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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 3:23pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



You are finding it hard to believe this is all Russia has to offer in this warπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Aleppo isn't Ukraine, Ukraine is Aleppo. Ukraine has better weapon systems and better leadership. Russia tried the carpet bombing everywhere, but Air Defenses and bunkers has reduced the effects. And the West is bankrolling them.

Russia has started in Ukraine, It's the West/US that hasn't started yet. when they get serious we would all know.

I don't want to talk bout the effect of the war on Russia's economy and influence, in the medium/long term we would witness it ourselves.

Just keep following the war, and stop believing that only the Russia MOD is telling the correct events. in time all would unfold

They there dey deceive yourself grin grin grin grin grin. When Russia starts you go know. As for NATO let them send their f16 grin grin small s300 will deal with it grin grin Russia has not even used carpet bombs in Ukraine not even once. All they have used are incendiary ammunitions and they don't do the same work.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:28pm On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:


Honestly Ukraine is winning o. I just heard Ukrainian forces have entered Russia and seized the Kremlin and even taken back Crimea. These Ukrainian forces strike with lightning speed mehn.

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ nice one.. the war is ongoing na. no rush boss
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:30pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:

They there dey deceive yourself grin grin grin grin grin. When Russia starts you go know. As for NATO let them send their f16 grin grin small s300 will deal with it grin grin Russia has not even used carpet bombs in Ukraine not even once. All they have used are incendiary ammunitions and they don't do the same work.


I don't want to engage much. Let's keep following the war na. Russia would need s500 soon Sha.

Same Russia Drone flew into and got to Moscow then the Kremlin. ordinary drone.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Ukraine is still doing testing
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 3:33pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



Yes na. Old US tech and in over a year, Russia can't capture Ukraine a country of about 40Million people. Ukraine's successful counter offensive that saw them reclaim Kherson and Kharkiv, they had little NATO weapons, now they have a significant portion, Just relax and witness the offensive.

Maybe you should join mercenaries on the side of Russia, so you can assist Russia in destroying them naπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. maybe you think say na Call of Duty

What will Russia do with Ukraine if it captures it? Ukraine has nothing to offer Russia. What Russia is after are the donbass region. SEBI Ukraine has been given the latest weapons now shey? And they said they would take cremia? No wahala let's see what they can do with it grin grin grin.

Russia is losing and has taken a large chunk of Ukraine? What a way of losing and yet the one that is said to be winning has been going all over the world to beg for weapons cheesy grin grin grin. Russia does not need me. Na Ukraine they kidnap their young Men and dragging them to the war front. There's a topic on nairaland where it says you can sign up for combat in Ukraine by the UK and you'll be handsomely paid and UK citizenship will be guaranteed. So you can sign up and go help Ukraine because they really need more meat for the Bakmut near grinder cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 3:38pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



I don't want to engage much. Let's keep following the war na. Russia would need s500 soon Sha.

Same Russia Drone flew into and got to Moscow then the Kremlin. ordinary drone.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Ukraine is still doing testing


The same drone that was destroyed by electronic war fare grin grin grin grin. Forget it Russia no be anybody mate for NATO... You can't engage much in it because I'm telling you the fact. Russia has not used carpet bombs in Ukraine. Ukraine is too small for Russia to be using American coward warfare techniques on. It's coward USA that will first use carpet bombs and missiles To destroy 80 % of their enemies infrastructure and soldiers then they will now send in their troops to do mop up and will now be forming boss grin grin grin grin... Russia didn't do that because there's a goal and it is to demilitarise Ukraine and so far it's working perfectly.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 3:44pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



As Russia has intervened, Ukraine also called the US, as everybody's big brother. God no send Putin or Russia. They are responsible for the deaths in Ukraine. And Ukraine's counter offensive to begin soon.

I'm supporting Ukraine.


No wahala we shall see wetin big brother go do as dem don beat him brother (wotowoto)...... If Russia is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine, who's responsible for the killings of the people in the donbass region since 2014 till before Russia invaded?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:47pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:


What will Russia do with Ukraine if it captures it? Ukraine has nothing to offer Russia. What Russia is after are the donbass region. SEBI Ukraine has been given the latest weapons now shey? And they said they would take cremia? No wahala let's see what they can do with it grin grin grin.

