biosilicon:


Na fraud abi? oya carry police come. You get bad mind oo this man. Oya stop crying you here?

The screenshot i attached is the only reason you are crying. Thunder fire you there.

GAZZUZZ:


Fraud on this platform should be exposed. Snakes should not be allowed to live among us.

Alexiiydon:
how is that one a scam no be you get tv you dey ask for profit baba wise up even if you pay for an receipt never Dey your hand so no be you get am what if he no send you your money you go cry blood

biosilicon:


Yes business should not be done based on trust oga, go and hug transformer.

ridge:
At least biosilicon for drop one cold bottle of Orijin for your time. The biz was based on friendship trust

valarinz:
Wow, just wow!!

valarinz:
Wow, just wow!!!

Took me a while to read from page 1 to 8, I have to say an average Nigerian is so criminal minded even Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King combined as president and VP can't help us in a thousand years, Chai

Or is it because many of the posters have their personal hatred for gazzuzz and won't give up any avenue to pursue a vendetta?

This is one of the clearest case of people trying desperately to convince themselves that black is actually white, all because they don't like the OP. Shame on you all.

@biosilicon, contrary to your warped belief, business is done solely on trust, it's the very bedrock in which a good business foundation is laid. If you were willing to sacrifice your "business trust" for ₦50k then so be it. Don't boldly make that claim in public next time, it paints you in a very bad light

People come to make deposits for cars I sell regularly and I won't collect a penny from anyone else anymore once that deposit is made, in this case you were even paid in full

Some of you were mentioning amdman here, that same amdman you guys will pay millions for a car without taking delivery or receipt (other than same WhatsApp texts), if not for trust, why will you do that?

Is this how bad we've got? That one must rush and collect an item paid for before seller gets a higher bid? And this is how a sane person thinks business should be conducted? We're finished!!!!

diportivo:
screenshot meji pere ni mo ma drop

most Nigerians are ungrateful

this same gazzuzz had a car for sale....he kept if for the first bidder....even when others came and offered more,he didnt sell

he hadn't collected money from the first bidder o....but he still didnt sell at a profit to the other bidders.....rather,he told others to wait and then negotiate to buy from the first bidder after he pays for the car

INTEGRITY.......DEM NO DEY BUY AM FOR COTONOU

but some of u defending rubbish thinks the government is the reason for our backwardeness as a nation??

werey lo poju ninu yin

awon osinwin oniyan

he no issue receipt but lets assume he absconded and police got involved,u guys will stick with the no receipt talk and thereby exonerate him?

aro candidate niyin seh

nymphomaniac:
there is something called breach of contract. I’d advise you resolve things with Gazzuzz amicably. This is a very bad case for you and you know it. Don’t listen to those who are supporting you just cause they don’t like Gazzuzz. When court papers drop, they won’t support you with money to defend yourself.

#Peace

kowalsky:


Buyer has no case in any valid court of law.

dapotemi:
The moment you get FULLY PAID for a product, even if its still in your custody, the item no longer belongs to YOU.
This is a scam, an integrity issue. I still don't understand why we argue about this.

frankman365:


If you want to know why people still support the fellow, just go outside and see how yahoo boys are admired in the neighbourhood. You will know the level of moral decadence in our society.

Fraud is endemic in our society, almost everyone wants to take advantage of you. It's pathetic!

GAZZUZZ:

ValCon888:
There's something called Fair Market Value and i read the entirety of this thread only to see no one mentioned it.

Fair Market Value is the cost of a commodity when there is no pressure to buy or sell.

It's the price of a goods where no party is leveraging on the weakness of the other to make a sale.

I don't think N400K for a N700K TV is fair market value. That's almost twice the amount the TV is worth on the open market.

I would have been on Gazuzz side if he paid the 450k the seller originally wanted.

That N50k was the bone of contention and cause of this thread.

Biosilicon could have come up with so many reasons to refund Gazuzz his money but intentionally wanted Gazuzz to know he sold it to someone else .

