dayokanu:

If we are to use infrastructures then many countries dont deserve to be a State in the US

Why would infrastructures be a criteria when we are discussing a continent like Africa.

The singular most important thing(about 80%) when Categorizing cities is the POPULATION.

Timbuktu was undoubtedly a city in the 1800 even though it didnt have Skyscrapers

asha 80:

hehe i wonder if then mbaise can be classified as a city.

alj_harem:


you are comparing mbaise of 300,000 to abeokuta to 1 million + ?

dayokanu:

If we are to use infrastructures then many countries dont deserve to be a State in the US

Why would infrastructures be a criteria when we are discussing a continent like Africa.

The singular most important thing(about 80%) when Categorizing cities is the POPULATION.

Timbuktu was undoubtedly a city in the 1800 even though it didnt have Skyscrapers

asha 80:

hehe i wonder if then mbaise can be classified as a city.

asha 80:

who told you that mbaise is around 300000?have you been there before?abeokuta 1million?haha

alj_harem:

I don't need to go to mbaise. Mbaise is like a clan and moreover Imo state cannot house more than 300,000 mbaise people given that we have other clans in Imo.

Abeokute city could be considered to half of imo. isn't it

Nchara:

I would like that you explain how Kano, Kaduna, Benin PH and Ibadan would be cities and Enugu not.

Nchara:

You are right in many places but no one is comparing cities here. We are saying that our states have mostly [/b]one city in them. Is this wrong or right?

The uniqueness of Ibadan (capital city, population and SIGNIFICANT commerce/industry all rolled in one) [b]is exactly the same reason why I would not consider ogbomosho a city. Only few cities such as PH, Kano, Kaduna, Benin to mention a few will compare to Ibadan in that uniqueness described above.  

The downside to that is that those states are saddled with one-city state structures.

Abia, Anambra, Delta and a few others are unique in their own way in that they have the admin cities separated from the business/industrial cities
Culture does not make a city, I believe. Every group has their own culture and no culture is superior to the other.

emmastalwart,:

Oh, "MBAISE" the land of promise and achievement, the land of hope and fulfiedment, Land filled with great men and women, young & old. Land of procreation and betterment full of beautifull creatures, , Live long Mbaise, Live long Imo state, Live long Federal Republic of Nigeria. Comr. Enyinnaya Emmanuel C (A.K.A) Emmastalwart

Abagworo:

If the skyscrapers and wide high ways  are excluded, then Imo State has several cities like Owerri, Oguta, Akabo, Akokwa, Orlu, Okigwe, Mbaise, Anara-Amaraku etc. Anambra has Onitsha, Nkpor, Obosi, Ihiala, Nnewi, Atani, Uga, Umunze, Ekwulobia.etc All these places have more than 100,000 inhabitants.Most of the villages in Anambra and Imo are extremely populated and joined together, hence they have become cities by some peoples definition. The stretch of settlement on the Onitsha-Owerri highway from Awo Omamma to Ihiala is totally inhabited but is considered a cluster of villages.

Abagworo:

If the skyscrapers and wide high ways  are excluded, then Imo State has several cities like Owerri, Oguta, Akabo, Akokwa, Orlu, Okigwe, Mbaise, Anara-Amaraku etc. Anambra has Onitsha, Nkpor, Obosi, Ihiala, Nnewi, Atani, Uga, Umunze, Ekwulobia.etc All these places have more than 100,000 inhabitants.Most of the villages in Anambra and Imo are extremely populated and joined together, hence they have become cities by some peoples definition. The stretch of settlement on the Onitsha-Owerri highway from Awo Omamma to Ihiala is totally inhabited but is considered a cluster of villages.

9jaganja:


I think Nchara wants to debate modernization not city/town settlement!!

GAR3TH:

There is no real definition to what a city is, for example the smallest city in NY State is Sherrill with a population of 3,000 people while at the same time the largest town in New York state is The town of Hempstead with a population of 760,000. Like I said before cities and towns are defined by administrations like the case in NY or by people's common knowledge and perception.

According to the state of NY sherrill is a city but according to me and others sherill will be consider a town through our perception of what a town should be. So yes, Nigeria and it states may consider Enugu a city but many people will consider Enugu a large town. It doesn't look, act, feel or have the same flow as what we expect from a city. Compared to Kano, Kaduna, Benin, PH, Ibadan and Lagos, Enugu and even abuja would be considered suburban sprawls.

Nchara:

And you know that how? Yesterday you accused me of tribalism on account of this thread and now you divine for me what I intended to discuss? Men!!! I tire for some people

asha 80:


ignorance is bliss.i do not need to engage you any further.

Nchara:

On the bolded: Many people like who?

What makes Benin and PH different from Enugu? Their population difference? What is your own pop cut off? How is Abuja an urban sprawl and not a city? How is Ibadan (Indeed, Ibadan is a city as I have repeated here) a city with all its own urban sprawls (Ojoo, Moniya, etc) and Abuja will be a mere urban sprawl and not a city, according to you?

9jaganja:

subconsciously or intentionally, you were being biased toward your SE "cities" yes I accused you of tribalism and I stand by that. But the basis of your ethnic bias is suppose to be mechanical modernization not settlement,  Simple,

May be you are ignorant as to what a city is or is not hence you think, skyscrappers constitute a city. You were quick to mention places in the east which  by your standard won't even qualify as a city onitcha/Aba for example,  These are messed up places and calling them cities will make Ajegunle also in their league.

Really, I'm not the first to accuse you of tribalism. And YES your intentions were to paint other people as never developing while you "SE" is el dorado!!!

Nchara:

On the bolded: Many people like who?

What makes Benin and PH different from Enugu? Their population difference? What is your own pop cut off? How is Abuja an urban sprawl and not a city? How is Ibadan (Indeed, Ibadan is a city as I have repeated here) a city with all its own urban sprawls (Ojoo, Moniya, etc) and Abuja will be a mere urban sprawl and not a city, according to you?

GAR3TH:

Compare this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUP9U2Gj3-Q
to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8o5y5BmGs

Which one looks like a town and which one looks like a city.  Enugu is not densely populated and its development are spread out. A city in the minds of people is a place were you can easily walk from place to place and not have to drive 5 miles just to go shopping. Hence why I said enugu and abuja is an urban sprawl. compared that to Ibadan or PH, though you may have to drive sometime but for the most part everything is relatively close.

In other words a city, in the minds of many, is a place with high density and mixed zones.

KnowAll:

Lagos, Ibadan, Kano , Abuja, Kaduna, Benin, Enugu, PH, Ikeja, are Metropolitan in Nature and are Cities and are Metropolitan areas also.

alj_harem:

I would like to separate some facts here.

What makes Onitsha , benin and co a city is the opportunities those cities provides along side the diverse population and amenities.

although with things like malls and cinemas in enugu now, it would be expected to grow into a city.

alj_harem:

mbaise more than 300,000 when the population of Imo state does not support it.

Nchara:

Yes Mbaise is more than 300K, the most populous area of Imo state. Could be up to 1 ml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbaise

alj_harem:

I would like to separate some facts here.

What makes Onitsha , benin and co a city is the opportunities those cities provides along side the diverse population and amenities.

although with things like malls and cinemas in enugu now, it would be expected to grow into a city.