Wow. My old buddy Rossikki pulls me out of retirement and an NL Hiatus of a few years. Buddy you are totally correct. I have experienced a lot in the past few years that shows black/African folks undermine themselves while the white world, devoted to moving forward through the Machiavellian manipulation of others, is always ready to take advantage of our disunity and primal dislike of each other over issues that should not be developmental deal-breakers (religion, ethnic origin, nation of origin etc).

Ezekwesili is an example of the many brilliant but ( eventually) jaded African technocrats who 'cut their teeth' and built a reputation in the West but, perhaps, patriotically, decided to help develop a home nation they love via contributing specialist skills they gained abroad in some of the best economies in the world. These people, unless highly pragmatic and adaptive, may eventually become unobjective, bitter and unproductive enemies of their home nation if things are not done how they dictate. Her and her ilk come with massive egos which means they can sometimes become an enemy of even the most laudable projects so far as they feel 'sidelined' or irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Ezekwesili may now be an egotistic technocrat who is bitter because she, after many years abroad, does not want to accept that many factors, including a lot that is out of our control, combine to ensure Africa works differently. When I visited Japan I realised it was a different and very successful culture cultivated by intelligent people who are determined to do things their own way. Nigeria is similar. I personally was glad to read about Nigeria Air and I am hoping we make a success of it. What is bad about a development that produces a Nigerian challenge , delivering better customer value and economic benefits to Nigeria, to the current dominance of BA, KLM, Virgin et al over the international airspace of the biggest black nation on earth?

babyfaceafrica:
hmmmm....even the complted apartments will be way above for rich people ,I guess...maybe 20 billions?...

No. Not feasible or economically sensible from a return-on-investment (ROI) point of view. A very rich politician can advertise his Banana Island property for 10 billion Naira and wait for it to sell for that price for years. Developers, because they often take loan to finance their projects, need to get their capital and ROI (return on investment) in much sooner to stay afloat. 20 billion Naira is over 4 million pounds sterling. You cannot sell an apartment, however prestigious, for that amount in Nigeria, a third word Country, because most residential buyers will be priced out at that price bracket. Meanwhile investors will be unwilling to commit when, for example, the same amount could get them a portfolio of 5-10 properties in London, New York, Paris et al.

I concede the average apartment will be beyond the reach of most Nigerians but this is similar worldwide whereby prestigious development , like the Palms in Dubai, tend to be targeted at wealthy buyers or investors who can source credit.

southniyikaye:
10 billion,na sweet in I hear o,am not sure and pls no bashing.uns understand now,I even heard adenuga bought 10 plots there

That is what I was saying with my last post quoted below. The connected in-crowd always get the first bite of the Cherry in Nigeria and even the world in general. Completed apartments and shells will still be available in decent numbers as these will be supplied by actual property developers whose core business is to actually build residential and commercial units as opposed to land speculators who mainly buy land and wait for its value to go up so they can then sell on for a profit.

Probably better to buy completed apartments you will be able to raise a mortgage for from Nigerian banks. A friend of mine who is a top boy at UBA informed me that they would personally favour mortgages/loans for Eko Atlantic City as it will be a way to get a stock of very valuable and internationally iconic real estate should buyers default leading to repossession. Most land available are in the hands of connected and wealthy speculators who will now demand a big premium to sell to potential buyers like you.

babyfaceafrica:
Nice..how much is a plot of land there?

Probably better to buy completed apartments you will be able to raise a mortgage for from Nigerian banks. A friend of mine who is a top boy at UBA informed me that they would personally favour mortgages/loans for Eko Atlantic City as it will be a way to get a stock of very valuable and internationally iconic real estate should buyers default leading to repossession. Most land available are in the hands of connected and wealthy speculators who will now demand a big premium to sell to potential buyers like you.

yomexp:
Gbawe, aresa ,TerraCotta,TonySpike , DuduNegro,Pukkah , Katsumoto,
naptu2 guys any latest pix of eko atlantic? please help me out.

Bruv, you pretty much have the latest pictures relating to stage of work reached. It is a project I am personally keenly interested in as I plan to own a unit or two there. Iconic address worth investing in, even if you do not wish to live there, as rental yield will probably be amongst the highest in the world easily rivalling New York, London, Tokyo et al in comparative percentage yield per annum.

I don't know why folks are comparing Fashola and Ambode. The real hero is Tinubu who had the foresight and talent to support the right leader for Lagos after he left office. Fashola was the right man for 2007 t0 2015 and it now appears Ambode is the right governor for this period. What is important is that Lagos continues to move forward unlike what obtains in other States where an exemplary and highly effective leader will be replaced by an indolent, clueless and retrogressive leader who will then take the State backwards.

I was one of those who stated boldly that Ambode has the capacity to do better than Fashola. This is not because Ambode is intrinsically better than Fashola as an administrator but more to do with the fact that Fashola did a lot of work to pave the way for an easier and more successful tenure for his successor. Also political evolution means Lagos politics is now more sophisticated with less of the bureaucracy and political bottlenecks that impeded Fashola. All in all, it is always about finding the right leader for a particular moment in time.

