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Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Kachi01: 1:40pm On Apr 19, 2012
I dey laugh.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Litmus: 2:05pm On Apr 19, 2012
People really need to get down to serious hard work to solve their problems.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 2:12pm On Apr 19, 2012
@OP


Nigeria does not need SNC to commence disintegration. The boundaries are very natural and as simple as the languages spoken in Nigeria. I do not care if Nigeria is divided into 300 countries as long as there is a Republic of Igbo land.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Afam4eva(m): 2:14pm On Apr 19, 2012
Dede1: @OP


Nigeria does not need SNC to commence disintegration. The boundaries are very natural and as simple as the languages spoken in Nigeria. I do not care if Nigeria is divided into 300 countries as long as there is a Republic of Igbo land.

It might not be that easy. A referendum has to be carried out in every part of the country to determine who they wanna join.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by ak47mann(m): 2:15pm On Apr 19, 2012
My concern in d whole tin is the rejection of western education by the north. The south support western education and the north hate it. The only solution is for the south to go and pursue their vision through western education, while the north should go and pursue their sharia eduction. Western education encourages modern industrialization and technological development while sharia education encourages primitivity, underdevelopment and terrorism. cool
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by kinguwem: 2:44pm On Apr 19, 2012
Prof. should apologize to nigerians for saying that the north is gaining nothing from Nigeria. What of the monthly allocations to the northern states from the federation account. How much do they contribute? Most of our leaders are only interested in what they and their kinsmen benefit. He never complained when he was benefitting directly from the goodies. How many farms and small scale businesses did he establish for his people when he was empowered. Prof. should speak for himself and not the entire north.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Akpan107(m): 3:15pm On Apr 19, 2012
alj harem:

Yes we all talk of Nigeria splitting but come to think of it, would you be happy if Nigeria split ?
Yes, i'll be very happy.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Litmus: 3:24pm On Apr 19, 2012
Everyone of you people crying, BREAK UP, BREAK UP, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, i bet if someone you know closely - in capacity of friend or friend & tribesman - gets into position of power today in that Nigeria, you'd be one of the first to ask him/her to use their influence to gain you a lucrative position. People in your village will pressure him to do something for the village. If he refused, sighting honesty and transparency,you and villagers would be the first to swear at him for a fool. You'd be shouting at him, "idiot, see how the Ekereke man did X, Y and Z for his village but when you get into power you do not want to do anything for us! Oh god, why does my own thing have to be different? Everybody's goat cries, baa, baa, my own cries give me yam head!"

Look, the way things stand in Nigeria, we're all equally to blame . Nigeria is a great nation worthy of saving but first we must acknowledge our own faults. No point blaming North , South or East, blame yourselves. If we get into the habit of looking to blame others or things for what we can solve by hard work and personal sacrifice, then there will be no end in sight to our problems. As some first blamed the Military and shouted from the rooftops that Democracy will solve all problems, some are now blaming Northerners and shouting from the rooftops that separations will solve all problems. Wise-men say,to make god laugh,tell him your plans. This is an acknowledgement of the fallacy of sure bet ideas.

If you're looking to always cast far for blames,be ready to blame the Westerners after your vaunted Break-away from the North, who used to be your problem. After that, there will be the East, South, then the neighboring tribe,to blame and then next it will be the rich,then the poor, and finally it will be the fault of the pistol that you used to blow your brains out.

There is nothing for it but hard work.

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Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 3:57pm On Apr 19, 2012
afam4eva:

It might not be that easy. A referendum has to be carried out in every part of the country to determine who they wanna join.


Any group that does not want to join in the gains or ruins of disintegrated Nigeria is free to retain Republic of Niger River or Republic of Niger/Benue River or anything but Nigeria because the concept of Niger and its area will die a natural death

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Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 19, 2012
Let's ask ourselves this question;

If Nigeria divides, will each region be more peaceful? If the answer is YES, then let's divide. You cannot have development and progress without peace and tranquillity.

Why should I ( a Yoruba Man, Igbo or non-fulani) be in the north, and be thinking that at any slightest provocation ( Americans burning Koran in 8000 miles Afghanistan, A Danish man depicting a sacred prophet , e.t.c), that I might be slaughtered?


Its correct that 'true Federalism' is being practised in America, but all these American States share the same belief, identity, language, passion, ideology, e.t.c, Whereas, Nigeria is quite the opposite.

Separation will also put the destinies of every Nigerian in his/her own hand. The regional 'blame game' will forever be gone.

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Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Afam4eva(m): 4:07pm On Apr 19, 2012
obo_man: Let's ask ourselves this questions;

If Nigeria divides, will each region be more peaceful? If the answer is YES, then let's divide. You cannot have development and progress without peace and tranquillity.

