inspired_m:

[b]@mxxpunkxx,

I thought this matter was settled Yesterday Between BUYER and SELLER.

I knew when this Vehicle was Shipped Into the Country For damola1, It was Clean title, No Accident and Qualified for BuyBack Guarantee, The History Report was Linked to the Other Thread.

The Cost to Land the Vehicle was around 3.5m Naira.

Going down the Line and seeing the SAME vehicle Being Advertised for 2m Naira, that was a Big Knock Off the Retail Value and that was what warranted my Comment.

My Comment was Premised on the Fact that it was a Clean title Vehicle With No Issues, Even though the BUYER ALREADY MADE A DEPOSIT Way TIME Before My Comment.

However, Damola1 WAS WRONG not to have disclosed to the Buyer that Vehicle was involved in a Previous Accident Locally But was FIXED and He still used the vehicle for quite some time Before deciding to Dispose it.
FULL Disclosure is germane when Dealing on a Used Vehicle.

The Driver was Also Guilty of Gross Negligence Both By Driving an Over heated Car and By Engaging the Services of Roadside Mechanics ( Quacks )

Be that as it may I would Suggest The BUYER and SELLER Agree on a Mutual Agreement as to Resolving the Issue, In Actual fact, I would Suggest that Damola1 TAKE UP THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF FIXING the Vehicle back to a Good and Drivable State AT NO FINANCIAL COST to Alhaji Lekky2 so as to Compensate him for the TRUST he Reposed in you and For the Stress and Inconveniences Incurred.

I also Want to reiterate that We have Honest and Men of Integrity Here on the Auto Section, On a Daily basis Several Millions of Naira Exchange Hands, With Both Buyer and Seller HAPPY at the End, Hiccups here and there are inevitable and when they do Occur we try Our best to Find amicable Solutions to them.

I Hope Both Parties would Heed to My Suggestion, the responsibility Being More on The Seller.

Cheers

Inspired.[/b]

Lekky 2: Beware Of Buying Fraudulent Nigerian Used Vehicles

Hello Nlders, this is to advice interested members who may be interested in buying registered vehicle on NL to be wary of some fraudulent advert.

I want members to learn from my mistake so as not to fall prey to fraudsters.Though i hardly talk on NL, but i had a very bitter experience recently as a result of my foolishness arising as a result of trust i had on a Nlder.

I happen to be the buyer of the wine coloured 2008 RAV4 advertised by Damola1. When I saw the pics he posted, I was interested and negotiated the car to N2m from his asking price of N2.250m which he agreed. After then, I asked of the condition of the engine or any fixes to be done on the car after purchase since I am resident in Abuja. He told me the car is in a perfct condition and that there are no fixes to be made. He stated his reason for selling the car as wishing to acquire another car. Bur because of my tight schedule and eagerness to buy the car, I foolishly made a deposit of 500k to his gtb coporate acct without inspection on a Tuesday morning. Reason for my action was that I relied on the verbal assurance he gave me.

Later on, on the preceeding Friday morning i completed the balance payment of N1.5m into his account after which i sent someone to help me pick the car and bring to Abuja on a saturday morning. But alas!No sooner the guy picked the car and the first thing he noticed was an alignment problem on the tyres which was fixed by the seller in a filling station at Ikeja.Then he entered the Lagos-Ibadan expressway to start journey to Abuja and the car started doing high temperature. A bottle of Radiator coolant and a bag of purewater purchased on the highway would not help matter until the car finally broke down at sapade (A village near Ibadan) loosing it's top cylinder gasket.It was the intervention of passers-by that helped push the car to a local mechanic workshop who diagnosed that the top cylinder gasker is burnt together with one sensor cable. This was fixed, even though it cost me fortune. But the most annoying part was that when the top cylinder was removed, it was discovered that the car was accidented as it has weldings on it's chasis frame as seen in the attached pictures.

The engine has been finally coupled, but the car still refuses to start and as at the time of writing this report, it is still at sapade.The person whom i contracted to bring it got frustrated today when all effores gerared at getting the vehicle started proved abortive and had to leave back for Abuja tonight saying he can no longer continue to stay in the bush as this is posing a security threat to his life.

I know i had to pay a big price for my fooloishness for not inspecting the car, but then, does it mean one can no longer trust his fellow country men on cars adverised on NL?

When all these problems were relayed back to the seller, all he could told me was to return the car back to him in the same condition with which it was sold to me and that he will issue me a posdated cheque which i am going to cash one month after i had deliver the vehicle back to him.

