LegatusGlaber:


I rock a Peugeot 406 bro and the phobia is just what it is; phobia.

Ruggedity, fuel economy, reliability, to mention but a few are the things you are missing.

Why not give it a trial bro

LegatusGlaber:


I rock a Peugeot 406 bro and the phobia is just what it is; phobia.

Ruggedity, fuel economy, reliability, to mention but a few are the things you are missing.

Why not give it a trial bro

oluwaseunla:


While I'm not really a Peugeot fan (save for the 406), this generalisation is completely false.

Funny thing is, there is a guy in my street that has been using the 607 since I knew him (like 4 years ago), as the only car, and generally, he has what I will term 'normal car issues'. Even that one is periodical. Admittedly, he maintains well, and he reads up on his car. I know you probably have seen peugeots giving their owners lots of issues, but did those owners ever found out the reason why?

I think truth is, most of us are too lazy to find out what we need to, to keep our vehicles running. Each car is peculiar, but with right handling, most cars will run as long as you wish them to.

abatically:


406 still OK, but 607? That's a big NO NO.

Ikenna351:


Just like Joseph Campbell said and I quote:

"The Cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek".

Good morning everyone.

Ikenna

praxisnetworks:
well I have used a 505 srd...504 bestline...206....all I can say is if you want a car that will not give you "normal" issues...flee peugeot...the cars that sell massively sustainably have a reason they sell 607 in particular aint one of them bro...buying a car engine 406 wagon for 160k? kilode? when a w202 C class engine goes for less than 50k!....not even an ML engine costs that must....not to talk of BMW e36 models....if you are driving a pejo and smiling you really dont know what you are missing! A simple timing belt cut ruins your engine...interference systems ko?... I owe no apology for informing people about the evils of a pijo...ask yourself why its only one person that runs that abracadabra of a vehicle on your street for 4 years! A car that you will use and the cost of repairs will put you at the mercy of the mech....who will now have to buy food 4 U n call cards aint worth the stress!!! I saw these evils happening to people who are dying to own a pijo.....no jokes....Ikenna may know about pijo n some individuals but how accessible are they? do they render assistance for free? why enslave yourself to a car that help can not be readily found...which you cant confidently give the keys to your spouse or a friend without being aprehensive!!!!! flee again I say flee the hassles of pijo which some have tagged "abuse n normal" issues! Buy a car that will not drive you....but which you will drive with pleasure...

oluwaseunla:


I agree with you that people who know about the Peugeot are not so much

praxisnetworks:
well I have used a 505 srd...504 bestline...206....all I can say is if you want a car that will not give you "normal" issues...flee peugeot...the cars that sell massively sustainably have a reason they sell 607 in particular aint one of them bro...buying a car engine 406 wagon for 160k? kilode? when a w202 C class engine goes for less than 50k!....not even an ML engine costs that must....not to talk of BMW e36 models....if you are driving a pejo and smiling you really dont know what you are missing! A simple timing belt cut ruins your engine...interference systems ko?... I owe no apology for informing people about the evils of a pijo...ask yourself why its only one person that runs that abracadabra of a vehicle on your street for 4 years! A car that you will use and the cost of repairs will put you at the mercy of the mech....who will now have to buy food 4 U n call cards aint worth the stress!!! I saw these evils happening to people who are dying to own a pijo.....no jokes....Ikenna may know about pijo n some individuals but how accessible are they? do they render assistance for free? why enslave yourself to a car that help can not be readily found...which you cant confidently give the keys to your spouse or a friend without being aprehensive!!!!! flee again I say flee the hassles of pijo which some have tagged "abuse n normal" issues! Buy a car that will not drive you....but which you will drive with pleasure...

Ikenna351:


Smartchoice, I think its high time you became man enough to stop running around. The more you change your identity, the more untrustworthy you become. I know you are Smartchoice because I am Nairaland moderator, so I know. Because, when I comment, anyone that has been following Ikenna351 would know, yes, it was from Ikenna, even if someone tries to impersonate. The same, when you post, its written all over your post. So opening and deactivating your accounts every now and then, shows a lot of suspicion.

