PS: Fashion IS culture.

Ileke-IdI:

It's okay to call it "fashion".

It's not American influence that the global world now wears jeans or shirt over jeans. It's fashion.

No, in fact, Americans culture influenced the entire world just because people wear jeans. See the reasoning of your logic? I guess also because people wear neckties it means that every culture in the world was influenced by Croatia.

Ileke-IdI:

PS: Fashion IS culture.

That's where you're mistaken. Fashion doesn't equal culture. Most of these things that youve displayed here are items of "Nigerian fashion" however they are not necessarily traditional attire.

odumchi:

No, in fact, Americans culture influenced the entire world just because people wear jeans. See the reasoning of your logic? I guess also because people wear neckties it means that every culture in the world was influenced by Croatia.

Ever  heardof the Western influence?
It's not part of Nigerian culture to wear jeans, it's a western influence. That's simple logic.

everybody wears jewelry. What makes it different is the type of jewels worn and what it means. The type of Necklace worn by Ijaws is not typically similar to that of the Yorubas.

The type of "earrings" worn by Kenyans, is not the type worn by americans.

Seems like you do not understand the meaning of culture.

odumchi:

That's where you're mistaken. Fashion doesn't equal culture. Most of these things that youve displayed here are items of "Nigerian fashion" however they are not necessarily traditional attire.

Once again, traditional fashion is culture.
A type of fashion exclusively worn by a certain community from generations to generations is culture. Fashion of group A might be someway similar to group B, it's still culture.

Just incase you're still a bit confused, nobody is saying yorubas invented Cloth.

As far as I'm concerned, I've yet to see any traditional attire on this thread. You're misunderstanding culture and fashion. Like I said, if you'd like to see the difference, refer to that video. It's an example of traditional attire- meaning attire our ancestors long ago wore.

I wouldn't suppose your ancestors wore gele headties, lace and etc.

odumchi:

As far as I'm concerned, I've yet to see any traditional attire on this thread. You're misunderstanding culture and fashion. Like I said, if you'd like to see the difference, refer to that video. It's an example of traditional attire- meaning attire our ancestors long ago wore.

I wouldn't suppose your ancestors wore gele headties, lace and etc.

As far as you're concerned. Let's leave it at that.

Refer to my previous post about Fashion being influenced by culture and cultural ideas, if you're still confused.

So, what name do you guys want?

Ondotunji (there's already an oyotunji) or ekotunji.
Oguntunji?

What range of titles are you interested in?

Do you want new ones specifically made or you'll be ok with current formats like oba, sao, olisa, etc.

Have you done any exploits to advance the yoruba cause- that could give you a knighthood befitting the occasion.
Eg Momasowa I

odumchi:

No, in fact, Americans culture influenced the entire world just because people wear jeans. See the reasoning of your logic? I guess also because people wear neckties it means that every culture in the world was influenced by Croatia.

Chei !!!! see your logic

neckties is an ENGLISH THING. I mean the conventional ties not the croatian ones which is more or less a bandana tied around the neck.

they have culturally influenced us and the corporate world. The english only acknowledged the Croatia.

Lastly

Fashion is CULTURE.

Food is Culture

greeting is culture.

Haba, give it up already

odumchi,
you are confusing d definition of culture here.

culture is always influx. tradition is passed on from one generation to d next.  Americans or Europeans didn't wear jeans (pants) 200 years ago. But jeans are now markedly a part of western culture. it has also been passed down enough generations that they can be considered a western traditional wear.

I think Ileke-idi made it clear that more flamboyant gele is part of[i] modern[/i] yoruba culture. I'll put this to the fact that the (mostly imported) material used to make gele nowadays has more flexibility/malleability than the locally woven thick fabric (aso oke) used previously by our ancestors. So there is lots of opportunity for creativity with the modern gele.


check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-xfeCrRf8

Who is deleting my posts here.

I was just kidding with the last one- no need to take things serious.

Sorry if i stepped on a nerve but it really is strange seeing an igbo ceremony where everyone is wearing yoruba attire.

tpia@:

Who is deleting my posts here.

I was just kidding with the last one- no need to take things serious.

Sorry if i stepped on a nerve but it really is strange seeing an igbo ceremony where everyone is wearing yoruba attire.

Could you tell us the items they were wearing that were invented by the Yoruba?

Ileke-IdI:

PS: Fashion IS culture.

Ileke-IdI:

It's not part of Nigerian culture to wear jeans, it's a western influence. That's simple logic.

See "simple logic".

ezeagu:

See "simple logic".

Very simple. Yet you cant grasp it.

Fashion is culture and can be brought through influence, yet Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture. How does that make sense? Nonsense ideas.

You just don't want to admit that grand bou bou's are as foreign to Nigeria as Jeans. If Nigerians modify Jeans into 50 ft head ties, it won't make denim a Nigerian cultural influence if others wear it.

ezeagu:

Fashion is culture and can be brought through influence, yet Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture. How does that make sense? Nonsense ideas.

Fashion is culture. It's not a Nigerian culture, but a Western influence.
Not nonsense ideas (that's what the re tards say), just incapability in your part to graps simple logic.

ezeagu:

You just don't want to admit that grand bou bou's are as foreign to Nigeria as Jeans. If Nigerians modify Jeans into 50 ft head ties, it won't make denim a Nigerian cultural influence if others wear it.

mambo jumbo.

Is that Yoruba for denim?

ezeagu:

Is that Yoruba for denim?

Are you asking about this? No it's Igbo for Ojukwu.

Ileke-IdI:

mambo jumbo.

Is he a Yoruba influence as well?

ezeagu:

Is he a Yoruba influence as well?

He only wishes.

So you have a special word for him? He's that big?

ezeagu:

So you have a special word for him? He's that big?

Ileke-IdI:

Are you asking about this? No it's Igbo for Ojukwu.

Not I.

Nah, I'm sure it's Yoruba.

ezeagu:

Nah, I'm sure it's Yoruba.

You're also sure you make sense. That's where the problem lies.

Maybe you can't read properly or something. You should try s.c.h.o.o.l. "Fashion is culture. Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture".

ezeagu:

Maybe you can't read properly or something. You should try s.c.h.o.o.l. "Fashion is culture. Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture".

Blame it on your incapability to understand "simple logic". Reading properly is not your only issue.

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LOL. 

Thought we could continue with our word play.