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Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Busybody2(f): 7:15am On May 17, 2012 |
Lekky 2: Dear Coogar, We don't need to fully go into details that you are mostly to be blamed for this. Even here in the so-called western world, there is the term called CAVEAT EMPTOR when it comes to car transactions, meaning "buyer beware" meaning the onus is on you to conduct a full check before paying for the car and parting with your money because you have no recourse in law otherwise once you add one extra mile to the forecourt miles. But nevertheless, you did a very commendable thing by relying on the good oldfashioned thing called trust. . . You dropped the ball big time by sanctioning your driver to continue with an overheated car with 5 warning lights on, what the heck were you thinking!!! Moving on swiftly, someone that wants to scam you would never have gone into indepth details about their place of work which should at least give you an inkling that Damola1 the seller is NOT a charlatan. Yes he previously communicated with you via email that he would refund your money with a postdated check in a month, and he is still here and has also made known on this thread that he will cancel his travel and meet with you to refund your money in two weeks, so there is nothing wrong in embracing this. Now Alhaji Lekky, you said all opinions are welcome, and my own is- is there anything else you require Alhaji LEKKY in lieu or in addition to this gentlemanly agreement? 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by babamann(m): 7:23am On May 17, 2012 |
next time, holla at me when you want to buy a car |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by ZUBY77(m): 7:29am On May 17, 2012 |
Both the seller and the buyer are to be blamed here. Here is Nigeria where people add a little lies when selling or even buying things. Example... Go to a boutique and price a shirt, the seller will tell you that he bought the shirt for 5000 and the buyer will say that he has only 4000 with him.funnily at the end, the seller will accept 4500. Now a shirt that was purchased for 5k was old at 4k5 to a man who had only 4k with him. My point is that you have to be present before making such transactions. The buyer should have visited Lagos after the initial 500K. My advice is to buy a new Engine. You can get a fairly used Engine in Ladipo Lagos or Onitsha Nigeria. I import used Engines from Japan and Singapore but i dont have Rav4. I can inquire for you but i am based in Onitsha and Enugu. Meanwhile if you agree to buy it down here, you will need to come down here to see it. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Ninilowo(m): 7:36am On May 17, 2012 |
A spade is a spade and not a big spoon. DAMOLA 1 is a FRAUDULENT guy. Simple. Return the dough back unconditionally or be ready to be dealt with. I do wonded when I see ridiculus prized they put on vehicles. Awon omo OLE. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 7:43am On May 17, 2012 |
Let's stop this blame game,and let the parties involved reach Ǎ̜̣̍ consensus. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Martini101(m): 7:46am On May 17, 2012 |
Arysexy: to those telling alhaji to return the car and get his money, didnt u read d condition the seller is giving? he should return the car the way it was and wait when the car is sold, that means alhaji will have to spend to fix the car by almost changing the engine, so y return it after spending so much to put the car in order?. Gbam. U just spoke my mind! Why return the car when he has gotten it to itz feet? |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Konnektions146(m): 7:49am On May 17, 2012 |
its a pity but this is not good for car dealers on nairaland. OP, please take it easy as yu have and fix the car, then decide if yu will return or use . if yu decide to use, try and get used to the initial encounters with the seller. if yu decide to to recieve a refund, then mske out time to visit de seller and get a new ride yurself. good luck |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 7:51am On May 17, 2012 |
Lekki2, car dealers don finish for abuja? If ¶ am τ̅o do such biz, ¶ will nt travel far frm my location, exept ¶ am buyin a direct tokunbor frm cotonou or apapa whalf. Lekki2, u r greedy but unfutunately for u, damola Is more than a match! Nigerian used cars r crap! |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by bigcycs: 7:53am On May 17, 2012 |
