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Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by QueenAgbo(f): 11:23am On May 06, 2022 |
Nozino: No, ogbemudia intention was genuin but forgets that he will not be there forever,Benin politicians after ogbemudia left office started marginalizing Ikas in Edo state. Well,Now Ikas in Delta are trying to put our land in better shape especially Agbor and owA.Soon we will for our brothers in Edo. It will even help us more in Delta state politics because our population will increase. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by QueenAgbo(f): 11:29am On May 06, 2022 |
As for oza people,they have oza-nisi(ozanibokunla) in Edo state that is under the oza-nogogo in Delta state. The ogizi of oza rules both villages,and under Dein of Agbor,though he has a semi-independent power from Dein of Agbor but he still remain under him... In Oza we didn't oppressed them,Okowa even help them with an hospital because Okowa was born there..... |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Nozino: 11:55am On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo: Ok. How will you guys handle their Bini names? |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 12:04pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:Yes you believe there is a difference between ethnicity and nationality I heard you the first time. That is your opinion. There are different opinions The fact that you believe you are right does not make you right So the fact that you believe you have understanding and another person does not is YOUR OPINION. Nothing more Everyone with internet access can come online and pretend to themselves they are an intellectual. That is one beautiful thing about the internet . Everyone can come and feel good about themselves 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Akudaisi: 12:17pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:Are you by chance saying that u believe there's no difference between ethnicity and nationality . I guess in internet one can argue about anything,I can even say that u're alive and u can argue that u're dead |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Nobody: 12:18pm On May 06, 2022 |
everythinggirly:STUPIDITY. Agbor hate Igbos more than any other people on this earth and its because of this Igbo lack of shame. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 12:24pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:Those are words . Words often have several meanings in the dictionary or even context . There are few words in the dictionary with ONLY ONE meaning. So you can choose to believe what you want depending on your intellectual level and language development. What I believe is my business Why not research if the two words are synonyms of each other .That might help I recommend Thesaurus.com The most ignorant and foolish people often think they know more than everyone when in fact they know nothing 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Nobody: 12:24pm On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo: Na their way. Igbos have become very annoying and impossible. This very post is so annoying that I will never vote an Igbo anything on this earth. I was going yo vote Obi but this people are toxic. My Ika cousin besides me is boiling with rage. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by spearman(m): 12:43pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137: The heavy cannibal lines on below map indicate the limits of Igbo land and culture. All who fall outside the cannibal line are not Igbos. Plain to see. 1 Like
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Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Akudaisi: 12:45pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:everyone knows that ethnicity and nationality are synonymous words to an extent but that doesn't change the fact that there's no difference between them,it's like u like argument. Nawa for ur education speaking big Grammer's without understanding. I have dual nationality, Nigerian and Gabonese My ethnicity is Igbo nothing can change that. Every country has it's native ethnic groups,they are ethnic Germans,french,Brits etc,(t tomorrow u can migrate to Germany and become a citizen,but hell u can never become an ethnic German never ,u're still Benin by ethnicity) your nationality can change but ethnicity no it can't, unless u're one of those long lost slaves from slave trade era,but that's not possible and even some still know there ethnic background and hold on to it. I hate long words I hope this one is plain enough for u to understand. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by ThEGodFaThEr137: 12:49pm On May 06, 2022 |