Russia is losing and has taken a large chunk of Ukraine? What a way of losing and yet the one that is said to be winning has been going all over the world to beg for weapons cheesy grin grin grin. Russia does not need me. Na Ukraine they kidnap their young Men and dragging them to the war front. There's a topic on nairaland where it says you can sign up for combat in Ukraine by the UK and you'll be handsomely paid and UK citizenship will be guaranteed. So you can sign up and go help Ukraine because they really need more meat for the Bakmut near grinder cheesy cheesy cheesy grin


They want the Donbas region and it took over 7 months to get BakmutπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. NATO isn't giving Ukraine its latest weapons just an upgrade on the Soviet era weapons.

When Russia invaded they occupied bout 25% of Ukraine, now they occupy about 16% after just one successful counter offensive and another one is coming up. Ukraine

Russia too are begging for weapons too, North Korea, those central Asian countries and even most recently South Africa, even spoke with Egypt until the US intervened and those weapons are now going to Ukraine. Even China their allegedly biggest ally has said they won't be providing weapons.

Even Russia too are dragging their sons and daughters to the war front, there are videos of resistance on both sides for the mobilization. Russia is offering fast track citizenship for foreigners who agree to fight in Ukraine for a year.

so you believe the UK would give out their citizenship for fighting in Ukraine?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ be like you no dey think sha. you're accusing Ukraine for the same thing Russia is doingπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. OmoπŸ˜‚.

Same Russia that tried to overrun Kyiv but they pursue themπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. You suppose be comedian oloun
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 3:53pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



They want the Donbas region and it took over 7 months to get BakmutπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. NATO isn't giving Ukraine its latest weapons just an upgrade on the Soviet era weapons.

When Russia invaded they occupied bout 25% of Ukraine, now they occupy about 16% after just one successful counter offensive and another one is coming up. Ukraine

Russia too are begging for weapons too, North Korea, those central Asian countries and even most recently South Africa, even spoke with Egypt until the US intervened and those weapons are now going to Ukraine. Even China their allegedly biggest ally has said they won't be providing weapons.

Even Russia too are dragging their sons and daughters to the war front, there are videos of resistance on both sides for the mobilization. Russia is offering fast track citizenship for foreigners who agree to fight in Ukraine for a year.

so you believe the UK would give out their citizenship for fighting in Ukraine?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ be like you no dey think sha. you're accusing Ukraine for the same thing Russia is doingπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. OmoπŸ˜‚.

Same Russia that tried to overrun Kyiv but they pursue themπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. You suppose be comedian oloun


I don hear you grin grin grin grin I'll allow you wallow in your allusion. No wahala SEBI Ukraine is winning Abbi? Oya na make we dey watch. Sebi according to you Ukraine now has modern weapons to go on the counter offensive?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:56pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:



No wahala we shall see wetin big brother go do as dem don beat him brother (wotowoto)...... If Russia is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine, who's responsible for the killings of the people in the donbass region since 2014 till before Russia invaded?


Russia is still responsible, After the Euromaiden it's no news that it was Russia backed separatists that started the war in the Donbas region. Russia armed those terrorists there and are not shy about it. Russia said they would grant them independence, after the independence Russia has made legislation to absorb them into Russia. Russia isn't very smart and not everyone is gullible.

The reason Putin started the war in Ukraine was cos the UA was already winning, if the Russia backed terrorists had chances of succeeding in Ukraine, there would be no need for Russia to attack Ukraine. And even now they are working together.

Abi you think those theorists in Donbas don't have sponsors?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 4:02pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



Russia is still responsible, After the Euromaiden it's no news that it was Russia backed separatists that started the war in the Donbas region. Russia armed those terrorists there and are not shy about it. Russia said they would grant them independence, after the independence Russia has made legislation to absorb them into Russia. Russia isn't very smart and not everyone is gullible.

The reason Putin started the war in Ukraine was cos the UA was already winning, if the Russia backed terrorists had chances of succeeding in Ukraine, there would be no need for Russia to attack Ukraine. And even now they are working together.