Now since you really want the truth to come out, let me share with everyone what I know about you and your 206.

You posted in the Peugeot community and later called me on the phone, excitedly informing us about your new acquisition, a cub Peugeot 206. You, of course being you, started complaining of few things about the lion. I asked you few questions and came to a conclusion. I don't remember your exact words, but I told you the 206 has been electrically abused, because of symptoms you described to me on the phone. I think I told you too if its possible to return and pick another, and you said the Peugeot 206 was a gift or something or you acquired the lion from a relation. Then, I told you the only way that Lion would serve you well was to revert or fix the abuse done on the electrics, to prevent the BSI unit from crashing completely, which has started showing signs.

That was when Diagbox came into the picture, since I recommended that you plugged in PP2000 in the lion to know the extent of the abuse and gradually correct them. I asked you to bring the lion to me, thinking you stay in Abuja, but you said you don't stay in Abuja. You indicated interest in buying Diagbox from, which later turned out you the way I wouldn't want to state here. You called me a scam or thief the other day in this thread. If I had wanted to respond to that, the world would see truly who is a scam among us. But lets not go there.

I could remember how you would always come to the Peugeot community to complain about the poor Peugeot 206 in your possession, and how I kept telling you that until those abuse on the electrics are reversed or corrected, you will expect more things to complain of.

I could remember how you called me one day and complained bitterly how you took the Peugeot 206 to a quack auto electrician to fix horn for you, only to have the Lion refused to start after he must have done a terrible connection on the poor lion. I recalled how I told you that if the lion, even with abuse electrics, was starting before the moment you drove into the electrician place, but now refused to start after he messed up the wires, then the electrician probably is the type that couldn't differentiate between a spanner and screwdriver. I asked you to tell the electrician to reverse whatever he has connected on the lion, for a start. Eventually, you posted in the house how you get the car started by yourself. Now, tell yourself the truth, who would you blame? The poor Lion or you?

Let me cut the story short, it baffles me that you hated Peugeot that much, yet you are so bitter that I removed you from Peugeot community I created. I sent you an SMS, explaining to you why I had to remove you, because you didn't fit in. The world I created isn't fit for you. I even explain to you that you can create your "Anti-Peugeot community" where you can gather people like you, so that you guys can eat negative, sleep negatives, swim in negatives and any negative experience you could ever wanted. But that's not the world I created. I created a Peugeot community, a Lions Den, where Lions and lionesses come together to share love, appreciate and respect each other, appreciate what they have and live a happy fun. I didn't create a sorrowful and antagonistic house. For example, if Peugeot cars are that nightmare to their owners like you preach, how come my Peugeot community Kaduna house members had their get-together yesterday and had fun, stayed up till 1am this morning before they departed? Was I there with them? Do I live in Kaduna? Did I mandate them to meet? Do I give them money to repair their lions if they were that troublesome? Do you think if their lions were nightmares to them, they would meet, spend their money and chat with each other till that time? That's the world I created. People that have experienced how good their lions are and decided to find how they will continue to enjoy the peace their lions give them. That's the world I created. So, again, sorry, with your attitude, you don't fit in. You can create your own Peugeot group on WhatsApp and fill it win with your kind.

A peace of advice. I don't think your issue with Peugeot is truly Peugeot, I think its YOU. Have some reflections. Go through all your posts since you joined Nairaland under Smartchoice username. All your posts have been full of negativity. Even the Benz you seem to be fan of, you complain of that too. How many of your Benz have you complained how their engines have failed on you and you replace them? How many times did you complain of electrical issues on your Benz w202? It's very simple, you can have it trouble-free, as long as all you look for from your surroundings or what you have is negatives or how bad they are. It will always become your experience. Prayer is not that 100 prayer points you make noise every day in Church or in your house. Prayer is that thought and feelings you hold inside you, not the noise people make. Because, your thoughts and feelings determines your words and actions, and that what manifests your reality. God has given each and everyone of us to create his reality, so if you keep seeking for negatives or enjoy talking or complaining about every little thing around you, it becomes your reality. Because that's truly what you want and you will get more of what will make you complain everytime, in all spheres of your life. I am trying to tell you how to live your life, but you can't get it otherwise if you keep this lifestyle. It's your life. Your call!

