Ramu you no dey tire ni?...

Dadehmola:


Sorry to burst your Bubble, the Cavarlho analogy is false and a complete distortion of facts

Just like Terry, Cavarlho was a serial winner/Nominee unlike your useless Boateng.

These are the individual awards Carvalho copped at the pinnacle of his career..

UEFA Club Best Defender of the Year: 2003–04
UEFA Team of the Year: 2004
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: Portugal 2004
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: Germany 2006
FIFA FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007, 2008, 2011

John Terry
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
UEFA Club Defender of the Year: 2005, 2008, 2009
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 2006

For the umpeenth time, how can the achievements of a serial Nominee be attributed to media hype??

i Guess Uefa peeps and his fellow players that nominated him musta had their korokoro eyes plucked out on numerous occasions.

Stop disgracing yourself. Carvalho never made it beyond FIFPro nomination while Terry made FIFPro team 4 times. Yet Carvalho is a better defender than Terry

If na by nomination then in 2015 all award category Boateng was nominated. But nomination or award are crap, what you do in those big moments are what counts not awards based on votes from every top diccck and Harry that has access to the internet

This is what you shoulda thought about before using the " he-bossed-in a-Big-Game" nonsense to back up your argument. Wether Toress was a sub or not is irrelevant here - the fact remains that Torres also bossed in a big game and shoulda been praised to high heavens that year (according to you logic)

How can you claim someone was the best CF when he isnt even a starter for club or country at the time in question. In 2008 Torres bossed the Euro cup final and in 2008 was rightly a top center forward not in 2012 when he couldnt even get a starting shirt. Apples and agbalumo comparison

Read properly...

This means that, as at that time, Pedro was better than Robben!!

Pedro has scored in a UCL final - Till Ribery scores in a game as big as that,

Pedro>>>>>>>>>>>>Scarface (by your big-game theory)

attached is Pedros score in the CL final compare that with either of Robben or Ribery's score in a CL final

Pedro 2011 final vs Ribery and Robben 2013

Like I said Men lie, women lie numbers dont lie. Numbers always support my assertions compared to the emotional and hype laden statements from others

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3518089_clfinal_jpegc224522d5e992b4ea1f5a27666b9888f

elrony:
Ramu you no dey tire ni?...

If we tire to dey educate, ignorance would continue to grow

If we dont educate people here, they would go out and tell others that Joe Cole is better than Schweinsteiger, or that terry is better than Boateng

raumdeuter:


Stop disgracing yourself. Carvalho never made it beyond FIFPro nomination while Terry made FIFPro team 4 times. Yet Carvalho is a better defender than Terry

Ode ni bobo yi ni??

Who said this a few mins ago??

raumdeuter:


Carvalho never got nominated once.

In a bid to downplay terry's achievements, you brought in the issue of nomination, thinking that
Cavarlho is as useless as Boateng (who is yet to be nominated for any major honours)

Once again, you have shown us how much of a failure Boateng is!!

raumdeuter:


How can you claim someone was the best CF when he isnt even a starter for club or country at the time in question. In 2008 Torres bossed the Euro cup final and in 2008 was rightly a top center forward not in 2012 when he couldnt even get a starting shirt. Apples and agbalumo comparison

Like I said earlier, you brought in the issue of "big-game" dominance and I drew your attention to the 2012 Euros where Toress dominated a final. His ommision from the starting 11 on numerous occassions remains irrelevant. Next time, you go dey reason these things before trumpeting the "big-game" hogwash from thread to thread!!

raumdeuter:


[s]attached is Pedros score in the CL final compare that with either of Robben or Ribery's score in a CL final[/s]

Ribery : 2 CL finals - 0 goals

Robben : 3 CL finals - 1 goal.

Pedro : 1 CL final - 1 goal

Pedro >>>>>> Ribery + Robben (according to Dayo's "Big- game theory"

raumdeuter:


If we tire to dey educate, ignorance would continue to grow

If we dont educate people here, they would go out and tell others that Joe Cole is better than Schweinsteiger, or that terry is better than Boateng

And you would go out and tell people that Boateng is better than Terry abi?

What a comic relief!

