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Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by BlackPikiN(m): 12:49am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Strong indications have emerged that the Federal Government might enlist the services of international intelligence experts in its bid to arrest the raging Boko Haram insurgence in the country. SATURDAY PUNCH investigations showed that the FG was considering the engagement of some United States troops, who are grounded in asymmetric warfare to complement the efforts of Nigerian security operatives. An intelligence source told one of our correspondents on the condition of anonymity that while the FG was exploring several options to deal with Boko Haram’s threat to peace, the security chiefs had not briefed operatives of any such decision to bring in US Marines into the country to assist their Nigerian counterparts. The source stated, however, that there were verbal discussions in security circles about the likelihood of engaging the US Marines in a concerted bid to combat the Boko Haram onslaught, the deadliest of which saw the killing of more than 200 people last week in Kano. It was learnt that the leadership of the nation’s security had not circulated any signal in relation to the coming of the US troops. The source stated, “The issue of the moves being made to bring in US Marines into Nigeria is being discussed in security circles. “But I can tell you that no document relating to that has been circulated though people have been saying that the government is perfecting moves to engage the services of American troops because of the Boko Haram issue. “What I’m not sure is whether the American troops will be coming to join us for combat or they are coming to team up with us in the area of intelligence and monitoring; that is, to play a discreet role. Those are two different things.” On Monday, some prominent personalities from Borno State, who described themselves as Borno Elders and Leaders of Thought, placed an advertorial in a national daily, in which they cautioned the FG on the implication of bringing in US Marines into the country. They advised the FG against engaging the American troops in the fight against Boko Haram on the premise that the nation did not have any defence pact with any country. “We’re very much disturbed by newspaper reports echoed by international media houses and corroborated by certain clandestine statements by some highly-placed persons that American soldiers or Marines would be deployed in Nigeria. “Though we feel that it is false, we hasten to caution that it is very much uncalled for. Since the Vietnam War till date, there has never been anywhere in the world American forces did anything good but destruction…” The statement was signed by Alhaji Shettima Ali Monguno, a former Minister of Internal affairs, on behalf of 20 top Borno elders. Some South-West leaders of thought also kicked against the FG’s move to forge a defence pact with the US as a way of ridding the country of the Boko Haram menace. When our correspondent contacted the Minister of Defence, Dr. Mohammed Bello, on the telephone on Thursday, he said that he was not aware of such a move. However, Bello said that he would find out if it was true or not. He stressed that as the minister of defence, he would be aware if foreign troops were to be deployed in Nigeria to combat the Boko Haram insurrection. “I can tell you categorically that I’m not aware of such a move and I can tell you also that the Nigerian military is not aware too. “It cannot be true, but give me time to find out. I’m not aware of it because troops would not be mobilised to the country without my knowledge,” Bello said. Similarly, the Director Defence Information, Col. Mohammed Yerima, said he was not aware of the planned deployment of American troops in Nigeria. “I’m just hearing this from you. This is a political issue; it is a policy issue, we don’t know anything about it,” Yerima told SATURDAY PUNCH. “I also read it from that advertorial by the Borno elders and I think that is their opinion.” Shortly after the devastating attacks on security formations in Kano on Jan 20, the United States Deputy Assistant Secretary, Mr. William Fitzgerald, said in a critical meeting with the National Security Adviser, Gen. Owoye Azazi, and other FG officials that the Boko Haram insurgence had assumed a different dimension. Fitzgerald said the US government had separated the Niger Delta from the regional security cooperation with the escalation of the Boko Haram activities in the North. In his address, which was widely reported, the US Deputy Assistant Secretary conveyed the readiness of the US to render assistance to Nigeria to restore peace to the troubled North. However, he was not specific on what manner the American intervention in the escalating terrorist attacks in the North would take. “Today marks a new beginning, security issues in the North have taken up a new significance, so we have chosen to split the regional security cooperation and the Niger Delta. The regional security cooperation has its own working group, which will meet today and tomorrow. “I bring on behalf of the US government, the deepest condolences on the heinous attacks that have taken place during the past few days; first in Kano and then Bauchi State. “We deplore swiftly the reign of terror that has existed in the North of the country for many months. And we stand with you to work together to find a way to bring peace to the North,” Fitzgerald said. Meanwhile, investigations showed that the Nigerian Army is undertaking a major troops deployment and movement of equipment in the north-western part of the country in response to the escalating activities of the Boko Haram in the region. Before the Kano attacks, it was the belief in governmental circles that the security agencies had been able to restrict the activities of the Boko Haram to the North-East. That perhaps explains the establishment of the Joint Task Force to focus on security maintenance in the North-East, where Boko Haram was believed to have its root and main operation base. It was learnt that the army authorities had directed the additional deployment of soldiers to secure their barracks and to protect the civil populace from attacks in their areas. The Director of Army Public Relations, Maj.