@pamperme, thanks alot,i wish to try it for my madam but i hope it's affordable?Lol

bkodi: Hi everyone. I need help.My baby is 13months old and I've noticed that she stools a lot after taking peak 123 milk.Can I give her "adult" milk instead. pls advice!!!!!

Sorry,I have been very busy and also prep for my part 2.

What type of stool?very watery?how many times daily?when did you start noticing this?has your baby started eating family food?what cereals do you use?cos some cereals already contains milk and excess milk can irritate the GI

A lot of mothers use Peak 123 without problem,if your child stools after taking it,look out for how you prepare it,what you add,other meals,utensils....do a little elimination method.

However,if you insist or narrow it down to peak123 then Nido isn't an alternative.There is Nido made for babies within that age bracket,not the pics I see someone attach here (That's adult milk).

My Advice is that you don't use adult milk,your baby may take it well but we are concerned about constituents (one of which is the casein/whey ratio which may increase renal solute load) i.e over burden the kidneys.From 3 years,there are evidence that children tolerate adult milk.

If you can share how you prepare,what you feed your baby with and feeding times,I may be able to advice on necessary adjustment.

helixmanager:

Sorry,I have been very busy and also prep for my part 2.

What type of stool?very watery?how many times daily?when did you start noticing this?has your baby started eating family food?what cereals do you use?cos some cereals already contains milk and excess milk can irritate the GI

A lot of mothers use Peak 123 without problem,if your child stools after taking it,look out for how you prepare it,what you add,other meals,utensils....do a little elimination method.

However,if you insist or narrow it down to peak123 then Nido isn't an alternative.There is Nido made for babies within that age bracket,not the pics I see someone attach here (That's adult milk).

My Advice is that you don't use adult milk,your baby may take it well but we are concerned about constituents (one of which is the casein/whey ratio which may increase renal solute load) i.e over burden the kidneys.From 3 years,there are evidence that children tolerate adult milk.

If you can share how you prepare,what you feed your baby with and feeding times,I may be able to advice on necessary adjustment.

Stop quoting what you don't know just to discredit me. Go and buy a pack of that Nido and read the age bracket that they say.

Abeg don't force your child to take only one milk. If you notice that she stools mainly when you give her 123 grow then I beg you feel free to change the milk. If you want don't give Nido (nor be by force) but look for another milk that is suitable if you choose to.

Below is the age range for the nido.

That first pic is the front of the pack the side has kids playing and that is the refil pack.
My baby did not tollerate the 123 peak too. She also hated the vannila or what smell is it. So I switched to the nido. Its made by Nestle.

My son use nido from 12 months. There are othe brands out there too. It is a matter of choice and what baby likes. The fact that many children take 123 does not mean all other babies must be okay with it.

Igonih: My son use nido from 12 months. There are othe brands out there too. It is a matter of choice and what baby likes. The fact that many children take 123 does not mean all other babies must be okay with it.

There is a difference between not liking it and stooling.

I am not forcing anyone to take a particular brand but just trying to let mother have an open mind.

Your son used Nido from 12 months doesnt mean you took the right decision.

I have almost 8years experience in Pediatrics and I know what am saying.

hannydarl:

Stop quoting what you don't know just to discredit me. Go and buy a pack of that Nido and read the age bracket that they say.

Why should I discredit you?what will it profit me?I don't even have that time,my aim is to ensure mothers get the best info as far as I know based on my experience as a senior registrar in Pediatrics with keen interest in infant Nutrition.

Industries are being forced now to label as appropriate.There is Nido specifically made for children forget that stuff that a one year old can take adult milk and keep your pictures to yourself.

I have said it many times that for the fact that your baby eat a particular food doesn't mean all is well,especially qualitative growth.

There are times that I have to caution Nurses to stop harassing mothers in the hospital because its annoying to them when mothers come with more problems instead of following hospital guidelines. And when you ask the mothers,they tell you I read it somewhere,somebody said I should.......

I decided not to over flog the issue of bottle feeding when I realized its a waste of time.

