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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 12:42am On Jun 28, 2016 |
lolawilliams: Let me be honest with you, Cousins is at best 6'10. Players lie about their heights a lot so they can play different positions that they are accustomed to. KD for example, is 6'11 but he doesn't want to be played as a center so he lied about his height by claiming 6'9. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 12:45am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN: Cousins is good offensively in fact he is the best at his position offensively. He is just a dressing-room nightmare. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:52am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Eruditor:It wasn't just trusting teammates more it was also getting a better coach who installed a better offense, Whatever I. Thomas said is moot, the Pistons at the time were just too strong physically and mentally.They were comfortably the best team in the league and in their 3 year run won two titles. Even if M.J was a willing passer his teammates still had to knock down shots. M.J was definitely not hung over. He was ill, you can dispute the nature of the illness. Conspiracy theorists have existed since creation but I have seen that game at least 10 different times. He was not hung over. That kind of effort you cannot give it when under any influence of alcohol. He was physically weak but mentally alert and arguably at his sharpest, alcohol would not give you that. I drink so I know this M.J was a chronic gambler. That was his main vice. Most NBA players, drink, party and smoke unless they are born again christians. However that M.J was partying on the brink of a pivotal game in Utah of all places just doesn't add up If M.J was that much of a drinker he would not play till he was 40. And at such a high level. I'm sorry I don't believe any athlete can perform up to that age if they were heavy drinkers. It would tell on his work ethic He averaged 20pts 6 rebs and 3 assists shooting 45% from the field at age 40!!! Haaa abeg M.J dey him own lane. The G.O.A.T |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 2:10am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Eruditor:I retract my statement.. Cousins > Tristan Thompson. Big Difference.. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 2:48am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN:cousins is a beast on the offensive end. The guy just get issues |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:33am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN: Bro no disrespect, but your post proves you obviously know little about "boogie". The question(s) surrounding boogie has never ever been about his talent, prospect or play, rather it has been about his attitude and disposition to the team, management and coaching. Boogie understands the fundamentals of the center position, have you taken some time to watch his foot work under the rim on both ends of the court? I would spare you his numbers/ stats. Boogie is way talented than Thompson and dominates both ends of the rim better than most centers in the league, he is the purest center left in the league especially after the obvious decline of Howard. Do you wonder why Shaq spent the bulk of last summer counselling him and is scheduled to spend some time with him this offseason? Boogie would bench any center in the league, u can take that to the bank any day, he is that good, especially if the team plays around him. I have mentioned this numerous times over the years on this thread, Boogie's only deterrent is himself, if he ever fixes that aspect, his ceiling is unimaginable. 3 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:25am On Jun 28, 2016 |
lolawilliams:#TeamWales |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 8:57am On Jun 28, 2016 |
] Roland17: SmooshCHN:Chill out man.. Already watched his tapes and retracted my statement. Always known him to be beast but didn't know he's the Best Center present. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 9:24am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN:And he can shoot threes he shud come to Warriors mehn!!!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 9:27am On Jun 28, 2016 |
lolawilliams:Even if he takes 1mill on behalf of the warriors nation we respectably decline this offer, maybe the mavs wud take him 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 9:33am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN: Forgive me i did not read your retraction before posting, however, watching tapes alone don't necessarily give in depth's about a player, especially when such player is still active. Take some time this coming season to watch some of his full games, hopefully it's a game he is vested in. Once more I am sorry I did not read your retraction. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 9:37am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Mizzzbeee:Lol.. Sacramento let Isaiah Thomas go. They won't let him slip off.. I'll like it though Do you know we have to get rid of 8 guys, yes 8 to accommodate Durant?? Including Bogut. I don't like it.. It feels weird just letting the Chemistry go like that. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 9:47am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Roland17:One can't know it all. Since I read "Center" my mind just went to what Centers of today are known for and I felt Tristan Thompson was doing same and I was far from reality. Teams like Brooklyn Nets, Sacramento, Milwaukee Bucks, Utah Jazz and Nuggets don't really get my attention and I don't plan on skipping top teams to watch them in except highlights Full games would help but I don't have such time. When next y'all talking about them players I don't know in depth, I'll keep mute but I'll never forget when he Chris Paul offered to shake Isaiah Thomas after he hard fouled the guy who was about to shake CP3 in and Bougie was like nah and dragged the poor boy away Very disappointing and that's the only full game I watched and Sacramento still lost. |
