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US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 11:08am On Feb 15, 2012
Stone became a Shia Muslim and chose to be known by the Muslim first name Ali as announced at the ceremony held in the Iranian historical city of Isfahan on February 14.

"The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with,” Stone said.

“It means I have accepted Mohammad (PBUH) and other prophets," he added in a brief telephone call.

Born to a Jewish father and Christian mother, Stone did not say why he converted to Islam.

Stone who visited Iran several months ago said he needed to know more about Persian culture and civilization and become familiar with Iranian traditions and rituals.

Stone referred to Iran as one of Asia's major filmmaking centers saying that he “would like to introduce Persian culture and civilization to the West.”

The 27-year-old filmmaker is a graduate of history from Princeton University and has collaborated on many of his father's projects such as the 2004 Alexander. He has also directed a handful of documentaries.

Sean is not the first renowned celebrity who has converted to Islam. The English singer and songwriter Cat Stevens converted to Islam in 1977 and adopted the name Yusaf Islam.

The prominent boxer Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr.) also converted to Islam in 1964.


American actor and documentary filmmaker Sean Stone, son of Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone, converted to Islam during a religious ceremony in Iran.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/226718.html
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 11:12am On Feb 15, 2012
Sean Stone is the son of American film producer,actor and Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Judek2(m): 1:32pm On Feb 15, 2012
No alleged convert ever wanna say why he converted?

Anyways, no foul thoughts, as our faces are different,so is our opinions. A big goodluck to him. smiley
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Pastor Kun(m): 1:48pm On Feb 15, 2012
Poor confused soul. He probably 'converted' to gain acceptance with the fundermentalist iranians and facilitate his business dealings with them.

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Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Joagbaje(m): 1:54pm On Feb 15, 2012
He was not born again. He was just born into a religious family.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by dare2think: 1:57pm On Feb 15, 2012
Pastor Kun:

Poor confused soul. He probably 'converted' to gain acceptance with the fundermentalist iranians and facilitate his business dealings with them.


C'mon Mr Kun, I really doubt that.

He probably found something he identifies with in the religion. A lot of Muslims have converted to Christianity too. As humans, some inevitably, get fed up with the norms of their society and venture out.

Same happens with all faiths.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 2:23pm On Feb 15, 2012
well,the christian can whine and moan all they like.the reality is the story is genuine and not a fabricated one.whether you agree with his change of religion or not is not a problem.but at least this story should serve christians a lesson not to lie.we saw two fabricated christian missionary stories recently about one "abdullah al-sabah" and one "paul ado bayero".both men's fathers are unknown and both families do not know of those individuals.even examining their stories would make one laugh or may be throw-up.so,in this honest and authentic story about Sean Stone,the christians should learn honesty from muslims and stop forging and making up stories about muslims becoming christians.i dont deny that one could find muslims becoming christians,but at least report the genuine ones and not the drama-filled fabricated ones that are beyond ridiculous.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 2:24pm On Feb 15, 2012
i think the nairaland moderator should be even handed and post this story on the front page.the two fabricated stories about "abdullah al sabah" and "paul ado bayero" made it to the front page.

i see it fair and just for this story to be on the front page.it also involves a celebrity.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by reloboy(m): 2:48pm On Feb 15, 2012
LagosShia:

i think the nairaland moderator should be even handed and post this story on the front page.the two fabricated stories about "abdullah al sabah" and "paul ado bayero" made it to the front page.

i see it fair and just for this story to be on the front page.it also involves a celebrity.
Thank God he found his way to the right path and that's true this topic should be on the front page
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Zhul-fiqar: 3:04pm On Feb 15, 2012
Alhamdulillah. smiley

front page please!
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Judek2(m): 3:33pm On Feb 15, 2012
Muhahahaha. grin grin
Yeah, a man who became a pagan should be posted in the front page too.

Dellusion. Maybe the front page should be changed to change of faith page. There are many testemonies of Christ vision by sinners,blinded people (especially muslims) which really needs to be shared in the front page for moral and spiritual growth,and not a blind story with no spiritual impact.

Ask why he converted, he wont say, or cant say publicly. Maybe he did for some monetory advantages in an Islamic land.
I hope the business works for him though. grin
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Martian(m): 3:49pm On Feb 15, 2012
Excluding Dare2Think.