NgeneUkwenu:


Men! I lack energy to even create threads here again....the whole place has been messed up by the Useless Ipob vagabonds, who are currently taking advantage of the cheap data on offer to exhibit their ignorance on National issues..

Same here. I don't even have the energy or interest to come here regularly anymore as I know I will only see the usually unintelligent babble plus vitriolic and bitter rants that is now the staple diet of Nairaland's politics section. Now I read NL rarely and respond even more infrequently. For example, my last response before this was to a hateful clown who claims we should praise GEJ and NOI for the introduction of the TSA account on a thread where the Buhari government announced it had judiciously accumulated trillions of Naira in the account.

What the utterly irresponsible enemy of progress failed to acknowledge is that the TSA was introduced in 2012 with GEJ not putting it to use, for very obvious reason, before he left office in 2015. Yet Buhari put the TSA to full use within months in office !!! Now, how does one cope daily with Nigerians with such backward, degenerate and crooked mentality? Imagine saying we should praise a crook while trying to rob the real achiever of credit because of bias and ethnic/political hatred? Who wants to come here daily to argue with such dishonesty and perverse reasoning?

luvinhubby:
That is a very good one.

God bless GEJ & NOI for conceiving & instituting the TSA.
And Buhari is busy forming strongman for nothing.

APC is a fraud.

They say the worst lie we tell are the lies we tell ourselves. So I urge you to continue lying to yourself. You will definitely get nowhere in life lying to yourself and living in denial. Jonathan is a crook and NOI only knows how to look the other way while Nigeria is being plundered and gang-shagged. The TSA was introduced in 2012 yet GEJ never thought to put it in full use before he left office in 2015 because he knows doing so will bring and end to the copious looting him and his fellow crooks were getting any with. What praise should go to such an irresponsible and crooked president if not praise from unrepentant sycophant who are not ashamed of twisting the truth?

Yet Buhari put the TSA to use within months in office when GEJ failed to do so for years. Even a child can discern who the crook is (GEJ) and also note who the determined and upright leader is (Buhari). I therefore implore you to continue calling daylight sunshine while you hail darkness as light because of your biased nature and personal dishonesty. You will only succeed to wreck your own life with such a backward and dishonest inability to see or admit the truth which, in this case, is that GEJ is a crook only other crooks will deem worthy of praise. By your logic we should praise the leader who builds a prison yet does not have the balls to jail the many rapist, murderers, terrorists, armed robbers and criminals roaming the streets with impunity and harassing innocent Nigerians. Some Nigerians and their degenerate logic. God 'bless' GEJ indeed. You have no shame or decency considering you can still speak like this after all that has been exposed about the corrupt messiah you continue to worship like a god.

Firefire:


How will the 2nd Term looks like ? considering Fashola's over-performance in his 1st term too.

SW Governors are known to perform on their first leg, history has shown that their second term is a colossal disaster.

Examples:
- Fashola
- Aregbesola
- Ajimobi
- Amosu
Among others... Should we now call for just ONE term for all governors?
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Are you not getting ahead of yourself with the negativity? Are you a Lagosian? If yes simply support your performing governor to do as much as he can today and stop the doom-and-gloom focus on what will happen in four years time.

Besides your "colossal disaster" generalisation is wrong. Fashola did well in his second term but not as noticeably as in his first term because some of the project in his first term were really fundamental foundation projects. Aregbesola, despite good intentions, was overtaken by lack of funds and a State increasingly recieving less because of falling FG allocation due to crashing oil prices. Ditto for Ogun and Oyo. You forget that the exemplary non-oil income of Lagos, i.e IGR which Fashola helped to raise massively in 8 years, means it is the only State in Nigeria capable of surviving without oil income .

This gives Ambode, an already focused leader, room to 'breathe' and shine when other first-term performers like Amosun et al are really struggling and do not have the same opportunity because IGR is not where it should be and virtually all FG allocation being received, in a time oil income is very low, must go towards recurrent expenditure, like salary, rather than towards capital spending. How many Nigerian governor do you see spending heavily on capital projects today? Simply give credit where due and move on. You did not contribute to praise Ambode. Instead you spoke to deliver your usual biased and gloomy opinion against APC leaders you can never seem to control even when such is totally out of place and unnecessary.

modath:


1. You didn't do any wrong, you had nothing to judge him by & the propaganda against him as Tinubu puppet 2.0 was fierce, so it was all good..

2. I am hella flabbergasted as well, i expected him to shut haters up but i never ever ever ever envisaged that he will go with Rihanna's Hit track & be all Work, Work, Work ,work ......

Ambode is Bae right now...



Cc Anonimi & Firefire, what says una?

I knew Ambode will transform Lagos and that was why I was one of the few to state with certainty that he can do better than Fashola. Remember the thread below you contributed to?

https://www.nairaland.com/2684014/yoruba-commonwealth-politics/378


I left that thread when puffed up and arrogantly self-important yet ultimately ignorant posters like Katsumoto and his blind followership, who do not know the SW and have not set foot there in a long time if ever, started insulting Yoruba leader and branding them all "failures" to include Ambode. My argument was that you cannot be for progressive leadership and yet be unwilling to give new leaders a chance in a time when paucity of funds meant Governors may not move as fast as they would like to. Yet Ambode is disgracing them all to bear out my opinion that many of the present crop of SW leaders should be supported rather than derided hollowly and ignorantly because they are better than their compatriots throughout Nigeria comparatively and given the atmosphere they work in. Anyway I am just happy, as a Lagosian, that Ambode is 'coming good' as I insisted he would.