spearman:If I were you I would ask my mum to tell me who your real father his. I heard you're a product of gang.bang from a group of 5 able bodied touts who your mother willingly did "bend down low" so as to get some bottles of beer and a hot plate of Isiewu. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Nobody: 12:57pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137: If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 12:57pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:Who is arguing? here? Certainly not me Guy go and play Scroll up all the rubbish you have written and see who is arguing and who likes argument I really do not like associating with empty heads not to talk of arguing Believe what you want it is not my business I have made no effort to change your beliefs I do not care what you believe All I said was Define Igbo And you started talking rubbish |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by ThEGodFaThEr137: 12:59pm On May 06, 2022 |
jerseyboy:I think you should also ask your mum who your real father his too. That man at home you call father is not your father. Ask your mum, she knows the truth. 1 Like
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Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Akudaisi: 1:00pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:for someone cunningly saying ethnicity and nationality are the same thing I bet your head is more empty . What's more rubbish than telling me to define Igbo . Ok here's a real quick foolish question. Define Benin 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 1:02pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:cunningly or otherwise I never uttered the words ethnicity or nationality . That was your response when all I asked you was "define Igbo" Now you have added lying to ignorance What a shame!! People use words anyhow and so it is necessary to clarify what they mean by asking for definitions? Ethnicity has several meanings . Nationality has several meanings So they could mean the same thing it depends on what is being said. At any rate before now I have never expressed any opinion on those words because I did not use them You are a liar and an ignoramus |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by ThEGodFaThEr137: 1:04pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:You can start by defining who your real father is and not the man you call father at home. The truth Is.........only your mum can truly define him. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by chrismastre5(m): 1:04pm On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo:counter him with facts na, bring out your own evidence to disprove his na. Other tribes are actually laughing at you, calling you names but you think you are wise. If you don't want to be part of your people fine but still does not change your history. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 1:08pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137:In your mind saying this makes you a hardman. Guy na real ghetto you be 0. Very tough guy!!, I sure say you dey use nail brush teeth. If Putin see you he go dey shake Bad ass Nigga. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by ThEGodFaThEr137: 1:09pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:Guy, go and have your brain examined! You don't look normal. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Idiko1: 1:14pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137: It just a reminder, Ali or Ani or Ala. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 1:16pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137:Hard man You are a real tough guy |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by ken6488(m): 1:21pm On May 06, 2022 |
Argbor is argbo Igbo is Igbo Stop forcing your self on other’s |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Idiko1: 1:22pm On May 06, 2022 |
ThEGodFaThEr137: Bro the dude is one reason among numerous reasons Nigeria is called basket of fools. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Aksnoopy: 1:35pm On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo:Lol! The same ogbemudia from igbanke? You are the confused one. You have no identity. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Nobody: 1:42pm On May 06, 2022 |
chrismastre5:WTF. You are going to tell a man who he is? You guys are really cannibals. Ika is well outside the cannibal map. Anthropology would conclude they could never be Igbo. Not even Asaba is Igbo
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Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Aksnoopy: 1:45pm On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo:Most of the ashawo girls in Lagos, Benin city and in the north claiming to be Igbo girls are all agbor girls. In fact I know some who do their ashawo work in owerri and Lagos. If you ask them thy will say their name is ifeoma and they are Igbo. Lmao! Mum u people. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Aksnoopy: 1:52pm On May 06, 2022 |