The rest of you a$$clowns, how many of you knew who the hell Sean Stone was 24hrs ago? Now one faction wants to celebrate his conversion while the other faction decries it. Real stories or made up, why do Nigerians give a f#ck if some obscure hollywood "celebrity" adopts a faith. You people put the wrong people on a pedestal. Most celebrities are eccentric and over privileged dweebs so why rejoice over a mundane choice made by one them when "regular" people make the same freaking decisions everyday.

Let put madonna on the front page too because she's "so deep" with the Kabalah and while we are at it, let's celebrate Tom Cruise and Scientology.
Sean Stone ko, Chris Rock ni.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 11:14pm On Feb 15, 2012
Judek2:

Ask why he converted, he wont say, or cant say publicly. Maybe he did for some monetory advantages in an Islamic land.
I hope the business works for him though. grin

as an igbo man,i am not surprise by your thinking.

this man isnt an igbo man (with all due respect) and he isnt poor.also he is well learned.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Nobody: 10:01am On Feb 16, 2012
'A celebrity converted to my religion, therefore my religion is the true one' argument
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 10:46am On Feb 16, 2012
phxc:

'A celebrity converted to my religion, therefore my religion is the true one' argument

wrong!
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 4:56pm On Feb 16, 2012
WATCH below as Sean Ali Stone recites the Muslim declaration of faith known as the "SHAHADATAIN" in the Iranian city of Isfahan:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZAWyElDgSc
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 9:20pm On Feb 16, 2012
Oliver Stone's son converts to Islam in Iran

By JPOST.COM STAFF 02/15/2012 18:17
Sean Stone, a film director like his acclaimed father, says "the conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism."



By REUTERS

Sean Stone, the son of acclaimed film director Oliver Stone converted to Islam in Iran on Tuesday in a ceremony in the city of Isfahan.

Stone, a filmmaker like his Oscar-winning father, told AFP that "the conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with. It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets."

The 27-year-old, whose father is Jewish and whose mother is Christian is in Iran filming a documentary.

Iranian media reported that Stone converted to Shi'ite Islam and has changed his first name to Ali.

According to the Tehran Times, Stone traveled to Iran in September to search for locations on a film he was shooting on the poet Rumi and Persian mysticism. The Times quoted Stone as saying that he needed to study Persian culture in order to get a feeling for its rituals and traditions.

Earlier this month, Stone was a participant in the Hollywoodism and Cinema conference in Tehran, where he was honored by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Sean's father Oliver ruffled feathers in July 2010 when he gave an interview to Britain's Sunday Times in which he downplayed the Holocaust, defended Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and complained about Jewish influence in the United States.

He told the newspaper that “Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 million.” He discussed what he called “Jewish domination of the media,” and said Israel had “f***** up United States foreign policy for years.”

Stone later apologized for the comments after being criticized by Jewish groups, including the Anti-Defamation League.

http://www.jpost.com/ArtsAndCulture/Entertainment/Article.aspx?id=257964
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 9:27pm On Feb 16, 2012
Oliver Stone's Son, Defender of Ahmadinejad, Converts to Islam

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/14/idUS8993355320120214

By Tim Molloy at TheWrap

Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:30pm EST

Sean Stone, the son of Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone son and a defender of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, converted to Islam on Tuesday while filming a documentary in Iran, he told Agence France Presse.

"The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with. It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets," Stone, whose famous father is Jewish and mother is Christian, told AFP. He underwent the ceremony in the city of Isfahan.

Also read: Sean Stone Says Iran Has the Right to Nuclear Weapons

The 27-year-old did not say why he converted. Iran's Fars news agency said he had become a Shiite and taken the Muslim first name Ali.

In an interview with TheWrap at the Toronto Film Festival in September, he supported Iran’s right to a nuclear program as a defense against threats from Israel. He said criticizing the Iranian government is “like someone coming to your house and saying the father shouldn’t hit the kids,” he said. “Who are we to tell them how to rule their country?”

“Iran is ruled by law,” said Stone (pictured with coproducer Melissa Carter in Tehran). “People don’t like Ahmadinejad, but that doesn’t warrant a war or an uprising.”

Stone, who studied history at Princeton, has launched a co-production company to make movies based on Iranian history and culture. He said in September that he wants to make films in Iran, “because they’re the biggest filmmakers in the Middle East, I’m very international-minded."

His father has also happily taken political positions often seen as outside the American mainstream, by defending Cuban leader Fidel Castro and anti-American Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez.

