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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 11:59am On Oct 07, 2014
Wild goose chase, nothing can be compared to those in the medical field. If we are to follow the excuses listed by the op then even plumbers, electricians and all sort of artisans should be given special treatment.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Richie0974: 12:01pm On Oct 07, 2014
ayanbaba2:
Saving lifes rules... Medcine rules.
#irepteamsavinglife.
So really.. Tell me how many lives have u saved

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:01pm On Oct 07, 2014
OP, calm down. Forget the initial gratification these docs get during NYSC. I guess its a compensation for spending 7-8years in school.

I tell you, within a year in any of the IOC's or even some manufacturing companies with great renumeration schemes, your doc pals will wish they studied engineering, especially as it concerns Nigeria.

Just focus on developing/arming yourself with relevant technical skills and dude, you are on your way.

Cheers.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 07, 2014
drobadebayo:
The gap will always be there as long as a doctor works in a hospital and an engineer teaches physics during youth corps.Am sure it's a whole different story if the engineer works in an automobile company for instance.
Only lazy engineers whine and mk noise about doctors earnings as you can quadruple a doctors earnings without sleeping your life out in an hospital.Hv you seen docs on forbes?Am sure you ll find tons of enterpren/engineers.Lots of people are just too mentally lazy to carve out a niche for themselves.
#proudlyadoctor

Hello Sir!! I'm sure u said all this out of funny emotions(and words of this nature is not expected from a Doc of ur status as u claim to be) thinking u or ur profession is being beefed, No! No!! No!!! Why will anyone do that its just an avenue where d general public get sensitized alongside the govt that things should be done the right way by letting all professionals be in their respective fields during NYSC.... Simple!!! That's the point being made here.
Laziness!! Is simply a state of mind which could manifest irrespective of ur discipline and mind u no lazy man can make a living in the Nigeria of today. And if they still exist too bad very soon u see them on the street doing CORPORATE BEGGING

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by daveemuobo(m): 12:02pm On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:
The question is:
how much technological or engineering output does a corper engineer produce? nothing.
How much health delivery does a corp doctor offer: enormous.
So, op, how can you reap where u did not sow?
you want to be paid 100k for teaching ss1 students physics and still follow them on holidays, weekend day offs, midterm break etc.
There is no holiday for the corp doctor, in fact corp doctors are underpaid! They function as full blown doctors .



omicron:
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It is NOT unfair that your corper doctor colleagues or other corper healthworkers earn 60 -100k or so. What IS probably unfair is that YOU earn 5k or so and do not get to practice your profession.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nwachiizu(m): 12:03pm On Oct 07, 2014
After NYSC Engineers are better paid than medical doctors.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Tunby(m): 12:03pm On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:
The question is:
how much technological or engineering output does a corper engineer produce? nothing.
How much health delivery does a corp doctor offer: enormous.
So, op, how can you reap where u did not sow?
you want to be paid 100k for teaching ss1 students physics and still follow them on holidays, weekend day offs, midterm break etc.
There is no holiday for the corp doctor, in fact corp doctors are underpaid! They function as full blown doctors .
Well.. That may be true too.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Henrypraise: 12:04pm On Oct 07, 2014
All des kind talk nai de annoy me o, doc n engineers de copmpete, hu library n info sci student or business admin student or even education student wan follow compete?

Doc n engineers, abeg make una park well b4 we go protest make everybody get equal chance same tin wen dem de giv eductaion student of college of edu nai dem go de giv doc n engineers
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by peteofi(m): 12:04pm On Oct 07, 2014
It is sad, as an engineer, I feel your pains brother. And I have asked myself the same question over and over. The truth is this, because most of this firms can't pay an engineers full fee, the go for quacks that just learnt the job in 6 months. Another thing is that you can acquire this technical knowledge; just enough to get you by. But let me assure you that COREN and NSE are fighting this injustice to engineers. One day, we will prevail. We want our own special treatment; like doctors, lawyers we are professions also. Besides, WE BUILD THIS NATION. Without us, the lawyers won't feed, the doctors will have nothing. So we deserve that RESPECT.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by lawrenceunaa: 12:04pm On Oct 07, 2014
ayanbaba2:
Saving lifes rules... Medcine rules.
#irepteamsavinglife.
can u use ur bare hands to save lives

those machines/equipments used by doctors weren't they produced by

engineers

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:06pm On Oct 07, 2014
Three7Ty9:
OP, calm down. Forget the initial gratification these docs get during NYSC. I guess its a compensation for spending 7-8years in school.

