^
Everything you have said about Mata, the only thing you can defend is his two goals.

You are yet to defend his supposed plenty chances created.
You yet to defend his forward passes to strikers vis-à-vis to midfielders and defenders.

Yesterday RVP was passing long balls backward. Mata got bullied off a ball like an indomie Japanese kid. I couldn't even see him in the game.

Fussbot: Seriously?nobody is complaining about de gea?

Any ball that goes towards him is a goal!smh

For what? When Rooney should have parked the bus from 1st minute? A reasonable captain should have parked the bus to earn a point with a 0-0 score.



Since Olympiokos game, DDG has not made a great save. I have never seen him stopped a penalty. May be Rooney is affecting him.


Blame Rooney for all United failings for he earns £300k. Sentiments everywhere.

coogar:
The last article summed it well - rooney's indecision on where to play is a sign that he's aware of his own decline.

So what is LVG's job again? What are his remit as the manager of MUFC?
So Rooney tells LVG where he wants to play or LVG plays him in a position deemed suitable to produce the goods for MUFC?
Decline? Why are you laying so much emphasis on Rooney when RVP has done fu..ck all this season?
Which football player is not aware of or immune to the inevitable as they grow older?

I am still yet to see any tangible reason why Rooney should be made the scapegoat in that MUFC forward line....... you need more people Coogs!

elampiro: ^
Everything you have said about Mata, the only thing you can defend is his two goals.

You are yet to defend his supposed plenty chances created.
You yet to defend his forward passes to strikers vis-à-vis to midfielders and defenders.

Yesterday RVP was passing long balls backward. Mata got bullied off a ball like an indomie Japanese kid. I couldn't even see him in the game.

buhahahaha - even a termite knows mata has outperformed rooney in the hole. in every meaningful statistic measured for the player in the hole, mata beat rooney hands down.

see for yourself......total forward passing, successful passes, error leading to goal, average pass length, key passes, chance created, etc. even if you are deluded, the media & statistics aren't.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1725128_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

ElFenomeno1:
So what is LVG's job again? What are his remit as the manager of MUFC?
So Rooney tells LVG where he wants to play or LVG plays him in a position deemed suitable to produce the goods for MUFC?
Decline? Why are you laying so much emphasis on Rooney when RVP has done fu..ck all this season?
Which football player is not aware of or immune to the inevitable as they grow older?

I am still yet to see any tangible reason why Rooney should be made the scapegoat in that MUFC forward line....... you need more people Coogs!

it seems you are at sea with this argument. RVP & falcao are the 2 main strikers in the diamond formation that van gaal wants to play. rooney is in direct competition with mata. like the article said, mata should be starting ahead of rooney & dropping rooney will not affect united at this stage. he earns £300k/week and he's miles below intelligent midfielders like cesc or silva.

see the difference.......

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1725186_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

coogar:

it seems you are at sea with this argument. RVP & falcao are the 2 main strikers in the diamond formation that van gaal wants to play. rooney is in direct competition with mata. like the article said, mata should be starting ahead of rooney & dropping rooney will not affect united at this stage. he earns £300k/week and he's miles below intelligent midfielders like cesc or silva.

see the difference.......

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1725186_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

So ask yourself this question, why is LVG playing Rooney ahead of Mata?

I am sure LVG has those stats at his disposal............

You are already sounding like a broken record with this 300k issue..... Drop it please!

Rooney is not an out and out playmaker, so comparing him to Cesc and Silva is flawed as those two are playmakers!

ElFenomeno1:

So ask yourself this question, why is LVG playing Rooney ahead of Mata?

I am sure LVG has those stats at his disposal............

You are already sounding like a broken record with this 300k issue..... Drop it please!

Rooney is not an out and out playmaker, so comparing him to Cesc and Silva is flawed as those two are playmakers!

he's playing rooney because rooney is a captain. he said it himself that the reason rooney is featuring isn't because he's better than the benched players, rooney plays solely because he's s captain. so regardless of rooney's appalling performance, he must play rooney.

if rooney isn't an out & out playmaker, what then is rooney's role? when RVP was bought, rooney was moaning like a bítch he wants to play as a striker. when falcao arrived, rooney went to LVG to say he wants to play in the hole. which is which for rooney? as a centre forward, he's never won a golden boot in his 11-year career playing for a successful club like united. he's never topped the assist chart in any season as well. so what exactly is rooney good at?

Fussbot: Seriously?nobody is complaining about de gea?

Any ball that goes towards him is a goal!smh

Some fans will never cease to amaze me. Even trying to make DDG the scapegoat.

chrisley024: Some fans will never cease to amaze me. Even trying to make DDG the scapegoat.

i am surprised they haven't blamed cleverley & young for this loss.

elampiro:

For what? When Rooney should have parked the bus from 1st minute? A reasonable captain should have parked the bus to earn a point with a 0-0 score.