-Gen. Raphael Isah, told one of our correspondents on Thursday that the army was only involved in some restructuring in some formations to curtail the emerging Boko Haram threat in the area. He said that the army had a responsibility to complement the efforts of the police and other security agencies if they were overwhelmed. Isah said, “We’re restructuring our formation around there to cope with the threat. Where more troops and equipment are required, they will be done. “I won’t tell these boys that this is what we want. When the police and other security agencies have been overwhelmed, you expect the soldiers to complement the efforts of such agencies. That is the meaning of internal security operations. “What do you expect when our sister agencies were attacked? It is nothing unusual,” he said. http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-fg-may-engage-us-marines/ |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by BlackPikiN(m): 2:27am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Borno council of elders. The marines are coming for you. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by efisher(m): 2:34am On Jan 28, 2012 |
The americans are welcome. We need them more for intelligence gathering and combat strategy. Boko rams can easily be "ambushed" with the right strategy. Akso, with the right intel, the sponsors of the group can easily be fished out and extinguished. We need to turn on the heat. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by DaRapture: 2:53am On Jan 28, 2012 |
I'll have the SSS investigate those Mullas or chiefs or whatever they call themselves. They sound mighty suspicious to me. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by amaham(m): 3:33am On Jan 28, 2012 |
We don't need de marines,the drones will do |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by DaRapture: 3:40am On Jan 28, 2012 |
amaham: Nope, it doesn't work like that, it's a package deal, either you take it all, or you get nothing. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by amaham(m): 3:45am On Jan 28, 2012 |
@darapture: are there US foot soldiers in somalia fight al-shabaab with de drones parading it's skies? |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by BlackBaron: 4:10am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Quite clearly, our security forces lack that oomph to combat this religious mad crackheads. All the military hardware they've been stockpiling and training received over the years has come to nowt Funny how we claim to have one of the strongest armed forces in Africa yet BH seems to be running rings round them. Now is the time to start set up a Squad in the guile of an Anti-Terrorist unit drilled especially in guerilla warfare,covert operations et al |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by homerac7: 6:58am On Jan 28, 2012 |
I laff at how many people here drool over US military landing, It simply shows poor knowledge. First, US military will only deploy boots on sub Sahara Africa only and if only America security is threatened. They learnt from Somalia and wld never repeat dt mistake. Can someone explain y a US battle group sat offshore Liberia and watched her former colony butcher themselves only to get In an evac high priority individuals only and stay off again until Nigeria got paid to do d dirty job ? Stop day dreaming, all u hav heard do far from america is Jst political talks, if Nigeria falls today, they will persuade Saudi, UAE, Iraq and Brazil to cover up Nigeria's supply deficit and d world goes on while we foolishly keep dieing in millions here. Best is the send down their lates models of CIA drones for field test on our people. Has US marines defeated Taliban in Afghanistan? They r looking to abandon d war while some people here hope same US military will come and start another forever war here in Africa. Y do u think they will do dt ? Do u even realize dt d US is cutting down its troops size by 100,000? What does dt tell u? They aren't planning any major deployments in immediate future. They r also closing bases, yet u expect they will come and open shop in Nigeria. I laff. If u can't secure ur country, then keep ur oil, Libya and Angola alone can cover up ur quota. Lastly, is d US ur father? Must u walk into shackles of colonialism again? When shall we grow up to solve our own problems? Nations r getting independent of bigger nations yet we keep praying and wishing to b able to grovel at feet of almighty America who gives less dn rat arse to us. Something is fundamentally wrong wt Nigerians, honestly. Let's Sri this fooolish "we Christian south against them Muslim north" thing. It's just too stoooopid to think dat way when we all face same dangers. The earlier we accept dt we hav a common enemy, d better our individual chance of survival. We need to evolve beyond ds selfish and bestial thought level. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Rich4god(m): 6:59am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Its a welcomed idea, but to be sincere, we dont need U.S foot soldies in Nigeria, it will only escalate the current problem on ground. The hausa/muslim community hate the Americans and so there presence will end up given boko guys more recruits. IMHO, the best should be the use of drones and also to help in gathering of intelligence, then let our soldiers do the combat. Else, 9ja will end up like Afgan. