Kunle-A:

Even when you bring in your 99, lets see how you will not be "extorted" at various police and customs checkpoint on your way home. God forbid you are going to Delta State with a newly imported "tokunbo".  That is if you did everything by the book. Try and lecture your way out if that.

Kunle, I honestly can't see where your argument is leading here. How does being extorted whilst driving a '99 Camry correlate to getting a '93 instead? And what do I have to lecture my way out of? You give the impression importing a '93 Camry will solve all my problems, and I can't make head or tail of your argument.  

Kunle-A:

And for the cost of the '93, its not a hard and fast rule that an older car MUST cost less that a newer one. Its all in the QUALITY of the car. As long as its OK with the buyer, its fine with me. Most '93-96 camry are selling in the same price range in Lagos but the difference is that most are Cotonou cleared and MUCH higher mileage.

Bro, as you and many know, I'm an enthusiast, so very picky about my cars. Cars are not just a means of going from A to B for me, cars make a statement, so quality is very much part of my criteria, both visua, electricall and mechanical. I know quality when I see it. There are more Toyota Camry's in the United States, compared to Europe. If I can find a mint one in Europe, I'm sure you could find one in the United States that doesn't have to be almost nineteen-years-old. We're not talking about the prices they go for in Lagos - we're talking Landed Price In Lagos.  

Akiika:

To you guys flaunting your illegal activities online, i say shame on you. You all make noise about Govt. officials being corrupt yet you are doing the same thing. Only God knows the kind of leader you'll be if you get the opportunity to be in public service. You complain about the sorry state of Nigeria, what are you doing to make it better? breaking the law and bragging over it.

@Fhemmy, can you do that in the US you lived without facing the music? Have you wondered why you are able to live in the US successfully, it is because the people and the Govt. respect the law. Now talking about your illicit transactions and dangerous cars you circumvent the law to ship to Nigeria. How safe are those cars in Nigeria, i bet all of the safety features of those cars are gone, seat belt, air bag e.t.c Tell me how a 1993 car can survive the Nigerian road for even 6 months. You are not helping the uninformed buyer my friend.
By the time you add all the cost of the car including shipping and clearing in Nigeria,, then it's overpriced for the present value of the car. If only our useless Govt. invest in vehicle manufacturing, people will not be compelled to buy a "coffin" for that much money thinking it's a car.

Kunle-A:

I will say you suspend your judgement for a minute until you get home. People on ground know exactly what i am talking about.

omar22:

why 1994! you could get it for free at the scrap yard!

Kunle-A:

You won't even get it for free. The scrap yard will PAY you to take it. The shipline will ship for free and the Customs will clear for free too. They will even escort you home and add  free petrol for 1 year!

Brother, I'm an engineer, not a dealer. I know what to look for in a clocked car, I also know what's realistic and consistent with regards the mileage displayed.

zumbigbo:

Kunle - Real Talk.

The reality on the ground for our people is different. How can we expect someone earning 30,000 naira per month to save up and buy a car of N2,000,000.

Impossible.

The gap between government legislation and our people is reality. We live in it, while they peer at it behind fortified windows, walls and new spec cars.

You won't even get it for free. The scrap yard will PAY you to take it. The shipline will ship for free and the Customs will clear for free too. They will even escort you home and add  free petrol for 1 year!

Kunle-A:

@ Sienna,
UK / US is not the same as Nigeria. Come back ane let me know what you see when you go there. You will not see a 1997-1999 Camry with ORIGINAL 110k miles. No Rust. Problem Free and Lagos cleared selling anywhere for N800k. Not when $ was exchanging for N163 (then)

Kunle-A:

Check very well. You probably won't find one with 110k original miles. Petrol prices are going up here. You can't believe what 1997-1999 Camry's are going for these days.

Kunle-A:

You based your argument on hypothetical situation. Believe me, i live that enough here since 1992. Welcome to the real world in Nigeria. I make to APOLOGY for what i did. I WILL DO IT AGAIN WITHOUT BLINKING!

Kunle-A:

When you get away from that keyboard a bit and live in Nigeria, you can contact me and let me know. I will surely be here.

Konnektions146:

i have so much respect for Siena and kunle sounds a pro in his own field as well, de both of yu i guess could do better off as friends or partners than dis happenin.

please yu guys shove these and be pallies.
hope to learn more from yu guys

Dude, I have nothing against Kunle, I think he's one of the good guys. But friend or not, I tell things as I see them, and I believe Kunle does the same. I'd probably even do business with him in the not too distant future, at least I know what I want.

I might even buy him a beer when next I'm in Cali.

Siena:

Dude, I have nothing against Kunle, I think he's one of the good guys. But friend or not, I tell things as I see them, and I believe Kunle does the same. I'd probably even do business with him in the not too distant future, at least I know what I want.

I might even buy him a beer when next I'm in Cali.

Siena:

Dude, I have nothing against Kunle, I think he's one of the good guys. But friend or not, I tell things as I see them, and I believe Kunle does the same. I'd probably even do business with him in the not too distant future, at least I know what I want.

I might even buy him a beer when next I'm in Cali.  

One of the things i don't do is sugarcoat. There is no ambiguity what my position is. There is no point of saying one thing and doing the other but i will always say what i know or believe no matter how unpopular it is.

I can bring in a 1993 Toyota Previa. Its commercial and that is OK.

I can bring in a 1985 Mack Truck. Its OK cos its commercial.

People bring in 2005 Wrecked accord and repair in poorly with no airbag or other safety equipment or sensors. That is fine. Hmmm Think about it.

But there is a problem with a NON-ACCIDENTED 1993 Camry that's fully functional.

As far as exploitation goes, it doesn't matter to the customs/police guy when you are driving tokunbo. HE WANT SOMETHING FROM YOU!

Sienna has been a stable here for a long time. and i know about him quite well. This is a healthy conversation as far as i am concerned. No qualms.

But there is a problem. I DON'T DRINK BEER  

AkoEja:

Until we have a government that can clean up the system, there is nothing an individual can do, more than fight for democracy to get the right leaders into positions.

kunle_A:

Speak all the grammar you want. I will say the same thing a year ago. Please leave your Houston cushy comfort place and go visit Naija for an extended period of time and you will understand.

i2j:

I've had similar experience in Nigeria some years ago during a visit. The problem is that there are not so many people who can be setting such good example. javascript:void(0);