coogar:

it's simple biology.
every man wakes up with a wood every morning - is that because my mind is perverse or because of my hormones?
now if someone with little threshold decides to act on his Situation and w@nks in the bathroom, has that man sinned?

would you rather have him fornicate or r@pe an unsuspecting babe walking across the street?

Simple biology? is it simple enough for you to benefit us with some details?

every man wakes up with a wood every morning - false statement, but then again one can only speak for themselves.


would you rather have him fornicate or r@pe an unsuspecting babe walking across the street? No, Id rather he w@ank his brains out.

now if someone with little threshold decides to act on his Situation and w@nks in the bathroom, has that man sinned? I dont know, and I really dont care. I have not attributed 'sin' to anything in my discussion on this thread.

My argument, just to be clear, is that a thought must precede every action, including w@nking. I assume that its the contents of those thoughts that should be scrutinised. And only the w@anker would know what he thinks of. That a person can W@nk without thinking is something I cant understand. But quite rightly, I can only speak of myself, but nobody has been able to say how one can w@nk at 'nothingness'.

coogar:

abortion is the unlawful killing of a child - it's murder(no brainer)
there were whores in the bible. jesus actually saved one(no brainer)
indecency = immorality(no brainer).

how come there's nothing remotely related to masturbati[i]o[/i]n in the bible?

My brother, stop hiding sins under bible verses. I can as well argue abort.ion is not a sin because the word itself didn't appear in the bible just as you are arguing masturba.tion is not in the bible. I can as well argue that abortion is not murder because i am not committing murder as long as the bible didn't say abortion is sinful or because i assume it only says murder. So technically or indirectly, you are saying abortion, though it doesn't occur in the bible also mean murder. Then I  think you should be honest with your sinful nature to also see masturba.tion as related under lots of bible verses that had been given to you. Deal with your sin and stop hiding it. We all have shortcomings in our life and only God can deliver us from such but we must admit and cooprate with God. I hope i make sense to you.

Ignatio

thank for posting my youtuble video here they dont let me post videos here
would you llike more posted on line

Anti-PastChris:

Ignatio
thank for posting my youtuble video here they dont let me post videos here
would you llike more posted on line  

More videos please.

tlops:

@Goshen,
I only posted that, to show that the topic is such that has raised many concerns from Christians.

Ok bro. I hear you. Thanks

Well for those who say self-service is a sin against God , what do you say about  Fluid test.(sperrm). After all you have ton self-service to bring the sperrm out

Is it a sin to do Fluid test?

where is Crossman? he is another anti-pastor chris!

Joagbaje:

Well for those who say self-service is a sin against God , what do you say about  Fluid test.(sperrm). After all you have ton self-service to bring the sperrm out

Is it a sin to do Fluid test?

usually one supplied with "relevant" materials for the test. except its just smear test.

tlops:

usually one supplied with "relevant" materials for the test. except its just smear test.

Pls explain

goshen360:

My brother, stop hiding sins under bible verses. I can as well argue abort.ion is not a sin because the word itself didn't appear in the bible just as you are arguing masturba.tion is not in the bible. I can as well argue that abortion is not murder because i am not committing murder as long as the bible didn't say abortion is sinful or because i assume it only says murder. So technically or indirectly, you are saying abortion, though it doesn't occur in the bible also mean murder. Then I  think you should be honest with your sinful nature to also see masturba.tion as related under lots of bible verses that had been given to you. Deal with your sin and stop hiding it. We all have shortcomings in our life and only God can deliver us from such but we must admit and cooprate with God. I hope i make sense to you.

abortion is murder. it's the termination of the life of a foetus.
how isn't that murder?

can you tell me what is remotely close to w@nking that was mentioned in the bible?
it's actually a bigger sin to twist the bible to suit selfish wet dreams than to w@nk.

dare2think:

Simple biology? is it simple enough for you to benefit us with some details?

every man wakes up with a wood every morning - false statement, but then again one can only speak for themselves.


would you rather have him fornicate or r@pe an unsuspecting babe walking across the street? No, Id rather he w@ank his brains out.

now if someone with little threshold decides to act on his Situation and w@nks in the bathroom, has that man sinned? I dont know, and I really dont care. I have not attributed 'sin' to anything in my discussion on this thread.

waking up with a hardon every morning is a false statement? really?
you better go check yourself for impotency if you are not as hard as rock every morning. it means something is chemically wrong with your phallus.