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by jamace(m): 7:21am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Wrong move! US marines are not better than Nigerian military (The US marines know this). The only defect in the Nigerian military is that they behave like the society they found themselves, society where corruption is honoured and gallantry is mocked. Nigerian leaders should engage US leadership, not marines only because the problems we are facing in Nigeria today are caused by bad leadership. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Atigba: 9:26am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Ohhhhhhhhh?am tired of hearing US will do this US will do that, i want to be seeing US droops deploy to nigerian , we need them before those bastard, BH, wipe out the whole country? |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by JimmyBoy1: 9:40am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Yes we need US support in terms of training on counter-terrorism and intelligence gathering, eqipment, sattelite imageries. But their soldiers should not touch down on our soil. I also don't support drone operations in Nigeria, before you know it they will start blowing up innocent citizens as they have been doing in pakistan |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Rossikk(m): 10:00am On Jan 28, 2012 |
People calling for US troops seriously need to visit Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia, to see the result of US presence. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by na2day(m): 10:02am On Jan 28, 2012 |
homerac! I doff my cap to u for the sanest and the most intelligent reply to the story, @ all the sheep, continue to mastu.rbate to the thought of America, galloping to save ur a.rse, Too bad, it will only happen in ur wet dreams, ask urself honestly, has the marines landed in Syria yet with over 10k dead and still counting, Why not get ur head out of America's arse and concentrate on dealing with the issue at hand intelligently, instead of using crude and archaic way of fire for fire, even the so called Americans are presently in a dialogue with the Taliban, because they are getting to realise that force is worse! |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Nobody: 10:05am On Jan 28, 2012 |
I always knew the Hausas migrated from Afghanistan. Its time for them to denounce terrorism or face the drones |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by tonyx4x44(m): 10:12am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Also we need jack bauer even for only one season loan |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Toktee(m): 10:13am On Jan 28, 2012 |
TO MY OPINION I DONT THINK WE NEED THEM,THEY ARE IN AFGHANISTAN WITH NATO AND OTHER PRIVATE SECURITIES,YET THE TALIBAN ARE WINNING WITH THEIR CASUALTY FIGURE RISING EVERYDAY.one aljazeera reporter even said,"the taliban are one step ahead while the allies forces are 2 steps backward"THEY WERE DEFEATED IN SOMALIA,THEY LOST IN IRAQ,IN PAKISTAN THE STORY IS THE SAME,ALL THE COUNTRIES MENTION ABOVE ARE NOT AS BIG AS NORTHERN NIGERIA.LET JONAH FIGHT CORRUPTION,CREAT JOBS FOR THE YOUTH SO THAT BOKO HALLAM WILL NOT SEE IDLE YOUTH TO RECRUIT. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by dayo23(f): 10:19am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Tired of dis BH menace,I dnt suppport d US military invitation although they wld hv wiped out all those barbaric animals BH, infct dt wld hv bn lyk a trainin for d US marines. I stil think SNC is d best, let evry region goes her way dat all,so those BH cn kip killin their fellow almajiris.Stupid BH |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by na2day(m): 10:34am On Jan 28, 2012 |
All u guys saying the marines will wipe bh out, I think you've all been brainwashed by Hollywood movie industry. The fact is out there, the marines are not better than our army, I'm not canvasing for bh, but the truth is that asymmetric warfare cannot be won by brute force alone, Us involvement in bh insurgency will only make Nigeria a somalia or an Afghanistan, at dat level, the war will no longer be restricted to the north alone, the marines should also bring lots of body bags and you, asking for them, get ready to be part of the collateral damage! |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by musiwa43: 10:36am On Jan 28, 2012 |
I think Boko haram as the nigeria military as part of it. Look Nigeria is at war. there is a civil war already in nigeria. And let me explain why there is danger in all of this. And it is important to remove Edo, delta and Yorubas from Nigeria. You have state in Nigeria producing the same number of military personnal to join the army or airforce or police. Jonathan Goodluck state of bayelsa produce the same number of personal to the army as Oyo state. can you look at the satellite pictures, and ask if this is fair to Oyo state. So do you expect the nigeria army personal who have been cheated to support this. When Oyo state is more than 20 times the population of bayelsa state but the Nigeria law force the people of Oyo state or the western Niger to produce the same number as people they are more than. You are call for for, Boko haram is childplay to what you will see next in Nigeria. You are going to see revolt in the army. army officer may end up joining the people to force for their right. I want to say without no fear of any man, not even the fear of nigeria government. it is an unfair system in the nigeria army, This is what I am fighting for. And I want every God fear person in the army to support me.