Dadehmola:


Ode ni bobo yi ni??

Who said this a few mins ago??



In a bid to downplay terry's achievements, you brought in the issue of nomination, thinking that
Cavarlho is as useless as Boateng (who is yet to be nominated for any major honours)

Once again, you have shown us how much of a failure Boateng is!!

This is what we say about half baked analysts like you. They just go to wikipedia and copy-paste. Below is the Boateng "who is yet to be nominated for any major honours)"

http://en.toty.uefa.com/defenders.html

NEUER, BOATENG AND MÜLLER NOMINATED FOR 2015 UEFA TEAM OF THE YEAR
http://www.dfb.de/news/detail/neuer-boateng-and-mueller-nominated-for-2015-uefa-team-of-the-year-135639/

THE 55-PLAYER SHORTLIST: (HOME COUNTRY/CLUB)

GOALKEEPERS

Gianluigi Buffon (Italy, Juventus)
Iker Casillas (Spain, FC Porto)
David De Gea (Spain, Manchester United)
Keylor Navas (Costa Rica, Real Madrid CF)
Manuel Neuer (Germany, FC Bayern Munich)

DEFENDERS

David Alaba (Austria, FC Bayern Munich)
Jordi Alba (Spain, FC Barcelona)
Daniel Alves (Brazil, FC Barcelona)
Jérôme Boateng (Germany, FC Bayern Munich)

https://www.fifpro.org/en/news/final-55-nominees-for-world-xi-2015

So lets watch you change the story from Boateng doesnt get nominated to what now?

Thats how we disgrace half baked analysts with facts!!!

Like I said earlier, you brought in the issue of "big-game" dominance and I drew your attention to the 2012 Euros where Toress dominated a final. Wether or not he was a sub remains irrelevant. Next time, you go dey reason these things before trumpeting the "big-game" hogwash from thread to thread!!

Fact is Torres was a substitute in 2012 Euro How does the top Center forward start games as a sub?

Ribery : 2 CL finals - 0 goals

Robben : 3 CL finals - 1 goal.

Pedro : 1 CL final - 1 goal

Pedro >>>>>> Ribery + Robben (according to Dayo's "Big- game theory"

This is another example of roadside newspaper stand analysts.

1. he doesnt even know Pedro played the CL final last year(2015) and in 2009 in addition to the 2011 final making it 3 CL finals

2. They only care about who scored while analysts look at performances of the night like 2 weeks ago when they were chorusing Iniesta is unproductive because he doesnt score

Their performances were graded and Pedro was found to be inferior to Robben or Ribery despite the goal pedro scored

elrony:


And you would go out and tell people that Boateng is better than Terry abi?

What a comic relief!

It was a comic relief too when people were told the earth was not flat until they were properly educated

Imagine saying it outside.....Boateng is better than Terry,chai!!!!

At least tell us one player or legend outside Bayern that has ever hailed boateng.... Just 1 ,even if the person is German we will take it.....

Guardiola himself won't even try it......
Reasonable opinions will never be new to the ears, for 100% of us here Ramram is the only person in the world who thinks so........

elrony:


And you would go out and tell people that Boateng is better than Terry abi?

What a comic relief!

Terry is the player Ramuzaki thinks Boateng is while Boateng is the player Ramudeen thinks Terry is......


Egbon is just getting it mixed up in his head

Make una free dayo, he don go shak that im German beer again.


If dayo says that boa(septic)tank is better than terry (even do the ninja will be laughing at this ridiculous assertion), then make una free am. He can equally come here and tell us that Michael Jackson is not the king of pop. It's his own opinion.

raumdeuter:


This is what we say about half baked analysts like you. They just go to wikipedia and copy-paste. Below is the Boateng "who is yet to be nominated for any major honours)"

http://en.toty.uefa.com/defenders.html

NEUER, BOATENG AND MÜLLER NOMINATED FOR 2015 UEFA TEAM OF THE YEAR
http://www.dfb.de/news/detail/neuer-boateng-and-mueller-nominated-for-2015-uefa-team-of-the-year-135639/

THE 55-PLAYER SHORTLIST: (HOME COUNTRY/CLUB)