When I have time,I will advice as appropriate on this forum. Its only people on field,I mean in the HCF will understand where I am coming from.

helixmanager:

Why should I discredit you?what will it profit me?I don't even have that time,my aim is to ensure mothers get the best info as far as I know based on my experience as a senior registrar in Pediatrics with keen interest in infant Nutrition.

Industries are being forced now to label as appropriate.There is Nido specifically made for children forget that stuff that a one year old can take adult milk and keep your pictures to yourself.

I have said it many times that for the fact that your baby eat a particular food doesn't mean all is well,especially qualitative growth.

There are times that I have to caution Nurses to stop harassing mothers in the hospital because its annoying to them when mothers come with more problems instead of following hospital guidelines. And when you ask the mothers,they tell you I read it somewhere,somebody said I should.......

I decided not to over flog the issue of bottle feeding when I realized its a waste of time.

When I have time,I will advice as appropriate on this forum. Its only people on field,I mean in the HCF will understand where I am coming from.

Abeg go and sit down at that corner. Are you chasing the poster of the year title here? See you are not the only one that knows it all and you are not the only educated person here. I have posted proof. You are just an ITK person. I never said what my baby eats is best. I never said all babies eat one thing. You have been hammering those points. That your kids and all generations from you will trive on peak 123 grow does not mean other babies can't react to it. Go and sit and think how easy life is when you investigate before posting. I will leave this tread for you. So you can be the mesaiah you want to be. Oya take over mr I am the only health officer in the world.
If you say that milk is adult milk, then it shows clearly that you know nothing. when last did you go to the market? Go buy the milk and see if all those additives you mentioned are different from the ones in infant milk.
MR ITK. All the time I see "wise ones" like you talk about feeding infants, you never for once cautioned about allergy and reactions. abeg don't get me started there o jare.
I am a nutritionist and I know that for the fact that my baby eats well balanced meals then ALL IS WELL with qualitative growth.Every child needs to eat a balanced diet yes! my child, your child and other's kids as long as they are not suffering from anything that elliminates certain diets from their food chart. Its high time you realize that health is not only in one field.

If you are so passionate about helping others then don't war with me. If you notice, mr itk, that a mother has the wrong idea then by all means don't just attack and go hide, no need for that. just call the persons attention and state reasons why you think or know what they are doing is wrong. There have beeen millions of cases where even doctors have been wrong. so my dear that school fees were paid and you attended lectures doesn't mean you know more thatn others ok?

Now I see no need to even talk to you again take the opportunity and do the only thing you know how to do most. Enjoy the kingship of this tread and be the go to guy you dream of becoming here.

NB she said her baby is 13mos old not weeks. And if the government made those food factories place the age range then what Nestle cautioned on their pack is still in line with what I recomended. If you were not blind you would have read where I said her baby MAY like it and I never said her baby must eat it cos mine does.
Oya go look for another point I posted to discredit since its your only job on earth. You were born to stalk me.

@heluixmanager:

You pretend to be a health industry professional. You better make sure you know what you are talking about, because right now you have no clue. Absolutely no clue. I don't know what university you attended (if any!!!), and I don't care if it was an African, American or European University, but I would love you to tell me at what price did you buy your diploma, I would like to buy one for my 5 years old son too.

To others, as a health professional with over 28 years in Paediatrics, I can only advice you to listen, but to also think for yourself and ALWAYS seek a second opinion from a qualified nutritionist or a paediatrician. You should be able to get a list of such professionals from your doctor. If your doctor refuses, then it is the time to change your doctor.

For those having resources and need to learn more, I recommend this web site:

http://www.askdrsears.com/

hannydarl:

Abeg go and sit down at that corner. Are you chasing the poster of the year title here? See you are not the only one that knows it all and you are not the only educated person here. I have posted proof. You are just an ITK person. I never said what my baby eats is best. I never said all babies eat one thing. You have been hammering those points. That your kids and all generations from you will trive on peak 123 grow does not mean other babies can't react to it. Go and sit and think how easy life is when you investigate before posting. I will leave this tread for you. So you can be the mesaiah you want to be. Oya take over mr I am the only health officer in the world.
If you say that milk is adult milk, then it shows clearly that you know nothing. when last did you go to the market? Go buy the milk and see if all those additives you mentioned are different from the ones in infant milk.
MR ITK. All the time I see "wise ones" like you talk about feeding infants, you never for once cautioned about allergy and reactions. abeg don't get me started there o jare.
I am a nutritionist and I know that for the fact that my baby eats well balanced meals then ALL IS WELL with qualitative growth.Every child needs to eat a balanced diet yes! my child, your child and other's kids as long as they are not suffering from anything that elliminates certain diets from their food chart. Its high time you realize that health is not only in one field.