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Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by musiwa43: 10:47am On Jan 28, 2012 |
take for example the western niger of Nigeria, which consist of 10 state of kwara, kogi, delta, edo,oyo, osun , ekiti, ogun, lagos and oyo. it has more population than the North niger. You can not classified kwara state or Kogi state as the north. when there are mostly Yoruba. when Bukola saraki wanted to run for president. Then the north remember who was a northerner. You cant replace Obasanjo with bukola saraki or With an Itsekiri man from delta state with a name like Ayo Orisejafor Omatsola. or a Tunde akogun from Edo state, or Yakubu aiyegbeni of Edo state. the rest of Nigeria will not agree. They will claim they are Yorubas. The need to classified where people are from. kwara or kogi state, delta and edo are part of the western Niger. There are only three God given geopolitical zone in Nigeria. Which God use the river Niger and benue to create. Anyone who is creating its own is a bias as unfair person who want injustice to other to continue. It tell you that person is not a fair person and should not be elected into office. we have had a situation when Yar adua from the North niger rule, Jonathan Goodluck from the eastern Niger is ruling, and we would have problem if After Jonathan Goodluck the western niger is not allowed to take over from him, the satelllite pictures shows that that western niger is more populated than the North niger.
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Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by ocelot2006(m): 10:55am On Jan 28, 2012 |
Another clear example of garbage journalism without any form of research. If those fools at Punch had done their research well, they shouldve known that the USMC will definitely not be used. Rather, the US government may decide to offer more training in counter-insurgency and counter-terror operations to Nigerian Army, or deploy the Special Forces Operation Detachment Alpha (ODA)/Green Berets, a Tier 2 special Ops unit specifically trained for COIN and CT Ops. The detachment deployed will only serve as military instructor only. However, I'm sure the CIA and possibly NRO, will provide the FG with intelligence reports |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 28, 2012 |
musiwa,,.: am not trying to get into ur hair but why should you remove Edo, Delta and Oyo from Nigeria? If I remember correctly it was only Eastern Nigeria that wanted to opt out of this union, and am sure Edo, Oyo and other ganged up with the BH to forcefully keep them back. Now there is fire on the mountain you want out and to leave those whom made their intend clear long time ago to stay in the sinking ship while you take a walk. In as much as I understand your pain and the point you are trying to make, I think it is good that all that fought to keep this failed nation together are feeling heat. If only you guys had allowed the easterners to quietly walk away am sure whatever union the west and south may have formed then would also have experience what Nigerians are experiencing today. The bottom line is these BH people can not live with other people they are better off by themselves. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by musiwa43: 11:14am On Jan 28, 2012 |
the western niger also wanted out of nigeria |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Nobody: 11:27am On Jan 28, 2012 |
musiwa,,.: If they actually wanted out what was there reason for taking side with the BH guys during the civil war? Maybe there is another side to the whole civil war gist which am not aware of, without any prejudice I would like you to share such info if there is any. Thanks |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by kulutempa: 11:46am On Jan 28, 2012 |
If this story is true, our leaders are even more stupid than I thought. If Nigeria invites a foreign power to fight an enemy on her territory, we might as well sign away our independence. Are these the same people who go to the UN and warn Western powers against interfering with the "sovereignty and territorial integrity of African countries? Have you ever heard of Israel, surrounded by hostile countries as she is, asking for American troops to come and fight on her behalf? Once you start inviting a man to come and kill a snake in your house, don't be surprised if he starts trying to sleep with your daughter |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by maclatunji: 12:10pm On Jan 28, 2012 |
If we are going to bring US Marines to fight for Nigeria, we should also get the US President to be President of Nigeria. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by lovejo(m): 12:27pm On Jan 28, 2012 |
