DaveHarry:
Is the NSA position number one security position in Nigeria. How really big is the NSA compared with other military chiefs? Make I learn this one

NSA adviser is just an adviser to the president. He doesn't hold any significant role of the military. It is all at the pleasure of the president, i.e in sane countries. Nigeria is not a sane country

agabusta:


Nope. The service chiefs are mandated to provide regular briefings to the Office of the NSA.

the don't report to the NSA but brief president directly. Service chiefs pledge to C in C and that's why the don't have any collaboration. So does DSS or NIA send briefs to NSA the answer is No but report to President directly. Intelligence are just sent to him and the NSA briefs the President that's y when a Minister comes in he liase more with NSA. No make service chief vex topple government say ordinary police dey command them

DaveHarry:
Is the NSA position number one security position in Nigeria. How really big is the NSA compared with other military chiefs? Make I learn this one

It’s primarily a STRATEGIC advisory role…
Unfortunately, some Nigerians treat it as an OPERATIONAL (or command) role.
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telleyway:
Service chiefs are reporting directly to the NSA, he's the number one security officer after the president.
Service chiefs pass their budget through him

It should NOT be any of the above…
I realize Mungono tried that, but the service chiefs duly pushed back!
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agabusta:


Nope. The service chiefs are mandated to provide regular briefings to the Office of the NSA.

Ireportlive:
As long as we have a Commander in Chief his NSA is more influential than any service chief

flejnr2:

They report to the NSA
The NSA gives out the presidents directive to them
The NSA is influential Also in the villa
He is in charge of most security contracts

All totally false.

You actually expect a four star general to to be taking directives from a police officer (in this case)??. Una know wetin una dey talk so??

Service chiefs DON'T REPORT TO THE NSA.

NSA is purely advisory in role and serves to coordinate intelligence among the DSS, NIA, and one other (can't recall now).

Major General Ayoola Rtd clarified this much on channels TV this morning.

Pls you guys should be sure of info you dish out.

telleyway:


Service chiefs are reporting directly to the NSA, he's the number one security officer after the president.
Service chiefs pass their budget through him

Lol you guys are funny. Bolded is totally false

Budget is handled by the Minister of defence, not the NSA. Get your info right.

alezzy13:




All totally false.

You actually expect a four star general to to be taking directives from a police officer (in this case)??. Una know wetin una dey talk so??

Service chiefs DON'T REPORT TO THE NSA.

NSA is purely advisory in role and serves to coordinate intelligence among the DSS, NIA, and one other (can't recall now).

Major General Ayoola Rtd clarified this much on channels TV this morning.

Pls you guys should be sure of info you dish out.

Where did you even see issuing directives in my post. And coming to that, yes, the NSA can issue a directive backed with a Presidential approval to the so-called Generals.


The NSA is NSA, not a police officer.

If the NSA deemed the so called Generals ineffective and the Commander in chief agrees, Mr 4-star General will be booted out. Its as simple as that.

michlins:
The NSA is more powerful than the vice President. Like he has more security clearance than the vice President as the whole intelligence passes through him to get to the president.

Although the vice president is closer to the line of succession

Abeg stop typing nonsense
Are you sure you’re educated?

The military and paramilitary can't purchase arms, warplanes,drones,ships without his clearance..money they that office ooo!ask dasuki.

princemillla:
NSA is a position headed by a skilled person who understands security in every angles. More like a consultant. The president listen to him and becus the president can't listen (doesn't know much about security or have time to attend to all service chief), hence the office of the NSA gives feedback to the president in a layman language (just an illustration)

So, all service chief are king in their domain but the NSA is like their class teacher whom dey must submit their report to for the presidents understanding of what's is what

I think The Service Chiefs Report to the Minister of Defence for Onward Briefings to the President ....

NSA is to Advise the President On the Entire Security Architecture of the Nation & Other Nations Regardless of What Comes From the Ministry of Defence through the Service Chiefs

NSA Possibly Heads the Secret police such as DSS & NIA & Possibly Counter-Terrorism Units!

NSA can Subpoena any Report from Any Security Formation at the Behest of the President for Immediate Digests before onward Advises to His President!

They Must All Work Together But NSA is the Biggest Boy !

telleyway:


Service chiefs are reporting directly to the NSA, he's the number one security officer after the president.
Service chiefs pass their budget through him

This is a Lie oo ... Service Cheifs passed through Budget through MOD ... Ministry of Defence ...

NSA is an Independent Unit .... National Security Adviser ni fa !

Streetdoctor:

It will a very big battle BTW Ribadu and those corrupt military Generals.
Even though is not mandatory that d office of d NSA should be held by d military but d ego of those Generals would jeopardize Ribadu's effort. Even before d announcement of Ribadu as NSA, those Generals has started pushing against it.
I was listening to one retired army General yesterday on Arise TV, baba specifically said that those Generals won't vmbe comfortable working with a retired police AIG.

They have No Option But to work with Him ... This has Nothing to do with Police or Armed Forces But Appointments ....

Everyone wants their person to be there ...

So if Ribadu Emerges the President, The Service Chiefs wouldn't want to work under AIG of Police ....