I tell you, within a year in any of the IOC's or even some manufacturing companies with great renumeration schemes, your doc pals will wish they studied engineering, especially as it concerns Nigeria.

Just focus on developing/arming yourself with relevant technical skills and dude, you are on your way.

Cheers.

Thanks Dude, wish you too great success in your pursuit and may God Bless all our hardwork!!!

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:10pm On Oct 07, 2014
lawrenceunaa:
can u use ur bare hands to save lives

those machines/equipments used by doctors weren't they produced by

engineers

No offense bro try address issues like a gentle man not like kids.... He has d right to his own opinion!!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by collarfreak(m): 12:10pm On Oct 07, 2014
Doctors buried there mistakes while Engineers are being buried by their mistakes. The way medical students were treated compared with Engineering students is injustice n to b precise NYSC camping..
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by dabossman(m): 12:11pm On Oct 07, 2014
Yet another thread for people battling with inferiority complex. Yes, superiority complex is actually a form of inferiority complex.

What exactly are we supposed to be respecting here? Your certificate or your accomplishments? The fatter paycheck or the one who has used his profession to make positive change?

I would gladly respect a rural farmer who has made a discovery that has improved the way we do farming and even inspired scientist to expound and improve on his ordinary discovery.

I'd rather respect the doctor living like a hermit, going from one rural area to the other helping the poor to battle malaria and other diseases than the one working in some high-paying hospital treating the same malaria.

Same goes for the Engineer. No profession is entirely superior to the other. I depends on the impact you make and the lives you touch. So get of your high horses and go make a difference. Jeez!

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by kennynelcon(m): 12:11pm On Oct 07, 2014
You Earn respect. When you know you profession and practice it real good Medical docs will respect you.
I'm an engineering student and I'm not sure your view is always true
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by grandstar(m): 12:11pm On Oct 07, 2014
engineering wil remain 2nd tier as long as the country's industries work well below capacity. once power supply is constant and lending rates low, factories will boom and demand for engineers will surge. its all demand and supply!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by kittykat1(f): 12:12pm On Oct 07, 2014
I am an Engineer and have at least 8 years working experience and I don't agree with the OP.
The Medical corpers already have job experience. From clinical in university and housemanship. He can confidently run a small clinic without any help. Meanwhile the engineer is still a full blown trainee. He is offering essential services meanwhile an Engineer corper isn't.



Op rather than look for equity at NYSC level, why don't you get focused and aim higher. If u work hard and play smart, u can earn six times to ten times what an average doctor of ur level will earn after NYSC. Healthcare is sensitive and Government responsibility, while engineering wages are mainly market and industry sector driven.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by sophtaf(f): 12:13pm On Oct 07, 2014
Smh@idu1
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by dare211: 12:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
Food for thought
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by jairusben(m): 12:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
fr3do:


Would people die in all these building collapses if qualified civil engineers were used?


The body has natural immunity, antibodies, leutocytes and natural healing capabilities.

But buildings don't build themselves!
Vehicles don't manufacture themselves!

Engineers should be treated fairly! angry
how many cars have u buillt...
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by kennynelcon(m): 12:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
kittykat1:
I am an Engineer and have at least 8 years working experience and I don't agree with the OP.
The Medical corpers already have job experience. From clinical in university and housemanship. He can confidently run a small clinic without any help. Meanwhile the engineer is still a full blown trainee. He is offering essential services meanwhile an Engineer corper isn't.