If you are so passionate about helping others then don't war with me. If you notice, mr itk, that a mother has the wrong idea then by all means don't just attack and go hide, no need for that. just call the persons attention and state reasons why you think or know what they are doing is wrong. There have beeen millions of cases where even doctors have been wrong. so my dear that school fees were paid and you attended lectures doesn't mean you know more thatn others ok?

Now I see no need to even talk to you again take the opportunity and do the only thing you know how to do most. Enjoy the kingship of this tread and be the go to guy you dream of becoming here.

NB she said her baby is 13mos old not weeks. And if the government made those food factories place the age range then what Nestle cautioned on their pack is still in line with what I recomended. If you were not blind you would have read where I said her baby MAY like it and I never said her baby must eat it cos mine does.
Oya go look for another point I posted to discredit since its your only job on earth. You were born to stalk me.

My dear,I see your point.

Once again,I am not trying to discredit you. Since you are a nutritionist I expect you to be open rather than taking things personal atleast we have dieticians in our team during ward rounds.

I should have acknowledge some of your points or stated I learned some things from you but that wasn't my point.I picked some points that demand attention.

I am not disappearing as you think,just not privileged as you are to be on Nairaland for hours.

On this issue of Nido,If you had stated Nido 1+ (thats the name diff from the Normal Nido for Adult)that would have been fine.Take time to digest my comments before reacting aggressively.

However,a baby stools after taking Peak 123 doesnt mean the problem is from the product.Thats my point!So why the advice to change?Peak 123 and Nido 1+ are both milk and about same composition. Remember the mother that asked the question didnt say her baby doesnt like Peak 123.

At my level calling me ITK shows how unprofessional you are and leaving this forum because you seem to be challenged shows you are childish.If you have anything of benefit to share,pls do!Thats the essence of this forum.

Dr Muzungu: @heluixmanager:

You pretend to be a health industry professional. You better make sure you know what you are talking about, because right now you have no clue. Absolutely no clue. I don't know what university you attended (if any!!!), and I don't care if it was an African, American or European University, but I would love you to tell me at what price did you buy your diploma, I would like to buy one for my 5 years old son too.

To others, as a health professional with over 28 years in Paediatrics, I can only advice you to listen, but to also think for yourself and ALWAYS seek a second opinion from a qualified nutritionist or a paediatrician. You should be able to get a list of such professionals from your doctor. If your doctor refuses, then it is the time to change your doctor.

For those having resources and need to learn more, I recommend this web site:

http://www.askdrsears.com/

Who opened the padlock?He is on the loose!

Dr Muzungu: @heluixmanager:

You pretend to be a health industry professional. You better make sure you know what you are talking about, because right now you have no clue. Absolutely no clue. I don't know what university you attended (if any!!!), and I don't care if it was an African, American or European University, but I would love you to tell me at what price did you buy your diploma, I would like to buy one for my 5 years old son too.

To others, as a health professional with over 28 years in Paediatrics, I can only advice you to listen, but to also think for yourself and ALWAYS seek a second opinion from a qualified nutritionist or a paediatrician. You should be able to get a list of such professionals from your doctor. If your doctor refuses, then it is the time to change your doctor.

For those having resources and need to learn more, I recommend this web site:

http://www.askdrsears.com/

Thanks for the site you suggested,however,your 28yrs experience is required here.

Make your submission and also let the house know in clear terms why you think I am an impostor,just to convince all you are not typing from Yaba Left.

In one of my posts I stated that this forum doesnt replace the hospital but a place where where mothers can get first hand information.So take your advice home as large percentage of mothers here are educated.

MR ITK. All the time I see "wise ones" like you talk about feeding infants, you never for once cautioned about allergy and reactions. abeg don't get me started there o jare.