GOALKEEPERS

Gianluigi Buffon (Italy, Juventus)
Iker Casillas (Spain, FC Porto)
David De Gea (Spain, Manchester United)
Keylor Navas (Costa Rica, Real Madrid CF)
Manuel Neuer (Germany, FC Bayern Munich)

DEFENDERS

David Alaba (Austria, FC Bayern Munich)
Jordi Alba (Spain, FC Barcelona)
Daniel Alves (Brazil, FC Barcelona)
Jérôme Boateng (Germany, FC Bayern Munich)

https://www.fifpro.org/en/news/final-55-nominees-for-world-xi-2015

So lets watch you change the story from Boateng doesnt get nominated to what now?

Thats how we disgrace half baked analysts with facts!!!

Ogbeni go siddon

You shoulda gotten your facts right before telling us Cavalho was never nominated!

Even at that, we can only manage to say that Boateng has bossed only for one season and such a nomination actually qualifies to be dubbed as the "sentimental" selection you've been on about since morning.

raumdeuter:

Fact is Torres was a substitute in 2012 Euro How does the top Center forward start games as a sub?

Irrelevant!!

Toress dominated a big game.

According to your Logic, he shoulda been nominated for the ballon' dor!!

raumdeuter:


This is another example of roadside newspaper stand analysts.

1. he doesnt even know Pedro played the CL final last year(2015) and in 2009 in addition to the 2011 final making it 3 CL finals

2. They only care about who scored while analysts look at performances of the night like 2 weeks ago when they were chorusing Iniesta is unproductive because he doesnt score

Their performances were graded and Pedro was found to be inferior to Robben or Ribery despite the goal pedro scored

Ode nie..

We are talking about the CL finals in which they started - even if Pedro had scored in those games in which he came on as a sub, I still wouldnt have made reference to them..

If you even wanna use push that excuse of yours, how many minutes each player spend for field??

When it comes to rating forwards, you tell us to use goals and assists.

As you don tie yourself in a tortuous knot of logic, you come dey produce match rating.

Ko ni da fun iwo ati match rating yen

As we speak - Pedro >>>>> Robben + Ribery (by your logic)

bigkesh:
Imagine saying it outside.....Boateng is better than Terry,chai!!!!

At least tell us one player or legend outside Bayern that has ever hailed boateng.... Just 1 ,even if the person is German we will take it.....

Guardiola himself won't even try it......
Reasonable opinions will never be new to the ears, for 100% of us here Ramram is the only person in the world who thinks so........

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."

Say what?

You need another?

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JEROME BOATENG - 8... STAR MAN
Did well. Saw the danger early and put his body on the line. Only one with real pace in the German back line. Suited central role.
Leader: Jerome Boateng was superb in the World Cup final

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Dadehmola:


Ogbeni go siddon

You shoulda gotten your facts right before telling us Cavalho was never nominated!

Even at that, we can only manage to say that Boateng has bossed only for one season and such a nomination actually qualifies to be dubbed as the "sentimental" selection you've been on about since morning.

After boasting here that Boateng didnt get nominated you still have no shame to bow out and admit you have been sonned as usual

Irrelevant!!
Toress dominated a big game.
According to your Logic, he shoulda been nominated for the ballon' dor!!

Fact says Torres was a benchwarmer

Ode nie..

We are talking about the CL finals in which they started - even if Pedro had scored in those games in which he came on as a sub, I still wouldnt have made reference to them..

If you even wanna use push that excuse of yours, how many minutes each player spend for field??

When it comes to rating forwards, you tell us to use goals and assists.

As you don tie yourself in a tortuous knot of logic, you come dey produce match rating.

Ko ni da fun iwo ati match rating yen

As we speak - Pedro >>>>> Robben + Ribery (by your logic)

Match ratings show Robben and Ribery performed better than Pedro

Go sleep on that

And lick your wounds on how you have been schooled again

raumdeuter:


[s]After boasting here that Boateng didnt get nominated you still have no shame to bow out and admit you have been sonned as usual




Fact says Torres was a benchwarmer





Match ratings show Robben and Ribery performed better than Pedro

Go sleep on that

And lick your wounds on how you have been schooled again[/s]

Your logic tells us that :

1. Torres was the best striker in the world In 2012

2. Pedro >>>>>> Ribery + Robben

All hail Dayo the greatest pundit ever LIVETH

How dayo is making dis thread be..