Abi you think those theorists in Donbas don't have sponsors?


So according to your analysis it's safe to say NATO USA is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine then, since they have been preparing and arming Ukraine for this war since grin grin grin grin. Oya change mouth again grin grin grin grin and even told Ukraine to throw all peace deals out the window grin
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 4:16pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:


So according to your analysis it's safe to say NATO USA is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine then, since they have been preparing and arming Ukraine for this war since grin grin grin grin. Oya change mouth again grin grin grin grin and even told Ukraine to throw all peace deals out the window grin


Be like US is your biggest nightmare, not once did I mention the US or NATO in my reply.

Do you have proofs that the US has been training and arming Ukraine prior to the invasion??

And you want to fault Ukraine for learning to defend themselves? All the NATO training started after the invasion.

Any proof the US told Ukraine to throw out the peace deal?? Even Putin said the only way to achieve their goal is Ukraine is through military action. Russia wasn't interested in any peace deal themselves esp as Ukraine refused to cede the Donbas to them.

Russia is responsible for the killing in Donbas, fight through funding terrorists and now invading a sovereign nation. Russia attacked Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't a threat to Russia that was why they were so confident in their ability but so far failed
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 4:18pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



Be like US is your biggest nightmare, not once did I mention the US or NATO in my reply.

Do you have proofs that the US has been training and arming Ukraine prior to the invasion??

And you want to fault Ukraine for learning to defend themselves? All the NATO training started after the invasion.

Any proof the US told Ukraine to throw out the peace deal?? Even Putin said the only way to achieve their goal is Ukraine is through military action. Russia wasn't interested in any peace deal themselves esp as Ukraine refused to cede the Donbas to them.

Russia is responsible for the killing in Donbas, fight through funding terrorists and now invading a sovereign nation. Russia attacked Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't a threat to Russia that was why they were so confident in their ability but so far failed


You said Russia is responsible for the killings in the donbass because they gave them weapons and I'm using your analogy too by saying the USA according to your analogy is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine too grin grin
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 4:27pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:



You said Russia is responsible for the killings in the donbass because they gave them weapons and I'm using your analogy too by saying the USA according to your analogy is responsible for the deaths in Ukraine too grin grin

Russia didn't just give weapons, even Their army were involved, you think civilians would master those weapons systems in days?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

if the US troops were actively participating in the war, The US too would be responsible

The US didn't start the war in Ukraine, Russia did.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:20pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:


Okay. But Ukraine is winning sha
yes in cnn and your memory lol.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 9:57pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:


Russia didn't just give weapons, even Their army were involved, you think civilians would master those weapons systems in days?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

if the US troops were actively participating in the war, The US too would be responsible



The USA marines that have been killed nko? They were there to play ludo Abbi

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 10:43pm On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:



The USA marines that have been killed nko? They were there to play ludo Abbi


proof pls?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 10:44pm On May 24, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
yes in cnn and your memory lol.


We would all witness it. calm your tits
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:50pm On May 24, 2023
Tiopii:



We would all witness it. calm your tits
winter offensive lol winter has passed now approaching summer right lol next is Christmas offensive lol

Four regions gone it not coming back.

So keep waiting lol.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 10:15am On May 25, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
winter offensive lol winter has passed now approaching summer right lol next is Christmas offensive lol

Four regions gone it not coming back.

So keep waiting lol.


Na Russia do winter offensive na. Fortunately for Ukraine winter was short and they got air defences for their critical infrastructures. And their winter offensive if over 7 months stopped at Bakmut.

What four regions? Ukraine took back Kharkiv and Kherson. you can count again.


Keep calm Ukraine counter offensive is coming.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 10:25am On May 25, 2023
paramakina202:
Ukraine best NATO trained soldiers wasted in the battle to defend Bahkmut.
Congrats to Oga Putin.

The NATO trained soldiers are not in Bakmut, they are still training and preparing for counter offensive.

The regular soldiers are the ones defending Bakmut.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:25am On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



Na Russia do winter offensive na. Fortunately for Ukraine winter was short and they got air defences for their critical infrastructures. And their winter offensive if over 7 months stopped at Bakmut.

What four regions? Ukraine took back Kharkiv and Kherson. you can count again.