I try as much as possible to be straight and simple,why should I talk about allergies and reactions when I dont see the need to?

Once again,stop thinking there is a competition here. We should have a common goal,to provide quality information and learn.

Trust your baby is doing great! Cheers!!!

Hannydarl noooooo!!! Pls you can't leave us on this thread, your prescence is way too valuable for you to leave us like that. Helixmanager, you've also been very helpful on this thread but I've also noticed how quick you put down Hanny's advice/opinions. Its not fair the way you make it look like she's misleading others. This thread is large enough to accomodate more than one key poster plus, We are all here to learn from one another.
Pls let's focus on the purpose the thread was created for the sake of our LOs. Cheers

dominique: Hannydarl noooooo!!! Pls you can't leave us on this thread, your prescence is way too valuable for you to leave us like that. Helixmanager, you've also been very helpful on this thread but I've also noticed how quick you put down Hanny's advice/opinions. Its not fair the way you make it look like she's misleading others. This thread is large enough to accomodate more than one key poster plus, We are all here to learn from one another.
Pls let's focus on the purpose the thread was created for the sake of our LOs. Cheers

Thanks dear!

I didnt see it that way,I am sorry about that. Just trying to pick some points and her reaction makes me feel uncomfortable.

helixmanager:

I try as much as possible to be straight and simple,why should I talk about allergies and reactions when I dont see the need to?

Once again,stop thinking there is a competition here. We should have a common goal,to provide quality information and learn.

Trust your baby is doing great! Cheers!!!

My baby is doing great.
And, you talk about allergy always when advicing mother's who are trying to give infants adult food(any food other than boobies milk) for the first time. Its shocking to me when nurses at immunization centers tell moms to grind soya beans, groundnuts and crayfish into the corn they give as akanmu to 6 mos olds. They never explained that babies may react to such foods and caution them how to introduce a tiny drop or a teaspoon of that food the first time and feed the baby the bulk of the food without so if the baby reacts to that stuff he will not have dangerously high content to battle with as it could lead to death. Granted only a few babies are allergic to foods but it will be a devastating disaster if even one lil one is lost due allergic reaction that the mom did not notice on time.

That milk is not nido 1+ its plain nestle Nido fortified. The adult milk I believe is different and that was why I posted the photo so mothers can see and be sure of which they are buying. When I have time I will go shopping and post the photo of the other and while at it, look for that Nido 1+ cos it seems to be scarce. or, ask those personels that bring products to you for introduction about the one I posted I need to Know too.
I have two kids. One did not poop well on lactogen but did great on SMA the one with red lid. If a baby is reacting to a particular milk most medical personel will advice its mom to change that particular milk. then, if it happens again they will know what else to do I.e look if baby is lactose intolerant or reacting to any of its compositions or if moms hygine needs restructuring and then prescribe appropriate feed or solution for that condition.
If you notice my posts, I don't talk about medicines or medications cos every mom owes her child a duty to seek professional medical help(even though a moms intuition should always lead the way so she can change doctors if she senses that her doctor is not listenning to her concerning what she is experiencing with her child) if baby is sick.

Anyway, abeg if you notice mrs A post a wrong info just say no don't do that it can cause so so and so problems and every one will read and learn from that and if need be the poster can defend why he said so.

Hope your little one is doing good too. Sorry for calling you ITK I been dey vex.

I believe the purpose of this thread by ayobarmy initially was for mothers/fathers to come, share their experience(s) raising new borns. This shouldnt be a thread where we all come and flash our degrees and number of years of practising medicine...

We all should comment or offer our opinion on issues or questions raised by mothers, we shouldnt come here and put other people down because we want to make a point or force people to do what we think it is right.

Please i really dont like quoting what A or B said but i will (and am sure other parents agree too) appeal to both Hannydarl and Helixmanager to sheath their swords and move past this. I dont like threads where people fights or abuse each other just to drive home their own opinion. let us have a lovely thread for the sake of the babies, biko!