amaham: Somalia and Djibouti is equally same country with bother separating them and US has military base in Djibouti. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by Gbawe: 12:42pm On Jan 28, 2012 |
@Homerac7. I applaud your contribution here. It always amazes me how Nigerians, including very well-educated ones, can show a disconnection with reality that reveals a bastardized mentality even the most comprehensive education cannot reform. What tough decisions have we demanded to be implemented before we back this madness that will turn our Nation into Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia et al perhaps for a very long time? Are we uncompromisingly insistent on an SNC so , if we must, all can seperate and those who treasure killing innocent folks can do so within their own borders if others will not challenge them to stop doing so? Have we demanded the resignation of a C-in-C and the team he has convened that , clearly, are not up to the task? Have we seriously clamoured for a model of Governance conferring more powers to regions so some, if they wish, and if moderates folks will not stop them, can turn their region into a theatre of religious extremism and mindless butchering of "unbelievers" and "enemies"? Have we demanded, in a united voice, for fiscal federalism, better resource control and the immediate weakening of the centre in favour of the States and regions so that the political desperation aiding Boko Haram, because of the lust for the loot at the centre, can diminish drastically? Afterall, if the FG is essentially only a supervisor dispensing virtually everything to States and region, The Presidency and other erstwhile desirable federal positions becomes insipid and unappealing. There is so much more we have not bothered to do , as would be expected of a mature and serious people able to lead for themselves and produce appropriate solutions, yet we are comfortable asking for Military assistance from the USA as if that concept has left many Nations better off. Even the deployment of drones is controversial because of the argument it should be used in an environment of war , within the confines of regulatory law governing conflict, yet America deploys them otherwise to aid its age-long agenda of crude assasination that , historically, has not spared many African leaders who could perhaps have made a difference today. Drones deployed in Nigeria simply means , as adults, we have derelicted our own duties of self-rule to make the USA the executioners of Nigerians - guilty or innocent. How will the deployment of drones not radicalise even the most moderate Northerner? I personally don't see things ending well because events recently , and the attendant responses, show that Nigerians are simply not capable of doing what is simple and effective to tackle festering problem that may destroy our Nation. We would rather, like children unaware of the consequence of actions, suggests sledgehammer versus fly approach that will change our nation for good and ensure we can never go back to sanity. http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/pakistan/110822/drone-wars-legal-law-pakistan-yemen-al-qaeda Drone Wars: Is it legal? |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by juman(m): 1:49pm On Jan 28, 2012 |
I don't think so. This is election year in America. |
Re: Boko Haram: Fg May Engage Us Marines! by homerac7: 2:09pm On Jan 28, 2012 |
@ na2day & Gbawe i thank una jare! its becoming painful to see many people here just furiously type away at their keyboards only to insult common sense at end of day. it has got to an all time low from my observation and i am constantly between anger and laughter at such depth of intelligence. its no wonder we hav GEJ as our president and Patience as first lady, afterall popular opinion as observed here cant justify that we deserve better. every matter to them must end in division, war, willful submission to colonialization, and other very awkward lines of thought. it gets worse when it comes to my kinsmen from SE on ds forum, their opinion on this forum of recent are mostly shameful, selfish and myopic. they forget that what comes around goes around. todat we have a good neighbour as president, so we villify and deride the northerners, what happens when d northerner comes to rule in immediate future? wont our foolishness hav nailed us already? then we start whinning again, isnt it? i'm sure some of them still think that no northerner is electable presently. only true in a foolish mind. |
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