Dadehmola:


Your logic tells us that :

1. Torres was the best striker in the world In 2012

2. Pedro >>>>>> Ribery + Robben

All hail Dayo the greatest pundit ever LIVETH

Was Boateng nominated?

How many finals did Pedro play?

These 2 key lessons you learnt today keep it on your left hand so you dont eat or w@nk with it

He might not ve a world cup medal, still Terry was a great defender at his prime. FIFA and UEFA kindly acknowledge that fact.

Comparing Boateng to Terry is like comparing a Babcock student(Boateng) who had a first class to an OAU/UI student(Terry) who had a 2-1 in the same course. We all know if both went for an interview, the OAU student will get picked first before the Babcock student.

That's how useless Boateng is in anything related to Terry!!

AdeLaNa1:
He might not ve a world cup medal, still Terry was a great defender at his prime. FIFA and UEFA kindly acknowledge that fact.

Comparing Boateng to Terry is like comparing a Babcock student(Boateng) who had a first class to an OAU/UI student(Terry) who had a 2-1 in the same course. We all know if both went for an interview, the OAU student will get picked first before the Babcock student.

That's how useless Boateng is in anything related to Terry!!

This is the type of silly and senseless analogy you would get from someone who has never been to the job market before or just read newspapers for scores

Go present this analogy to anyone and watch them laugh and chase you out of the place

First who told you a UI/OAU 2-1 would be picked before a Babcock 1st class? Na why ipopalomo and those GAYYners dey always stroke you for arsenal thread be that

First class in Babcock is the CL final and world cup final that Boateng won? But 2-1 in OAU is League and Carling cup that Terry won

raumdeuter:


This is the type of silly and senseless analogy you would get from someone who has never been to the job market before or just read newspapers for scores

Go present this analogy to anyone and watch them laugh and chase you out of the place

First who told you a UI/OAU 2-1 would be picked before a Babcock 1st class? Na why ipopalomo and those GAYYners dey always stroke you for arsenal thread be that

First class in Babcock is the CL final and world cup final that Boateng won? But 2-1 in OAU is League and Carling cup that Terry won

I've never been to a job market b4 coz i'm still in my finals. And i know for a fact bcoz i've a close friend that shít happened to. I'm not like u who makes up rubbish on the go all in the name of some twisted analogy that Boateng is a top defender coz he has played in a world cup final. U're just as senseless as those Arsenal fans u mentioned.

Tell me again, why do they call u Ramuzaki??

AdeLaNa1:
I've never been to a job market b4 coz i'm still in my finals. And i know for a fact bcoz i've a close friend that shít happened to. I'm not like u who makes up rubbish on the go all in the name of some twisted analogy that Boateng is a top defender coz he has played in a world cup final. U're just as senseless as those Arsenal fans u mentioned.

Tell me again, why do they call u Ramuzaki??

You are still in your finals no wonder. You better go face your books and stop the delusion that someone would give you a job if you have an inferior grade from UI or OAU

If they say only first class or 2-1 should apply you go ahead and tell them that my 2-1 or 2-2 was from OAU. OAU ko ECOWAS ni

Its the difference between those who live in a real world and those who live in the world of fantasies just like your football knowledge its fully rooted in fantasy and newspaper stand hearsay and following who scored the goal while not paying attention to details

in 5yrs time when you would have graduated and faced the job market lets see if you would still have such asinine opinion that someone would give a job to an inferior grade applicant because he went to OAU or UI.

I am an OAU graduate and I can tell you that opinion is bullshitt of the highest order

bigkesh:

Terry is the player Ramuzaki thinks Boateng is while Boateng is the player Ramudeen thinks Terry is......


Egbon is just getting it mixed up in his head

Talk about James 1:8

This Dayo sef


Your soul needs surgery, Son.

Be arguing like an ignorant pleb.

JayKayMaybachz:
This Dayo sef
Your soul needs surgery, Son.
Be arguing like an ignorant pleb.

