crossman9:

no
but unganda and many other parts of the world use tartan skirt like in india and many cultures

so you are ugandan then ?

no come on skype i will tell you why i am playing secret agent

crossman9:

no come on skype i will tell you why i am playing secret agent

ok hold on let me see if i can get into my old pc. so whats your skype name. believe me i have never used skype to IM before

crossman2012

buzugee:

no doubt no doubt. now go get you some skirts. i hear marks and spencer has a sale going on. good skirts too. i heard it through the grapevine that the queen gets her skirts from there. Shalom sister freecocoa

Nah i don't think i need skirts,i have about 2 or so but i got lots and lots of gowns of various styles and i'm good with those besides the trousers,  thanks for letting me know about the sales,i'll pass the message across to a "deeper life" member friend of mine. Shalom.

No problemos mi amigos. en guarde

ani lo mevin spanti bavakasha toda

crossman9:

ani lo mevin spanti bavakasha toda

am downloading skype. tis taking time. done. so you said it was crossman2012 ? how do i IM on skype ?

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Hello
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profile today and
became intrested in you,i will
also like to know you the more,
and i want you to send an email
to my email address so that i
can give you my picture for you
to know whom i am.
Here is my email
address(jeniferfred777@yahoo.in)
I believe we can move from here!
I am waiting for your mail to
my email address above.
(Remeber the distance or
colour does not matter but
love matters alot in life).
please mail me in my
private box not in the site
ok thanks

I AM ONLINE buzugee

coogar:


yab you?
if you read my yabs, you would take cover.
i don't have any grudge against you, dare2think.

i have a right to educate young minds on this forum.
try and read about n-p-t(nocturnal penile tumescence).
i reiterate, if you don't wake up with a morning wood, it is safe to conclude you are suffering from a sorta erectile dysfunction.
see your doctor before your ailment gets worse. viagra won't help you.

I'm not sure if 'yabs' should be something one should really boast of.

I read about nocturnal penile tumescence and it seems no one knows what causes this 'spontaneous' occurrence. I also read that there are variations with regards to the  frequency of having 'morning wood'. Some have it everyday (so you dont need to see a doctor), some have it occasionally (I dont need to see a doctor) and some less often.  I have checked blogs and asked other men that I know.

At least I don learn something new. Technically we are both right!! (except that you wrongly attribute lower frequency to a 'sorta erectile dysfunction')

[size=16pt]PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME SAYS MATURBATION IS NOT A SIN[/size]


I have said so many times that PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME IS A FALSE TEACHER

thread opened two days ago and already has 18000+ views.

are we saying m.asturbation is indeed a serious problem [or whatever] among men today?

amazing.

why is that so.

with all this free s.ex, unlimited internet hookups, non-christian values, etc etc.


just wondering.

The average Nigerian is generally uptight when the word "sex" is mentioned,

some parents even go as far as telling their children that sex is "evil" and not

to be talked about in public,so i think most of the folks twisting around some

bible verses to prove a non existent point are only doing so cuz of what their

mentality percieves as being morally upright. I'm sure most of them that are

women go to church during their periods,celebrate xmas and the regular new

year,wear wedding rings,covet the pictures of their pastors.etc and most

would have even mas.tur.bated,someone even suggested that if you can't

mas.tur.bate in heaven,you shouldn't do it on earth,what bollocks! Thus,going

by that theorem,we should stop eating,sleeping and maybe going to school is evil

ala the Christian version of boko haram. What a dunce. As i said before,there are

no provisions for mas.tur.bating as a sin in the bible even if it was ALREADY in

existence as at when these books were wrote. Talking about what glorifies God,

does visiting a prostitute instead of mas.tur.bating glorify God? Y'all saying it

is a sin,what do you do when you feel Hot? Or you've never felt Hot without

watching porn,without being married? If you get Hot,so what do you do,you

take up the bible and read it,innit? I remember once reading the songs of solomon

in the bible and ended up being Hot,have i committed a sin too? LMAO.

He who is clean,and worthy of the air he/she breathes,let him/her cast the

first stone. Stop inventing new bible injunctions out of your bums,if you dont

mas.tur.bate,that's your choice and your problem,and you're in NO position

whatsoever to pass judgement on who does. Remove the speck in your own eye

before you remove someone else's. Claiming to be self-rightheous on an

internet forum to make yourself feel better aligns your mindset closer to that

of a boko haram suicide bomber than away from it. By the way,if you're castigating

those who do it,and you've done it before,and perhaps still "hide" to do it,know that

you've just won yourself a chieftaincy title in hypocrisy. Everybody has got a choice,

choose whatever suits you. Only God knows who's a true Christian. Nuff said.