JBismarck:
Ambode again! When will he arrive gan self? So, with all these, he's still 'ambo'?. Issorite, I go wait here to see him arrive.

On a serious note, this man will kill me with shame because I didn't stop at not voting for him but campaigned vigorously against him which made him lose the 5 polling units in my vicinity at Egbeda area. I'm so sorry to those I mislead about him.

OK, as a sign of respect, I have nothing to give him but I have already voted for him in 2019 only waiting for the formality of electioneering.

Very classy of you but still keep him on his toes as a constructive critic. As a Lagosian, I am happy so far with Ambode so far and was one of those who stated that he can even do better than Fashola but there should be no room for complacency. We must continue to challenge him to deliver.

zheroes:


The man Kneeling down in the picture below is Bunmi Falana, a.k.a Bumshaka. Egbon, Bumshaka is one of the Ayo Fayose's boys together with Egbon,Goke Olatunji [G.O.K] Fayose's P.A in the past. Goke and Bunmi were together with Ayo Fayose during the 2003 Governorship struggle against Otunba Niyi Adebayo the then incumbent Governor.

When Fayose emerged as the Executive Governor of the State, he appointed Goke as Personal Assistant, while Bunmi [Bumshaka] was said to inform Fayose that he preferred a career job, hence he was fixed with Zenith Bank via the capacity of Ayo Fayose, and for his banking purposes.

He was brought in to handle all his banking transactions till 2006 when Mr. Fayose was chased out of Ekiti State Government House following his impeachment. After this regrettable rein of Mr. Fayose in 2006, Bunmi Falana [Bumshaka] was transferred by Zenith Bank to Ifo branch of zenith bank in Ogun State until 2014 when he was expectedly transferred back to Ekiti at the commencement of the June 21, 2014 Governorship Election Campaigns in the State as requested by Gov. Fayose.

This transfer request and the promotion of Bunmi as the Branch Manager are part of the conditions Gov. Fayose gave Zenith Bank before he could have confidence in any transaction with the Bank. About the ongoing drama titled, Ayo Fayose's Election fund by Zenith Bank; Fayose strongly felt disappointed in his boy [Bumshaka] in which the said boy realize and thereby resolved to beg his boss who by his chances rise to his present status in the Banking job.

To the notice of the General Public, Bunmi Falana a.k.a Bumshaka begs Gov. Fayose within his individual capacity, and NOT on behalf of the Zenith Bank. The way Bunmi Falana dramatised, by kneeling down to beg Gov. Fayose in the presence of the Zenith Bank Executives was strange, but left with no choice than to be short of words.

Thanks for the info. If all you assert is correct then it is further proof of how Ekiti folks goofed big-time by making Fayose Governor. The guy is a machiavellian crook, bereft of even an iota of leadership ability, with a fondness for Nollywood-style shenanigans while he neglects his duty of leading the State. Imagine that Fayose placed minions everywhere with the intention of using them for his scams, looting and schemes? How can Ekiti folks forget this man was initially disgraced out of office for corruption and looting of Ekiti coffers?

The man is even more worthless than I thought and I now even pity EKiti folks more. You appear knowledgeable about Ekiti and I will assume you are from the State. I can only advise you to begin sensitising the people of the State as per the urgent need to get rid of Fayose ASAP. He is the most useless and most disgraceful Governor the SW has ever seen. No contest at all.

modath:

Ever since that big headed Mofo declared SW as being "too peaceful" in the midst of chaos, there has been orchestration to draw SW into armed conflict...

Akpabio if you want to destabilize the government, to cover up you & your cronies briggandage & mindless looting, restrict your activities to the ND.

We prefer the Brexit way, Violence isn't our thing...

Cc

Ramdeuter, TheVoice, Karm16, Pentiumpro, iamdiabolic, omoajowa7, seunmsg, Gbawe, Musiwa419, hundredhunndred..... etc.

My dear lady, isolated attacks, with the element of surprise, will always succeed anywhere. If these attacks are indeed the work of militants then no need to warn them because the Yorubas will soon realise they have no choice but to defend themselves and treat every non-Yoruba, resident in Yorubaland or not, as a potential enemy. If that is what some myopic people want then so be it. The world today is full of people who start trouble yet will ultimately end up the biggest losers because of their rash and short-sighted actions. I personally have no fear for the Yorubas however 'dark' and troubled Nigeria becomes. We are not the most peaceful region by accident. It is that way because we are pragmatic and always think before we act.