QueenAgbo:The bolded shows that you are mentally deranged, confused and brainwashed. One minute you claim your ancestry is from Benin, the next minute you claim you have no Igbo ancestry, no this. You are very confused. You agbor people are very dubious and thats why Benin people don't trust you guys. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by spearman(m): 1:53pm On May 06, 2022 |
History/Origin of Agbor Agbor is the biggest and the most cosmopolitan city of the lka nation. The historic origin of Agbor kingdom as we stated earlier has different angles. Some writers trace the origin of Agbor to the reign of Oba Ewedo of Benin. According to this perspective - the Oba had twin sons named Edo and Ogugunagbon. Both were subjected to a kind of lucky dip in order to pick a successor to Oba Ewedo. Ogugunagbon was unlucky to choose the wrong box and had to leave Benin with throng of his supporters to a new location leading to his founding of Agbor. However, Prince Adams Gbenoba in his book "The History and Culture of Agbor (Agbon) Kingdom" agrees with the Benin origin but adds another angle: "Without doubt, beyond myths and legends by way of oral tradition, no accounts can be more authentic than the neutral, historical accounts of colonial travelers, explorers and administrators. Mr. J. Macrae-Simpson on page 5 of his "1935 INTELLIGENCE REPORT ON THE AGBOR CLAN IN THE AGBOR DISTRICT' recorded thus: "Talbet, on page 168 of Volume 1 of Southern Nigeria", quotes an extract from the chronicle of the Dutch historian-traveller Henrik Nyendael, which seems to be a description of the exodus from Benin of the founder of Agbor Clan: "After this barbarity, the King aIso found a third manthat stood on hisway, who, being universally beloved,was timely warned ...and accordingly took his flight, accompanied by three-fourths of the inhabitants of the town. The King caused the fugitives to be pursued.. Then the fugitives, thoroughly incensed and flushed, came directly to the City, which they plundered and pillaged, sparing no place but the King's Court; after which he returned, but incessantly continued to rob the inhabitants of Great Benin, till at last a peace was concluded ... He lives two or three days' journey from Benin, where he keeps at Agbor as great a Court and State as the King...".Talbet goes on to say that of the two families that left Benin at this time (shortly before Nyandael's visit in 1702), one settled at Agbor while the other went to Obior, another Clan in the Agbor District. Of the same Obior family came also the ancestors of Onitsha-Mili (the Onitsha Waterside of today). It is a tradition of the Obior people, and indeed of most of the Clans between them and the Niger, and also of Onitsha itself, that their tribe was founded by Chima a refugee from Benin City...The story is that Chima?, when driven from Benin, traveled eastwards towards the Niger, which he eventually crossed, and settled in Onitsha. There he begat nine children, of which eight died, leaving him with a daughter called Owuwu. Believing that the loss of his children was caused by witchcraft, he left Onitsha and returning to Agbor, long existing country, settled at Osarra (present day Ozanogogo- previously called Ozarra- in Agbor Kingdom), where one of the quarters to this day bears the name of his sole remaining child, Owuwu. Similarly Onyekpeze F. A, a foremost writer of lka history in his book ·An outline of the Culture & Socio-Economic Interest of the Ika Nation emphasizes this trend of the Benin factor in the formation of Agbor: One factor is that the place names of Agbor and Its outlying settlements are Bini words. Another factor which buttresses Agbor claim to Bini origin is that the villages in Agbor Town viz, lghogbe, Olihe, Ogbeisere, Ohumere, Ehaikpen, Ogbesogban and Ogbeiwaise, etc. are a replica of the villages in Benin City. In addition, even the lhogbes of Agbor like the lghogbes of Benin City, claim lfe origin and their ancestors are believed to have accompanied Prince Oromiyan from lfeto Benin to establish the present monarchy. The Agbor titleship, Uzaman, lhaime, Odlonwere and Ehaivbo, and its system of government are similar to those of Benin. Furthermore, inAgbor's oral tradition, the king of Agborwas popularly known as Ogle Agbon, meaning the ruler of the whole world. The question which arises is, when did the title of the ruler of Agbor change from Ogle to Obi of Agbor? One can therefore acceptthe Bini oral tradition thatthe rulers of lka now called Obis were Ogies as other rulers or Chiefs or Oba's representatives in Benin Division. It may be that the rulers of lka, especially the ruler of Agbor regarded Ogle as belittling and wanted a more prestigious title, especially after successfully severing political relationship with Benin following the deportation of Oba Ovoramwen in 1898. Despite these different views Agbor continues to wax stronger with a rich cultura Iheritage. 