Not everybody will be able to travel to inspect items been paid for that's d idea behind E-COMMERCE in d first place..to provide a virtual platform wer goods are bought/sold without necessarily requiring a meet by both parties. Early 2011,I bought me a blackberry on Ebay and I paid 250euros for it paid shipping cost and the phone was sent all d way to me here in calabar..am actually using that blackberry to post this comment, not a single complain.that's d beauty of e-commerce that's HOW IT OUGHT to BE if IT MUST GROW in NAIJA!!!!!! My point is issues like dis flies in the face of e-commerce transactions, let's face it how do we expect to grow this industry if sellers cannot at least be a lil bit more truthful. NAIRALAND owes its users a service to verify this ads/ads owners, NL is entitled to a small cut from every successful transaction via its platform hence it owes itself as well as its users a duty to verify claims and protect its integrity.. Every other similar platform of e-commerce does dat. Finally ,at the risk of been harshly critical of damola1,I have to say Seller was dishonest from onset, a clear case of deceit. he's been here and contributing to the thread only goes to show he is indeed a smart guy and knows exactly what he is doing, and I know the game he is playing and he already got "fans" on here. he is humane though for bothering to reply cos it will be easier to just disappear from the "radar" so I'd add seller has integrity and may yet be good to do business with in future depending how he handles this so Let all the NLnders sympathetic to damola1 ask him to arrange a meet with buyer, 2geda they both go and check d vehicle out, access the cost of repairs for said car To be brought back to original condition before sale ,assess already incurred expenditure on the part of dissatisfied buyer resolve the monetary differences and seller should make a complete immediate refund. I won't add compensation cuz buyer is only mildly culpable for trusting "Nigerians" on e-commerce. And let nobody claim "busy" as if seller intends to redeem his battered reputation, he should go all outta his way and do this already!! Talk is too too cheap,damola can keep blowing hot air here nobody ever figured why shylock couldn't take his pound of flesh back ,how is buyer gonna go about returning the car "back to how it was before sale"..dats the catch and damola1 knows dat too well.. Lesson: naija has not reached the stage where u can trust someone physically not to talk of online matter so all potential buyers beware. 2.Let NLs CEO decide whether he wants to run e-commerce transactions and actually take steps to ensure honesty and intergrity cuz money is involved and he stands to gain/grow this site. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Busybody2(f): 7:58am On May 17, 2012 |
djeezy: I am a Lawyer, this is an interesting case devoid of uberimae fidei, inter alia. OP, can file a suit for status quo ante or nay liquidated damages provided that he can prove that the car was faulty before purchase, that's the onus upon him. He who alleges must prove. Albeit, it is for the court to decide, business eficacy and officious by stander. Was there a warrantee or guarantee? Let me not enlarge upon the mark ipso facto lest i ignite the quest for justice. Whilst reading this thread vide supra i noticed a term "counter offer" ergo @lekky you can sue. Feel free to consult and seek my legal advice. Ubi jus ibi remedium. When you are done with being high up in the clouds away-with-the-fairies and you return to planet earth with a bump, put on your thinking cap Sir. This was a "private" sale, not a transaction with a Dealer, which means the onus is on the buyer to carry out the appropriate mechanical and background checks to make sure the car is sound. The buyer waived his already "minute" blink-and-you-miss-it legal right, the moment he purchased the car without the requisite inspection. And pray tell where he will get the burden of proof to absolve himself of any culpability with all the incriminating emails already weaving their way all over the airwaves huh? And remember the car was roadworthy at the point of sale too. Yes, the buyer can sue, but he is not entitled to a full refund, he can only sue for the losses incurred, and then he would also have to pay his Solicitors fees too, thereby still leaving a shortfall in his pocket. So his best bet IMHO is to accept Damola1's "good gesture" offer and chalk it down to experience. Disclaimer: This is only applicable to private sales, before any Dealer starts thinking . . . |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Busybody2(f): 8:01am On May 17, 2012 |