I really feel sorry for some people because so many historical myths are being dispelled and debunked daily. For example those who tout themselves "brave" , i.e loud-mouthed and braggart IPOBians, have been shown to be nothing but ultimatum-issuing cowards who could not actualize their many threat to "destroy" Nigeria or save their ashewo-loving messiah (Kanu) they claimed many, many months ago "must not be arrested or detained else Nigeria will burn". Meanwhile the Yorubas they love to badmouth have been teaching everyone lessons about talking less to then get what you want with action and deliberate planning. If these folks want to drag Yorubas into efforts to ferment chaos everywhere then they must not be worried about their people residing in the SW who will automatiically now gain the suspicion and disdain of the people with a new "everyone to their corner" precedence set once and for all that they will be the biggest victims of. Myopic people cry the most in the end.

ochukoccna:
Good for them
Great news for Scottish independence cos Scotland will demand a new referendum which the SNP will WIN
Pompous Brits will now find out that they are an 'also ran' nation who believed Brexit will BRING BACK great British empire whose sun never set
The world may have ONCE revolved round Britain but that was eons ago
Britain is well managed but they should face it that the once great power is not coming back
Also Dodgy Dave Cameron legacy will be the Prime Minister who broke up 2 unions

I have to agree with you here but I will be glad to be proven wrong. I think it will be obvious to Britons soon that they have damaged trade with others immensely and created a paradigm shift in thinking whereby other European nations, because of her past, always overlooked the UK's limitation to view Britain as a noble and great nation within the EU. I think there is a lot of hype about the UK's real economic ability and potentials. Now others will take stock and begin dealing dispassionately with the UK similar to how divorced couples deal with each other. Others will begin to consider pragmatically what they really want from a UK outside the EU they cannot get elsewhere cheaper or more beneficially- be it goods or services. The leave crew voted to make the UK more independent without understanding that this would also make her less competitive and less of a free market while placing a burden on the nation to be more self-sufficient.

The UK will have to be less dependent on others and I think the leave voters have grossly over-estimated the ability and capacity of their Country to achieve this and still remain prosperous. Life would become considerably more expensive delivering an opposite effect to what people expected and voted for. Switzerland is an example of a well-run 'independent' nation that is terribly expensive partly because of her non-EU status but the Country and her people do okay because of a relatively small population (8.2 million) which is not the case for the UK.

The argument of Britain always having an independent and strong currency, i.e the pounds sterling rather than the Euro, holds no water as currencies are really an exponent of a nation's ability to trade and how strong/productive her economy is. The pound, from a position of strength that saw it viewed as one of the world's strongest currency, could literally become worth far less as many examples, like Zimbabwe, have shown us.

I personally think Britons will quickly realise that immigrants are not the problem. The main problem is a fixation with past glory , while doing not much to consolidate upon that past 'greatness', which leads a people to believe ignorantly that immigrants are the problem and that
once a more 'independent' UK curbed their entry into the Island then everything will be great. I think Britain's membership of the EU hid a lot of the Country's flaws and gave her a status she does not necessarily deserve. Interesting times ahead anyway.

Trapping:


We are hoping that the new government that will be ushered in will be a government of progressives, with the likes of Nigel Farage, and they've clearly stated that they will give Africa back its inheritance. In order words, they are not interested in any form of neocolonialism as we are presently witnessing in Africa and this is the reason IPOB has been praying for Brexit. Not saying that it has anything to do with Biafra, don't get me wrong, we are only expressing the hope that as they promised, they will not continue the oppressive regime Britain has been implementing throughout Africa.

So if IPOB holds her protest again in London, perhaps 10 Downing Street will support our independence, as enshrined in the UN charter of self determination. Just as we are hoping also that Trump will have such disposition.

Nigel Farage a "progressive"? What is with you IPOBians and your readiness to call the devil a saint if such benefit your clamour for secession? You must link every single thing to Biafra with a total insensitivity for appreciating what is best for others. As usual it is the scaremongering talk of 'neo-colonialism' when it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about viewing Farage as a benevolent entity. The anti-immigration sentiments that prompted Britain's exit from the EU not a good thing because it is coming at a time when the world is eschewing liberalism and the notion of supporting the less fortunate in favour of a 'me, myself and I' protectionist approach which will harm us all in the end.

With lunatics like Trump becoming more popular and racists Parties in Europe seeing an upsurge in their fortune, I will see how this benefits your clamour for Biafra since you don't understand that you are black and a racist will never consider your wellbeing his priority. He may broadly support your agitation because he is small-minded, protectionist, extremely territorial and driven by a desire to exist with his "own kind" but you will get no long term benefit from racist and protectionist government as their core view is that "my wahala na my wahala and your wahala na your wahala". Their broad mindset, which is very wrong, is that "others cause our problem and we would thrive if we cut them off". Similar to the view you IPOBians have of other Nigerians.

You all deserve each other anyway so let us see what the world will look like in ten years with the rise in popularity of 'misanthrope' leaders who are encouraging us to hate/distrust each other and make racists/discriminatory distinctions everyday like Donald Trump who advocates the dismissal and exclusion from America of anyone who does not share his parochial view of what 'Americaness' should be.