Once bitten they say twice shy, i think i had learnt my lessons in a very hard way and would want fellow Nlders to take a cue from it.

This is not the first time i will be buying a vehicle un-ispected as i had bought a 2003 Highlander from US via a dealer in lagos before.
Your comments on this issue are welcome.

Ibadiarann:

I wonder how you made your money, If not why would you spend N2m on something you did not inspect. Am surprised. If you had worked for the money, you may not have spent it that way. You deserve it. Good for you.

Temistatics 007: @alhaji,in my opinion,you are not here to seek people's opinions,but for sympathy,reason is(you have made up your mind on what to do
Pertaining to the driver,so if alhaji says that you should put your hand in fire,you would abi? 5 lights were on,car was overheating,you stil had the mind to drive it to IBAFO from berger,25 minutes drive,in an express wayi,he needs to be sacked

calculusx: When a deal is too good to be true, then its probably is. I'm not a lawyer nor a judge and can't judge in this case but sellers owe buyers a duty by disclosing the condition of what they are buying before making payment. When i sell a salvage car, i disclose it by not only showing carfax report, i also show pre-purchase pictures. We must also admit majority of Nigerians don't believe in the truth, if you tell them the truth, they shy away from it.

@ OP, you have treated the matter with maturity and i salute your courage. May Allah pay you back the lost

damola1: Good Evening Sir,

I continue to remind you, your trust is absolutely not misplaced whenever you deal with myself. Absolutely not misplaced. I don't sell cars, this is my first sold car here.

Please have the car sent back, and a full refund will be arranged accordingly. You got my baby for a steal.

In response to your post:

Lekky 2 wrote:


Please be aware, your driver wrote in an email to me; 15 May 2012 06:47

' It started overheating right from Berger Lagos, even the radiator coolant and bags of sachet water I brought could not subside the overheating and by the time it got to Redemption camp the temperature had risen to the highest therefore burnt the top cylinder casket and the engine stopped working.'

I have used only 16k miles in this car since 2008, and it's never had over heating problems, but that aside, Please, why would anyone drive a car that started overheating from Berger to Redemption camp. Do you know the distance or time covered at all? was he blind all through? and am sure he's probably blowing the AC all through.. When you called me, you made it clear, the radiator was blocked, and that it'll have to be flushed. Don't you think if your driver had simply taken the basic precaution of checking why there's a temp rise at berger , the cylinder casket wouldn't have had any issues?

Lekky 2 wrote:


I am very sorry to hear this, I am supposed to travel by thursday, but will gladly cancel and arrange to pick up the vehicle tommorrow, but we must have to come to a mutual understanding.

I am respected among peers for customer satisfaction not here anyways, especially after sales support, and my motive for being in any dealing with anyone is to have a win win situation. I will try everything within my capacity to see that we both smile.


Thank you.

Damola

omega25red: it almost sounds like the driver of the car had the air condition on full blast in the car. also, the driver kept driving even after he noticed that the car was over heating. also seems like the poster didn't take the new car for a tune up before he got on the road. Also who buys a car sight on seen? i mean seriously poster you must take the blame for this one. If you went to court you might get your money back for the "Lemon law" but most of the evidence shows its you fault because you saw warning signs and still drove the car. you should have returned it as soon as you saw the warning signs.

oweniwe: a beg its not d driver's fault. The driver called alhaji to inform him about d 5 warning lights on but HE TOLD D DRIVER TO IGNORE THE WARNING LIGHTS drive d car to abuja like that. D driver was only acting on alhaji's instruction

ekitikan:


jesus is not a murderer.

Busy_body:


Abeg stop demonising my beloved Nigeria, Nigerian law is "primarily" based on UK's "common" law". So in Great Britain, as far as this issue is concerned, the buyer paying after "inspection" has voluntarily waived goodbye to his money. The only legal recourse available to him is to take the buyer to Court with the burden of proof and sue for the losses incurred. But driving an overheated car with 5 warning light on, gives him no leg to stand on and the Court would hold him liable for this magnanimous oversight, meaning that he will not get his full money back in Court.

Without dragging this case further, the Buyer deserves a standing ovation for the utmost trust he employed, likewise the Seller's too for his goodwill gesture offer.


Hmmm.

aieromon: Pause,ok rewind.
Would anybody on NL have bought the car if the owner posted its accident history?NO

Thanks.