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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:29am On Jun 21, 2023
hedonido:
Nigerians are funny. In this country, any office is as powerful as the president wants the holder of that office to be.

Tunde Sabiu was just a personal assistant to Buhari, but he was more powerful than the Vice President, Senate President, NSA, and service chiefs combined.

Just as Obasanjo's Senior Special Assistant on Domestic Matters (Andy Uba) was the most powerful in his government.

Considering how much Ribadu seems to have ingratiated and enmeshed himself into this BAT's sinister inner caucus, of course he would likely be more powerful than all the service chiefs combined. Not necessarily because he is the NSA, but because HE is the NSA.

Remember the massive difference between Abba Kyari as Chief of Staff and the Kwara diplomat Gambari as Chief of Staff. It's never about the office, but always about the person occupying the office.

Total Nonsense!
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Khyrvxjzy: 11:31am On Jun 21, 2023
Enemyofpeace:
It's a very big and powerful position o, even bigger than that of the President

una go just open mouth talk waaaa
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:31am On Jun 21, 2023
DaveHarry:

why do u think Tunde sabiu was that powerful

He read it in some make-I-chop online news site, believed it and thought if he regurgutates it, he will look like Einstein.

Absolute moooronic nonsense!
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by AlphaWolf27: 11:32am On Jun 21, 2023
drugBaronTINUBU:

The National Security Adviser is a senior official in the cabinet of the President of Nigeria who manages national security on behalf of the President and serves as his chief advisor on all matters that are vital to the very survival of the state. The position is a statutory member of the Presidency, National Security Council and Federal Executive Council

Biggest Tinubu mistakes
The Nigeria military are only loyal to the constitution and to themselves and Tinubu have already created a bad blood by telling them to answer to a common police officer.
Ribadu is just a common police officer
If a coup happens today, he wont be able to stop it

What do you mean by "common police officer". Perhaps you can enlighten us on what an uncommon police officer is then. Get some more knowledge on this subject before commenting please.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 11:32am On Jun 21, 2023
AlphaWolf27:
I don't understand the fuzz about NSA. Service chiefs are only answerable to the C-I-C. NSA office is in advisory capacity to the President with no executive powers. Thats why there is no senate confirmation required for that office. He / She only provides advice on National Security concerns whenever certain executive decisions are being considered. It can be likened to having a legal adviser.
This is not true. He has executive power. You can't import any arms or arms protector like bulletproof vest or car into the country without his approval. Most drones importation except for basic ones that kids play with needs an approval from his office.
DSS would not have gotten Kanu without the NSA as he gives the NIA approval for such operations.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by AlphaWolf27: 11:34am On Jun 21, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:

This is not true. He has executive power. You can't import any arms or arms protector like bulletproof vest or car into the country without his approval. Most drones importation except for basic ones that kids play with needs an approval from his office.
DSS would not have gotten Kanu without the NSA as he gives the NIA approval for such operations.

Lol. Oga. That's not the definition of executive powers. Any government department can make procurements. Please check what executive powers are.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by tishbite42: 11:35am On Jun 21, 2023
hedonido:
Nigerians are funny. In this country, any office is as powerful as the president wants the holder of that office to be.

Tunde Sabiu was just a personal assistant to Buhari, but he was more powerful than the Vice President, Senate President, NSA, and service chiefs combined.

Just as Obasanjo's Senior Special Assistant on Domestic Matters (Andy Uba) was the most powerful in his government.

Considering how much Ribadu seems to have ingratiated and enmeshed himself into this BAT's sinister inner caucus, of course he would likely be more powerful than all the service chiefs combined. Not necessarily because he is the NSA, but because HE is the NSA.

Remember the massive difference between Abba Kyari as Chief of Staff and the Kwara diplomat Gambari as Chief of Staff. It's never about the office, but always about the person occupying the office.
You really know politics
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:36am On Jun 21, 2023
josilcool:
Which one supersede between Minister of defense and National security adviser..?

Same level.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by otosa(m): 11:37am On Jun 21, 2023
Natural2Heal:
The service chiefs are more bigger than NSA.
who told you that. And who is the service chief is going to report to?
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:38am On Jun 21, 2023
Mubby4luv:

Tunde Sabiu was just as powerful as the COS, Man knows his onions. Anyway I try explain to you wouldn't match. Sha he had his time. we will get to see who will be the next villa's headboy. I'm thinking Non other than the president's son himself.