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 10:28am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Eruditor:Well, what can I say? U obviously pay more attention to the details and every data of the Stats more than I do. Maybe that's y lolawilliams crowned u da MVP. But I think u may be a bit wrong bout Curry. More often dan not, he usually beats taller players with dribbles and not shots over them, wenever they guard him beyond the arc, except at clutch moments. Steven Adams gave him some problems on shooting beyond the arc. Its hard to stick it all up to one player marking curry all thru a game or set of games, becos the way GSW plays. There are too many screens that always changes curry's primary defender. U can't stick it up to one player. 2) I beg to differ on kyrie being easier to mark than Lebron. Its easier to mark a point guard one on one than a strong forward like Lebron. But believe me, its much easier to set up an entire team to mark a Lebron who can't shoot efficiently from the outside than setting up your team to mark a kyrie at the perimeter. All the marking-team needs to do against Lebron is stuff their paint against Lebron. So that he ends most of his moves with layups, rather than dunks. Hope you know Lebron isnt good in ending his moves with layups compared to dunks. Kyrie, harden and curry are much better at that. And that's one edge Jordan had over everyone else. As good as Jordan was with dunks, his layup, double-pumps and finger-rolls were even prettier. Don't let this last regular deceive you by calling kyrie a "steak shooter". He got back from injury after 6months and didn't find his rhythm till playoffs. His 3-point% only tanked due to loss of form from injury he suffered. He wd never be as efficient as curry, but he's also very good, would get open looks and create his own shots off dribbles on both 2's and 3's. I totally agree with you that injuries slowed down curry's early development. Iv always known that. Same with him not being their primary scorer. I'm not using statistics to compare and judge this. Its like you are a Stats-man. I'm using raw-talent of what I see with my eyes. Curry didn't have supernatural ball handles and movements in his rookie/early years compared to kyrie. Those thing came to Curry after several years of practice. And they all came together in like his 5th year. Meanwyl it all showed in kyrie from his rookie year. I don't think any rookie has ever had such handles as curry in the history of the NBA besides Iverson and maybe Stephon Marbury. That's why Stephon Marbury was called "THE QUESTION" and Iverson was called "THE ANSWER". All in all, kyrie was far better as a rookie than curry was. Kyrie was touched by God after like 4years due to his hardwork and talent. Let me make something else clear, when I mentioned Horry, Kobe and Fisher being great shooters, I wasn't comparing them to curry or klay. Curry is the best shooter the NBA has ever seen. And to me he has brought something new to the NBA which is shooting-off-the-dribble with such quick release. But those guys I mentioned were good for the Lakers. They all were great for Phil jackson's Lakers and they did it for a 3peat. Take nothing away from those guys. In those games u said GSW didn't need Curry to be big, I actually saw it more of him not playing well from the very beginning, but bench players like Livingston and Barbosa showed up early from the very first half. MY RESPONSE CONTINUES IN MY VERY NEXT POST. I NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A LIMIT TO WORDS YOU CAN POST ON NAIRALAND TILL TODAY. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The NBA Begins by lolawilliams(f): 10:57am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN:I dont think one can compare cousins to T.T.. Remember On October 28, 2015 when Cousins recorded 32 points and 13 rebounds, as well as 4-of-5 three-pointers, in a season opening loss to the Los Angeles Clippers, just his first game, on November 11 too, he finished the game with 33 points to help the Kings defeat the Detroit Pistons 101–92. Twodays later, he scored a season-high 40 points in a 111–109 win over the Brooklyn Nets. On November 16, he was named Western Conference Player of the Week for games played Monday, November 9 through Sunday, November 15. It was the third career Player of the Week award for Cousins, who led the Kings to a 3–1 record on that week. We dont see all of this from T.T, the only time he steps up is in finals, same as he did last year but Nah I dont think cousins and T.T are the same, Cousins is better than T.T , T.T recored a high season points with 19points, 12rebounds against timberwolves, that was his highest in the 2015/2016 season, just that he hardly gets injury, he's the only player in NBA history that has played more consecutive games. Well as you said, I dont think he'ld be leaving Sac, he's like their god right now |
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 11:01am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Eruditor: CONTINUED BELOW: In those games u said GSW didn't need Curry to be big, I actually saw it more of him not playing well from the very beginning, but bench players like Livingston and Barbosa showed up early from the very first half. I didn't use one block to place kyrie over curry defensively. I only emphasized with that. Im a pointguard, tho not professionally. I see other things beyond having good steals-stats when it comes to defence: Quick feet, shuffles, balance wide open legs, skipping whoever screens you on either side of your body, staying close. And kyrie showed all these things on defence more than curry. Yeah, I watched Jordan's games on real time. I also know bout the Jordan rules. Not just I watching them, I recorded most of his matches, studied dem, paused dem, slow motioned them and all that. You are so on point on all you said bout the Jordan rules, pistons and Chuck Daly. I respect you for that. I never said or gave an impression that Jordan nevertheless u missed a shot. You must really be a new-school-bie basketball fan. Eruditor, back then no one really took note of things like percentages as much as they do now. Jordan averaged less than 33% field-goals or about that, in his first 8 years in the league and no one ever noticed or criticised him for it. Its this era of twitter and computer-age you all wanna see percentages everywhere after each match. That's why Iverson would always be my most beloved pointguard even tho I know he's not the best conventional point guard ever, cause I don't even wanna remember his percentages/efficiency. Cos back then he himself wasn't conscious of it or selecting his shots like all then Curry are doing today. I judge players with their eras, their rules and what matters to their fans at their own eras. Believe me, I would take Iverson to his era anytime above curry to this era anytime any day. All I know is that iverson gave me one