NSA can't Instruct Service Chiefs Directly Except Conveying the Instructions of the Mr President .....

Mr President would Instruct the Military Via CDS/Minister of Defence Not NSA !

VicM6:
PLEASE
But for you to be given an appointment to the office of the NSA, would such a person have any military background or just ordinary person can be given such an appointment?.

For him to Function Well as a Security Technocrats, He must be a Security Expert thus Have a Security Background & Be Well Versed In Nigerian & International Security Architectures !

He Advises the President On Security Affairs Both National & International so that The President can be Well Informed On how to Instruct the Service Chiefs or Police whichever any of the Security Arms it might Be !

All Security Affairs Must be Briefed to Is Office

He is Powerful Because He is the Ear & Eyes of the President On All Security Apparatus Both National & International! .....

DonroxyII:
I think The Service Chiefs Report to the Minister of Defence for Onward Briefings to the President ....

NSA is to Advise the President On the Entire Security Architecture of the Nation & Other Nations Regardless of What Comes From the Ministry of Defence through the Service Chiefs

NSA Possibly Heads the Secret police such as DSS & NIA & Possibly Counter-Terrorism Units!

NSA can Subpoena any Report from Any Security Formation at the Behest of the President for Immediate Digests before onward Advises to His President!

They Must All Work Together But NSA is the Biggest Boy !

Nice one

Agbegbaorogboye:

What?!! That's not true

Why not?

Agbegbaorogboye:

NSA is not on same level as CDS. CDS is a member of National Defence Council and NSA is not as well.
In terms of operational command, the CDS and the service chiefs have more bite than the NSA. The NSA has the ears of the president which is where he gets his major influence from. Buratai took on the NSA and nothing happened!!

Do you comprehend the difference between National Defence Council and National Security Council?

Do you know National Security Council is even superior to National Defence Council?

The Minister of Interior is not a member of the National Economic Council, does that mean he is not at a more senior level than the Governor of Central Bank, who is a member?

The son of the President can take on the Vice President and nothing will happen. And your point is?

GoodGovernance:


The NSA is not a member of Federal Executive Council.

And whilst the CDS is a member of both National Defense Council and the National Security Council ,the NSA is only a member of National Security Council,in accordance with the constitution.

It is also wrong to say a service chief like COAS,that does not report to the NSA,is lower than the latter.

The NSA is a member of the Federal Executive Council in the USA.

It appears it is also a member in Nigeria. See first paragraph below:

https://businessday.ng/lead-story/article/nsa-absent-as-buhari-presides-over-fec/

I bet he has to be in these because of the insecurities in Nigeria.

The National Defense Council is an inferior sub-council of the National Security Council that only has military people. Not being in it is not a sign of lack of importance.

The CDS is at the same level as the NSA. That AUTOMATICALLY and EFFECTIVELY means the COAS, CONS and CAFS are lower.

It is really poor logic to say because they don't report to the NSA, then they cannot be inferior.

CBN Governor does not report to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, that does not mean it is not a lower level role.

Ambassadors do not report to the Minister of Defence, that does not mean they are not lower level roles.

Gamesmart:


The NSA is a member of the Federal Executive Council in the USA.

It appears it is also a member in Nigeria. See first paragraph below:

https://businessday.ng/lead-story/article/nsa-absent-as-buhari-presides-over-fec/

I bet he has to be in these because of the insecurities in Nigeria.

The National Defense Council is an inferior sub-council of the National Security Council that only has military people. Not being in it is not a sign of lack of importance.

The CDS is at the same level as the NSA. That AUTOMATICALLY and EFFECTIVELY means the COAS, CONS and CAFS are lower.

It is really poor logic to say because they don't report to the NSA, then they cannot be inferior.

CBN Governor does not report to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, that does not mean it is not a lower level role.

Ambassadors do not report to the Minister of Defence, that does not mean they are not lower level roles.

How una take get all these knowledge sef

DaveHarry:

How una take get all these knowledge sef

No google and news reports o.

Plus awareness of and curiosity about the roles; sprinkled with some logical analysis (something these other guys obviously lack).

Agbegbaorogboye:

NSA is not on same level as CDS. CDS is a member of National Defence Council and NSA is not as well.
In terms of operational command, the CDS and the service chiefs have more bite than the NSA. The NSA has the ears of the president which is where he gets his major influence from. Buratai took on the NSA and nothing happened!!

I joined nairaland because of this your comment. How did Buratai take on the NSA (Munguno)🤣? Now you must be talking about the memo ordering army personnels in the NSA to be withdrawn and redeployed yeah?
How do you think that ended? Mr Munguno was not even in the country when Buratai tried this move. He was also not in the country when he ordered that none of the personnels should leave ONSA and NONE left. We became faced with a problem where officers could not obey the Chief of Army Staff because the NSA asked them not to. They disobeyed Buratai and nothing happened.

It was a smart choice because who could done anything to them for obeying the NSA in such circumstances? The ONSA is even more than powerful enough to cover them and it did.

There was zero probe or investigation let alone court martial into their disobedience after all the noise about taking disciplinary actions in the memos.

But if they disobeyed and the NSA wanted to table their matter can the Chief of Army Staff protect them? Not at all.