping weapons into Ukr. Let the US attack Russia directly and stop the proxy war now since they have the best military both in terms of manpower and equipment. They didn't wage a proxy war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Let us hear word abeg! Since Russia is fighting with shovels and prisoners what is stopping Nato from invading Russia and toppling Putin regime? 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 7:16pm On May 28, 2023 |
Tiopii:Lol MQ Reaper drone cost less than 100k i am sorry to say that this will be the last time i will quote you! I am sorry to say that you are a dumbo! 1 Like
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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 7:31pm On May 28, 2023 |
Tiopii:Russia occupied Donbass before the war? This is the height of ignorance. Bhakmut Slovyansk Kramatorsk Lyman are all part of Donbass dumbo! This guy dont even know anything but come here and be spilling trash! Go and educate yourself and stop embarrassing yourself on a public Forum! When Did Russia occupied Donbass before march 2022? 2014 i guess! Let me Educate you a little Lugansk and Donetsk comprises of Donbass. Russia is protecting Crimea by Occupying Kherson and Zaporozhia and will cut off the Ukr access to the Sea by taking Odessa. I hope you learned something today. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:45pm On May 28, 2023 |
aumeehn: I already gave up on that guy when I found out that he was not here to prove any point but to say any thing that comes to his mind lol. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:48pm On May 28, 2023 |
aumeehn: The other Twitter map I post confused him Russia was controlling a section of donbas area but did not fully capture it before the war so western media claimed Russia captured it before the special military operation. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 7:57am On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: I'm not defending US atrocities, but using the US atrocities to justify Russia's astrocities is peak comedy. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 8:00am On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: Error with the cost, even if it's worth $10M, it's still a fair deal for the US. After NATO weapons killed thousands of Russia's troops, if destroying a $10M defenseless spy drone in the retaliation, it's not bad. But Fighter jets went on patrol they have never attacked it.(Russia didn't even shoot it, them dumped fuel and clashed with it) to seem like an accident. Every nation is scared of US. Remember the time the US killed an Iran General I think and Iran shot am empty US centre or so. Everything I said only the price was wrong. no vexππππππππππππ. You're very emotional ππππππ |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 8:09am On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: US is the biggest supplier of weapons, as long as it's profitable, the US would indulge. As the US is refusing to attack Russia directly, let Russia take the war to them na Leave the US and focus on Russia and Ukraine. how's the war going? The US don't need to invade Russia, weaken Russia, Yes but an all out conflict there is no need. Since according to you, US is fighting proxy war, let Russia fight Thier own |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by olugabbie(m): 8:14am On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii: Most of them don't even know that the Russians don't talk about their moves. They only talk about their goals and objectives. The Russian winter offensive was all over the Western media. It was just a prediction by some so called Western analysts on almost all the Western media. They talked about Russia wanted to take Bakhmut before Russian victory day. This is another prediction. They often predict Russian next move and most of the time they get them wrong. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:12am On May 29, 2023 |
olugabbie: Even western fans have understood it all hype No one reveals war plans since history apart from Ukraine lol It comedy no offensive is coming. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Brek: 10:15am On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii: Finally some one who gets it |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 11:43am On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:while pointing fingers at Russia by the US is hypocrisy at its peak! 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 11:50am On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:lol! But all out war in Yugoslavia and Libya is needed right? I will also throw the ball back into your court since Russia are weak, they hire mercenaries, convicts and fight with sticks and shovel what is stopping the whole 32 Nato nations from invading Russia and take back Ukr lands? What's stopping them? Let them also take the war to Russia. Lol At the Bolded! Then why is the US rambling about Iran supplying drones to Russia and and Russia deploying Nukes in Belarus? I guess "Rules based order" or Unipolar World hehehe. They only have the monopoly of supplying weapons to other Nations. 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 11:54am On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:the thing is you are not even well informed. You saw the Cost of MQ9 reaper at 30m and you are still saying a drone not up to 10m. Let them also kill a Russian General not Iranian General, let them fight their mates. And please stop dodging my earlier questions about proofs of the s0 called Russian repressive laws, proofs and current Maps of Kharkiv and Kherson. I asked you 4 good questions but this is the only one you deem fit to answer. Enough of the banter lets talk facts. I will quote you again. Mr I will be waiting for proofs not just banter and beer palor argument 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 12:07pm On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: Okay, let's say it even $50M. Even if I show your proofs you'd still defend Russia, I could post the map again but I already did. I don't want to argue over this Russia/Ukraine war and rather wait for the outcome and conclusion of the war. I might later change my mind and re reply your questions |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by coke75: 12:13pm On May 29, 2023 |