Please can anyone assist,or Advice on what I can do cos am really getting scared,My baby's pooh is greenish & watery, it'S two dAyS noW.he Actually pooh immediately he finish sucking. he's 2months & 2weeks,he's on breast milk only.

shilees: Please can anyone assist,or Advice on what I can do cos am really getting scared,My baby's pooh is greenish & watery, it'S two dAyS noW.he Actually pooh immediately he finish sucking. he's 2months & 2weeks,he's on breast milk only.

Are you still at home? Take your baby to see a doctor. A pedeatrician if you can help it.
Though its okay and expected for an infant to poop as soon as food enters their mouths( most times small poop with large explosive farts making you believe that the daiper must be full). Its a reflex from their brains to make space for new meals. With time their bodies will get back to "normal" the doctor will want to know the structure and content of the poop. So, take baby to the doctor.

@shiles maybe u r feeding ur baby with the foremilk only. try feeding ur baby with one breast at a time i.e. let him/her drain one breast during one feeding. the next feeding give the baby the second breast. the milk that comes out first is light, that is the foremilk and the thicker milk comes later; the hindmilk that is where the fat is. i used to have this problem untill i googled it out. though i was told green stool is normal, i was very woried then i searched online. now i let my baby finish a breast during a feeding (we were also told this at the Health center). the next feeding u offer the other breast.since i started this method, her stool has been a normal colour. pls try it.

@HELIXMANAGER can i take paracetamol while bfing. i have body pains all over and sometimes i wake up with an headache. i am presently on pregnancare breastfeeding. also can i take vit c. i notice my baby stools so much when i give her baby vit.c (0.2 on the dropper)

hannydarl:

Are you still at home? Take your baby to see a doctor. A pedeatrician if you can help it.
Though its okay and expected for an infant to poop as soon as food enters their mouths( most times small poop with large explosive farts making you believe that the daiper must be full). Its a reflex from their brains to make space for new meals. With time their bodies will get back to "normal" the doctor will want to know the structure and content of the poop. So, take baby to the doctor.

You are my chief.

@shiles maybe u r feeding ur baby with the foremilk only. try feeding ur baby with one bosom at a time i.e. let him/her drain one bosom during one feeding. the next feeding give the baby the second bosom. the milk that comes out first is light, that is the foremilk and the thicker milk comes later; the hindmilk that is where the fat is. i used to have this problem untill i googled it out. though i was told green stool is normal, i was very woried then i searched online. now i let my baby finish a bosom during a feeding (we were also told this at the Health center). the next feeding u offer the other bosom.since i started this method, her stool has been a normal colour. pls try it.

On point.

The consistency changes with time.

shilees: Please can anyone assist,or Advice on what I can do cos am really getting scared,My baby's pooh is greenish & watery, it'S two dAyS noW.he Actually pooh immediately he finish sucking. he's 2months & 2weeks,he's on bosom milk only.

Permit me to add that the quality of your breastt milk is a function of what you eat. Let your diet be balanced,drink plenty of water and moderate fruits and vegetable.Apple is nice.

Do you give water after breasttfeeding session?

Do you express milk for your baby?

Do you see mucus like in the stool?If your answer is Yes,I suspect contamination / Diarrhea which is rare when you do exclusive BF.

Continue breasttfeeding if your answer is No,it will normalise with time.The greenish colouration is as a result of Bile secretion and a reaction to your diet.I guess your problem is equal to zero.

I appreciate mothers who take note of everything about their babies.However,if you still feel uncomfortable see your pediatrician.

omogemi: @HELIXMANAGER can i take paracetamol while bfing. i have body pains all over and sometimes i wake up with an headache. i am presently on pregnancare breastfeeding. also can i take vit c. i notice my baby stools so much when i give her baby vit.c (0.2 on the dropper)

Yes you can ma.

How old is your baby and why do you give her vitamin C?

@hannydarl,thanks for the display of maturity.

You are right about the nurses vs allergy as stated.That's actually the job of a dietician or Nutritionist in a more organised setting.

Dis is wat I cal, FANTASTIC. So loving dis forum. I'm new here. I av a 6mthns old princess wanna stop EBF, can I get clue of hw to make homade foods for her.God bless all our kids

omodesire: Dis is wat I cal, FANTASTIC. So loving dis forum. I'm new here. I av a 6mthns old princess wanna stop EBF, can I get clue of hw to make homade foods for her.God bless all our kids

You welcome! @hannydarl,will give you more than enough recipes.