Now, lets come to your comment on Peugeot timing belt. Last month, a colleague of mine that drives Toyota Camry was driving home. His car suddenly stalled and refused to start. He called me, even though it was late at night. I had to leave my house to Area 3 to get a towing Van, to go and meet him and tow the car to office. I got back home around 12am. I even mentioned it in the Peugeot community II that night, which you would remember, since you were still a member of the house then. The next day, his mechanic came and said it was the timing belt that broke. Now, that's for the Toyota Camry. This last week, a colleague of mine too was driving his Honda Accord V6 (EOD) and the car suddenly stalled as well and refused to start. He had to tow the car to Apo that day. He later got call from his mechanic that it was the timing belt (or chain, I don't remember the exact mechanic words) that broke and that it damaged the valves too.

Now the question is, why is that when something that could happen to any other car happens to a Peugeot car, the some uninformed people make noise about it? Besides, whose fault it is that people carelessly (some unintentionally) refuse to replace their timing belts or other renewable parts when due as recommended by manufacturer, when these parts fail? If a manufacturer said use this engine oil in this car and you chose to use hydraulic inside the engine instead, whose fault it is when the engine fails? If a manufacturer said change this belt every certain km or years, and you prefer to change it only when it fails or breaks, whose fault it is? I recalled how you were complaining in Benz thread how a whole wiring harness of w202 would expire after certain mileage and would need to be replaced. Do you know what it actually means to someone looking for a car to buy when you tell him or her that he would have to replace the whole wires on the car at certain time because it would all expire someday? How many Peugeots have you driven that has ever had that issue?

You see, for some people, when they have a problem, they go about complaining about it, as if the complain is the solution to the problem. While some, would stand and find solution, even a permanent one, so that the issue doesn't surface again. These are two groups of people we have on this planet Earth.

The other day, a lady that drives Peugeot 206 was telling me that she would rather give that Lion to a family member if she wants to upgrade, simply because, in her own words "The car has served me so well that she has become part of me and I wouldn't want her to leave the family". The lady stays in Abuja. This conversation took place late last year. That's because she said no to "Abuse".

What people like you don't understand is, it cost little to run a Peugeot car when you keep to factory and say no to abuse. When you abuse your Lion, which happens when people want to cut corners in their lions, you will end up introducing more issues on the entire systems of the lion, which will force you to frequent mechanic places. What do you think will happen when you bypass original radiator fan connection? Frequent fan failure and more fuel consumption, right? Now, the more the fuel consumption, you would always take it to a workshop to find out the cause of the high fuel consumption, which will lad to more abuse, by trying to cut more corners to stop the high consumption. The same is applicable to other forms of abuse.

Now you were talking about cost of a Peugeot engine. It's very unfortunate for you that you have conditioned your mind to constantly abuse whatever car you own. People like me have no business with cost of engine of my lions. Because I didn't get any of them to replace their engines, rather, I got them to run them with their engines throughout my ownerships of them. Engines were not produced to fail, what kills them these days are abuse. People have driven their Peugeot cars beyond 800,000 kilometers on their mileage counter, on their original engines. We are talking of years or even decades here to attain such mileage. As long as what controls and monitors the engine and what you put inside the engine are in kept in good condition or are good, you have no business with engine replacement whatsoever. If an EW12 cost 160k, so what? Don't you know a Tokunbo engine of 505(XN1A) cost about 150k also? Peugeot engines are built with quality, so don't expect them cheap. So, if yours fail on you, ask yourself some personal questions why you can't maintain engine that girls comfortable do with low cost.