Why should I ( a Yoruba Man, Igbo or non-fulani) be in the north, and be thinking that at any slightest provocation ( Americans burning Koran in 8000 miles Afghanistan, A Danish man depicting a sacred prophet , e.t.c), that I might be slaughtered?


Its correct that 'true Federalism' is being practised in America, but all these American States share the same belief, identity, language, passion, ideology, e.t.c, Whereas, Nigeria is quite the opposite.

Separation will also put the destinies of every Nigerian in his/her own hand. The regional 'blame game' will forever be gone.


You're right.

We're not saying that if Nigeria breaks up today, everything will be perfect, NO. At least that will solve 50% of the problem.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 19, 2012
And if we are to disband the National Assembly in case there is SNF, we should invite UN soldiers, American Soldiers and if possible British soldiers to be on the ground.


Come to think about it, should we disband the National Assembly, and God forbid, Military men of Northern extraction take over, it is back to square 1, looting, and maybe another civil war. We do not want to go that path. Liberia and Sierra Leone are good examples why. ( Watch those wars on Youtube).
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Ninapha(f): 4:23pm On Apr 19, 2012
PrinceDudu:

Has Nigeria moved forward with the south holding the presidency for the whole period of democracy in Nigeria?

If the answer is NO, it is because the North vowed to stamped governance, by refusing to allow any office of acting president if the incumbent is sick, invoke Boko Haram if another tribe wins, and or refuse SNG. We know that their present support for SNG is just a show to hide their shame of failure. Losers. cheesy
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by donami(m): 4:38pm On Apr 19, 2012
i get tired of people like him, saying blah, they steal public funds, build a big house with a mosque beside it and then they sometimes attend to long queues of almajiri but give nothing to the society.poverty in the north is as a result of ignorance and modern day slavery.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 5:27pm On Apr 19, 2012
obo_man: And if we are to disband the National Assembly in case there is SNF, we should invite UN soldiers, American Soldiers and if possible British soldiers to be on the ground.


Come to think about it, should we disband the National Assembly, and God forbid, Military men of Northern extraction take over, it is back to square 1, looting, and maybe another civil war. We do not want to go that path. Liberia and Sierra Leone are good examples why. ( Watch those wars on Youtube).




There should be no civil war as Nigeria/Biafra civil war if Nigeria tends to disintegrate and nation states will not invite UN soldiers. This is not 1966/67 when large cross sections of Nigerians were inadequately educated. The civil war could have been avoided if most Nigerians understood Ojukwu’s stance as they did today.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by lacasa: 5:57pm On Apr 19, 2012
freshmoney:

We obviously need a DISLIKE button cuz of some silly posts on NL. May be a few dislike clicks may knock them off and re-boot their thinking faculty again undecided

How. Old r U̶̲̥̅̊? Mumu
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by slam7000(m): 5:57pm On Apr 19, 2012
@afam4eva,

Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by afam4eva(m): 7 hours & 8 minutes
Nigerians are born liars. It's this kind of lie that will make them say that Abuja was built with the sheer hardwork of Northerners [b]the same way our SW brothers are saying about Lagos. [/b]I really don't care what they say, what i want is for them to fast-track their want for secession.



What are you on about on the bolded,say what you want about them,the northerners are ever ready and yes FCT might got to them,so are the south westerners who,ll retain lagos,besides governors like fashola are doing great...transport..road,rail system,infrastructures like eko atlantic,great vision in agriculture..read that he is presently trying to get some lands from osun for mega scale farming...whats the other republic/country...what are the governors of south east doing..anything happens to niger bridge will spell doom for land travellers...most SEners in diaspora cant come back without travelling either via abuja or MM lagos,enugu airport is out of it except for travellers from some african countries,in event of any serious political instability,the north can sustain itself food wise so are the SWners,how about the SE OR SS,i dont think you need to split to invest in agriculture to produce enough food,you dont need to split to have a blue print for sustainable development.northerners are united so are the sw.they can easily meet overnight and speak with one voice.a new SE nation wont guarantee any development and salvation some folks argue here,touts like Chris Uba and his bros are still pulling the strings in a state produced the likes of ekwueme,ojukwu achebes.eko atlantic city was initiated by tinubu,..fashola is working hard to make it a reality,most of the projects started by roguish nnamani are still untouched by randy chime.if that is how a new nation will be born,im afraid it,ll end in disaster.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Afam4eva(m): 6:01pm On Apr 19, 2012
slam7000: @afam4eva,

Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by afam4eva(m): 7 hours & 8 minutes
Nigerians are born liars. It's this kind of lie that will make them say that Abuja was built with the sheer hardwork of Northerners [b]the same way our SW brothers are saying about Lagos. [/b]I really don't care what they say, what i want is for them to fast-track their want for secession.