Besides directing, Stone has acted in several films, including his father's. His small roles in Oliver Stone films included a fraternity pledge in "W" and the young Jim Morrison in "The Doors."
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Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by Martian(m): 9:34pm On Feb 16, 2012
LagosShia:

WATCH below as Sean Ali Stone recites the Muslim declaration of faith known as the "SHAHADATAIN"

Then he ate PLANTAIN
While Chilling with Olu MAINTAIN
They talked about the football skills of Jus FONTAINE
Then they had a drink from the water FOUNTAIN
They climbed the tallest MOUNTAIN
And lamented Allah's hard BARGAIN
Then they said, that guy LagosShia is INSANE.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 9:38pm On Feb 16, 2012
Judek2:

No alleged convert ever wanna say why he converted?

Judek,i hope the below serves you right:


Islam, religion of justice, equality: Sean Stone



Isfahan, Feb 15, IRNA – Sean Stone, son of American Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone, said on Wednesday that Islam is the religion of justice and equality.
1390/11/27 - 05:23

Sean, who has converted to Islam in Isfahan and selected the name of Ali for himself at the age of 27, said that the Islamic teachings can help the western communities including the United States resolve the problems facing them.

He told IRNA in an exclusive interview that the capitalist governing system in the West and the US has created numerous problems for humanity.

The capitalist system governing the western communities is void of spirituality, thus increasing the sufferings of the mankind, he said.

He said that the people have displayed indignation over the current capitalist and liberal governing system in the form of protests they hold systematically in the western communities.

'Unfortunately, those displaying grievances over the injustice imposed by the capitalist and liberal governing system in the worldwide Occupy protests are not aware that they would not achieve their goals in the absence divine religions and Islam as well,' Sean said.

Asked to comment on how he converted to Islam, Sean said that he was born to a family whose father was a Christian and mother a Jew, so that it was very easy for him to accept Great Prophet of Islam Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him).

'I've studied history and my study of the Islamic teachings helped me understand that Islam can lead the humanity to happiness.'

Ali (Sean) said that his studies of Islam helped him realize that Islam gets the human being closer to God and he gets spiritual attitude whenever he goes to mosque.

Ali, who is on a visit to Isfahan to work on a documentary film, said that he was pleased to see that the Christian and Jewish people and followers of other religions are living in Isfahan with equal citizenship rights.

Sean Stone said that contrary to anti-Iran propaganda campaign of the West and US media, followers of all religions enjoy equal rights in Iran.

'I ask the reporters and artists of the western countries, whose governments accuse Iran of imposing restrictions on followers of other religions, to come to Iran and see for temselves freedom of religions in Iran and not to be impressed by the political attitudes of their governments towards Iran.'

He said that he held meetings with Christian and Jewish people in Isfahan and followers of Zoroaster and understood that they live in full peace and equality in Iranian community.

Sean, the director of documentary films, converted to Islam in presence of Ayatollah Mohammad Nasseri in Isfahan at the residence of the religious leader.

http://www.irna.ir/News/Politic/Islam,-religion-of-justice,-equality,-Sean-Stone/30819788

Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by brentkruge: 10:15pm On Feb 16, 2012
LOL   grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

The man is lucky to be from the free world and  that his conversion is not the other way round. Else he would have been chased to the ends of the earth for his head! Many here (US) will just shrug their shoulders and wish him luck.

"Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal intimate intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17

"Whoever changed his (Islamic) religion, then kill him" Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:84:57



15 Ex-Muslim Christians were incarcerated on May 15, 2008 under charges of apostasy. They may face the death penalty if convicted. A new penal code is being proposed in Iran that would require the death penalty in cases of Apostasy on the Internet.

Youcef Nadarkhani is an Iranian Christian pastor who has been sentenced to death for apostasy.

Bahá'ís in Iran, the nation of origin of the Bahá'í Faith and Iran's largest religious minority, were accused of apostasy in the 19th century by the Shi'a clergy because of their claim to a valid religious revelation subsequent to that of Muhammad. These allegations led to mob attacks, public executions and torture of early Bahais, including the Bab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 10:26pm On Feb 16, 2012
Martian:

Then he ate PLANTAIN
While Chilling with Olu MAINTAIN
They talked about the football skills of Jus FONTAINE
Then they had a drink from the water FOUNTAIN
They climbed the tallest MOUNTAIN
And lamented Allah's hard BARGAIN
Then they said, that guy LagosShia is INSANE.


