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Religion / Re: How To Answer The Question "Where Did Jesus Say, 'I Am God, Worship Me''? by abatisegun: 12:56pm On Apr 01, 2018
alBHAGDADI:


It is common these days to see people posing a question to Christians on social media and even in debates with the question always in one same manner. The question usually comes from Atheists, Jews, Muslims and even heretic Christians. They wonder why we see Jesus as God and worship him.

So they ask "Show me Where Jesus said "I am God worship me?" in those exact words. I will only make comment on one question u asked that muslim should show u where in d Quaran verse that says Jesus was born by a virgin pls kindly look up for quaran chapte 3 vs 47 and quaran chapter 19 vs 20. I think dis will guide u small

You might become confused at this moment if you are not smart. Yes, you know you can't find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said such in those exact words, so you might be quick to quote some classical verses that show Jesus Christ is God.

Well, the person asking that question has been trained in such a way that no matter the amount of verses you quote, he won't believe you unless you show him where Jesus said "I am God worship me" in those exact words. Now he has boxed you in the "exact words" corner. The only way you can get out is to pull him into the corner to make him see how stupid it is dealing with exact words. I bet you, he will be the one to open the door for the both of you to leave the corner once he realises how stupid it is. How do you do that? You flip the question back at him. You say...

"I'll be willing to show where Jesus said 'I am God worship me' in those exact words only if you can show me where he said 'I am only a prophet, do not worship me' in those exact same words. At that moment, he will start to realise the error of requesting for exact same words. To stamp it on him, if he's a Muslim that believes according to the Quran that Jesus was born of a virgin, then ask him to show you in the Quran or Bible where Jesus said "I am born of a virgin" in those exact same words. If he can't, then it means his belief that Jesus was born of a virgin is false.

The idea behind the above is to ensure you are not dealing with exact words. If the Jew, atheist, Muslim or heretic Christian can't show you anywhere in the Bible or Quran or any book where Jesus said these exact words "I am only a prophet, do not worship me" or "I am born of a virgin", then it means he shouldn't require of you to show him where Jesus said the exact same words "I am God worship me".

Once you have passed that, you can now ask a more reasonable question.

WHERE AND HOW DID JESUS CLAIM TO BE GOD?

According to the Jews, Christians and Muslims, there are certain claims only God can make. All 3 religious beliefs hold the same view about God in that regard. That is why I am going to use the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Quran to see if Jesus made claims that only God can make.

1. Who is the "First and the Last"?

Let's start by quoting the Quran

Sura 57:3
He is the FIRST and the LAST, and the Outward (His signs appear on all His creatures) and the Inward (Hidden). And He is the All-Knower of everything.


Now let's read from the Old Testament

Isaiah 44:6
New International Version
"This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the FIRST and I am the LAST; apart from me there is no God.


Since both the Quran and the Bible agree that God is the First and the Last, should a prophet refer to himself as such? But that is what Jesus Christ did in the verse below.

Revelations 1:17-18
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the FIRST and the LAST. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.


Can you tell us what Jesus meant when he took a title that can only be applied to God and applied it to himself? If he wasn't claiming to be God, then what was he doing?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Major Causes Of Zina (fornication) by abatisegun: 9:42am On Mar 09, 2018
جزاكم الله خيرا

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Education / Re: Snake: JAMB Registrar, Oloyede Blasts Nigerians For Joking Over Missing N36m by abatisegun: 11:49am On Feb 21, 2018
Gentle034:
See this one oooh. The joke is on you now, Abi u Don 4get how u joke for U.I? shocked
which ui? because d man is former vc at uni ilorin not ui
Romance / Re: Nigerian Man Marries Two Women On The Same Day (Photo) by abatisegun: 7:03pm On Feb 06, 2018
doctore212:
Why is one wearing socks and the other is not. Congrats to the young man
can u see very well both are putting on socks
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sunanul Fitrah (innate Practices) by abatisegun: 11:43am On Jan 05, 2018
جزاكم الله خيرا I want to ask 1 question and it goes like this i wnt quick respond. It is mentioned in d above hadiths that we should trim our mustach pluck our ampit hair but if someone now shave both without leaving behind any hair has such person gone against the prophet and become a sinful somebody? because it is clearly stated trim and pluck not shaving.
Politics / Re: Hijab Saga: MURIC Submits Memorandum To House Of Reps by abatisegun: 4:42pm On Jan 03, 2018
Yian1:
What i know is, if a thing won't cause discomfort to other citizens, it should be allowed.
you have spoken well
Crime / Re: Police Arrests Man Who Helped Rescue 7 Kidnapped Victims Inside Creek by abatisegun: 6:39pm On Sep 28, 2017
Na to be keeping mute sure pass now if a crime scene is discovered by u to avoid unecessary detention. God save us.