My argument, just to be clear, is that a thought must precede every action, including w@nking. I assume that its the contents of those thoughts that should be scrutinised. And only the w@anker would know what he thinks of. That a person can W@nk without thinking is something I cant understand. But quite rightly, I can only speak of myself, but nobody has been able to say how one can w@nk at 'nothingness'.

thoughts don't have to precede every action. speak for yourself.
yes, i agree the thoughts behind the act is the critical issue not the act itself.
a man that w@nks so his Fluid can be properly tested has sinned? i am sure some of you zealots would argue Fluid test is ungodly and does not glorify God in heaven.

coogar:

can you tell me what is remotely close to w@nking that was mentioned in the bible?
it's actually a bigger sin to twist the bible to suit selfish wet dreams than to w@nk.

waking up with a hardon every morning is a false statement.
you better go check yourself for impotency if you are not as hard as rock every morning. it means something is chemically wrong with your phallus,

Coogar I just asked a question and I'm waiting for their response. What of those who do sperrm test in hospital . They have to mastubate to bring the semmen out. Is it a sin or a medical or biological thing.

Joagbaje:

Coogar I just asked a question and I'm waiting for their response. What of those who do sperrm test in hospital . They have to mastubate to bring the semmen out. Is it a sin or a medical or biological thing.

masturbati[i]o[/i]n won't be a problem then to these zealots. some of them are confused.
the thoughts behind every action is the critical thing. . . .not the act itself.

a foetus endangering the life of the mother should be terminated. yes - it's abortion but it's for a just cause.
a man who has been asked to provide his s[i]e[/i]men sample can w@nk. why would it be a sin if he does?
people who also take alcohol for medicinal purposes have not sinned? they do so for a reason.

until christians bend their heads around these things, they would continue to see things in black and white plainly whereas they should acknowledge there's a gray area in every sphere of our lives.

Joagbaje:

Coogar I just asked a question and I'm waiting for their response. What of those who do sperrm test in hospital . They have to mastubate to bring the semmen out. Is it a sin or a medical or biological thing.

^
From the medical perspective, they don't have to mast[b]ur[/b]bate to produce se[b]m[/b]en. . .alternative modalities like electroejaculation exist for those who may object.

@Buguzee,the bible said a woman shouldn't wear this made for a man and vice versa that's true alright but can you wear a trouser made for a woman?I mean there are male and female trousers so how is me wearing a female trouser a sin?

Now don't even tell me only a man is supposed to wear clothing shaped like a trouser because there are male clothes also shaped as gowns,how come when this issue is brought up the only thing you people come up with is "trouser"?what of men that tie wrappers?how about caps?how about glasses?how about watches?(There are unisex ones)how about so many things people of the opposite sex share?huh?

aletheia:

^
From the medical perspective, they don't have to mast[b]ur[/b]bate to produce se[b]m[/b]en. . .alternative modalities exist for those who may object to it.

how? draw it out of his scrotum or what?

@ coogar,
So you can argue abortion means murder? But the word "Abortion" doesn't appear in the bible. So i can abort and say it is not a sin. Where do you see murder as abortion in the bible. You can kill without necessarily aborting as you know. I hope you can hear yourself?

Abirtion is not murder. Hw can? Who died? Can 'it' complain to you? Isn't the 'it' just biological?

ok ok ok - m.as.tubation is a sin - right?

What about women in trousers? Not a sin!

Hypocrites.

coogar:

how? draw it out of his scrotum or what?

^
Modified my post to include electroejaculation as just one example.

Women in trousers a sin? What makes wearing trousers a sin?

^^^ Dont change topic plsss.

@ musKeeto, tell him to creat another thread for that and don't derail us. I hope he is listening.

@ musKeeto,

Someone once said "werepeLeri" is same "Joagbaje". So beware of both of them o. Am tracking IP on my computer.

Joagbaje:

Pls explain

Usually they provide erotic materials to aid release.

Lol@ cooger

I see you are still persistent in yabbing me abi. But I can't be upset coz I have nothing but love for u.   

@Men on the thread,

Do you have a hard on every morning you wake up for everyday of the week all year round?

Cooger, are you serious? I think it is you or your partner (if you are a female) that needs that check up !!!

Lol @ Hard on everyday.

freecocoa:

@Buguzee,the bible said a woman shouldn't wear this made for a man and vice versa that's true alright but can you wear a trouser made for a woman?I mean there are male and female trousers so how is me wearing a female trouser a sin?

Now don't even tell me only a man is supposed to wear clothing shaped like a trouser because there are male clothes also shaped as gowns,how come when this issue is brought up the only thing you people come up with is "trouser"?what of men that tie wrappers?how about caps?how about glasses?how about watches?(There are unisex ones)how about so many things people of the opposite sex share?huh?

Hun, trousers are for men. there is a reason for that. the lord is looking out for you women. he knows yall need fresh air to circulate or else you start baking bread down there and for the unenlightened, baking bread, means yeast infection. and then you can infect the whole community with that. yeasty environment aint good for the lactobacillus acidophillus and the other flora in your vagina. heck your womb can get destroyed by candida albicans. this is some serious stuff. the lord looking out for us all with these laws statutes and commandments

goshen360:

@ musKeeto,

Someone once said "werepeLeri" is same "Joagbaje". So beware of both of them o. Am tracking IP on my computer.