djeezy: I am a Lawyer, this is an interesting case devoid of uberimae fidei, inter alia. OP, can file a suit for status quo ante or nay liquidated damages provided that he can prove that the car was faulty before purchase, that's the onus upon him. He who alleges must prove. Albeit, it is for the court to decide, business eficacy and officious by stander. Was there a warrantee or guarantee? Let me not enlarge upon the mark ipso facto lest i ignite the quest for justice. Whilst reading this thread vide supra i noticed a term "counter offer" ergo @lekky you can sue. Feel free to consult and seek my legal advice. Ubi jus ibi remedium. When you are done with being high up in the clouds away-with-the-fairies and you return to planet earth with a bump, put on your thinking cap Sir. This was a "private" sales, not a transaction with a Dealer, which means the onus is on the buyer to carry out the appropriate mechanical and background checks to make sure the car is sound. The buyer waived his "already minute" legal right, the moment he purchased the car without the requisite inspection. And pray tell where he will get the burden of proof to absolve himself of any culpability with all the incriminating emails already weaving their way all over the airwaves huh? And remember the car was roadworthy at the point of sale. Yes, the buyer can sue, but he is not entitled to a full refund, he can only sue for the losses incurred, and then he would also have to pay his Solicitors fees too, thereby still leaving a shortfall in his pocket. So his best bet IMHO is to accept Damola1's offer and chalk it down to experience. Disclaimer: This is only applicable to private sales, before any Dealer starts thinking . . . 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by clemmonce(m): 8:12am On May 17, 2012 |
ALL FRAUDULENT SELLERS ON NAIRALAND SHALL DIE A SUDDEN DEATH. CAN SOMEBODY SAY AMEN. DIS IS THE REASON WHY SOME PEOPLE DONT MOVE FORWARD IN LIFE SCAMING PEOPLE HERE AND THERE ANY MONEY U GET FRADULENTLY YOU WIL NEVA USE IT 4 SMETHING GOOD. TAKE NOTE |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by fashizie(m): 8:14am On May 17, 2012 |
ok.i woke up to meet this topic.very very sad..even if d car is less than a mill.its still painful. now for those few persons tryin to take sides with Damola tink well and hard if u were in lekkys shoes. beyond d posters annoyin trust n his drivers serious display of carelessnes,it doznt in any way invalidate d fact that damola d seller was highly fraudulent.lag to abj aint surulere to v.i.a car must b on-point to to get dere.u cannot tell me d seller aint aware of deez probs.nt even mentioning lack of utmost good faith. and am tired of d whole braggin rites on nl.if u are rich,dats money in ur a/c.if u r dat paid,u wont sell a liability to a trustin n unsuspectin customer.instead u ll be open wit d faults of dat rav. when bad tins happen to people,u see peolle in awe nt knowin d wrongs dey ve piled up. THOUGH D POSTER SEEM RELUCTANT COS OF FRUSTRATION TO ACCEPT UR DEAL,BUT I LL STRONGLY ADVISE U DAMOLA TO START CALLIN HIM TO APLOGISE N LOOK FOR A SOLTN PROMPTLY SO DAT BOTH OF U CAN VE PEACE. FACELESS AS DIS SITE MAYBE.U MITE BE A GUD MAN DAMOLA.TRUST.DNT LET 2MILL IMPACT NEGATIVLY ON UR DEST.U GUYS MITE END UP BEEN PALS IF HANDLED WELL.N VE A DRINK OVER IT. @poster put dat car in a drivable state n sort it out wit him.wuld strongly advice u dnt use it. WHEN U SEE AN ISSUE.IT DOZNT TAKE U TO BE A GENIUS TO SMELL SOME TRUTH.A THIRD EYE IS WATCHIN BOTH OF U.BE WARNED |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Effwazobia: 8:15am On May 17, 2012 |
djeezy: I am a Lawyer, this is an interesting case devoid of uberimae fidei, inter alia. OP, can file a suit for status quo ante or nay liquidated damages provided that he can prove that the car was faulty before purchase, that's the onus upon him. He who alleges must prove. Albeit, it is for the court to decide, business eficacy and officious by stander. Was there a warrantee or guarantee? Let me not enlarge upon the mark ipso facto lest i ignite the quest for justice. Whilst reading this thread vide supra i noticed a term "counter offer" ergo @lekky you can sue. Feel free to consult and seek my legal advice. Ubi jus ibi remedium. Counsel, quit with all this legal mumo jumbo. The legal system simply do not work in Nigeria. What you are advising the buyer to do is spend more money by telling him to seek your legal advice. Are you going to do it pro-bono? No. Abeg seller and buyer make una try to resolve this thing amicably. " DO NOT SEEK LEGAL ADVICE OVER THIS. IT WILL STAY IN COURT FOR EVER AND YOU WILL PAY THROUGH YOUR NOSE, NIGERIAN LEGAL SYSTEM IS A HOT MESS, SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THE MONEY INVOLVED IS NOT THAT MUCH TO GO TO COURT" Seller consider the fact that the buyer did what most people would never do (that is strictly relying on trust). That's my 2cents. Good luck to you both |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by igbonla(m): 8:21am On May 17, 2012 |
Busy_body: And you wonder why Nigerians resolve disputes using some other means Interesting discuss, hope all parties find peace at the end. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by yongnoble(m): 8:26am On May 17, 2012 |