You really think you are in your motor park beer parlour.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by flejnr2(f): 11:38am On Jun 21, 2023
AK481:


If he is doing all this one , What of cds ?
The chief of defense staff is the head of the military unit of the security he has nothing to do with the police, custom, immigration and others and he also reports to the NSA of the day to day running of the military

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:39am On Jun 21, 2023
AlphaWolf27:
I don't understand the fuzz about NSA. Service chiefs are only answerable to the C-I-C. NSA office is in advisory capacity to the President with no executive powers. Thats why there is no senate confirmation required for that office. He / She only provides advice on National Security concerns whenever certain executive decisions are being considered. It can be likened to having a legal adviser.

Is there need for Senate confirmation for any of the Service chiefs?

So, what point have you made then?
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 11:40am On Jun 21, 2023
AlphaWolf27:


Lol. Oga. That's not the definition of executive powers. Any government department can make procurements. Please check what executive powers are.
No govt department in Nigeria can procure arms without his approval. Kindly check the duties of the office. He gives final approval on all security gadgets.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Neoteny7: 11:40am On Jun 21, 2023
helinues:
NSA? They are they one who coordinated the Osama attack with President Obama watching the live feed in USA.

President Trump sacked John Bolton as Usa NSA cos he could have led USA to unnecessary war as a war monger.

NSA na very big position. Security mainly

Er, nope.

JSOC planned the Osama raid. The DEVGRU leadership planned the intimate details down to the very last.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by searchlight: 11:40am On Jun 21, 2023
hedonido:
Nigerians are funny. In this country, any office is as powerful as the president wants the holder of that office to be.

Tunde Sabiu was just a personal assistant to Buhari, but he was more powerful than the Vice President, Senate President, NSA, and service chiefs combined.

Just as Obasanjo's Senior Special Assistant on Domestic Matters (Andy Uba) was the most powerful in his government.

Considering how much Ribadu seems to have ingratiated and enmeshed himself into this BAT's sinister inner caucus, of course he would likely be more powerful than all the service chiefs combined. Not necessarily because he is the NSA, but because HE is the NSA.

Remember the massive difference between Abba Kyari as Chief of Staff and the Kwara diplomat Gambari as Chief of Staff. It's never about the office, but always about the person occupying the office.
Best comment
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by DaveHarry(m): 11:42am On Jun 21, 2023
CoolAmbience:



It is not true.

Tunde Sabiu was not more influential than Osinbajo or Lawan. That is only in the imagination of some.

Tell me the big influencing he did. Who did he nominate as minister or head of MDAs?

On the subject, the NSA is superior to the Service Chiefs, as he manages the nation's security on behalf of the president.





I was even surprised at what he said about the sabiu of a guy. The man is not that influential as he claimed. I for don hear him name before now
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Wetlands22: 11:43am On Jun 21, 2023
hedonido:
Nigerians are funny. In this country, any office is as powerful as the president wants the holder of that office to be.

Tunde Sabiu was just a personal assistant to Buhari, but he was more powerful than the Vice President, Senate President, NSA, and service chiefs combined.

Just as Obasanjo's Senior Special Assistant on Domestic Matters (Andy Uba) was the most powerful in his government.

Considering how much Ribadu seems to have ingratiated and enmeshed himself into this BAT's sinister inner caucus, of course he would likely be more powerful than all the service chiefs combined. Not necessarily because he is the NSA, but because HE is the NSA.

Remember the massive difference between Abba Kyari as Chief of Staff and the Kwara diplomat Gambari as Chief of Staff. It's never about the office, but always about the person occupying the office.

The Abba Kyari and Gambari is a very good reference to portray your point.
Nice one!!
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:44am On Jun 21, 2023
anytexy:
Ok. I have read some comments.
Please, wetin come be the work of minister for defense?


Supervises the adminstrative support for defence.

Support the President in developing defence policies.

Work with the CDS on implementing the country's defence.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by GoodGovernance: 11:45am On Jun 21, 2023
Gamesmart:


It is on the same level as Chief of Defence Staff (CDS).

One is responsible for investigation and intelligence. The other is responsible for action and fighting.

The CDS reports to both the President and Minister of Defence.

The NSA reports to only the President.

The NSA is also a member of the Federal Executive Council (FEC) and National Security Council (NSC). The CDS is only a member of the latter.

That said, the CDS manages a larger body and has a much larger budget.

NSA is definitely above CoAS, CNS and CAS.

The NSA is not a member of Federal Executive Council.

And whilst the CDS is a member of both National Defense Council and the National Security Council ,the NSA is only a member of National Security Council,in accordance with the constitution.

It is also wrong to say a service chief like COAS,that does not report to the NSA,is lower than the latter.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by DaveHarry(m): 11:45am On Jun 21, 2023
GoodGovernance:


No sir!