Since Olympiokos game, DDG has not made a great save. I have never seen him stopped a penalty. May be Rooney is affecting him.


Blame Rooney for all United failings for he earns £300k. Sentiments everywhere.

Better face your Rooney issue with coogar than to try and shift it to DDG.

Maybe you tell us the last time your best GK made a great save or saved a penalty.

coogar:

buhahahaha - even a termite knows mata has outperformed rooney in the hole. in every meaningful statistic measured for the player in the hole, mata beat rooney hands down.

see for yourself......total forward passing, successful passes, error leading to goal, average pass length, key passes, chance created, etc. even if you are deluded, the media & statistics aren't.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1725128_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

You have just destroyed yourself.

* Mata makes 52 passes from the hole. Rooney made 71

* Mata % forward pass from the hole is 22%. 78% are back/side passes.

* Mata makes only 48 successful pass from the hole, Rooney made 59 successful passes yesterday.

* Key passes: Mata has one per match. Rooney made 2 key passes yesterday.

* Rooney has more percentage forward passes than Mata in the hole.

* Rooney has one assist per match from the hole.






The only good thing for you here is Mata's goals and his pass accuracy. Rooney beast him in all the other dozen stats.









How market?

elampiro:
You have just destroyed yourself.

* Mata makes 52 passes from the hole. Rooney made 71

* Mata % forward pass from the hole is 22%. 78% are back/side passes.

* Mata makes only 48 successful pass from the hole, Rooney made 59 successful passes yesterday.

* Key passes: Mata has one per match. Rooney made 2 key passes yesterday.

* Rooney has more percentage forward passes than Mata in the hole.

* Rooney has one assist per match from the hole.

The only good thing for you here is Mata's goals and his pass accuracy. Rooney beast him in all the other dozen stats.

How market?

this has to be some sort of foolishness.....
that's the statistic of both players for united this season. mata destroyed rooney in every parameter measured.

you must have zero knowledge about statistics to be comparing rooney's one game(small sample size) to mata's 5-game period. everywhere you look, mata is rooney's father in midfield roles.

wayne rooney is finished!!!!

coogar:

he's playing rooney because rooney is a captain. he said it himself that the reason rooney is featuring isn't because he's better than the benched players, rooney plays solely because he's s captain. so regardless of rooney's appalling performance, he must play rooney.

if rooney isn't an out & out playmaker, what then is rooney's role? when RVP was bought, rooney was moaning like a bítch he wants to play as a striker. when falcao arrived, rooney went to LVG to say he wants to play in the hole. which is which for rooney? as a centre forward, he's never won a golden boot in his 11-year career playing for a successful club like united. he's never topped the assist chart in any season as well. so what exactly is rooney good at?

It doesnt make sense.... why would a manager desperate for a good run of results play someone who is not better than what is on the bench?!

I am beginning to think you have something personal with Wayne. LOL

Double post.

coogar:

this has to be some sort of foolishness.....
that's the statistic of both players for united this season. mata destroyed rooney in every parameter measured.

you must have zero knowledge about statistics to be comparing rooney's one game(small sample size) to mata's 5-game period. everywhere you look, mata is rooney's father in midfield roles.

wayne rooney is finished!!!!

Coogar You have failed woefully. You 'checkmated' yourself. Why has thy decided to dance naked in the market square?

That comparison up there is Rooney average in the hole vs Mata's average in the hole.



* You may wish to do a separate comparison of Rooney vs RVP stats in the striking position. Attacking stats and midfield stats aren't the same. Like for likes, aples and oranges.

elampiro:
Coogar You have failed woefully. You 'checkmated' yourself. Why has thy decided to dance naked in the market square?

That comparison up there is Rooney average in the hole vs Mata's average in the hole.

you are a dolt!
there's a reason most pundits want rooney out of the team. when mata played in the hole against QPR, we won 4-0 convincingly with the new players. when rooney played in the hole against leicester, we lost woefully, 3-5 with the new players.

there's no hiding place any longer. before now, the scapegoats were nani, young, cleverley, anderson & fellaini. rooney has been fully exposed, his mediocrity has been laid barë. even the media that used to protect english players are now speaking out that rooney is the black sheep in the team.

* You may wish to do a separate comparison of Rooney vs RVP stats in the striking position.

mata has killed rooney in every statistic measured. football is fluid - a player's position should not affect passing accuracy, forward passes, key passes, created chances, etc. what's rooney's excuse for this woeful performance?

since you are a rooney-lover, kindly check if he's not suffering from hernia.

ElFenomeno1:

It doesnt make sense.... why would a manager desperate for a good run of results play someone who is not better than what is on the bench?!

he's already said his captain must always play. i dunno why you are sounding like a broken record. rooney is the captain & by that virtue he must play. it's not performance-related.