"And the poets - [only] the deviators follow them;Do you not see that in every valley they roam,And that they say what they do not do? -Except those [poets] who believe and do righteous deeds and remember Allah often and defend [the Muslims] after they were wronged. And those who have wronged are going to know to what [kind of] return they will be returned". (Holy Quran 26:224-227)
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 10:29pm On Feb 16, 2012
brentkruge:

LOL   grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

The man is lucky to be from the free world and  that his conversion is not the other way round. Else he would have been chased to the ends of the earth for his head! Many here (US) will just shrug their shoulders and wish him luck.

"Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal intimate intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17

"Whoever changed his (Islamic) religion, then kill him" Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:84:57



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

when talking about punishment for apostacy in islam,the death penalty is not prescribed as punishment in the Quran.there is no killing for apostacy.this issue is controversial even in islamic circles.that is my personal take on the issue.i believe capital punishment for apostacy is a judeo-christian tradition found in the bible where "everyone should be stoned" literally.however,if a law exists somewhere,then it must be respected.we know how you must behave as a roman when in rome.it is part of iranian law that proselythization is a criminal act.then dont go there doing it.that also does not mean that iran does not respect or protect its minorities among them christians who have being there for about 2000 years.

this is the take of the Quran:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects Taghut and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." [2:256]


"Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve, and then increase in their disbelief - Allah will never forgive them nor guide them to the path."[4:137].

if (4:137),if a person is to be killed for apostacy,then how can he believe again after he disbelieves?
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 10:32pm On Feb 16, 2012
@brentkkruge,

it may also interest you to view the below of another prominent westerner who also coincidentally embraced (Shia) Islam in Iran.he is coincidentally also of christian and jewish parents:

"Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam":

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-850035.0.html
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 9:25pm On Feb 17, 2012
Stone Hopes Occupy Wall Street Movement Revolutionizes US

TEHRAN (FNA)- Sean Ali Stone, the son of the renowned Oscar-winning US director Oliver Stone, who has just converted to Islam, expressed the hope that the anti-capitalism Occupy Wall Street Movement would change into a revolution to lead to the revival of the people's rule over the US.


"The Occupy Wall Street Movement is a popular movement. It says that people should be in power and power (should be) in people," Ali Stone said at a press conference here at FNA on Friday.

"At present, the movement is has not come into action, but I hope that it turns into a revolution and stops imperialism and revives republicanism.

On Sept. 17, 2011, a group of protesters gathered in Zuccotti Park in New York City. Their intention: to expose Wall Street greed and corporate domination over the lives of working and middle class people, the 99%. Almost immediately, police responded to the protesters with repression and pepper spray. This caused thousands of New Yorkers to flood to Zuccotti Park.

Occupy Wall Street was on. Protesters camped in the park and did not leave for 59 days. Support for the protest built quickly and spread across the country and around the world. Within weeks, almost a thousand cities had Occupy protests. US cities big and small had Occupations, including Chicago, Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, Oakland, Salt Lake City, Seattle, Tampa and Winston-Salem.

Despite police crackdowns and mass arrests, the Occupy movement has now spread to many major US cities as well as to Australia, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and other countries.

In his press conference today, Ali Stone responded to the questions of the local and foreign journalists, mostly with regard to his conversion to Islam.

Sean Stone converted to Islam in a ceremony in the Central Iranian city of Isfahan on February 14.

Sean Stone became a Shiite Muslim and chose the Muslim name of Ali as announced at the ceremony held in the Iranian historical city of Isfahan.

In his press conference today, Ali Stone responded to the questions of local and foreign journalists, mostly with regard to his conversion to Islam.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175144
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 1:27pm On Mar 07, 2012
Oliver Stone's Son: Dad Welcomes Islam Conversion

Sean Stone Says He Faces 'Reverse of Anti-Semitism'
By Forward Staff

Published February 20, 2012.

http://forward.com/articles/151668/

The filmmaker son of director Oliver Stone says he is facing “the reverse of anti-Semitism,” after converting to Islam in Iran last week.

Sean Stone — since his conversion, he goes by the name Sean Christopher Ali Stone — told The New York Post’s Page Six: “I’ve already experienced the reverse of anti-Semitism, having people within the film industry express a reluctance to work with me now that I have said a simple prayer, ‘There is no God but God, and Mohammed is his messenger.’ I am sure I have [bleeped] off some powerful people.”

The younger Stone, whose father is Jewish and whose mother is Christian, says he now considers himself a “Jewish Christian Muslim,” because he believes in the teachings of the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament and, as of recently, the Koran.

