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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by opportunity0101(m): 11:59am On Jun 21, 2023 |
The America NSA does not mean the same as ours. Is called National Security Agency and is under defence, the provide intelligence reports. helinues: |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Image123(m): 11:59am On Jun 21, 2023 |
All the money going into arms and insurgency will pass through him. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by ocelot2006(m): 12:00pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
The ONSA controls the intelligence services. The office is a powerful one. 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by opportunity0101(m): 12:00pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Don't mislead people here ok. Thank you. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by hafeeanubasy: 12:02pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
AlphaWolf27:Which stupid reality? I appoint you and instructed you to work with someone and you are being arrogant? I will give you a close watch and sack you! Even if the NSA is a military man,if they want to be arrogant, they will.what if Ribadu,a retired policeman is the president?,they will not follow his command?,was Tunde rabiu not ordering Emefiele and malami around like mumu with their level of education. 2 Likes |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by yomojesu: 12:03pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
There is a message here, in Nigeria, most of the past NSA appointees have military background (mostly Generals). In this Ribadu case, it means; 1. One must build and maintain good relationships afar as this country is concern. 2. Stay on your lane and develop yourself, build your profile. They say when preparation meets opportunity, success is inevitable! (Ribadu was a fine Police Officer, who was suddenly appointed as the Head of EFCC under OBJ then and now he is the new NSA). |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by kokomilala(m): 12:13pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
The NSA Oversees The Security Apparatus The national security adviser oversees the entire security network in the country. And this includes budgets for arms and ammunition, welfare and other logistics. In effect, he advises the Commander In Chief, that's the president on security matters. He's next in line to the president on matters bordering on security. 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by otipoju(m): 12:16pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
hedonido: Tinubu might just be preparing Ribadu for office after him. You know he was once the presidential candidate for AC against Jonathan the first time Jonathan ran 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Dejijossy(m): 12:18pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
The service chiefs and NSA positions are parallel to each other, we cannot be comparing them. The NSA is the eye of the president on Security issues. He advice the president on Security and it is not mandatory for the president to action his advise. The NSA doesn't give instructions to the service chiefs, but rather take instructions from the commander in Chief himself. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by calebsolaunice(m): 12:20pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
NSA brief the CinC on the security situation in the Country and advice the President accordinly,the job of all service chiefs is to report directly to Chief of Defence Staff who is the most senior officer in Nigeria armed forces he report directly to the President.I dont expect a four star general to report directly to NSA who retired as AIG.If anyone have superior arguments kindly bring it to the table. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by J3susFr3ak: 12:24pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
hansomb: Ok...now we also have an idea about which office in the Presidency under Buhari was responsible for coordinating the sourcing of funds (mostly from oil proceeds) to be able to source and arm AK-47s to every cow herder who have now abandoned herding to becoming active terrorists. A country should have more than one primal NSA from key geo-zones and demographics to balance the scales when it comes to presenting actionable intelligence. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by kokomilala(m): 12:29pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Without Ambiguity, The NSA Sits Above All Other Security Offices I've gone through the comments. And I've come away with some very interesting angles to the issue. I've also seen some stark ignorance displayed by people who simply should have learnt instead of advertising their ignorance. It's very clear, and with certitude, that the office of the NSA is the highest in the hierarchy of security positions, bar that of the president. This is well spelt out, well documented, without any recourse to interpretations. It's a very powerful position, whether the president likes it so or not. I mean a man that wields so much influence in the circles of power would be very powerful. Now, to what someone said about one Tunde having so much influence in Buhari's government, well, that's down to the kitchen politics and intrigues within the presidency. People were not smart enough to put him in his place. He had no place within that structure. He saw a vacuum and filled it. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 12:30pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Gamesmart:NSA is not on same level as CDS. CDS is a member of National Defence Council and NSA is not as well. In terms of operational command, the CDS and the service chiefs have more bite than the NSA. The NSA has the ears of the president which is where he gets his major influence from. Buratai took on the NSA and nothing happened!! |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 12:35pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
OlujobaSamuel:The armed forces can import such things without his approval. A lot of you guys don't follow the news. The $1bn buhari spent on arms procurement, NSA later came out to say he doesn't know how it was spent because there was no approval from his office. The military all have procurement units and besides, there's DICON which is under the CDS who also have authority to procure 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 12:35pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Gamesmart:What?!! That's not true |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 12:37pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
flejnr2:Where are you people getting this idea of CDS reporting to NSA. At least you have data, use Google na |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by EmirAsheBaba: 12:42pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
[quote author=Nahunger post=123932943]Grabs popcorn 🍿 Pulls a plastic chair Switch off Netflix Pecks a bottle of coke... Wait the people in NSA department are coming to give you answers. Also nairaland branch of NSA will be here soon[/quote Yes, is a office and NSA office is a head of intelligence department or agency in the nation and it mandates the security operations in the nation.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by senatordave1(m): 12:44pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