I am beginning to think you have something personal with Wayne. LOL

i have something personal with the enemies of united's progress. how are we even sure the scousers didn't plant rooney at old trafford to slow down our title haul?

each time rooney has been made the main man, we have lost the league title. van gaal is tethering along that line too & the results have been horrible. we only win league titles when rooney is given a peripheral role.

coogar:

you are a dolt!
there's a reason most pundits want rooney out of the team. when mata played in the hole against QPR, we won 4-0 convincingly with the new players. when rooney played in the hole against leicester, we lost woefully, 3-5 with the new players.

there's no hiding place any longer. before now, the scapegoats were nani, young, cleverley, anderson & fellaini. rooney has been fully exposed, his mediocrity has been laid barë. even the media that used to protect english players are now speaking out that rooney is the black sheep in the team.




mata has killed rooney in every statistic measured. football is fluid - a player's position should not affect passing accuracy, forward passes, key passes, created chances, etc. what's rooney's excuse for this woeful performance?

since you are a rooney-lover, kindly check if he's not suffering from hernia.

Mr Tortoise has now tortoised himself. Now Mr. Tortoise wants to change the line of argument. Don't worry very soon we shall visit this your line of argument. But for now cover up yourself with some clothes. Children are watching in the market square.

elampiro:

Mr Tortoise has now tortoised himself. Now Mr. Tortoise wants to change the line of argument. Don't worry very soon we shall visit this your line of argument. But for now cover up yourself with some clothes. Children are watching in the market square.

you are the one that needs to be clothed - you were lying to everyone here yesterday that rooney gave an excellent performance.....2 good articles & statistical evidence proved you were lying about rooney's performance.

mata in the hole alongside blind & herrera got us a clean sheet in the last game. rooney in the hole alongside blind & herrera lost woefully to leicester. the common denominator here is obvious - rooney is the black fat sheep.

^
We all saw the game and the stats speak for Rooney. Your 'Chelsea Reject' doesn't match it.

I am waiting for the next. RVP's average stats vs Rooney's.

But wait o. You always delete part of the stat don't favour you. Yesterday you deleted Rooney's forward passes like he didn't have any, except to Falcao. Ojoro Coogar.

elampiro: ^
We all saw the game and the starts speaks for Rooney. Your Chelsea reject doesn't match it.
I am waiting for the next. RVP's average stats vs Rooney's.

maybe you have a problem with words.
let's take it to arithmetic....

blind + di maria + herrera + mata = win
blind + di maria + herrera + rooney = loss

from the 2 equations, who is the black sheep? if you dunno the answer, ask the kids in your area to spot the difference.

But wait o. You always delete part of the stat don't favour you. Yesterday you deleted Rooney's forward passes like he didn't have any, except to Falcao. Ojoro Coogar.

stop embarrassing yourself.....
i highlighted the fact that rooney's role in the hole was worthless as he could only pass twice to falcao in 70 mins & none to RVP in 90 mins.

rooney's forward passes? that's like asking if it snows in chibok. it's easier to make the kingdom of heaven than to see rooney making a forward meaningful pass.

his specialty is long range passing to the wing.....stretching the diamond formation & letting opponents exploit the holes in between. SAF already pointed out rooney is a retârd(a slow learner) so it's not surprising he endangers the diamond formation.

coogar:
i have something personal with the enemies of united's progress. how are we even sure the scousers didn't plant rooney at old trafford to slow down our title haul?
each time rooney has been made the main man, we have lost the league title. van gaal is tethering along that line too & the results have been horrible. we only win league titles when rooney is given a peripheral role.

We will continue this Rooney issue over the weekend.

coogar:

maybe you have a problem with words.
let's take it to arithmetic....

blind + di maria + herrera + mata = win
blind + di maria + herrera + rooney = loss

from the 2 equations, who is the black sheep? if you dunno the answer, ask the kids in your area to spot the difference.

Goal post/line of argument shifted. We shall revisit this soon. Hope you know we lost Evans in defence too?

coogar:



stop embarrassing yourself.....
i highlighted the fact that rooney's role in the hole was worthless as he could only pass twice to falcao in 70 mins & none to RVP in 90 mins.

rooney's forward passes? that's like asking if it snows in chibok. it's easier to make the kingdom of heaven than to see rooney making a forward meaningful pass.

his specialty is long range passing to the wing.....stretching the diamond formation & letting opponents exploit the holes in between. SAF already pointed out rooney is a retârd(a slow learner) so it's not surprising he endangers the diamond formation.

Why did you not publish Di Maria along at first? You were hiding the fact Rooney had two key passes as against Mata's usual 1 key pass.

elampiro:
Goal post/line of argument shifted. We shall revisit this soon. Hope you know we lost Evans in defence too?

what has evans gotta do with it? we are talking about creativity, you are talking about evans. why don't you blame vidic's absence for the loss then?