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Health / Re: My Wife Has Pregnancy Symptoms But Not Pregnant, What Could Be Wrong With Her? by abatisegun: 10:10pm On Jul 12, 2017
Tell her to go for scan it may be due to fibrod
Romance / Re: 4lah Folayan: "Women, About Us And Our Nudes." by abatisegun: 2:58pm On Jul 12, 2017
ConcNiggress56:
my younger brother needs a job..

my virginity is up for it.

pm me if interested!!


I am serious about this and serious offers only
Mother to be one day, role model of someone
Islam for Muslims / Re: 15 Ways To Increase Earnings With Proofs From Quran And Sunnah by abatisegun: 6:56pm On Jul 08, 2017
jazakum ALLAHU khearn I will try many of the points highlighted insha ALLAH. because i wish my earning increased.

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Politics / Re: How Dogara Greeted Obasanjo Vs How He Greeted Amosun:See Difference by abatisegun: 6:53pm On Jul 08, 2017
OBASANJO older pass Amosun now how do u now expect him to greet both of them?
Science/Technology / Re: Nigeria Vs NewZealand: How They Responded When Whale Were Washed Ashore(Photos) by abatisegun: 6:48pm On Jul 08, 2017
u no know say hunger bad now.
Education / Re: 16 Striking Facts You May Never Have Come Across (shocking) by abatisegun: 3:16pm On Jul 08, 2017
i rep my town Abeokuta. The town with serenity
Education / Re: Zero Divided By Zero Proven To Be Two Mathematically by abatisegun: 3:09pm On Jul 08, 2017
This is indeed advanced mathematics. Has it been accepted wordwide?
Education / Re: You Belong To Indomie Generation If You Didn't Read This As A Yoruba Student by abatisegun: 3:24pm On Jul 07, 2017
Alawiye ede Yoruba I miss those days. Ade ta ofa o Ba ife Oba a o Ba Ade be Oba a o Ba be

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Business / Re: Candido Joao Da Rocha: Nigeria's First Millionaire by abatisegun: 6:54pm On Jun 30, 2017
ME daddy, i need some amount of money for some stuff.
Daddy what exactly do u want to use it fir?
me daddy just to use 4 flexing thing u know now daddy!!
Daddy enh enh do u think I am da Rocha?

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Crime / Re: Kidnapper Evans Sues Police For N300 Million by abatisegun: 3:33pm On Jun 29, 2017
His lawyer want chop his own b4 government cease all his wealth.
Literature / Re: 20 Interesting Facts About The Human Tongue by abatisegun: 7:00pm On Jun 23, 2017
educative!!! Our noble prophet MUAHMOD SAW warns us to be very mindful of what we say with our tongue.
Sports / Re: UCL Final: See All The Interesting Facts by abatisegun: 11:04pm On Jun 03, 2017
Whobedatte:
Penaldo is extremely lucky
Messi is head and shoulders above him this season H2H
What is this one saying?

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Sports / Re: The Moment Real Madrid Captain Lifted The UCL Trophy by abatisegun: 11:00pm On Jun 03, 2017
CONGRATULATIONS HALA MADRID

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Islam for Muslims / The Crescent Of The New Moon Has Been Sighted In Abeokuta by abatisegun: 7:48pm On May 26, 2017
The news reaching me from a very reliable source has onfirmed the sighting of the new month of Ramadan. Base on this fasting starts as from tomorrow. PLS mode help push to the front page 4 people to see.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Three Ashra’s Of Ramadan And Their Duas by abatisegun: 10:36am On May 26, 2017
obafemee80:
Ramadan is the 9th month of Islamic Calendar,observed by Muslims Worldwide as an act of fasting to commemorate the revelation of Quran on Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) as per Islamic dogmas. The ritual of fasting among Muslims redirects heart away from worldly activities to purify the soul by freeing it from negative and harmful activities. Ramadan is the best practice for self-improvement,self-control,discipline, and empathy to encourage charity(Zakat) towards the less fortunate ones.

Ramadan And Its Phases
Ramadan lasts 29 or 30 days depending on moon sighting and according to narration, Allah divides this noble month into three parts.
 First Part reflects mercy of Allah, second part reflects forgiveness of Allah and the third part reflects safety from the hell (Jahanam). Allah is the only true merciful and Ramadan is His month of mercy and forgiveness providing Muslims an opportunity to seek refuge from Hell for their sins and forbidden acts. The only way to attain the true essence of Ramadan is to do Zikar as much as you can.

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Allah says in the Qur’an “Remember Allah abundantly, in order that you become successful” [8:45]


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Ramadan And Concept Of Ashra
The word Ashra is an Arabic word meaning ten. Ramadan has three parts and each part is of ten days, making it a month of three Ashras.