It really saddens me to see what Ekiti folks have done to themselves. This Fayose is an embarrassment. It is shocking EKiti , with their vote, declared this misruling thug, crook and criminal the best to lead them. He is a pathetic clown , totally bereft of leadership credentials and ideas, who thinks governance is a joke and a theatre of 'awada' like Nollywood. This is why he is alway engaged in publicity stunts rather than meaningful endeavours to move Ekiti forward. Cutting pomo and fish everywhere, eating in local buka, faking "investment" press conference in China, this latest 'Zenith is begging me' nonsense and many other sad stunts just confirm Fayose is an attention-seeker whose calling in life should have seen him become a TV comedian like Baba Sala instead of the governor of a Nigerian state with the wellbeing of millions of people in his hand.

http://saharareporters.com/2016/06/21/fayose-childish-boorish-instincts-presidency-says

Defenders of Fayose should read the link above and weep. The Presidency has responded empathic ally and Fayose, the shameless charlatan, is once again disgraced. Still I am sure this is not the last time he will tell outrageous lies haters of the APC and Buhari will rush to ju I late over and declare as "damning" evidence against Mr.President and his Party. Fayose and his mindless supporters, shey una see una life?

chikel2000:
Dis news will only breed war btw 2 tribes on Nairaland. Just watch

Crime is not the exclusive preserve of any single Nigerian ethnic group. All ethnic groups are involved in heinous crime and it is only bigoted and prejudiced Nigerians who believe otherwise. @topic. Jungle justice is wrong but it is worrying that three months after release from prison this guy is on the streets robbing and raping. One can understand the frustration of Nigeria as the justice system never seems capable of protecting law-abiding Nigerians from hardened criminals like this man. The Government should look at a complete overhaul of the NPF or bravely embrace change and conduct a feasibility study on State policing.

lastpage:


1.) Fayose is NOT a private Citizen....... by virtue of the 'political position' he operates

2.) Criminal cases override Civil cases (A criminal case will conclude first, if both are concurrent, to a civil case)

3.) The immunity is against prosecution.......... which (prosecution) is also applicable to civil cases

So, until l tell you l am qualified as a Lawyer (no matter how recent), that is when what l am saying will make sense to you?
Are you not aware that there are people qualified in three, four fields of profession?
Are you saying certain "basic tenets" of the law cant even be appreciated by you, who is not a Lawyer?
Have you not seen or even heard of 'individuals/civilians/lay men, defend themselves in a law court, against another litigant who brandishes a Lawyer..... and gets the case decided in their favor?

"Study of the Law enlightens the mind".... even more, an intelligent mind" - That is a Quote from my Law Professor.

Thank you for your time, l will stop responding henceforth, this being my last post to you on the subject.




Lastpage!

Edit: Bookmark this, in the fullness of time, That "legal consequence" will at best, be a futile exercise in a law court.
Ofcourse, the court is open to everyone to approach.

Thanks

you continue to show the arrogance of Nigerians I have talked about here many times. Many can see I begged the interpretation of Lawyers and humbly submitted I am not one and would therefore welcome their input. You, despite been asked directly if a lawyer, continue to cling to some 'i am right' high ground with vague reference to the constitution when everyone knows there are grey areas that mean immunity does not confer on a person the right to go around acting lawlessly. I hinted at this when , using common sense, I suggested in an earlier post that Fayose should be immune from malicious prosecution that distracts him from doing his very important job. I also added that this does not mean he escapes sanction for his own deliberate actions aimed at impugning the name or reputation of others.

You never told us if you are a lawyer or not and i can now see why. You simply want us to accept your layman interpretation as correct when you actually don't have any professional knowledge to confirm you are 100% correct. Nigerians do this a lot. I know my people and this is why I investigated further to indeed note that i have a point. I was going on instincts related to equity and fair play initially while you just want to hide behind an "immunity is complete and final" argument to support your opinion. See below to indeed note I have a valid point. Every sensible person know you cannot have access to greater specialist legal knowledge than a Presidency, which includes a distinguished and accomplished lawyer as VP, that warned that there will be "legal consequences" against Fayose's actions. Read what is written below and take it in although I suspect you will still continue to claim you know authoritatively that Fayose is above the law as is customary with many Nigerians who are always ready to argue emotionally while never humbly submitting themselves to the opinions of those who have authority to speak decisively on the matter at hand. This is why I asked if you are a lawyer in the first place, since I had asked for the input of legal experts only, and you failed to tell us this.

Nairalanders, please judge the article below yourselves from legal affairs media Nigeria while our Nairaland Femi Falana, i.e lastpage, continues to insist otherwise. We are watching since it seems lastpage and some other Nairalanders, who are all not legal experts, know more than the Presidency which insists there will be legal consequences for Fayose's action. I think it is clear , from below, that the constitution does not give Fayose carte blanche to be "verbally reckless" as this cannot be allowed to be a "defence for defamation". We will see she.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200901230475.html

Nigeria: Immunity, Defamation And Press Freedom

Legal AffairsMediaNigeriaWest Africa

By Buchi Okoli
Immunity cannot shield any governor from verbal recklessness and cannot be a defence to defamation.

The 1999 constitution contains a clause that has become flagrantly abused and disrespected by the persons to whom it refers. The section aims at protecting the persons sought to be protected. This however does not in the least permit or encourage executive lawlessness on the part of the person with immunity. [size=14pt]The person with immunity must have a duty not to deliberately flaunt the constitution and make nonsense of the immunity clause. Their criminal accusation of any citizen must be based on facts and not hearsay.[/size] A fact anyway must not necessarily be the truth. Immunity must be earned and not acquired by anybody. It applies to the office and not the person occupying the office. However in the new improved constitution yet to evolve, the excesses of this clause must be clogged. My only regret in this is that the National Assembly seem very lackadaisical about this constitutional review, which is a major function of their existence as per the 1999 constitution.

lastpage:


Sir,

Section 308 is very explicit on that matter.