I've been following this topic and reading every single post especially btw the op and damola1 and it seems that whenever he (damola1) addresses questions raised by the op he always skips one fact, admitting that the car was accidental and also lied about servicing the car at elizade because after seeing the pictures, especially that of the welded chasis, even a blind man can see that it was done by road side welders. My conclusion, damola1 is a FRAUD, a poor one at that. 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Coldfaya(m): 8:30am On May 17, 2012 |
Tho Demola seems a bit honest about refunding (after d deed has been done), i dont see any need of d BUYER returning d car after he might have fixed d car. Somtimes its lyk dat, just accept dat dis na badt market. At least u'v learnt in d hard way tho, n opened our eyes. Just fix it n enjoy ur money. #Peace# |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by legendprac(m): 8:35am On May 17, 2012 |
No matter how we look @ it, damola's reputation has taken a Hit. How he handles that matters. Beliv me, even those in support of him will not wanna do business wit him wit how tins look now. He might be a good man, but he will have to offer more than he is offering and be ready to incur some losses n stress to be able to save his reputation. One tin is dat, if not saved, it might cost him a very good business deal in the future. That's life. But, damola is just a Username, he can change it moro. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by NaijaNaWaa: 8:36am On May 17, 2012 |
(SORRY I DIDNT READ PREVIOUS COMMENTS): This is very very unfair. Pls return his money. And buyer sef, you mumu no be small. How on earth can u buy a car that u didn't inspect, from someone that you don't know and online? Are people this ignorant? You deserve 24 strokes of the cane. Are there no car sellers in Abuja? Even if u paid more in Abj you would've avoided all these troubles. And why did you go into doing major repairs on a car that you just bought? You would have called the seller the moment it started overheating ad ask for a refund. Anyway, Mr seller, I strongly believe that you're aware that the car is faulty. He made very stuppidd mistake but please refund his money in full. In future, let no one buy anything online without seeing it korokoro. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 8:37am On May 17, 2012 |
Good Day Alhaji, Sorry for what happened to you, am so happy you have the courage to publicly announce this on NL, i was so ashamed and bitter to say even a word when it happened to me during the subsidy era, upon all the hardship that time, a NLder had to sell a bus for almost a million naira, i was happy to have acquired the bus very cheap only to later discover that the engine had been changed, as i converse now, the bus is parked at my friends workshop because all my drivers has refused to drive the car complaining of one engine problem or the other, now i want to take my time and buy another engine so the bus can start work because am also into transport biz. it was my fault for not inspecting the car but i was very busy to travel to lagos besides i know this very guy in person, he assured me that the bus is heaven and earth. i have learnt my lesson though. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by In4MATIC1: 8:39am On May 17, 2012 |
damola1: please sir, can you tell us how dirt got into a radiator that has been serviced by Elizade? Also are you saying ELIZADE certified a vehicle as serviced with FIVE Indicator lights on? @ lekky, pls scan that vehicle IMMEDIATELY with a professional scan tool so you know what you bought. 2 Likes |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by hotwax: 8:40am On May 17, 2012 |
I am very sorry to hear this, I am supposed to travel by thursday, but will gladly cancel and arrange to pick up the vehicle tommorrow, but we must have to come to a mutual understanding. But I can see that Damola has conscience ooh. Mr Damola, pls do more... |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by stagger: 8:43am On May 17, 2012 |
Some people mumu no be small. OP, were you bewitched? Kai! |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 8:45am On May 17, 2012 |
legendprac: No matter how we look @ it, damola's reputation has taken a Hit. How he handles that matters. Beliv me, even those in support of him will not wanna do business wit him wit how tins look now. He might be a good man, but he will have to offer more than he is offering and be ready to incur some losses n stress to be able to save his reputation. One tin is dat, if not saved, it might cost him a very good business deal in the future. That's life. But, damola is just a Username, he can change it moro. yes, you are right...however, the credibility of other Car Dealers is at stake. I'm afraid. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by In4MATIC1: 8:46am On May 17, 2012 |