Keep calm Ukraine counter offensive is coming.

go to Google and check map only

Look at the blue places ad small as it is that Kharkiv west and

Kherson west small thing that within few years of bombing Ukraine will run from there to make for the border of the four regions lol


The red places is 28%
.of Ukraine not including Crimea lol

lol that is a big plot of land

Lol

Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 10:28am On May 25, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
go to Google and check map only
t
Look at the blue places ad small as it is that Kharkiv west and

Kherson west small thing that within few years of bombing Ukraine will run from there to make for the border of the four regions lol


The red places is 28%
.of Ukraine lol that is a big plot of land

Lol


Your map na February 25th, rest.

If you remove Crimea that Russia annexed since 2014 and the Donbas region that has been contested since 2014 too. what percentage of land has the Russian army occupied since they started this war? Even the territories in red, Russia don't fully control them..

Your reason weak like Russia's winter offensive
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:29am On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



Your map na February 25th, rest.
pipe dream that currently map just now lol Google to see lol.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:30am On May 25, 2023
This guys are in pains check map lol.

Twitter map lol blue places taken before the war started.

Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by paramakina202: 10:59am On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:


The NATO trained soldiers are not in Bakmut, they are still training and preparing for counter offensive.

The regular soldiers are the ones defending Bakmut.


You don't know what you are talking about.Nato have been training Ukraine soldiers even before Russia invaded their country.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:15pm On May 25, 2023
paramakina202:


You don't know what you are talking about.Nato have been training Ukraine soldiers even before Russia invaded their country.

proof?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 3:24pm On May 25, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
go to Google and check map only

Look at the blue places ad small as it is that Kharkiv west and

Kherson west small thing that within few years of bombing Ukraine will run from there to make for the border of the four regions lol


The red places is 28%
.of Ukraine not including Crimea lol

lol that is a big plot of land

Lol


What's the biggest territory Russia has captured so far?
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:36pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



What's the biggest territory Russia has captured so far?
check the map

Putin already said he wants all donbas all four regions and it just remains the two west sides that all even if he refuses to take in more the purpose is achieved which is to destroy nato and deprive them from taking Ukraine as long as there is land dispute nato can't come in lol go read nato laws.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 5:04pm On May 25, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
check the map

Putin already said he wants all donbas all four regions and it just remains the two west sides that all even if he refuses to take in more the purpose is achieved which is to destroy nato and deprive them from taking Ukraine as long as there is land dispute nato can't come in lol go read nato laws.


what percentage of the Donbas don he control? and how long has he been trying to capture them?

If you think Russia is stalling in Ukraine cos they can afford to stall, I don't have any word for you. just allow the war play out. There's no point arguing what would reveal itself soon

And if you think the Russia/Ukraine war has made NATO weaker or believe that the BRICS is a threat to the G7 we shouldn't be arguing.

Just watch how the war unfolds.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 5:08pm On May 25, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
pipe dream that currently map just now lol Google to see lol.

Show us map showing how much territory Russia has lost since Ukraine last successful counter offensive, since you have maps

Ukraine reclaimed significant portions Russia troops once occupied. slowly but surely.

Russia has done Thier own winter counter offensive and for over 9 months could only claim capture Bakmut, and the main assault units pulled out cos of high losses and shell hunger. The can't go beyond Bakmut, they have peaked. Ukraine is still getting ready with NATO offensive, Russia is now building defensive fortification on the territories they occupy.

You just don't want to accept reality and would rather deny.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 6:48pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:


Show us map showing how much territory Russia has lost since Ukraine last successful counter offensive, since you have maps

Ukraine reclaimed significant portions Russia troops once occupied. slowly but surely.

Russia has done Thier own winter counter offensive and for over 9 months could only claim capture Bakmut, and the main assault units pulled out cos of high losses and shell hunger. The can't go beyond Bakmut, they have peaked. Ukraine is still getting ready with NATO offensive, Russia is now building defensive fortification on the territories they occupy.

You just don't want to accept reality and would rather deny.
don't worry I know you are angry that why you can't read the map lol.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by paramakina202: 7:36pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:


proof?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRy6QXQe9j8

This video is 7 years ago.

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