Service chiefs do not report to NSA!

But they were complaining at first they can't be under a junior.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:46am On Jun 21, 2023
Samuel1402:
The NSA is just an adviser to the president on security matters, ha has nothing to do with service chief. The Chief of Army Staff, CHIEF of Air Staff, Chief of Naval staff all reporting to the CHIEF OF DEFENCE STAFF. The chief of defence staff then report to the MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, while the minister for defence report to the PRESIDENT. On any security matters reported to the president by the minister for defence the president then call in the N.S.A on action to take on the report and whatever its decided by the N.S.A and the president, will be transmit to the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY [IF NEEDED] So the NSA is not bigger than the service chief in any way

The CDS reports to both President and Minister.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Back2Daura(m): 11:49am On Jun 21, 2023
The NSA advices the president from reports from service chiefs. He over sees all military achitecture.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by hafeeanubasy: 11:52am On Jun 21, 2023
drugBaronTINUBU:

The National Security Adviser is a senior official in the cabinet of the President of Nigeria who manages national security on behalf of the President and serves as his chief advisor on all matters that are vital to the very survival of the state. The position is a statutory member of the Presidency, National Security Council and Federal Executive Council

Biggest Tinubu mistakes
The Nigeria military are only loyal to the constitution and to themselves and Tinubu have already created a bad blood by telling them to answer to a common police officer.
Ribadu is just a common police officer
If a coup happens today, he wont be able to stop it
You are wrong!
Tinubu appointed the service chiefs too.
If they are not comfortable working with NSA,they would have rejected the appointment!

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by AlphaWolf27: 11:52am On Jun 21, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:

No govt department in Nigeria can procure arms without his approval. Kindly check the duties of the office. He gives final approval on all security gadgets.

I'm not arguing they don't give approvals. I personally have dealt with approvals from the ONSA for explosives to be used in well operations but that's not the definition of having executive powers. I say again, the ONSA has no executive powers.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:53am On Jun 21, 2023
searchlight:
Best comment

It was a moronic comment!
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Svoboda(m): 11:53am On Jun 21, 2023
seborrhic:

In addition any spy or security tool to be used by any branch of the FG or state goverment must be cleared,vetted and approved by the NSA only.
I believe even the armed forces military purchase after being signed by the respective service chiefs has to have final clearance by the NSA.
It's quite a powerful role because everything security especially purchase goes through the NSA.Any military equipment of whatever type that comes into Nigeria without NSA clearance is deemed an illegal arms purchase.
It's like a certificate that arms dealers everywhere in the world must see before they can send down any military or paramilitary security equipment.

Youre very apt and have done a very elaborate job. The nsa's role is very much limitless. The nsa is like a uam that eaglewatches over the length and breath of the country unhindered.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Gamesmart: 11:54am On Jun 21, 2023
DaveHarry:

I was even surprised at what he said about the sabiu of a guy. The man is not that influential as he claimed. I for don hear him name before now

No mind am!

Read some nonsense sensational report from a blog and thought he had found wisdom.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by GoodGovernance: 11:55am On Jun 21, 2023
DaveHarry:

But they were complaining at first they can't be under a junior.

It was based on the erroneous impression of the past,just because earlier occupants of the office of NSA had always been ex-generals

Tinubu is not that daft to appoint a Ribadu to rule over service chiefs!

The reporting lines are totally different.

Because of the attachment to the presidency,the service chiefs would only be working with AND NOT WORKING UNDER Ribadu

Ribadu would not be attending meetings with service chiefs in a capacity as their boss,never!

The president remains the commander in chief of the Nigerian armed forces.

It is like saying that the PA to the CEO of A company is superior to the General manager ,just because the PA is closer to the CEO and reports directly to him and may be the general manger reports to just an executive director ,not reporting directly to the CEO.

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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by AlphaWolf27: 11:55am On Jun 21, 2023
hafeeanubasy:

You are wrong!
Tinubu appointed the service chiefs too.
If they are not comfortable working with NSA,they would have rejected the appointment!

Listen to yourself. I think what you should have said was 'if they are not comfortable with working with the NSA, they should resign'. They have no say in the appointments the President makes. Period. Wake up to the reality of the current times bro.
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 11:57am On Jun 21, 2023
AlphaWolf27:


I'm not arguing they don't give approvals. I personally have dealt with approvals from the ONSA for explosives to be used in well operations but that's not the definition of having executive powers. I say again, the ONSA has no executive powers.
You are limiting what executive power is to giving orders. Kindly note that he is the head of counter terrorism operations according to the counter terrorism act.
You can explain what you mean by executive power though, maybe that will give an insight into your view.

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