Lord Have Mercy on my always

FXKing2012:

People are just quoting the Bible and ascribing watever interpretation that suits them to it. Nigerians know how to invent sins in their head.
All the quotations I've been seeing from the Bible on this subject of mastur-bation talks about defiling your mind. Yes I know that if you defile your mind by entertaining erro.tic thoughts while mastur-bating then u are committing a sin cos your mind is being defiled just like when u look at a woman lustfully.
But when you mastur.bate without entertaining erro.tic thoughts, then u are not defiling your mind, your body is only responding to certain stimulus which accounts for the erec-tion and ejacu-lation while mastur.bating.

Point here is it is possible to mastur.bate and not defile your mind with wrong thoughts. And to prove this I supplied a link that showed a woman who got a dead man to achieve erec-tion.
So when u mastur-bate and you dont hurt your body, you dont hurt anybody and your mind is not defiled then it is not a sin!

Telling me mastur-bation is a sin is the same as telling me looking at a woman is a sin. It can never be a sin as long as you do not lust or fill your mind with erro-tic thoughts.
Maybe some of you need to understand the science behind an erec-tion, I'm sure that'll help your understanding.

Now I'm not saying every sin must be mentioned by name in the Bible, but the Bible is such a complete book that there is always a reference (directly or indirectly) to every sin.
Gay is not mentioned in the Bible but we know it's a sin cos of the destruction of Sodom; abortion is not mentioned but we all know thou shall not kill; smoking is not mentioned but we all know u are not to damage your body, etc etc.
I challenge anyone here to name a sin that was not either named or made reference to in the Bible.

SO WHAT REFERENCE DID THE PEOPLE OF SODOM HAVE TO TEACH THEM FROM HOMOSEXUALITY? NONE!!! THEY HAD NO BOOK OF THE LAW, BIBLE, NOTHING!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRITTEN DOWN OR "REFERRED TO DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY" AND GOD DESTROYED THEM, WHEN "THEY HAD NOTHING TO REFER THEM" A Normal mind deciphers what is right or wrong. It's a mystery of creation. In every land in the world, there are basic rules, i'e you don't kill indiscriminately; lying is wrong etc. If you need the letters of the Bible to state everything you need do and need not do, then the GOd's law is still far from being written in your heart.

Knight1:

SO WHAT REFERENCE DID THE PEOPLE OF SODOM HAVE TO TEACH THEM FROM HOMOSEXUALITY? NONE!!! THEY HAD NO BOOK OF THE LAW, BIBLE, NOTHING!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRITTEN DOWN OR "REFERRED TO DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY" AND GOD DESTROYED THEM, WHEN "THEY HAD NOTHING TO REFER THEM" A Normal mind deciphers what is right or wrong. It's a mystery of creation. In every land in the world, there are basic rules, i'e you don't kill indiscriminately; lying is wrong etc. If you need the letters of the Bible to state everything you need do and need not do, then the GOd's law is still far from being written in your heart.

So your mind is telling you it's wrong but pastor Chris' mind told him it's not wrong, does that make pastor Chris' mind abnormal (lol)?
Again, whatever you do that hurts others, hurts yourself or pollutes your mind is wrong. But in a case whereby none of these get hurt/polluted, how could your mind decipher it as wrong?

Maybe you should define wrong. Pls what is termed wrong, what makes an action wrong or right?

FXKing2012:God bless u so much my brother, does one masturbate without defiling of one's mind?

People?
Always quoting to suit themselves!

I bet u, the rate of masturbation is on d alarming rate at the moment, since Pastor Chris has given the green light,

The perfect example is Jesus, not Chris!

And dont ask me if its good to use modern technologies since Jesus never used!

Yornandrew:

it's a sin. people who are involved wish they can break off from it

People who sleep too much wish they can break off from it, so does that make sleeping too much a sin? Why do we keep inventing sins in our heads?

@ the person who posted after me

so because you feel h.orny, you must m.asturbate?

That's news to me.

I guess what may also be news to YOU is the fact that you can decide to bring your body under subjection so you will not be a slave to your desires?


Anyway, what do i know.

Make i no type too much about this topic.

But anyone with a s.ex addiction, should pray for freedom.

People have different lifestyles, so yall should carry on.

@fxking
i guess i did not structure my post well. i intended it to be a question
SODOM AND GOMORRAH DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN TO LET THEM KNOW IF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS GOOD OR BAD, HOMOSEXUALITY (LIKE MASTURBATION) IS AN ACTION WITH ONE'S BODY AND "DOESN'T HARM THE PUBLIC", SO WHY DID GOD DESTROY SODOM IF SODOMITES BELIEVED IT WAS RIGHT?
Or was GOD wrong to have destroyed them?