The seller was more wrong than the buyer but both parties did not come in equity.

Consequently, there are no clean hands here.

valarinz:
Wow, just wow!!!

Took me a while to read from page 1 to 8, I have to say an average Nigerian is so criminal minded even Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King combined as president and VP can't help us in a thousand years, Chai

Or is it because many of the posters have their personal hatred for gazzuzz and won't give up any avenue to pursue a vendetta?

This is one of the clearest case of people trying desperately to convince themselves that black is actually white, all because they don't like the OP. Shame on you all.

@biosilicon, contrary to your warped belief, business is done solely on trust, it's the very bedrock in which a good business foundation is laid. If you were willing to sacrifice your "business trust" for ₦50k then so be it. Don't boldly make that claim in public next time, it paints you in a very bad light

People come to make deposits for cars I sell regularly and I won't collect a penny from anyone else anymore once that deposit is made, in this case you were even paid in full

Some of you were mentioning amdman here, that same amdman you guys will pay millions for a car without taking delivery or receipt (other than same WhatsApp texts), if not for trust, why will you do that?

Is this how bad we've got? That one must rush and collect an item paid for before seller gets a higher bid? And this is how a sane person thinks business should be conducted? We're finished!!!!

BigCowHornn:



Tryst...


In an ideal world all you have said but this life is far from ideal.

Profit is the end game for every business. The OP wasn't defrauded but was simply outsmarted.

If there is a crime here it's the op commuting it.... false accusation

ValCon888:
There's something called Fair Market Value and i read the entirety of this thread only to see no one mentioned it.

Fair Market Value is the cost of a commodity when there is no pressure to buy or sell.

It's the price of a goods where no party is leveraging on the weakness of the other to make a sale.

I don't think N400K for a N700K TV is fair market value. That's almost twice the amount the TV is worth on the open market.

I would have been on Gazuzz side if he paid the 450k the seller originally wanted.

That N50k was the bone of contention and cause of this thread.

Biosilicon could have come up with so many reasons to refund Gazuzz his money but intentionally wanted Gazuzz to know he sold it to someone else .

The seller was more wrong than the buyer but both parties did not come in equity.

Consequently, there are no clean hands here.

valarinz:


If this is what you deem "smartness", then you're a representation of all that's wrong with the average black man.

I'll do well to note your moniker down and never have anything to do with you even in 10yrs time, no matter what you're offering.

Thanks

BigCowHornn:



You just sound like all those white resist bastards that made me leave the US for good. So the black man has a monopoly on Crime?

Keep deciving yourself

When you make half payment for stuff don't go and carry it and complete payment sharply. Stay in your house and try to resell it online

If you had any sense at all you never do business with the op lest he tag you a scammer over rubbish



Nonsense

valarinz:


Are you usually this incoherent, or my comment really got to you? Making you type so incoherent and insulting

Sorry you had to leave the US the way you did, clearly you're still bitter and angry about it, contrary to your posturing.

Look inwards, if you think that behaviour is "smartness", then it might help explain why you couldn't survive in the US. You're probably used to doing things fraudulently, perhaps it's time to try things another way. It just might work out this time 👍🏾

BigCowHornn:





Last year, Arsenal FC spent months and months negotiating a deal with a Ukraine club for a wonder kid. This month January, with a week to finalizing that deal, AFTER VERBAL AGREEMENTS... Chelsea jumped IN with a slightly higher offer and closed it.


Until full payment and collection of property with a contract signed, you are not a full owner and there is always that slight chance you could be dispossessed .


FACT!!

dannybrasky:


Did Arsenal make full payment for the player in Ukraine and the said player was sold to another club? I doubt that. Glad you said it was a verbal agreement with the ukraine deal,well gazzuzz paid his in full,so your comparison does not correlate.

Did you read where Gazzuzz stated he paid in full? Did you read where seller said he reluctantly collected the money Gazzuzz offered him? Meaning he accepted/ received Gazzuzz offer/ money.