Why did you not publish Di Maria along at first? You were hiding the fact Rooney had two key passes as against Mata's usual 1 key pass.

because rooney was ahead of di maria - what's the point discussing rooney's backward passes to di maria? we are interested in the supply rooney gave to the strikers ahead of him & he failed woefully.

rooney in 90 mins gave no pass to RVP & made only 2 passes to falcao.

do you want to know how many passes mata gave to the strikers ahead of him against QPR? he played only 67 mins & he made 7 passes(more than thrice what rooney made).

that's what we need - not the useless rooney.

coogar:

what has evans gotta do with it? we are talking about creativity, you are talking about evans. why don't you blame vidic's absence for the loss then?



because rooney was ahead of di maria - what's the point discussing rooney's backward passes to di maria? we are interested in the supply rooney gave to the strikers ahead of him & he failed woefully.

rooney in 90 mins gave no pass to RVP & made only 2 passes to falcao.

do you want to know how many passes mata gave to the strikers ahead of him against QPR? he played only 67 mins & he made 7 passes(more than thrice what rooney made).

that's what we need - not the useless rooney.

* You mean Mata gave 7 useless passes? Rooney gave an assist and got his second hit the bar via Falcao.

* Evans was our leader at the back and plays the ball out of the defence better. With him we were more organized at the back, bar the goal. We could never had conceded 3 goals with Evans playing 90 mins. Had RVp not misfiring it could have been 6-1.

Rooney did outstandingly well.

elampiro:

You have just destroyed yourself.

* Mata makes 52 passes from the hole. Rooney made 71

* Mata % forward pass from the hole is 22%. 78% are back/side passes.

* Mata makes only 48 successful pass from the hole, Rooney made 59 successful passes yesterday.

* Key passes: Mata has one per match. Rooney made 2 key passes yesterday.

* Rooney has more percentage forward passes than Mata in the hole.

* Rooney has one assist per match from the hole.






The only good thing for you here is Mata's goals and his pass accuracy. Rooney beast him in all the other dozen stats.









How market?

This is Rooney's report card from the hole. Anything else you gat to say is useless. Rooney is not a defender to have prevented those goals. The match was a difficult away fixture yet we could have won 6-1 so easily.

elampiro:
* You mean Mata gave 7 useless passes? Rooney gave an assist and got his second hit the bar via Falcao.

how were they useless? we scored 4 good goals, kept a clean sheet and got 3 points. i would rather have mata's 7 useless passes that give us 3 points than rooney's scanty, misguided passes that give us 0 point.

* Evans was our leader at the back and plays the ball out of the defence better. With him we were more organized at the back, bar the goal. We could never had conceded 3 goals with Evans playing 90 mins.

the evans we all wanted out of the squad after his disgraceful performance? if we had evans, it could have been 8-2. how would evans have stopped any of the goals conceded?

who was the lunatic in charge of the defence when we lost to MK dons? surely, it's not johnny evans. johnny evans is a leader at the back with outstanding defence qualities & yet a non-league side pulverised his defence 4 times.

evans is the new baresi.

elampiro:
This is Rooney's report card from the hole. Anything else you gat to say is useless. Rooney is not a defender to have prevented those goals. The match was a difficult away fixture yet we could have won 6-1 so easily.

when you get home tonight, ask your wife to boil plenty of water to pacify the body blows & the haymakers i have thrown at your face.

if you are not convinced rooney is useless to the diamond formation after the statistical evidence that says so then there's no point taking this any further.

just stay out of my way when i criticise rooney. do not quote me & then tell me you don't want to argue pages. wayne rooney is not your name so when i fire shots at rooney, don't use that as a flimsy excuse to quote me.

have a nice day!

coogar:

when you get home tonight, ask your wife to boil plenty of water to pacify the body blows & the haymakers i have thrown at your face.

if you are not convinced rooney is useless to the diamond formation after the statistical evidence that says so then there's no point taking this any further.

just stay out of my way when i criticise rooney. do not quote me & then tell me you don't want to argue pages. wayne rooney is not your name so when i fire shots at rooney, don't use that as a flimsy excuse to quote me.

have a nice day!

It will take you.5 days to recover from the super volcano that erupted on you today.

I empathize with you. Recover quickly.

LOL
I think Seun has to start paying Coogar and Elampiro This their never ending argument must be time consuming and labor intensive

how good is ronaldo??

this is the best header i have seen in the last 10 years. the height he was able to reach before glancing the ball into the net defies gravity.

afrodoc2: LOL
I think Seun has to start paying Coogar and Elampiro This their never ending argument must be time consuming and labor intensive

No be small thing oo

Their conclusion is that elampiro shouldn't be Rooney's shield when coogar is firing his shots. smh