Its a Constitutional matter for now.

The best/worst that can happen now (as long as he is a Governor), is to INVESTIGATE AND COMPILE a dossier on him so that the very minute his immunity lapse, he would be arrested and charged accordingly.

No Court worth its salt will even hear a case against someone whom the CONSTITUTION has granted IMMUNITY to.

Buhari is not that "nice" (and no one is) when it comes to abusing his wife ... but he knows that he is stuck with the Mad Dog for now

The Good thing is: Buhari will still be the President FRN, when Fayose's immunity lapses as a Governor. I just cant wait for that day. .



Lastpage!

We will wait and see. I personally never argue over what I am not completely knowledgeable about . You are an informed Nairalander and I would like to think you know what you are talking about. Yet the Presidency, through its official spokesperson, talked about "legal consequences" in regards to Fayose's action. I would like to think they are talking about legal consequences that will apply now and not in a few years when Fayose is without immunity. Let us wait and see.

lastpage:


No long Story Gbawe!

The LAW is as azz! Its blind, unemotional and cares-less about morality!

Fayose is IMMUNE (as in IMMUNITY) to PROSECUTION......... for as long as he is a state Governor in Nigeria.

Any suit against him, (while a Governor) will be struck out, on the first day of hearing.

End of story.

Nothing anyone can do about it..... unless the constitution is changed by the National Assembly (and you can bet that will never happen, infact the criminals would rather add themselves to the 'immunity list"!



Lastpage!

Bruv are you a lawyer? If yes why not show conclusively that the law does not distinguish between Fayose the ordinary Nigerian citizen and Fayose the governor of a Nigerian State? That is why the civil courts exists. Are you saying conclusively that a libel suit cannot be entertained as a case between two private Nigerian citizens merely because Fayose is a governor? If he is a governor always why does the law still still protects his privacy and rights as an individual also?

Please let us hear from lawyers. Surely we must have some here to shed light on the matter conclusively instead of us laymen continuing to give our own rudimentary personal opinions. The Presidency seems to believe "legal consequences" can arise against Fayose's libellous actions and I would prefer to believe a very well-advised and powerful authority such as that rather than my fellow Nairalander who is probably a businessman or IT consultant with no specialist knowledge of the law.

lastpage:


Fayose is acting loose because he knows he enjoys IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION.

Aisha cant sue him as long as he is a Governor. Simple, True and Period!
That is the "criminal" constitution that Babangida, Abdusallami foisted on Nigerians

But there are at least seven ways to skin a cat like Fayose.
Fayose can be "investigated" and "soften properly"... while waiting for his term to run out (They must ensure he does not become a Senator and does not run-away, a day before handing over)

That b@stard needs to be taught a serious lesson.


He has not only abused the office of a Governor, he has desecrated that office beyond comprehension.


But Aisha should never come down to his gutter level......NEVER!



Lastpage!

Not sure Fayose cannot be sued as you claim. Are we sure a civil suit cannot compel Fayose to appear as an ordinary citizen, minus political office, to defend allegations of slander against another Nigerian citizen? Immunity should prevent Fayose facing any criminal conviction that may see him jailed while in office but I think he is answerable to civil suits brought up again him. Lawyers here should interpret for us as I cannot be bothered to do the research. The Presidency feels that "legal consequences" can arise to deal with Fayose's libellous actions against the first lady and I would like to think the Presidency, including a lawyer VP who excelled in his primary profession, is well-advised over this issue.

StOla:
I guess Fayose's gubernatorial immunity precludes him from a libel law suit, seeing that the evidence points to an impostor daughter of Buhari and not even to his wife.

If this account truly belongs to Aisha (as I'm not sure any has ever been associated with her), it only reveals that she's a woman who can never exercise the restraint a man can.

She should also consider Fayose's plight. A drowning man would always grab on to anything he can lay hold to.

Bruv, I would hope our lawyers on NL help us interpret this, as I am not a lawyer, but I am not sure Fayose has immunity from a civil suit regarding his libellous conduct against others. Loosely I can understand how the immunity law can protect Fayose against false accusations et al, since many distractive accusation could be alleged against important politicians for frivolous reasons, but I don't see how Fayose can openly slander others and get away with it with the victim having no recourse to the law courts to gain justice. Lawyers beg shed light on the matter because it seems fundamentally wrong for Fayose to go around acting like this with the victims of his action unable to gain justice and prevent him from doing same in future. Shah Garba , the President's spokesman, has already hinted that a libel suit may be pending against Fayose and I would like to think he knows what he is talk about.


http://saharareporters.com/2016/06/21/fayose-childish-boorish-instincts-presidency-says

He warned Fayose that Aisha Buhari is entitled to protect her reputation from being recklessly maligned, adding that political opposition is not a licence to attack people's reputation brazenly without legal consequences.