First Ashra: (First ten days of Ramadan) – Days of Mercy
Second Ashra (Second ten days) – Days of Forgiveness
Third Ashra (Last ten days) – Days to seek refuge from Hellfire

1)First Ashra – Days of Mercy
The first ten days of Ramadan is to seek mercy from Allah, as His mercy is boundless and it is unto us to ask for His mercy to be shower upon us. Dua for First Ashra is:

Translation: O! My Lord forgive and have Mercy and You are the Best of Merciful

Be Merciful To Fellow Beings
The objective of first Ashra is practicing being merciful to your fellow beings by

Giving charity, the act Allah loves the most.Treat fellow Muslims well by controlling your temper. Help people whenever wherever and never say no to them because Allah helps those who help others.

2)Second Ashra – Days Of Forgiveness
Forgiveness is to do Astaghfaar for all sins committed so far by Muslims especially in the second Ashra of Ramadan and to repent unto Allah. Do Astaghfaar, feel sorry, desist from committing it again, and make sure not to fall for the same sin again.Dua for the second Ashra is:

Translation: “I seek forgiveness from Allah, my Lord, from every sin I committed”

-    Days Of Maghfirah
These are the days of Maghfirah and in the mid of Ramadan Allah’s forgiveness is at peak. He forgives only those who prostrate in front of Him with ashamed spirit and pledge in heart not to do the same again ever. Do Tauba as Allah loves those who repent on their sins, verily He is the only forgiver.

-    Be Kind – Forgive All
While you are asking for Allah’s forgiveness in this Ashra make sure that you do the same to our fellow Muslims by adopting alike trait of your Lord and let forgive them for all their deliberate mistakes.

3)Third Ashra – Days Of Seeking Refuge
The last Ashra comprises the vital days of Ramadan as it unveils those days that are termed as “mother of all days- Lailat-tul-Qadar” whose reward is the highest among rest of the days. Though the entire month is a blessing, yet Allah has provided Muslims with a night the last Ashra, night of decree greater in virtue and is better than the nights of thousand months. Stated in Quran

“We sent it (Quran) down on a blessed Night. Verily,We are ever warning. Therein ( in that Night) is decreed every matter of ordainment. Amran (i.e. a command or this Quran or His Decree of every matter) from Us. Verily, We are ever sending (the Messenger) (As) a Mercy from your Lord.” [Ad-Dukhaan 44: 3-6]

Muslim besides zikar and recitation of Quran do Itikaf and observe special Nawafils, Salatuh Tasbeeh in third Ashra for beseeching sanctuary from hell. Dua for the last Ashra is

Translation: “O Allah! Save me from the Hell – Fire.”

http://www.quranreading.com/blog/three-ashra’s-of-ramadan-and-their-duas/

جزاكم الله خيرا

Family / Re: Businessman Marries Off 50 Girls In Yobe (Photo) by abatisegun: 9:40am On May 22, 2017
Tolbanks:
Ahn ahn... KILODE

50 wives at the same time!!!

How he wan take dey do them? O ga ooo. Wonders they say shall never end

FTC again the second time grin cheesy grin cheesy
Pls go back to d write up and read it carefully .it is nt d bizman that married them but he married them off. Or u dont understand English again
Education / Re: Facts About JAMB 2017 Results Upgrade & Why You Should Run From Fraudsters by abatisegun: 7:24am On May 20, 2017
May be they will listen. Boya won a je gbo
Health / Re: 10 Habits That Makes You Age Faster by abatisegun: 7:21am On May 20, 2017
fapcrook:
and too little
. I trust u. Mojeri eeee
Health / Re: 10 Habits That Makes You Age Faster by abatisegun: 6:53am On May 20, 2017
U did not mention too much of sex life op.

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Religion / Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by abatisegun: 3:15pm On May 19, 2017
ilynem:

Saw this post on Facebook. You couldn't even edit it before posting. I just couldn't stop laughing after reading it.I guess no one showed her Koran 4:34.
. Whatvis ther e in Quran 4 34 unless u r taking it meaning out of context
Religion / Re: Photos Of Assemblies Of God Members Dancing After Supreme Court Victory by abatisegun: 5:41pm On May 18, 2017
NwaObinkita:
embarassed cry It saddens me when the body of Christ is in disarray.

It is a shame on Christianity if Church matter is settled in court by a pagan Muslim judge.
who is more pagan between christain and a beleiving Muslim see urself

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Education / Re: Ogun SS2 Student Finds Purse Filled With Cash On Her Way Home by abatisegun: 12:31pm On May 18, 2017
dangotesmummy:
#yawns#


You're still living in the era of simbi goes to school. Rewarded by who?
rewarded by GOD

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Education / Re: Ogun SS2 Student Finds Purse Filled With Cash On Her Way Home by abatisegun: 12:05pm On May 18, 2017
She might have received diferent types of bashing from her colegues calling her all sort of name ranging from ODE,MUMU AROWO MAGBE. ETC. Some would have even asked her what she has achieved in returning d money back. OH dear student, continue as uhave chosen to b doing and don't change ur attitude because of what people are saying sonner or later u will be rewarded.

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