There no hypocrisy on part of the US, it's just that the complexities of justifying the use of military force are beyond you. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by coke75: 12:15pm On May 29, 2023 |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 12:19pm On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: You leave the bane of the matter and focus on the USππππππππ. NATO is a defensive alliance, you attack them, them respond. simple. since it's NATO that's scared of Russia, let Russia attack any NATO territory na. we want to act like we don't know the reason Putin started the war was prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. simple fact like this should tell you who is scared of who. You can argue all you like, but talk on how the war between Russia and Ukraine is going and leave out the US. alot of other nations are supplying weapons, e be like e get wetin US do your family ππππππππππ US this, US that, Instead of you to join up with those private mercenaries in Russia and go and fight in Ukraine for Russia and join in destroying NATO weapons ππππ In time, soon , you'd realize that it is the US that's holding back and not Russia. Thanks to Ukraine, we already know how Russia military operate and even Russia's most prized Hypersonic isn't sonic-ing anymore. When you realize the fate of post war Russia, you'd understand why US is the hegemony. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 12:20pm On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:lol you have nothing to show. Proofs i have been waiting for since yesterday. Russia repressive laws Kherson and Kharkiv Maps Evidence of Russia winter offensive that was stalled in Bhakmut Proofs of Russian occupation of Donbass before March 2022. You can't be going round the forum singing Ukr recaptured Kharkiv and Kherson and also Russian winter offensive that was stalled in Bhakmut without proofs. So you just sit down and manufacture stories and start arguing with people without facts. give us Facts!! Not mere hearsay 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 12:24pm On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: You can say that, but the war in Ukraine, Russia is wrong. if Russia has issues with the US let them settle it out and leave sovereign Ukraine out of it. As the long continues, The US would endear themselves into the heart of Ukrainians for aiding them Economically and militarily while Russia would forever be seen as the aggressor, Ukraine would only get stronger as long as the West keeps bankrolling it. The Frozen Russia funds all over Europe would be used for the restoration of Ukraine. Let's see how what war would go on to become. |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 12:26pm On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:lol the UK also advertised a Job recruiting Mercenaries from Africa what stopping you from joining them? Lol Hypersonic missilem shot down without detonating with a just a hole! Hahahahha you are a comdian show me proof of of Hypersonic dagger getting downed. If dem Nato Well let them Attack Russia the way they attacked Libya despite the fact that the What Putin did is million miles ahead of what Gaddafi did. Bunch 0f confused Homosexuals. Why didn't you answer me about the US rambling about Iran supplying drones and Russia deployment of Nukes in Belarus. next stop the Nukes will going to Iran then Venezuela and Nicaragua. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by aumeehn: 12:33pm On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii:oh! But US invasion and destabilisation of Afghanistan for 20 years is okay abi. The Murder of Gaddafi is also justified right? The West that is US in particular is bankrolling Ukr and curbs inflation by just printing $$. Thats what the New Development Bank spearhead by China and Russia will checkmate, no more freezing of Assets and the use of the dollar. Everyone will amswer his fathers name. Countries will start trading in their own national currencies. Nigeria will start selling crude and Agri products in Naira How beautiful, the Naira and the Nigerian economy will be prosperous because Naira will be in demand especially for those buying crude and refined petroleum products. Let them continue printing their paper. The era of subjugation is over. De dollarization is upon us. In th3 Next 10 years the $$ will just be like the Japanese Yen |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 1:05pm On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: The same way the US was wrong in Iraq, Libya and other places is how Russia is wrong in Ukraine. simple whether the US is printing $$ shouldn't be your concern and how the choose to spend the money. De dollarization is just an online sensation, but you don't have to believe. Nations can decide to trade with their currency, nice idea, but it won't affect the place of dollars as long as the US has the biggest economy and is supported by the G7. Even if dollar falls, it'd never come down to the level of Yuan or ruble. The Frozen assets is already gone, Russia can hustle for another and keep in China/Asia. Funny you think the economy of China and Russia and some regional economies would outplay the US/West Economy. China needs the West more than the West needs China, and Russia needs China more than China needs Russia. China would also act in self interest, same reason they are not providing any military aid to Russia, they won't be sanctioned for Russia's crimes and I hope you know China is abiding by the West sanctions on Russia. Next 50 years, Dollars would still be relevant |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 1:18pm On May 29, 2023 |
aumeehn: Russia also recruiting join them first na. And where in Africa are they recruiting? Let Russia attack NATO, despite what the US has done is million miles ahead of what Putin is doing. Iran is already under sanctions, and the US wants to weaken Russias war efforts and ability. US made their position very clear and Iran picked a side. The deployment of nukes in Belarus doesn't affect the US, Russia/Belarus would never ever send nukes towards the US and those nukes are for show and Russia still controls them. The US is simply against nuclear weapons proliferation for a safer Earth. we need less Nuclear weapons in the World. Ukraine said Patriotic intercepted hypersonic, arguing here doesn't change the fact, Ukraine don't need any reason to lie, and by now it should be obvious the West is studying Russia weapons and creating strategy to curb their weapon threats. Except you think Russia still possess weapons they are yet to use. If Russia like they should send Nuclear weapons to S. Africa, Iran, Iraq, Libya etc. Just focus on the Russia/Ukraine war and leave the US. Russia has defeated Ukraine, it's the US they looking atπ As if only Russia posses Nuclear weapons |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 1:20pm On May 29, 2023 |
olugabbie: One question, Did Russia go on the offensive last winter, Yes or No? |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 5:30pm On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii: Russia is protecting her people in the donbass region |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 5:31pm On May 29, 2023 |
Tiopii: I doubt you even know the meaning of multipolar world order. You're a waste of my time. Have a nice time |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 6:18pm On May 29, 2023 |
Adjovi: In Ukraine's territory? same people they were protecting when they invaded Georgia, Moldova and now Ukraine. Russia can do no wrong in your eyes, it's understandable |
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 6:20pm On May 29, 2023 |
Adjovi: πππππππ€£ππ Russia should allow Ukraine forge ties with whoever they want, if Russia really wants a multipolar world abeg.. |
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