I think you should be applauded for EBF for 6months,however,I advice when you start complimentary feeding let your baby still enjoy the benefit of breasttmilk for as long as you can.

am happy the cat and dog fight is over.

@ 6mos your baby still NEEDS milk(br£ast milk is BEST) so what ever food you introduce to baby make sure he takes Milk as the main food.

So, at that age you can introduce mashed bannana, plain yogourt or flavoured and sweetened with mashed bannana, apple or mango,apples baked or boiled(avoid sour ones and always remove the skin and core)ripe plantain, marshed sweet or Irish potato, egg yolk, rice ( better whole grain rice not par boiled) oats not quick cooking one if you can help it, wheat, all blend into powder and seived to remove shaff. For me, I blended rice, some oats and wheat( same ratio) then seived and kept in a dry container in the fridge or in a cool dry corner in the kitchen. so, when I want I put water in a pot, mix in a table spoon of the blended mix(it swells a lot) and slow cook over the fire. When its cooked add some milk and feed baby. You could sweeten with a pinch of glucose powder if baby hates bland tastes.
Abeg, skip indomie if you can and golden morn. If you chose to give just give for fun when you are eating don't make specialy for baby. And if you are eating anything that is well cooked with natural ingredients like amala and ewedu, yam, rice, fish, that baby shows interest in, feel free to give him. Do not chew and put in baby's mouth. Lots of cases where sick mothers just before symptoms appear chew and feed babies only to transmit the desease to the infant. If you want baby to eat meat or fish you can, mash it with fingers, forks or spoons and fEed. Though many parents do this without problems just for the sake of peace of mind don't.
Give those foods twice daily while you give baby milk to complete the other feeds.
When introducing foods please give one at a time I:e if you decide to start with rice today, just mash like a tea spoon of rice and feed then watch for baby's reaction. Did he poop too much? Or was he constipated, was he gassy or cried like he was in distress, did skin rashes ocour? Any swellings? If you notice any of these just don't give that food that you introduced again for like 3mos . If the allergy is seriouse take baby to the doctor ASAP. Always introduce one at a time not two or more new foods at once. If baby does fine with one, give a teaspoon of another while he eats only that which he has taken before.
@shilees, does your baby have older siblings around that may go out to play and handle him or his toys? Do visitors all handle him? Is there mucus in his poop or does it have egwusi texture(normal).
Many new parents are not brave enough to ask guests to wash hands before handling their kids. I boldly did and many of my friends and family mock me till now but honey, while they spend most of the year treating simple preventable diseases my kids hardly fell sick.
I follow simple but strict hygine. And I don't downplay the role of the doctor.

NB some babies will reject food with rough texture just get a small blender specially for baby if you can afford it and blend the potato, banana, plantain or any other food that needs to be pureed before feeding baby.
And don't forget to treat baby,s things as special so wash and air dry the blender as soon as you use it. Keep baby's stuff away fom roaches and other insects and older siblings who may want to touch and play with them.

Enjoy your new baby dear. How are you coping with the sleepless nights? Pkele its only for a short while.

Play with your baby and always make sure she is looking straight at you when feeding her. Always smile and sing to her. Babies love to hear moms voice.

Happy new year in advance!

Helixmanager can I give my princess cod liver oi? She is 17mos old. Want her hair to grow. Lol, vanity of women!

@helixmanager., she is 2 months + and i notice she sneezes one in a while and lil cough when she cries hard. although i asked a doctor friend before i started giving her and he said its ok due to the weather. i give her 0.2 once a day (in the morning).I on the other hand am experiencing loss of appetite. what can i do? i just finished a pack of Pregnancare Breastfeeding and i havnt bought another one yet.

Thanks everyone, we went to a health center to see a pediatrician yesterday and he also said it's what am eating and prescribed flagyl & septrin for him buh he's pooh is still green although not as much as before,and is still the same eat & pooh process.His pooh doesn't have mucor and am practicing the fore/hind milk thing.let's see how it goes till 2mao. thanks everyone for your contribution.