What are you on about on the bolded,say what you want about them,the northerners are ever ready and yes FCT might got to them,so are the south westerners who,ll retain lagos,besides governors like fashola are doing great...transport..road,rail system,infrastructures like eko atlantic,great vision in agriculture..read that he is presently trying to get some lands from osun for mega scale farming...whats the other republic/country...what are the governors of south east doing..anything happens to niger bridge will spell doom for land travellers...most SEners in diaspora cant come back without travelling either via abuja or MM lagos,enugu airport is out of it except for travellers from some african countries,in event of any serious political instability,the north can sustain itself food wise so are the SWners,how about the SE OR SS,i dont think you need to split to invest in agriculture to produce enough food,you dont need to split to have a blue print for sustainable development.northerners are united so are the sw.they can easily meet overnight and speak with one voice.a new SE nation wont guarantee any development and salvation some folks argue here,touts like Chris Uba and his bros are still pulling the strings in a state produced the likes of ekwueme,ojukwu achebes.eko atlantic city was initiated by tinubu,..fashola is working hard to make it a reality,most of the projects started by roguish nnamani are still untouched by randy chime.if that is how a new nation will be born,im afraid it,ll end in disaster.

Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by jidestar: 6:01pm On Apr 19, 2012
afam4eva: Nigerians are born liars. It's this kind of lie that will make them say that Abuja was built with the sheer hardwork of Northerners the same way our SW brothers are saying about Lagos. I really don't care what they say, what i want is for them to fast-track their want for secession.

U my friend are a liar. He goat!
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by jidestar: 6:04pm On Apr 19, 2012
Dede1: @OP


Nigeria does not need SNC to commence disintegration. The boundaries are very natural and as simple as the languages spoken in Nigeria. I do not care if Nigeria is divided into 300 countries as long as there is a Republic of Igbo land.

Only in ur tibalist mind will Nigeria disintegrate.olodo

Where is beaf that daft? This is your handwork. cheesy cheesy
idiot!
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Afam4eva(m): 6:04pm On Apr 19, 2012
jidestar:

U my friend are a liar. He goat!

I'm your friend and a he-goat? What does that make you?
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by jidestar: 6:08pm On Apr 19, 2012
afam4eva:

I'm your friend and a he-goat? What does that make you?



The isi-ewu specialistcheesy
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by jidestar: 6:10pm On Apr 19, 2012
Onlytruth: Because they are no longer ruling. lol
Well, let the conference begin already because I'm tired of mortgaging my future and that of my children to a hopeless system.
EVERYTHING should be on the table; from true federalism to total disintegration.
The outcome must be acceptable to all stake holders in Nigeria, and the process should be supervised and enforced by the UN if necessary.
Aburi is still very fresh in my mind.
All these talks are not deceiving anyone.
These types of talks proceeded Aburi. Heck the conference itself held in the most cordial atmosphere. Yet, the North (led by Gowon) flushed it down the toilet after signing it.

So, when are we starting? Thank God almighty for a time like this. cool

When will u get a life? Everytime u are here talking about disintegration. U nag like a woman. so sad! cry




Where is beaf that scum? We can count all these sepeartionist on one hand. The only thing they have in common is sad lives. tongue
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by gbogboti: 6:27pm On Apr 19, 2012
PrinceDudu:

Has Nigeria moved forward with the south holding the presidency for the whole period of democracy in Nigeria?

You can change a country within a span of 5yrs if u are serious as a president. You can root out corruption within a year of leadership. So all the ranting about how many years each region has used is total rubbish. Obasanjo with a full blooded military gene had all the opportunity to fix Nigeria but what happened?

Abeg! Make Nigeria break up make we know how far.

One thing is sure, every region has failed Nigeria.

The south-south should be the most developed region with all the monthly allocations plus 13% derivation. But, where is the development? Ibori is one good example of how far the south-south leaders have failed their region.

I served in south-south as a youth corps member. Omo, see poverty. Poverty is everywhere in Nigeria. Take it or leave it. We have one big problem in Nigeria, that is throwing blames @ each other. Let's break up and see. One funny fact is, no more free movement and settlement across each regions. Food that is taken for granted now will become a serious issue. I bet u. Mind you, not all parts of the south is oil endowed. Soon, it will be, south-west do you have oil? South-east, how much oil do u have? In life, we humans hardly appreciate what we have unti u loose it.

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Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by jidestar: 6:29pm On Apr 19, 2012
Bliss4Lyfe: lollz!Just a year of the oil region stay in power and they are not gaining anything.

Hausa-fulani has a great debt to pay the oil rich south before they can leave.

Ojukwu told dem but no becos they were gaing everything including peoples life.