Ikenna

oluwaseunla:


I agree with you that people who know about the Peugeot are not so much, but I think that depends on your environment. I live in a small town and we don't have any good German mechs either, but then a lot of people use those cars here and maintain it. It all depends on how far you can go to get what you want.

My wife drives a Nissan, and three times I took that car to the 'best' mechs in town, I end up regretting it, cos they end up complicating issues. That's the so called japanese car. Now what do we do? We read up on our cars and know them well. We do preventative maintainance to ensure those cars don't break down suddenly. I have the factory service or Haynes manual of every car in the house. The auto technician we use is over 80km from where we live. More expensive than an average tree shade mech, yes, but I've come to find them cheaper in the long run. And yes, he knows about Peugeots and the mercs. Will we now say because we don't have good mechs in my town, we'll be riding bicycles?

About engine and timing belt issues, the question still is, how well are you maintaining it? Why on earth should your timing belt cut if you change it as at when due, with quality parts and right technicians. In the over 15 years I've been driving in this country, I've never lost an engine, and one of the cars is over 10 years old, and it's NOT a Toyota.

My summary is, it's not about the car, but the owner. A Toyota abused will eventually become problematic.

If you say a japanese tolerates more abuse than a Peugeot, I may agree, but saying Peugeot cars are problematic is what I'm calling you out for. Are you now telling me you've not seen one of those almost twenty years old Peugeots , still going strong?

fishleg123:
ikenna, is a special person. we need to appreciate and encourage people like him. imagine if there is no ikenna, many people that are enjoying their lions today will not.

fishleg123:
for me, Peugeot is the best car on Nigeria road.

fishleg123:
ikenna, is a special person. we need to appreciate and encourage people like him. imagine if there is no ikenna, many people that are enjoying their lions today will not.
for me, Peugeot is the best car on Nigeria road. I use 406, which I bought 3years ago from a bank manager after he had used it for 10 years. can u believe that d car was completely flooded b4 I bought it. d bsi, radio, engine.everything electrical was under water. they just allow it to dry. I bought d car and use it for all kind of farm work for 3 years b4 I had problem with d bsi. I changed d bsi and d car is back on d road. now, who can tell me that Peugeot 406 is a bad car . many of my friends have Toyota Camry, they dear not use their car d way I use mine.
thanks.

SmartChoices:
Of course, not everyone will appreciate these information that I am giving out, because I am giving them out free. If

if you think you can get it elsewhere, do your googling.



Ikenna351 this is the perfect problem....like I have been saying the choice is yours people to either buy a vehicle almost everyone knows about or that which only a handful have knowledge of......hence reducing your bargaining power due to the monopoly of repairers! Good morning.... Its Smartchoices.

oluwaseunla:


While I'm not really a Peugeot fan (save for the 406), this generalisation is completely false.

Funny thing is, there is a guy in my street that has been using the 607 since I knew him (like 4 years ago), as the only car, and generally, he has what I will term 'normal car issues'. Even that one is periodical. Admittedly, he maintains well, and he reads up on his car. I know you probably have seen peugeots giving their owners lots of issues, but did those owners ever found out the reason why?

I think truth is, most of us are too lazy to find out what we need to, to keep our vehicles running. Each car is peculiar, but with right handling, most cars will run as long as you wish them to.

auhanson:


The honest truth is that if you mess with the engine of these peugeot cars, you will need a loan to replace. Also, the only set back for me is the cost of their suspension systems, that's suppose to be wear items.

fishleg123:
Peugeot 406 is my first car. I bought it 'Nigerian used'. but many people shouted when they saw it. they wondered what could have made me to but such a 'troublesome ' car. but today they all have a change of mind. pls, I think it's not too OK for any one to say evil of any car that he/she has not used.
according to ikenna, if 607 uses the same wiring system as 406, then 607 is as good as 406.