drugBaronTINUBU: Was monguno not disrespected? Is it lagbaja or musa that will carry out the coup? You think tinubu is as empty as obi 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by senatordave1(m): 12:44pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
plat0: Doesn't have the clout.it will be shettima or rufai |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by olaniyilukman(m): 12:45pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Streetdoctor:but to be honest, everything in this life is in hierarchical order, military should be the one to occupy office of the NSA for better and effective results... |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Savechild23: 12:58pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Military has failed, even a socialite without military background can manage national security with his two feet’s on the ground with open mindset and the interest of the country at his nucleus of his focus 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by drugBaronTINUBU: 1:01pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
senatordave1:See how empty and ignorant u are Goan check the history of Nigeria coups It's mostly junior officers |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Boyooosa(m): 1:07pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
hedonido: Well said but the truth is, the office of the NSA is closer to the president, in fact, it's considered to be part of presidency, a structure built to give presidency first hand information... Nigerian security architecture is branched into three arms/forces: 1. Intelligence / NSA 2. Armed Forces / CoAS 3. NPF/IG. The three bosses in their various units are on the same reporting level and hierarchy but the NSA has more access's to their principal, the president But as you rightly said, the principal chooses his favourite 1 Like
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Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by senatordave1(m): 1:07pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
drugBaronTINUBU: When last did coup happened in Nigeria? Can't you see that that generation of coup plotters is gone? Almost all coup plotters are connected to ibb,danjuma? Are you aware that any coup that didn't involve them usually fails? Are you aware that the 1966 coup were carried by majors and they aren't junior officers.samw as the counter coup.the 1975 coup was carried out by a senior murtala Muhammed directly or indirectly? Dimka and orkar were not junior officers son |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 1:09pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Agbegbaorogboye:Smiles, now I get you. It's not the finance that he is approving but the arms. So the military is not presenting its budget to the NSA. Eg, the Navy wants to import a gun boat, he is the one to give the clearance on if such gun boat can be used by our navy and if it's sourced from the right person or organisation. I'm not talking about financial implications. Just because the office is not respected due to some privileges some individual or group enjoyed by having direct access to a superior authority (the president), doesn't mean it has no authority 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by cedricksly: 1:12pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Natural2Heal:stop saying what u don't know abeg & stop misleading people with so much confidence. 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 1:14pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
OlujobaSamuel:No you don't get it. Go and check the armed forces act. The armed forces can procure equipments without NSA approval as long as the president approves it. And such is possible, and has happened many times. Most procurement that goes through NSA are good internal security not even military. DICON which is the body responsible for local manufacturing of weapons is under the defence hqrs not NSA. And that's what Monguno was calling attention to, not the finance. He was simply absolving himself of the procurement so he's not taken for another Dasuki |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 1:24pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Agbegbaorogboye:During Dasuki/GEJ tenure, the NSA was responsible for arms procurement. I'm not disputing Dicon jurisdiction. We can't use Buhari tenure to judge so many things, so many illegality in terms of administration was done that makes it seem no one knows what is right because the court can't even change it. Do you remember that the Ogun State govt also once procured arms for the NPF Ogun State command, which was even stored by the state, but the NSA had to approve it then? According to the Counter Terrorism Act, the NSA is the coordinating head of its operations, meaning any other office having anything to do with security of the state will at one time or the other need the input of the NSA 1 Like |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Agbegbaorogboye: 1:33pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
OlujobaSamuel:The NSA was not responsible for arms procurement during GEJ's tenure. What you're suffering from is the danger of half- knowledge. What happened was that due to the US's embargo on weapon sale to Nigeria, most western countries officially denied Nigeria the right to purchase arms. However, our armed forces still bought arms from countries like Russia, Belarus etc. The case of the South African plane and the $2.1bn was more of a back channel purchase and not official which was why it was easily prone to suspicion and abuse. Nothing illegal happened as far as Buhari's tenure was concerned for arms purchase. In fact, he did more country to country purchase than gej which is cheaper, more transparent and faster which is why he was able to equip our forces more. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by senatordave1(m): 1:36pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Agbegbaorogboye: Trite.lets pray for ribadu |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by Badb0y4lyf(m): 1:40pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
The office of the NSA may be very instrumental or vital however the chief of defense staff along with the service chief are an authority and very powerful ever wonder why they splitted the Nigerian military into Army, Navy and Air force in the first place and having chief of defense staff and minister of defense this are all checkmate to dilute the absolute power of the arm forces against a coup or dictatorship that’s is why the police, DSS couldn’t arrest emifele because he was guarded and escorted by the military even the president has to bear the GCFR . As the Grand commander of the federal republic of Nigeria and the Arm Forces. |
Re: How Big Is The Position Of Nigeria's National Security Adviser? by OlujobaSamuel: 1:58pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Agbegbaorogboye:I wasn't talking about illegality in arms procurement during Buhari's tenure, but illegality in administration/organisation, the COAS has more ears of the president than the CDS, having a custom boss that is a soldier, giving the IGP order but never obeyed and nothing happened are illegality. So how do you establish order If the NSA is having lesser to no authority as you implied, the Counter Terrorism Act won't give the office a power to head such security architecture which is at the centre of the nation's sovereignty. |
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