1. Ime-Obizone comprising of: (i) Ogbemudein (ii) lhaikpen (iii) lghogbe (iv) Ohumere (v) Ogbe-lsere (vi) Ogbe-lsogban (vii) Obi-Oiihe (viii Oruru (ix) ldumu Agbamise. (x) Ogbe-Ase (lwase). 2. Ihuiyase zone comprising of: (i) Ewuru (ii) Agbor-Nta (iii) Aliokpu (iv) Alihami (v) Alihagu I& II (vi) Oki (vii) Alifekede (viii) Aliagwai (ix) ldumu-Oza 3.1hu-Ozomor zone (i) Alizomor (ii) Omumu (iii) Alisimie ldumu ltenei (iv) Oza-Nogogo (v) Owuwu (vi) Uvbere (vii) Alisor (viii) Alibido (ix) Aliebi (x) ldumuenwan (xi) Alileha (xii) ldumnleha 4. Orogodo zone comprising of: (i) GRAI & II (ii) Orogodo Urban or Boji Boji-Agbor (iii) Emuhu 5. Ekuku-Agbor zone comprising of: (iv) Ekuku-Agbor (v) Alidinma (vi) Obi lduhon (vii) ObiAgbor It is pertinent to point here three of these villages- Alisor, Alilehan and Ozanogogo speak Oza language of the edo people and notthe lka language. Government of Agbor The monarchy rules the Agbor kingdom.The Dein is the king of Agbor kingdom. He is the supreme authority for the whole entire kingdom. Dein was the first ruler of Agbor .He reigned from 1270 to 1307 with his headquarters at Agbor-nta. However, the headquarters of the Agbor Kingdom has moved to different locations for a couple of times in order to maintain a modicum of impregnability and invincibility of the kingdom. The Dein was the commander in chief of the Agbor kingdom. Agbor warriors feared no foe. Their exploits are legendary and they maintained their territories with an iron fist. The Agbor kingdom founded outposts towns far away from the kingdom to protect itself from foreign invasions. Dynasty till Date 1. Dein 1270 to 1307 2. Owuwu 1307 to 1333 3. Akina 1333 to 1460 4. Agho 1460 to 1518 5. Oguade 1518 to 1594 6. Ahisama 1598 to 1630 7. Oseh 1630 to 1650 8. Oje-1650 to 1658 9. Adigwe 1698 to 1740 10. Modu 1740 to 1795 11. Obanor 1795 to 1885 12. Odin 1885 to 1890 13. Gbenoba 1890 to 1911 14. Agborbu 1914 to 1929 15. Obika 1935 to 1967 16. lkenchuku 1968 to 1979 17. Kiagboekuzi 1979 till date. |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Akudaisi: 1:55pm On May 06, 2022 |
aribisala0:synonyms and definitions are different thing,let me help you small I know there's alot of confusion in the country Sha and identity concept can be confusing. Ethnicity: put simply, is someone's regional cultural heritage. This includes a person's native language, his ancestry and their religion, and their cultural practices. In this case, ethnicity is tied much more closely to geographical region,common ancestry,and culture.e.t.c Examples of ethnic groups are Igbo,Fang,Yoruba,Benin etc. Nationality: simply is The legal sense of belonging to a specific political nation state through Citizenship (birthright or naturalized). I don't have have anything in common with you to be a Nigerian like you, aside having the right ID cards and some documentations. Examples, Nigeria,South Africa,USA,UK,India etc. Call me a liar ahahaha Lol if ethnicity and nationality pass the above definitions then you're on the wrong side my friend... It's only in South East Asia that are save from these confusion because the westerns never disorganized them through their devilish colonization,they aren't much multiethnic nations,every Nation elsewhere is multiethnic especially in Africa and that's what is confusion your likes Na Britain I blame if not wetin for concern me and u. If anyone is ignorant it's definitely you that says nationality and ethnicity are the same thing because it has several meaning . You lack understanding 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by Aksnoopy: 1:57pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:Its also the same in yorubaland. There are different dialects in ekiti, ikere dialect is different from iyin ekiti dialect. Owo dialect differs from ijebu dialect. The problem is that agbor people don't travel. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Agbor And The Obi Of Agbor by aribisala0(m): 2:03pm On May 06, 2022 |
Akudaisi:You are dry, uninteresting, empty, ignorant and obnoxious In short a waste of space and time Like I said the world is full of fools with opinions You are entitled to your opinions DId anyone ask you for a lecture on ethnicity or Nationality? Yet you say someone likes arguing. I am sure you will argue with an empty room Go away |
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