Op rather than look for equity at NYSC level, why don't you get focused and aim higher. If u work hard and play smart, u can earn six times to ten times what an average doctor of ur level will earn after NYSC. Healthcare is sensitive and Government responsibility, while engineering wages are mainly market and industry sector driven.
Cool, female engineer.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by haryourdayG(m): 12:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
Farouksenior:
Op. its temporary nah. Once u hit m as an Engineer. No doc. Fit see ya rear light. Jst try makin ursef a better Engineer first.
Farouksenior. (EEE)[
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:16pm On Oct 07, 2014
ITS SIMPLE! THEY SHOULD DO ANATOMY,PHYSIOLOGY,BIOCHEMISTRY,PATHOLOGY AND PHARMACOLOGY!! Then dier respect can come

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:16pm On Oct 07, 2014
Anopheles:
So NYSC salary is your problem? You expect doctors after earning 200k as an intern to settle for 20k?
Everybody nowadays is just concerned over money even at ppa. While you're at it, create a thread on the medical rehab, medical lab, radiography,etc cos they also earn more.

Just face your own service and strive to earn more than the doctors
when you're done than to be whining over something they deserve and YES THEY DO!!!!
You talk about the radiography as if they ain't brains and doings of the BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERS Engr is a very wide profession which not even any of you guys will ever meet up with. Not even the so called Medicine.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by collarfreak(m): 12:16pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tunby:

Well.. That may be true too.
. I no gree with that...not all Engineering student are posted to schools to teach physics or wat ever...wat about those were posted to university level or companies where dere is nothing like holiday n closes by 4pm....
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Sylvarresta(m): 12:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules
Chai see beefing..... Have u tried to watch Dr Jin? Without all those equipment I can still perform surgery except if u guys have become blacksmith too
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by sexylogan(m): 12:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:
All over the world its no more "News" that these two field of career are both professional fields especially when it comes to practicing it in full scale. But its so saddened here in my country (Nigeria) the way Medical Student(Pharmacists,Nurses, Medical Lab Scientist and Doctors) are being given mouth watery treatment on NYSC service ground and the future Engineers are being treated like idiots.

Infact in Benue State where I'm serving Med Guys are paid like 60k @ppa, 30k @state level followed with 3bedroom flats of Doctors quarters(free of charge) nd 19k of allawee compared with an Engineering Student sent to primary or secondary school with 2k@ ppa and just your 19k of allawee with no accommodation even if you had a First Class(B.Eng) in school. With this sad experience I thing the Engineering Bodies in this country (NSE nd COREN) are allowing our government to cheat us big time.

Med Guys make sure life of human is sustained but Engineers make life so comfortable for humans, we are everywhere going great things all around the world...

1. Automobile industry
2. Air-Condition and Refrigeration(Plasma air-con,doing great)
3. Electronics Devices (Mobile Devices,Laptops etc)
4. ICT and Telecommunications
5. Provision of Electricity(even if its still Bad, but Med Guys can't still do d job if not trained Engineers)
6. Biotechnology (Engineering coming into Medicine)
7. Architects, Civil Engineers and Builders
8. AeroNautical Engineers (Aircraft Engineers)
9. Marine Engineers

Just to mention a few now tell me, would you say its fair after all these areas of specialisation we (the upcoming Engineers) should be badly treated?

Only 60k? I was paid almost 100k monthly when I served in Kano in 2010.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by lawrenceunaa: 12:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


No offense bro try address issues like a gentle man not like kids.... He has d right to his own opinion!!
I asked a question of which u don't have an answer to , why then quote me.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:

1. Automobile industry
2. Air-Condition and Refrigeration(Plasma air-con,doing great)
3. Electronics Devices (Mobile Devices,Laptops etc)
4. ICT and Telecommunications
5. Provision of Electricity(even if its still Bad, but Med Guys can't still do d job if not trained Engineers)
6. Biotechnology (Engineering coming into Medicine)
7. Architects, Civil Engineers and Builders
8. AeroNautical Engineers (Aircraft Engineers)
9. Marine Engineers


Bros- apart from, architect, civil engineers and builders, none of the disciplines you mention is functioning well .
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
Lacomus:
The reason is because this country is not technologically oriented , I will advice you shouldn't jealous em except you want get heart attack.
It is not limited to Nigeria only. Doctors are more respected all over the world.

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