of my best years of basketball and you have no idea how he influenced me and his era. Please my Oga what do you mean bout "people talking bout that flugame and it being disproved, hung up and all that"? That game can only be disproved to those that never watched it but later grew up to hear bout it from analysts and social medias. With all due, respect no let me and you fight here o (LOL). I watched that FLUGAME (live) thru the night. It was one of those matches I stayed awake in the following afternoon to see it on all sport centers on ESPN the following day to see it again and again. Please did you watch that game? Please you need to answer with honesty. Did you watch it? Jordan was deadsick. Even his sidekick(pippen) was having a bad day. And guess what? One against One, Utah had more fire power than bulls. All the bulls had was JORDAN who played like Kratos from GOD OF WAR. Please don't blasphem. JORDAN is a god in human skin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The NBA Begins by lolawilliams(f): 11:04am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Mizzzbeee:Lol, that guy is a joke, with the way he plays, a team offers him $23m, he declined it. Omg 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by lolawilliams(f): 11:08am On Jun 28, 2016 |
CFCman:Honestly, i don't see wales lifting the cup |
Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 11:20am On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN:Warriors better be wise,get a solid SF and keep our chemistry...we would still win championships at least 3 more sef!! |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 12:33pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
Mizzzbeee:Landing Durant is a Win Win situation in both long term and short term that's the way Lacob and Bob Myers sees it. But since Steve Kerr, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson would be involved in Friday's Pitching to Durant, I believe they're all ready to do whatever it takes to win championships and they wouldn't be stupid to forget we need a solid Center and bench. BTW, Iguodala and Livingston are staying so that'll help keep the bench alive and all we need is to build around them with few solid players and new ones McCaw, Kevin Looney and the 7ft6 Black Beast we acquired. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
how tall is KD?
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Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:08pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
Donlittle:Lol. Deandre is taller though. Camera angle exaggerated the difference between he and DeAndre |
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 4:20pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
SmooshCHN: the flu game isn't a myth. whoever sold it to you for a price, duped you. it was real . whether it WS foodpoison, malaria, hangover whatever it was, Jordan was deadsick. it was real and not all those fake thunder-balogun stories or India beating Nigeria 100-0 in football you may have heard all over the place. The flugame isn't to be bought. its best believed or experienced. I enjoyed both. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:57pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
nairamaniac:Lol.. The game held, comparing it with the Nig-Ind match makes no sense.. Jordan is the greatest of all time no one disputes that. He was diagnosed with Flu but still played and played well to make the series 3-2. I don't buy the media hype about the flu game. Running Nose, common cold or stomach ache are flu like symptoms. Current nba players are diagnosed with Flu and still play and drop 30. The America I know will always blow success out of proportion to sell.. M.J is the GOAT. The flu game was what it is by those who wants to tag it the flu game and as a hero that he is, Great story, Great Performance = Golden Memory.. I choose MJ as my greatest and the Flu Game to be overblown by the media/America. Note: I don't mean the game was sold.. I don't buy the "Flu" hype. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Skywalker5(m): 5:00pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
Mizzzbeee:Abi oo |
Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 5:03pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
Donlittle:The Jordan faces on Barnes, Draymond and Klay tho |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 5:15pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/747497707351183361/video/1 Durant and Klay Bonding Harrison Barnes in today's interview says he wants to stay with the Warriors.. The guy is very annoying. He wants to ruin everything |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
Durant is not joining the warriors lol. Its that simple. Just dont make any sense |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:05pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
It doesn't look possible, I honestly would prefer Batum and save money but there's no harm trying to secure him, he has been on the list for 2 seasons already even before last year's championship so there's nothing stopping us from trying. I even expect the NBA to interfere but I love the fear and pressure it's putting on every other team and fans.. Such a great feeling since we lost the finals |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:22pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
chasing durant when you have no shot at getting him is stupid, Dallas has been doing something like this for years, and end up gettibf peanuts because the stars wont sign, and the really good players already went somewhere else. Batum, Will shoot the three better than barnes especially if he has space aince teams will focus on curry and klay, if his three isnt falling, Will drive to the basket unlike barnes who will keep shooting, if those arent working, Kid will play defense, and grab rebounds, Better rebounder than barnes, and i dont think he wants the max. Will probably sign him for lesser than barnes or kd will command, and you can get a better Center than ezeli, You also are not disrupting your chemistry. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:34pm On Jun 28, 2016 |
We're basically saying the same thing except that you think chasing Durant is stupid. KD knowing the Warriors always wanted him and coming after him now knows it isn't stupid. He also wants to be on the Warriors What can we do when a Warrior wants to join fellow Warriors |
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