Ok you have been noticed. next

raumdeuter:


You are still in your finals no wonder. You better go face your books and stop the delusion that someone would give you a job if you have an inferior grade from UI or OAU

If they say only first class or 2-1 should apply you go ahead and tell them that my 2-1 or 2-2 was from OAU. OAU ko ECOWAS ni

Its the difference between those who live in a real world and those who live in the world of fantasies just like your football knowledge its fully rooted in fantasy and newspaper stand hearsay and following who scored the goal while not paying attention to details

in 5yrs time when you would have graduated and faced the job market lets see if you would still have such asinine opinion that someone would give a job to an inferior grade applicant because he went to OAU or UI.

I am an OAU graduate and I can tell you that opinion is bullshitt of the highest order

Lool! And who said anything about carrying my CV up and down in my clear bag folder looking for a job in 5 yrs time??

Besides its not an opinion. Its something i know has happened b4. And personally, i think its bullshít. Everyone should have equal chances regardless of the school they finished from.

raumdeuter:


Ok you have been noticed. next

#Stale

AdeLaNa1:
He might not ve a world cup medal, still Terry was a great defender at his prime. FIFA and UEFA kindly acknowledge that fact.

Comparing Boateng to Terry is like comparing a Babcock student(Boateng) who had a first class to an OAU/UI student(Terry) who had a 2-1 in the same course. We all know if both went for an interview, the OAU student will get picked first before the Babcock student.

That's how useless Boateng is in anything
related to Terry!!

I hope the emboldened does not take into consideration the Nigeria of today sha?

AdelaNa1:


We all know if both went for an interview, the OAU student will get picked first before the Babcock student.

raumdeuter:


If they say only first class or 2-1 should apply you go ahead and tell them that my 2-1 or 2-2 was from OAU. OAU ko ECOWAS ni

Dayo, Nawa for you oo!

AdeLaNa1:
Lool! And who said anything about carrying my CV up and down in my clear bag folder looking for a job in 5 yrs time??

Besides its not an opinion. Its something i know has happened b4. And personally, i think its bullshít. Everyone should have equal chances regardless of the school they finished from.

If you get to an interview no one gets any preference. Its basically what you know. There are millions of foreign graduate in Nigeria roaming around today never mind OAU and UI

In any big company or multinational Babcock students are treated equally with any 1st generation University in Nigeria unless na Dadehmola and Sons Nigeria Limited Importer exporter and General contractors

In the interview stage everyone is equal unless your interviewer has personal reasons for preferring one school over another.

If there would be any preference atimes it might be given to the Babcock students who are usually younger than the average UI/UNILAG/OAU graduates due to strikes

JayKayMaybachz:
#Stale

So can you shift forward?

raumdeuter:


If you get to an interview no one gets any preference. Its basically what you know. There are millions of foreign graduate in Nigeria roaming around today never mind OAU and UI

In any big company or multinational Babcock students are treated equally with any 1st generation University in Nigeria unless na Dadehmola and Sons Nigeria Limited Importer exporter and General contractors

In the interview stage everyone is equal unless your interviewer has personal reasons for preferring one school over another.

If there would be any preference atimes it might be given to the Babcock students who are usually younger than the average UI/UNILAG/OAU graduates due to strikes

I dunno much about recruitment criteria but for postgraduate admission into some federal Universities, that "certificate equality" you seem to be talking about, Isnt always the case.

Dadehmola:


I dunno much about recruitment criteria but for postgraduate admission into some federal Universities, that "certificate equality" you seem to be talking about, Isnt always the case.

Maybe those Federal University are just using that bias to props themselves up.

I worked at multinationals in Nigeria and I saw Babcock students there a lot. Especially these organisations who had an age limit of not older than 25.

In the company you have people from every school UNILAG, UNAD, UI, Ife, Ilorin, LAUTECH, Babcock Covenant Nsukka ABU ABSU sef dey

Recruiters are after smart people and you can find smart people in every school. if the decision comes to a smart Babcock and a smart UI student then personal bias might come in e.g the interviwer alma mata or age of applicant

The multinational I worked for before I left Naija, In my set, the current star performer after over a decade working there is a State University graduate