He is about to release a horror film, “Graystone,” and was in Iran researching another film at the time of his conversion.

Stone said famous dad has been most accepting of his embrace of Islam, telling the Post: “My dad said, ‘Allah be with you.’ My father understands that I am trying to bridge certain gaps and bring about peace.”
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 1:33pm On Mar 07, 2012
Sean Ali Stone to Present "True Image of a Muslim" to Western Society



TEHRAN (FNA)- Sean Ali Stone, the son of the renowned Oscar-winning US director Oliver Stone, who converted to Islam earlier this week expressed the hope that he could represent a "true image" of a Muslim to the West.


"I have converted to Islam and accepted that Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) is the prophet of Islam," Sean Ali Stone said in a press conference here at FNA office.

"I hope I could present a true image of a Muslim to the West," he added at the conference covered by a large number of local and foreign journalists.

Sean Stone converted to Islam in a ceremony in the Central Iranian city of Isfahan on February 14.

Sean Stone became a Shiite Muslim and chose the Muslim name of Ali as announced at the ceremony held in the Iranian historical city of Isfahan.

"The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with," Stone said.

"It means I have accepted Mohammad (PBUH) and other prophets," he added.

Stone who visited Iran several months ago said he needed to know more about Persian culture and civilization and become familiar with Iranian traditions and rituals.

Stone referred to Iran as one of Asia's major filmmaking centers saying that he "would like to introduce Persian culture and civilization to the West."

The 27-year-old filmmaker is a graduate of history from Princeton University and has collaborated on many of his father's projects. He has also directed a handful of documentaries.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175140
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by jmoore(m): 1:56pm On Mar 07, 2012
"The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with,” Stone said.

what a confused soul.

Christians will not stone you if you leave Christianity.

You can only serve two masters at a time.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 2:21pm On Mar 07, 2012
jmoore:

what a confused soul.

Christians will not stone you if you leave Christianity.

You can only serve two masters at a time.

please check posts #22 and 23.

i know it hurts,but take heart!
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by jmoore(m): 2:33pm On Mar 07, 2012
I do not need to check any post, you are the one that need to check the bible in John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

You cannot  believe in Jesus and mohammed.

And no one is born a christian, as John 3:5 explains  Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.  Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 5:34pm On Mar 07, 2012
jmoore:

I do not need to check any post, you are the one that need to check the bible in John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

You cannot  believe in Jesus and mohammed.

And no one is born a christian, as John 3:5 explains  Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.  Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

every prophet in his days was the way,the truth and the life.only Muhammad (sa) sent as a mercy to mankind as stated in the holy Quran is the way,the truth and the life of all times up to the day of judgement and even afterwards.

that is exactly what Jesus (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said about Muhammad (sa).

from the below also,you can see that Jesus (as) could not have taught "all truth" because of time constraint during his stay on earth and persecution he faced:

John 16:12-15
12 "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.


even if you do not agree out of fanaticism that Muhammad (sa) is the prophet described as the "spirit of truth" (note that in the bible's new testament a prophet is called is a spirit and also the prophet to come is referred to as the "paraclete",my point is to show you that there is "a truth" which even Jesus (as) mentioned and accepted to be greater than him in leading people into "all truth".
Re: US Christian-Jewish Actor, Director Sean Stone Embraces Islam In Iran by LagosShia: 5:58pm On Mar 07, 2012
Why the "paraclete,comforter,advocate,spirit of truth" to come after Jesus cannot be the christian "holy spirit"?

1.) John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"

"another" means "one like the other".which is the former? Jesus! so the next to come would be like Jesus,a prophet sent by God.

Matthew 21:11
And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

2.) John 16:7
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

going through the bible,we see the presence of the "holy spirit" on earth and experienced in the lives of people before the coming of Jesus (as),during his stay on earth and also after Jesus (as) left.

let us say you and your brother are in the same room with visitors.your brother's name is "Y".if "Y" was with you in the same room,can you tell people that you must leave the room so that "Y" can come in and if you dont leave he would not come in (for whatever reason)?

so how can Jesus (as) say if he does not go the "comforter" will not come if that comforter is already there?the "holy spirit" was already there regardless if Jesus (as) stays or leave.this means we cannot say the "comforter" is the "holy spirit".so we clear see that this person that will lead people into "all truth" is someone like Jesus (as)-a prophet- who will come newly to earth.

please compare the below two verses:

1 John 2:1:
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

John 14:16:
New Living Translation (©2007)
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you".

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