Malabeni: I'm begining to see sincerity on the part of Damola. He has done what any honourable business man does,offering refund in a veried case of dissatisfaction. @poster,heed to the advice of bigx,return the car and take back your money. I can see responsibility from both parties. @poster,please if you choose not to take the refund,do lay down your grudge and bicker no more. Good business reputation costs a fortune to build. Enough said. sir, read between the lines, 1. return in the "good condition" bought. 2. Refunding will be done in about a month when the vehicle is sold... Hmmm i wonder o. I see litigation here. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by cyril83(m): 8:48am On May 17, 2012 |
Lekky 2: Beware Of Buying Fraudulent Nigerian Used Vehiclesu dare not tell me ur story is real,I guess its cooked up story in other to wet our appetite diz mornin,mind u if its real,it then means u r a m.o.r.o.n infact u r a bagger,@1st u claimed u paid sum of 2m for 2008 rav4,my guy u dey craze? 2nd,u claimed u paid di whole barr for a dude u neva met witout an inspection...abeg hia na NL no be Naija pings or pin share wey u fit catch babes wit ur useless story |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by pato405(m): 8:49am On May 17, 2012 |
Really sad tale. I am not exactly a car dealer on NL. I am not qualified to be described as one, but I've sold 2 cars here. as a matter of fact the last was a Benz C-class which I published the VIN for ratification. I must say that till date, the buyers remain extremely delighted they bought the cars. No problems whatsoever. the guy who bought the benz travelled all the way from ife to Lagos to pay and pick up the car, finished his transaction early enough, got the car registered the same day and drove back to ife the same day. he called to also attest to the fact that he enjoyed his ride home. we are now friends and he still asks about when next I'll bring in another ride. in essence, there are still honest dealers on NL OP's case is quite pathetic but my question is why would anyone ignore warning lights on a car dashboard? are those who designed it foools? you dont expect the car to scream with voice hitting the roof that it's sick. the car has communicated with you in the best way it can that you should steer clear. what do you expect? |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by saviola24: 8:55am On May 17, 2012 |
@OP, hw are u sure dat if u return d car dat damola da crook wont dupe u again thereby eating his cake and having it back. Op do wat eva ur mind tells u.just like u said "once bitten twice shy" |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by cyril83(m): 8:59am On May 17, 2012 |
damola1: Good Evening Sir,my guy u be scammer...ole ni e joor |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by blackrules1(m): 9:00am On May 17, 2012 |
@ Damola, Trust me, even if you hadn't any fraudulent intention, your comments here so far shows you do. You show no sympathy at all, and why must you return his money a month after, or two weeks after,as you typed? @ Lekki, It's your cross, carry it. Why must you trust a Nigerian (like me) - in a deal worth 2M, you steal am ni? You be politician? You never sent someone (a good mechanic) to inspect, yet you paid a 'first payment' of 500k infact I dey vex, I don't have you time now. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 9:03am On May 17, 2012 |
ZUBY77: Both the seller and the buyer are to be blamed here. Hello Zuby pls can i get a commuter hiace big bumber engine from you and how much is it? email me pls yeswecan991@yahoo.com |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 9:12am On May 17, 2012 |
I read the first page alone and I can say Damola is a crook , he never mentioned the case of the accidented part of the car to Alhaji and even now has cleverly dodged that part of this thread. Here is my take on the whole issue : Damola knew about the condition of the vehicle ( radiator , accident and indicator lights ) , knew also the engine isn't in good condition and played on Alhaji's naivety. He is dishonest and people shouldn't do business with him or those that validate him , you know what they say about birds of a feather , and he should be banned from this forum. I have bought and sold on this forum and I never give false info on what I sell. Alhaji this should serve as a lesson to you too and always find time to fully inspect whatever you are buying be it online or offline. |
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