Is self service (ss) not a sin ? I bet it is. If you decide to categorize sin, that's your problem. Why do you feel guilt after ss. Your heart was condemning you right there and there. It doesn't matter if it's a sin against God or not. Ss guys won't make heaven, cos its not a place of uncleanliness. Pls study the word of God and know it for yourself. Nobody is justified to ss just because pastor Chris says its not a big deal.

We should always pray for our xtian leaders, so they would apply God's wisdom in all they say since their word carry such weight and has impact on the hearer, and could also be prone to mis-interpretation. I'm sure it's not pst Chris intention to mislead the body of Christ.

All you who pose as spokesmen for men of God should stop defending them, God who sent them will do that.

oluwabamis

well said you are a man with wisdom if only those in christ embassy would hear what your saying your very right but it is sin to pulling your own chain

If we're referring to a situation where a man is in a different location from his wife, then i think its his personal business how he handles his business.

But if we're talking of a situation where everytime a man sees a woman, he feels the urge to masturbate, then we have a problem.

Your body is not meant for s,e,x,u,a,l   immorality

This is clear read less pastor Chris books and read your bible you will have your eyes opened

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PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME SAYS MATURBATION IS NOT A SINI have said so many times that PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME IS A FALSE TEACHER

you forgot one more false teacher one must know the mind of God to tell people the will of God in the first place

he is too busy counting the money, he makes out of the simple people in the church, pastor Chris  is playing spiritual black jack with your future



it is important to know the mind of God you will spend eternity with him and not pastor Chris why not today come and get to know your God and for all the people who say show me scripture to back the claim up well in many other subjects when the bible is cited you simply come out with “touch not thy anointed one or do thy (profits) no harm”
you people when presented with quoteS from the bible telling you something is against Gods will you cite pastor Chris or say I am mentally I’ll?
You worship him as God 
Luke 6:46

New International Version (©1984)
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?
New Living Translation (©2007)
"So why do you keep calling me 'Lord, Lord!' when you don't do what I say?
English Standard Version (©2001)
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
International Standard Version (©2008)
"Why do you keep calling me 'Lord, Lord,' but don't do what I tell you?
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“Why are you calling me, 'My Lord, my Lord'', and you are not doing whatever I say?”
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Why do you call me Lord but don't do what I tell you?
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And why call me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
American King James Version
And why call you me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Knight1:

@fxking
i guess i did not structure my post well. i intended it to be a question
SODOM AND GOMORRAH DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN TO LET THEM KNOW IF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS GOOD OR BAD, HOMOSEXUALITY (LIKE self-service) IS AN ACTION WITH ONE'S BODY AND "DOESN'T HARM THE PUBLIC", SO WHY DID GOD DESTROY SODOM IF SODOMITES BELIEVED IT WAS RIGHT?
Or was GOD wrong to have destroyed them?

Sodom was destroyed cos it was a city filled with all manner of filth. The city was filled with homo.sexuals, pros.titutes, etc etc. That time was the dispensation of conscience and their consciences must have been warning them to desist from their evil ways but obviously they didnt listen.

Now let me ask u: do u think it's possible to mastur-bate without defiling your mind?
I provided a link about a woman who got a dead man to achieve erec-tion in the US, the case is even a court case at the moment. This shows it is possible to mastur-bate for medical reasons or whatever and not get your mind defiled. It's just your body responding to stimulus. You need to understand the science behind it.

tpia@:

If we're referring to a situation where a man is in a different location from his wife, then i think its his personal business how he handles his business.

But if we're talking of a situation where everytime a man sees a woman, he feels the urge to self-service, then we have a problem.

so you're saying w@nking is morally right as long as a man build fantasies around his wife? thank you!

tpia@:

@ the person who posted after me
so because you feel h.orny, you must m.asturbate?
That's news to me.
[b]I guess what may also be news to YOU is the fact that you can decide to bring your body under subjection [/b]so you will not be a slave to your desires?


Anyway, what do i know.
Make i no type too much about this topic.
But anyone with a s.ex addiction, should pray for freedom.

tpia@, stop[i] forming[/i]. we all know you w@nk on the regular.

Those who masturbate should tell us their experiences after the act in relation to:
- feeling depressed
- failure or success in business and other areas of life
Etc

I will advice that if you have any negative experience after the act, you are being used by demons.

The way out is to pray and fast and you will be delivered.

You can live a life free without the urge to mastubate.

Shallom!

FXKing2012 Now let me ask u: do u think it's possible to mastur-bate without defiling your mind?
I provided a link about a woman who got a dead man to achieve erec-tion in the US, the case is even a court case at the moment. This shows it is possible to mastur-bate for medical reasons or whatever and not get your mind defiled. It's just your body responding to stimulus. You need to understand the science behind it

this is scraping the barrel this one is interesting I will say but this would take the warming of blood hyperaemia would need to take place the person could not “e,ja,cula,te” was she committing an act of necrophilia this show you are searching the world of science not the truth of the bible