Kunle-A:

^^^^^^^^^
Point well taken. But a 2012 R8 is not a NECESSITY.

Siena:

What one may deem necessary is subjective.

kolnel:

Can someone pls give me the cost of clearing an 03 honda accord• 04. Honda accord. 97 camry and 99 sienna from tin can port. On the hapag Lloyd line.
Thanks a lot.

Kunle-A:

Of course. But 2012 R8 is NOT for BASIC transportation. That should not be debatable.
"Must have" and "Wishlist" are 2 different things.

Kunle-A:

^^^^You are comparing apples and oranges. when somebody needs a car and all he has is N800k.

Siena:

As I said previously, it's all subjective. To one that would rather ride in a 2010 Maybach, the 2012 could well be basic transportation. Wealth and poverty also subjective - a billionaire that's down to his last million, running a Bentley Continental, living in a luxury Penthouse in New York could be classed as poor, based on the life he's become accustomed to, compared to one that has $75,000 sitting in the bank, running a 2007 Toyota Camry, and living in a modest apartment in a middle-class suburb.

Siena:

Bro, the comparison is pretty valid. For 800,000 Naira, I can land a 1999 Toyota Camry (facelift) in Lagos. My profit will be a lot smaller than if I'd landed a 1993 model, but at least the buyer will have a newer car, and clearing costs will be the same for a '99 and '93.

Kunle-A:

Extortion is different. A police officer did not see a signature on your document and then alluding to the fact that it must be a "stolen" vehicle to extort you is quite different.

Different method, same old analogy. The police officer is still "boosting" his salary, so he can afford all the better things in life. He's still breaking the law. It's still corruption. The customs official that has to be "settled" in order to allow an over-age automobile through, is still "extorting".   So either way, people are still getting screwed, and there's a payment going through without a valid receipt, in addition to the regular clearing fee.  

Siena:

Different method, same old analogy. The police officer is still "boosting" his salary, so he can afford all the better things in life. He's still breaking the law. It's still corruption. The customs official that has to be "settled" in order to allow an over-age automobile through, is still "extorting".   So either way, people are still getting screwed, and there's a payment going through without a valid receipt, in addition to the regular clearing fee.  

Kunle-A:

Next time you are stranded at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, i hope you wait until someone with a Bentley or R8 shows up to pick you up. When we are talking BASIC. I mean BASIC.

So you're shipping in 1993 Toyota Camrys as a public service, so in the event you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, a '93 Camry will pick you up? C'mon guy! This is all about $$$!   What does being stranded in a remote area have to do with the import of an over-age automobile?  

Kunle-A:

Check very well. You probably won't find one with 110k original miles. Petrol prices are going up here. You can't believe what 1997-1999 Camry's are going for these days.

Brother, I'm an engineer, not a dealer. I know what to look for in a clocked car, I also know what's realistic and consistent with regards the mileage displayed.  

Akiika:

To you guys flaunting your illegal activities online, i say shame on you. You all make noise about Govt. officials being corrupt yet you are doing the same thing. Only God knows the kind of leader you'll be if you get the opportunity to be in public service. You complain about the sorry state of Nigeria, what are you doing to make it better? breaking the law and bragging over it.
@Fhemmy, can you do that in the US you lived without facing the music? Have you wondered why you are able to live in the US successfully, it is because the people and the Govt. respect the law. Now talking about your illicit transactions and dangerous cars you circumvent the law to ship to Nigeria. How safe are those cars in Nigeria, i bet all of the safety features of those cars are gone, seat belt, air bag e.t.c Tell me how a 1993 car can survive the Nigerian road for even 6 months. You are not helping the uninformed buyer my friend.
By the time you add all the cost of the car including shipping and clearing in Nigeria,, then it's overpriced for the present value of the car. If only our useless Govt. invest in vehicle manufacturing, people will not be compelled to buy a "coffin" for that much money thinking it's a car.

Siena:

So you're shipping in 1993 Toyota Camrys as a public service, so in the event you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, a '93 Camry will pick you up? C'mon guy! This is all about $$$!   What does being stranded in a remote area have to do with the import of an over-age automobile?  

Brother, I'm an engineer, not a dealer. I know what to look for in a clocked car, I also know what's realistic and consistent with regards the mileage displayed.  

Kunle-A:

At least when i am being "extorted" by the customs by bringing underage cars into the country, at least i have a say in it. when police delay when you are traveling trying to find what's not lost. That is different. You need to live in Naija for a while. Not just on visit.

Kunle-A:

I sure am not doing it for charity. In case you are yet to catch on.

Brother, I caught on that from your first response with regards the OP's query.

Kunle-A:

But seriously at this stage, do you think you are the only one that recognize a clocked car when you see it. Or you mean to tell me that there is no 1993 vehicle out there with no less than 100k miles. Or they must all be clocked?

Kunle-A:

Check very well. You probably won't find one with 110k original miles. Petrol prices are going up here. You can't believe what 1997-1999 Camry's are going for these days.

Siena:

Brother, extortion is still extortion, regardless of how you view it. And as per having a say in being extorted by customs when bringing in a over-aged automobile, I beg to differ. If you don't pay, your car can be seized. The moment you choose to break the law, you're at the mercy of the enforcers of that particular law. They've got you by the balls, you're out on a limb.

BizBooks:

I do not fault Kunle for bringing in over-aged cars. I only fault him for sharing too much information.

BizBooks:

I do not fault Kunle for bringing in over-aged cars. I only fault him for sharing too much information.

Kunle-A:

You NEED to live in Nigeria for a while. Not just visit. Then come back to tell me what you see. At least, i chose to give my balls to them. Ask multitude of people that paid for Prepaid meter and don't see it for 2yrs while they are paying "estimated" bills.

Even if you bring in a 2010 car with all duty fully paid, when you come upon customs checkpoint, they will still ask for "officer on duty fee" (N1,000). and what happens if you don't pay? I hope you have all the time in the world. All the checkpoint you come across will demand N200. Why? just because.

So it's a case of "if you can't beat them, join them", is it? That being the case, I wonder what the strikes and protests in Nigeria are about. Strikes and protests are about voicing displeasure. I don't need to live in Nigeria to know what's happening there, it's common sense. I follow Nigerian news, both online and on Cable TV. I'm more in tune with Nigerian affairs than you could imagine, bro. We can't continue to justify corruption, because it suits us to do so.

I'm sure our dear "Agbada-clad" corrupt politicians attempt to justify their actions too. "Let's all rob the country blind, because our predecessors did the same". LMAO.  

elite:

Siena, kindly avail me your email address, or forward it to uchstar4@yahoo.com. I wanna make some enquiries from you

Siena:

So it's a case of "if you can't beat them, join them", is it? That being the case, I wonder what the strikes and protests in Nigeria are about. Strikes and protests are about voicing displeasure. I don't need to live in Nigeria to know what's happening there, it's common sense. I follow Nigerian news, both online and on Cable TV. I'm more in tune with Nigerian affairs than you could imagine, bro. We can't continue to justify corruption, because it suits us to do so.

I'm sure our dear "Agbada-clad" corrupt politicians attempt to justify their actions too. "Let's all rob the country blind, because our predecessors did the same". LMAO.  

The point is for what a '93 Toyota Camry costs landed in Nigeria, a '99 one can be had.