He warned Fayose that Aisha Buhari is entitled to protect her reputation from being recklessly maligned, adding that political opposition is not a licence to attack people's reputation brazenly without legal consequences.

Achuwa1:
Aisha Buhari should come out & clear her name coz there are lots of other names involved in the so called scam including present NNPC boss.

You children of hate never fail to amuse me. Don't you know the burden of proof is on the accuser otherwise the world will become a joke? If you are a busy businessman and 50 people come to accuse you of theft today does common sense not tell you they must prove their case against you otherwise your livelihood will suffer immensely while you try to "come out & clear" your name against every single wild allegation made. This is why those young people died at the hands of those ALUU thugs in a barbaric scene I believe you would have joined in had you been there. Instead of urging the accusers to prove their case against those young men the wild mob pronounced a guilty verdict on them and lynched them !!!

It later emerged that those who owed the young men money, rather than pay back, simply called them armed robbers to escape paying their debt and the ignorant, bloodthirsty and uncivilised mob simply went ahead to savagely murder those boys. It is the same antics Fayose is using. He is like the deceptive ALUU debtors, seeking to escape their debts, while you act like the uncivilised lynch mob those dishonourable and despicable touts used to wipe those boys out. Fayose wants to use lies to escape his 'debt' to the EFCC and he is finding backing from ALUU savages like you who dare ask our first lady to defend allegations Fayose should have conclusive proof of before he even went public with his accusations.

People like you need salvation if you do not understand that wild and unsubstantiated allegation is not something educated and civilised people take seriously let alone act upon. Hate has so eroded your mind you don't even know what the accepted norm worldwide is for justice, Fair play and equity. You just simply make up your own ridiculous opinions as you go along once it is someone you hate primordially that is involved. Really sad and you should change your way to begin acting civilised instead of sounding like a caveman who does not belong in orderly society.

bashydemy1:
Oga you have been ranting have you seen this threads



https://www.nairaland.com/3179337/aisha-buhari-jefferson-bribery-scandal



https://www.nairaland.com/3179636/aisha-buharis-impostor-passport-jefferson

Don't bother expecting a response because it is mostly in Nigerians I see the two things below which means you will never get a response and not a civil or conciliatory one anyway if you do get one.

(1) The fondness for maligning and insulting others based on pure conjectures and unsubstantiated rumours even when it is obvious such is entirely fake and the work of mischief-makers. Wole Soyinka has been a victim of this many times with children of hate happy to insult, with total abandon, this man who has defended all Nigerians including they themselves.

(2) A total lack of shame and decorum that means those doing what is described above will continue to insult others and fraudulently insist their lies are true even when those lies have been debunked robustly and conclusively. This is why I always insist Nigerians are their own biggest enemies. A country with many of her folks so hate-filled they will believe anything, regardless of how ludicrous such sounds, against those they hate while they then take it upon themselves to spread what they know in their heart is pure falsehood.


Only God will deliver Nigeria my brother. Suffice to say I had to laugh when I saw amateurish and desperate antics of 'drowning man' Fayose in the attempt to deceive gullible/hateful Nigerians with the hope such will divert attention away from his indictment for election-rigging and corruption. I don't know when some Nigerians will understand that the likes of Fayose will always lie ludicrously because they think they will get away with it. In short Fayose et al think most Nigerians are simpletons he can manipulate at will and I am tempted to agree because my experience of other Countries show you don't behave as shamelessly and as deceptively as Fayose has done so many times yet still have the backing of a significant amount of a Nation's populace. Nigeria is always proving to be an aberration and a disgrace just like Fayose.

I seriously hope our first lady sues Fayose for libel and follow the case to the end so that a precedence is set that will make Nigerians , especially highly-placed folks, understand that you cannot just malign the characters of others with lies and get away with such. Even more disgraceful it is the governor of a Nigerian State doing such.

http://saharareporters.com/2016/06/21/fayose-childish-boorish-instincts-presidency-says

Defenders of Fayose should read the link above and weep. The Presidency has responded empathically and Fayose, the shameless charlatan, is once again disgraced. Still I am sure this is not the last time he will tell outrageous lies haters of the APC and Buhari will rush to jubilate over and declare as "damning" evidence against Mr.President and his Party. Fayose and his mindless supporters, shey una see una life? Your agbero messiah should face the damning indictment levelled against him and stop these childish and "boorish" antics that will only deceive gullible and biased Nigerians.

mikki123:
Even if Fayose is guilty,,is Aisha Buhari not guilty also.
FAYOSE is corrupt


AISHA buhari is also corrupt

Investigate Fayose, investigate Aisha Buhari also

Look, the point is that it has been proven that Fayose is a shameless liar and desperado. Why on earth will you then believe what he says as gospel truth when it is likely to be another of his shameless lies crafted to divert attention away from the travails he is facing? Why not simply wait for Fayose or anyone else to prove the allegation correct completely. Sketchy articles pointing to an Aisha Buhari, claimed to be wife/daughter/niece/sister-in-law of Buhari, appearing in a USA court is not enough proof for me. Especially coming from Fayose the shameless liar. Sorry but I choose not to be an unthinking and gullible 'tool' a desperado like Fayose will use in his attempt to escape what appears like a rock-solid indictment of his involvement in Dasuki-Gate. It is mainly in Nigeria I see people desperate to believe the words of proven liars. In most countries when you lose your credibility, because it has been established you are dishonest, then your credibility stays lost