Talking about how Gazzuzz didn't pay in full,you have your evidence in full below...

BigCowHornn:



Let me break it down.



FACT!!

dannybrasky:


Did Arsenal make full payment for the player in Ukraine and the said player was sold to another club? I doubt that. Glad you said it was a verbal agreement with the ukraine deal,well gazzuzz paid his in full,so your comparison does not correlate.

Did you read where Gazzuzz stated he paid in full? Did you read where seller said he reluctantly collected the money Gazzuzz offered him? Meaning he accepted/ received Gazzuzz offer/ money.

Talking about how Gazzuzz didn't pay in full,you have your evidence in full below...

BigCowHornn:



Gazzuzz full is 400k but the sellers full is 450k. And the deal was left hanging with item unnpicked.


Look I said even if there was a case here it's merely a breach of contract . It's not a criminal matter

The criminal matter here is seller defamation by Gazzuzz. If I was seller I will have Gazzuzz arrested and charged to a CRIMINAL court


If the 2 go to a police station one one will come out and it's not Gazzuzz


@biosilicon I urge you to make legal enquires and bring out 50k to track Gazzuzz down and persecute him
He'll be made to compensate you.

valarinz:


You've finally calmed down and typed something devoid of insults, rage and unnecessary name calling, so we can proceed.

I'll try to respond the best way I can to each of your bullet points

1. If there was a verbal agreement and nothing more, money wouldn't have exchanged hands. I put it to you that it was more than a verbal agreement

2. What is termed fraudulent here is the reselling of someone's property without their consent, best he would have done is charge him for storage. Though it seemed the delivery delay was still not the buyers fault

3. The vast profits the buyer makes should not be a problem to you or anyone, that's his business. I don't see how you should have a problem with that, he's not stopping you from selling online and making your own vast profits

4. No, he didn't pay ₦50k short from the evidence we've been presented. The seller (begrudgingly or not) accepted the ₦400k that was offered and deal was sealed. The only other discussion we saw afterwards was about delivery and not a word of payment balance anymore both from seller and buyer

5. I still don't see how that's a problem still, like I said in my earlier comments, it's obvious most of you guys are using your personal hatred of the OP to view this whole thing

6. I can't speak for the state of mind of the seller

7. I don't see how the deal is not closed yet in this scenario, the only thing we saw left there was delivery of the item

8. Can't respond on the obvious

9. I think you should find a way to deal with your personal insecurities with gazzuzz


It's so sad you're applying omonile MO to all you do in life now, you should consider the alternative because that model is outright fraudulent

Verbal agreement with Arsenal is not equal to a sale, a penny didn't exchange hands, in this case, payment has been made and delivery was all that's being discussed

Full payment is enough to grant you ownership of a property, unless you're a fraudulent seller. You could charge the buyer for storage if he doesn't pick up on time or you could insert the clause before selling to inform buyer that he must pick up within a timeframe or get a refund.

I'm not here to judge anyone's character, I'm here to discuss solely on the transaction. If you don't like gazzuzz, that's between you and him but don't let that becloud your judgement in this case 🤝🏾

dannybrasky:


1) Seller provided an account to the buyer after verbal agreement.
2) seller received money into the account he provided the buyer.
3) seller didn't argue,protest or request for extra 50k after receiving 400k from buyer.
4) There were talks between the two parties on when and how to pick up/ deliver the TV after seller received the 400k.

This was how the event played out,yes or no?

BigCowHornn:




I don't know Gazzuzz or the other guy nor have I done business on this forum ever

I was reading through crime when I saw his thread claiming to have been scammed. I read through and released the claim to be false


I repeat breach of agreement which has happened here is a matter for civil society

But false accusation is criminal... a jail able offense

valarinz:


The place I bolded is the root of your case, so I included a link and a screenshot with a highlight to address that.

That's in case you keep pretending not to see it

https://www.nairaland.com/7484612/brand-new-65-inch-samsung#119362691

Now, kindly remind me which accusation is false again? That he sold someone's property without their consent?