Pay us back and get lost. grin


U dis woman go dey jump up and down over things were no reach for ur place. This na wetting single mother dey cause. Oloshi.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 7:19pm On Apr 19, 2012
jidestar:

Only in ur tibalist mind will Nigeria disintegrate.olodo

Where is beaf that daft? This is your handwork. cheesy cheesy
idiot!


It is only in the world of a moronic agonist such as you that a person who agitates for the right of sovereignty is called tribal bigot. I shall not attempt to educate you pass the level of door post dunce as you have exhibited with the above post.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by emmalexabl(m): 7:29pm On Apr 19, 2012
Dede1: @OP


Nigeria does not need SNC to commence disintegration. The boundaries are very natural and as simple as the languages spoken in Nigeria. I do not care if Nigeria is divided into 300 countries as long as there is a Republic of Igbo land.
U may not be alright. .i tink u need some mental state exam. . .
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 8:28pm On Apr 19, 2012
emmalexabl:
U may not be alright. .i tink u need some mental state exam. . .


If not wanting a cesspit called Nigeria as a dear country has turned you into psychiatric patient, there is no doubt you are destined to be mad the rest of your miserable life
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by nagoma(m): 8:41pm On Apr 19, 2012
I am happy we are making progress. North for NORTHERNERS , south for SOUTHERNERS , it should be peaceful separation and should not take long. By 2015 GEJ should be the southern president to complete his term. The new north will sit and plan - it's not easy but that is the best way to go. May the good Lord make it happen and in peace. Amen.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Yujin(m): 8:42pm On Apr 19, 2012
obo_man: Let's ask ourselves this question;

If Nigeria divides, will each region be more peaceful? If the answer is YES, then let's divide. You cannot have development and progress without peace and tranquillity.

Why should I ( a Yoruba Man, Igbo or non-fulani) be in the north, and be thinking that at any slightest provocation ( Americans burning Koran in 8000 miles Afghanistan, A Danish man depicting a sacred prophet , e.t.c), that I might be slaughtered?


Its correct that 'true Federalism' is being practised in America, but all these American States share the same belief, identity, language, passion, ideology, e.t.c, Whereas, Nigeria is quite the opposite.

Separation will also put the destinies of every Nigerian in his/her own hand. The regional 'blame game' will forever be gone.


You have struck the right point. If only the hausa/fulani and other northern muslims do not slaughter poor innocent people for no just reason, I believe all the poor masses will come together to fight our corrupt leaders. However, it is already too late. SNC or catastrophy.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Dede1(m): 9:05pm On Apr 19, 2012
nagoma: I am happy we are making progress. North for NORTHERNERS , south for SOUTHERNERS , it should be peaceful separation and should not take long. By 2015 GEJ should be the southern president to complete his term. The new north will sit and plan - it's not easy but that is the best way to go. May the good Lord make it happen and in peace. Amen.


I do not know about north for northerners but south is certainly not for southerners as you have perceived. There must be a Republic of Igbo land for peace to reign.
Re: We Are Not Gaining Anything From Nigeria – Northern Leaders by Onlytruth(m): 2:13am On Apr 20, 2012
obo_man: Let's ask ourselves this question;

If Nigeria divides, will each region be more peaceful? If the answer is YES, then let's divide. You cannot have development and progress without peace and tranquillity.

Why should I ( a Yoruba Man, Igbo or non-fulani) be in the north, and be thinking that at any slightest provocation ( Americans burning Koran in 8000 miles Afghanistan, A Danish man depicting a sacred prophet , e.t.c), that I might be slaughtered?


Its correct that 'true Federalism' is being practised in America, but all these American States share the same belief, identity, language, passion, ideology, e.t.c, Whereas, Nigeria is quite the opposite.

Separation will also put the destinies of every Nigerian in his/her own hand. The regional 'blame game' will forever be gone.


My friend you are a very wise man.
Sometimes we talk about "true federalism", only to forget that no amount of true federalism would stop Fulani "herdsmen" for example from slaughtering "fellow Nigerians" in ignoble hours of the night. cry No amount of One Nigerian confederation would stop horders of mass murdering marauders from attacking hapless southerners in the North, spun by the flimsiest of religious misunderstandings.

If ever a Nigerian "true federalism" would see the light of day, all mass murder suspects must be brought to justice as part of the setting up of the new regions and healing the past.

If that doesn't happen, then there is no guarantee whatsoever that Islamic clerics won't continue their wicked pasttimes of inciting millions of minions to mass-murder fellow citizens without any repercusion whatsoever. undecided

For now, it looks like the only true solution is total disintegration. We can reconstitute agreeable regions and groups after the initial disintegration (if ever necessary), with clearly spelt out and agreed terms and conditions. cool cool cool

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