Some people should be reminded of the serious allegation facing Fayose that the thuggish pomo-cutting and buka-visiting "man of the people" governor is attempting to divert attention away from. I.e N1.2 billion in his personal account has been linked directly to former NSA Dasuki. Some folks should learn to put hate aside and be objective. Because you dislike Buhari and the APC does not mean you ignore the wrongdoing of others merely because you think they are helping you attack and bring down those you hate unjustifiably. Fayose should face his issues which are very serious in my opinion and confirm he is a thief linked to corruption, election-rigging and treason. Some people are not even ashamed to support a man shown to have collected the large sum of N1.2 billion from a fund disbursed to fight terror and save Nigerian lives and property. I.e the lives and property of even you reading.

http://saharareporters.com/2016/06/20/governor-fayose’s-bank-account-frozen-because-it-contained-₦12billion-nsa-funds-efcc

Governor Fayose’s Bank Account Frozen Because It Contained ₦1.2billion NSA Funds, EFCC Sources Reveal
Sources at Nigeria's premier anti-corruption agency, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) have revealed that a personal account at the Zenith Bank of Nigeria of Ekiti State Governor, Ayodele Fayose, was frozen in connection with over N1.2billion he took in 2014 from the disgraced National Security Adviser (NSA), Sambo Dasuki, to prosecute his re-election as governor. Several of the operatives said the action came at the end of agency’s year-long investigation into the matter.

oyb:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-jefferson-and-nigeria/



I am ashamed for Fayose

recycling desperate smear jobs from gej's failed campaign. touting a scammer who claimed to be buhari's daughter as buhari's wife

the noose is closing

all his noise has been a desperate format to paint a picture of persecution when his cup is full

Honestly OYB I am surprised at how incredibly gullible some Nigerians can be. Is this not the same Fayose that is a proven and shameless liar who has been discredited for telling ridiculous tales many times yet never desists from doing same in future? He told us Buhari had cancer and is close to death when we all know he has no access to Buhari's medical record. Also, did he not lie, just to discredit the government, that billions was being stolen by the Buhari government from the TSA account only for it to be revealed that it is the CBN, commercial banks and the operator of the system used for the TSA that share a commission far smaller than the figure touted about by Fayose? Sometimes Nigerians shock me with how they seem to have no morals and uprightness.

In sane clime if one is a criminal or a known slanderer then people will take this into consideration when you talk. They will never take your word as gospel truth because they are aware of your history as a dishonest person. Fayose is a known liar and mischief-maker yet some are quick to dance over tales any half-intelligent person knows may simply be another one of his desperate lies. This is a governor who has being a total and underwhelming disappointed to the people of Ekiti because of his lack of performance yet has mastered the art of lying controversially and deceptively to move attention away from his non-performance and travails. Rather than be like Ambode who gets on with his job silently, to now be adjudged best governor in Nigeria, all that the glorified thug called Fayose can do is make noise foolishly while charlatans hail his idiocy and ignore his failing as governor plus what he is currently indicted for by the EFCC. Na wa for my people sha.

BiafranJesus:
Yoruba are scared.

This is the problem with most Nigerians. I.e the tribalism and baseless hatred of others that destroys the ability to reason properly and find solutions to perennial problems. The OP is right to an extent and this is the time for all Nigerians to take a long, hard look at themselves and work out the role they must play in liberating themselves from poverty and deprivation. Instead of shouting "Yoruba" foolishly, every time someone ask you to take stock of your own failing and address it, why not tell us who has failed you the most if not your own leaders who looted all the funds meant for your development to then leave you impoverished.

What the OP said that I quote below is the truth every Nigerian must confront. First identify your biggest enemy, who is right at your doorstep in the Niger Delta or in Igboland, before looking to blame the man in Ogun or Osun State for all your woes. When you do such you are simply showing you are an unreasonable individual who will find it difficult to craft solutions for problems because bias leads you conclude erroneously who/what the source of the problem is. Good luck to you and carry on with your retrogressive mindset. I will see where such will get you and others in this period of severe austerity all Nigerians must face with pragmatism if we are to stand a chance of seeing a brighter future. This is the time for all Nigerians to hold their elected leaders accountable instead of blaming other Nigerians from different ethnic group who are suffering same as you are. The same Jonathan worshipped clannishly in the SE and SS did nothing but enshrine further poverty and underdevelopment on his own oil-producing region with minions like Orubebe, Tompolo et al. You guys have no shame always mentioning Yoruba while being shagged without vaseline by your own worthless leaders and kinsmen.

The Political Leadership in the Niger Delta and Particularly the Ijaw Nations are the Enemies of the People. For decades they have looted any attempt at fixing the problem of the region. Our Failure as a Region is our Fault as a People. Leadership in the Region have failed for decades and the people have encouraged it.

Does not look like a "multi million" living abode to me. looks like a standard decent flat. Not special at all.

SmithHumble50:
We dey suffer.. Na selfie una dey take abi?

They are young people entitled to enjoy their lives. It is their father who was elected to lead you and not them.