You must need deliverance if you believe that statement.


So you twist the bible to suit yourself - So, women in trousers is not a sin? I bow for your Christianity.

^^^what of those that live in the cold regions. should they wear skirt and freeze down below. lol

buzugee:

Hun, trousers are for men. there is a reason for that. the lord is looking out for you women. he knows yall need fresh air to circulate or else you start baking bread down there    and for the unenlightened, baking bread, means yeast infection. and then you can infect the whole community with that. yeasty environment aint good for the lactobacillus acidophillus and the other flora in your womanliness. heck your womb can get destroyed by candida albicans. this is some serious stuff. the lord looking out for us all with these laws statutes and commandments

Okay now i know you don't even know what you are talking about,did it say "trouser" in the bible?you didn't even answer my questions,why the emphasis on trousers alone?surely that's not the only supposed thing for men women put on.

goshen360:

@ coogar,
So you can argue abortion means murder? But the word "Abortion" doesn't appear in the bible. So i can abort and say it is not a sin. Where do you see murder as abortion in the bible. You can kill without necessarily aborting as you know. I hope you can hear yourself?

try and make sense abeg.
how can you liken abortion to w@nking? abortion involves the life of another. . . . .how do you affect the life of anyone if you w@nk?
this is why it's a sin against yourself and not against anyone.

dare2think:

Lol@ cooger
I see you are still persistent in yabbing me abi. But I can't be upset coz I have nothing but love for u.   

yab you?
if you read my yabs, you would take cover.
i don't have any grudge against you, dare2think.

@Men on the thread,

Do you have a hard on every morning you wake up for everyday of the week all year round?

Cooger, are you serious? I think it is you or your partner (if you are a female) that needs that check up !!!

Lol @ Hard on everyday.

i have a right to educate young minds on this forum.
try and read about n-p-t(nocturnal penile tumescence).
i reiterate, if you don't wake up with a morning wood, it is safe to conclude you are suffering from a sorta erectile dysfunction.
see your doctor before your ailment gets worse. viagra won't help you.

never fear smith is here I see all the people here are lost in space with “mastur.bat.ion” saying it isn’t a  sin well it is a sin pulling your chain is boring I know that famous people say it is just fun and feeling good but feeling good is not being good

Allen Woody (1935-) [Of mast.ur.ba.tion] Don’t knock it, it’s sex with someone you love.[Annie Hall]
Just because some Gerry curl king blasts people with lies does not make it a truth

Action, first baron (1834-1902)
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power courts absolutely. [Letter, Life of Mandell Creighton]
Every class is unfit to govern. [Quoted in Auden, A Certain World]

This man is clearly unfit for the church he is no man of God

In the last days it tells you about people like this they would be lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God

This is a sermon for the sinful come join my club its ok to sin this is “Christ embassy” there consumed with money and business they have forgotten Gods business


2 Timothy 3

New International Version (NIV)

2 Timothy 3
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.

2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,

3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—

5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,

7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.

9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
A Final Charge to Timothy

10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance,

11 persecutions, sufferings—what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them.

12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,

13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,

15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

tlops:

^^^what of those that live in the cold regions. should they wear skirt and freeze down below. lol

  nah cold weather stalls the growth of candida albicans so if you live in a colder climate, then you can definitely wear trousers. you gotta remember though that the region of biblical history is around egypt, ethiopia, sudan, israel, assyria etc. what do these regions have in common ? they are hot as heck. you can burn your coochie up wearing trousers in an environment like that. you walk down the streets in trousers as a woman, coochie get so hot it just explode in flames. seriously though, these are laws that have to be obeyed if you can help it. if you cant ? i am sure the lord has concessionary allowances. or maybe not

freecocoa:

Okay now i know you don't even know what you are talking about,did it say "trouser" in the bible?you didn't even answer my questions,why the emphasis on trousers alone?surely that's not the only supposed thing for men women put on.

well trousers pertain to a man. i think that is universally accepted. the other items you brought up ? they are unisex. like spectacles is unisex, male clothes shaped as gowns ? thats the norm till the europeans took over the world. but i am sure the men dont go free balling in em. they wear trousers with them.
caps are unisex, watches are unisex. men that tie wrappers ? well they are in contravention of the lords laws. scottish men in kilts ? oh yeah the lord aint feeling that

coogar:

try and make sense abeg.
how can you liken abortion to w@nking? abortion involves the life of another. . . . .how do you affect the life of anyone if you w@nk?
this is why it's a sin against yourself and not against anyone.

I guess you didn't understand me still. Abortion is not specifically printed in word in the bible but you can refer abortion to mean murder but you cannot refer masturba.tion to uncleaness and fulfilling the lust,desire and passion of the flesh. You are the one that should make sense please,ok