dayokanu:

Its not about the age but about the peak

So what tells you Torres is not past his peak

coogar:

but the players villas-boas inherited have aged considerably.
who is in the chelsea first team that is not 30 yrs? sturridge, mikel and mata.
others are 30+.

coogar:

because a season in chelsea where everyone's general performance has dwindled wouldn't be a true test of his ability.
i wanna see another season or torres in another team to know if he's truly peaked.

torres hasn't peaked - he just plays in a shitty team.
i wish fergie or redknapp makes a cheeky bid for him this coming summer

dayokanu:

Yet he said sometime later that it isnt about age.
What a confused soul

coogar:

you are a typical billy goat!
all the players i have mentioned have had their better days behind them.

only a complete goat like Coogar would compare Torres of 2008 when he was one of the top 3 strikers in the EPL to the one of 2011/12.

dayokanu:

Your post has been corrected

dayokanu:

Is Ronaldo a striker in the mould of Torres?

dayokanu:

If you say Messi is a defender then he might be cos nothing we havent heard from you in the last few days

Do you now know the transfer fee for Antonio Reyes?

coogar:

i do and i am sure it was more than arshavin(your record transfer @ arsenal).

Arsenal have finally concluded the most tortuous transfer of the mid-winter window by announcing the signing of the Russia international Andrei Arshavin from Zenit St Petersburg for a club record £15m almost 24 hours after the closure of the window, though it seems doubtful that the playmaker's first taste of Premier League football will come amid the explosive atmosphere of the north London derby at Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/feb/03/andrei-arshavin-joins-arsenal-record-deal

dayokanu:

So whats your revised transfer fee for Reyes,  Not only Dayokanu says Arshavin was the record transfer, Guardian also agree

coogar:

except that the same guardian reported nasri's transfer fee was £15.8m.
that is £0.8m more than your record transfer fee for arsenal.

at this juncture, i am sure you have lost your ability to count.

dayokanu:

Then you should ask yourself whats wrong with your bible the Guardian who called Arshavin the club record transfer

dayokanu:

Well ask Guardian why Arshavin became their own Arsenal record transfer

Now what is your revised Transfer for reyes after giving us 2 diff figures

dayokanu:

^^ Which of your links should we believe now?
You gave us a link for 13m, This one for 17.5, and earlier you stated that he was signed for 20m

Dude we are not talking finance here. We are talking about total transfer against result achieved.
Debo nailing AVB to the cross claiming he spent over £50m (When he actually spent £40m) and asking why he can't replicate his Porto feat.
So I say, Wenger spent £50m in the same transfer window . . Why hasn't Wenger replicated his own unbeaten feat. 

debosky:

I am criticising (not nailing ) AVB because he spent that money WITHOUT losing the best quality players in his squad. Even if we accept the smaller figure of £40m, what calibre of players did AVB lose from his side compared to Wenger?

coogar:

he's better off losing that quality completely rather than having to do with players who have lost all interest and hunger in winning titles.
what quality would vieira, pires, wiltord and lauren bring to the current arsenal side if they were still there?

villas-boas didn't lose the best quality players but those quality players have all gone past their expiry date.
it's the same ish. the drop in quality is obvious because they have all seen better days.

Reports suggest Barcelona have completed the signing of two Chelsea youngsters Sam Monjack and Charlie Colkett. The two were given a tour of La Masia a few weeks back and were said to be extremely impressed with the new building and facilities. As both players are under contract at Chelsea, Barca had to pay around £300,00 for each player. They will both join up with squad at the end of the season and will start in the Cadet A, then move on from there. Chelsea aren't said to be very happy.

debosky:

Are you insane? Did Wiltord, Vieira and Pires leave last season?

Who says these players have lost hunger? How many midfielders in the league have outscored Lampard? How come DD's hunger to win is still shining through?

This argument does not wash - the so called drop in quality is only as a result of a manger trying to fit square pegs into round holes. Trying to play a high line with Terry that  has never been the fastest of defenders is ludicrous.

diggz:

@ Coogar,shut ur gutter mk we hear word ojare. Giggs,scholes(came back from retirement),evra,ferdinard still plays for ManU yet U want Us to believe Drog,lamp,cole plus terry are Useless. My friend d only useless peeps we hv presently in our squad are d portugese plus Ur broda Torres and dats a Fact. One qxn,Y was Sir fergie runnin afta lampard durin Jan season? Yet u want us all to believe lampard is trash wen he's outscoring Ur crippled FT. Bros,respect Ur sef o!