donroxy:
The only dichotomy I experienced is :

The minister is the substantive CEO of a ministry who interract with both foreign governments on Nigeria and domestic affairs while in order to ease off the duty of the Minister, we have minister of state whose duty is predominantly on domestic affairs and rallying round states on Federal Government policy and frameworks to ensure uniformity as far as such ministry is assigned and I think He should report to the substantive minister and/or Presidency !!!

Demdem:


Produce of a rotten kunt.......what did u say again?

mysticdollar:
I guess minister e.g minister of education is used in d federal level while minister of state is used in d state level

0merta:
The creation of the posts of a "minister" and a "minister of state" is to afford representations of all the 36 states of the federation and the FCT in the federal cabinet. This wouldn't be possible if the minister of state position is non-existent as the number of ministries is not up to 36.

But I think the representative capacity should have been based on Geo-political zones and not on the number of states to eliminate duplicity of functions.

And for those saying the Minister of state is like a deputy Governor, I think you're all wrong. The Minister of state is independent of the "real" Minister with respect to portfolio assignments. The Minister of state functions as an intermediary between the federal government and the respective state ministries. For example, if the commissioner of education in Osun state wants to liaise with the Federal ministry of education in Abuja, he does that via the minister of state for education.

Conclusively, I think the position of the "Minister of state" was intrinsically created to make the "chopping of money" go round!

Awon Ole jati jati!

Gbogbo waa ni ole sha.

donroxy:
when Yar'adua became seriously ill there was no President in Nigeria till David Mark and National assembly introduced doctrine of necessity which made GEJ acting president ....... Does that imply we don't need president in Nigeria in the first place ?

Immediately GEJ became acting president ,definitely the position of VP became vacant does that mean , we do not need VP in the first place ?

Later on Sambo filled the spot ....

I don't even think you know the responsibility of a Minister .... ....

Your logic doesn't hold water !

Pennywise:


Sometimes we try too hard to find solutions to problems that do not exist or we go rigmaroling/sommersaulting looking for answers that stare at us in the face.

Minister of state is a creation of the Obj Goverment to deputize for a substantive minister. The real essence is for political jobs to go round. It was an expedient decision of Obj to spread the goodies among supporters and loyalists not minding that state resources can ill-afford it. If GEJ had any leadership spirit in him, he would have since abolished that position. I suppose we all have to wait for Buhari.

emmykk:
Minister of state is a minister that is assisting the main Minister in carrying out the duties of a particular ministry.is not neccessary because it is a room to loot or appease politicians.

Imagine one minister undertaking all the duties of the 36 states functions in let say agriculture.he will not have time for his or herself or some work will suffer.

rocgirl:
Absolutely nothing! Just mere role duplication

emmykk:
Minister of state is a minister that is assisting the main Minister in carrying out the duties of a particular ministry.is not neccessary because it is a room to loot or appease politicians.

Imagine one minister undertaking all the duties of the 36 states functions in let say agriculture.he will not have time for his or herself or some work will suffer.

0merta:
The creation of the posts of a "minister" and a "minister of state" is to afford representations of all the 36 states of the federation and the FCT in the federal cabinet. This wouldn't be possible if the minister of state position is non-existent as the number of ministries is not up to 36.

But I think the representative capacity should have been based on Geo-political zones and not on the number of states to eliminate duplicity of functions.

And for those saying the Minister of state is like a deputy Governor, I think you're all wrong. The Minister of state is independent of the "real" Minister with respect to portfolio assignments. The Minister of state functions as an intermediary between the federal government and the respective state ministries. For example, if the commissioner of education in Osun state wants to liaise with the Federal ministry of education in Abuja, he does that via the minister of state for education.

Conclusively, I think the position of the "Minister of state" was intrinsically created to make the "chopping of money" go round!

Awon Ole jati jati!

Gbogbo waa ni ole sha.

.........nice!!! But we do have minister of defence and
 minister of state for defence as well at the federal level........but not @ the state level!!! There s notin like commissioner of defence!!! So I think it could reperesent the real minister and
 its deputy as people ave said

0merta:
The creation of the posts of a "minister" and a "minister of state" is to afford representations of all the 36 states of the federation and the FCT in the federal cabinet. This wouldn't be possible if the minister of state position is non-existent as the number of ministries is not up to 36.

But I think the representative capacity should have been based on Geo-political zones and not on the number of states to eliminate duplicity of functions.

And for those saying the Minister of state is like a deputy Governor, I think you're all wrong. The Minister of state is independent of the "real" Minister with respect to portfolio assignments. The Minister of state functions as an intermediary between the federal government and the respective state ministries. For example, if the commissioner of education in Osun state wants to liaise with the Federal ministry of education in Abuja, he does that via the minister of state for education.

Conclusively, I think the position of the "Minister of state" was intrinsically created to make the "chopping of money" go round!

Awon Ole jati jati!

Gbogbo waa ni ole sha.

Tabtab:
.........nice!!! But we do have minister of defence and
minister of state for defence as well at the federal level........but not @ the state level!!! There s notin like commissioner of defence!!! So I think it could reperesent the real minister and
its deputy as people ave said.

fairheven:

Do you know how many aids those ministers have..if you do you won't say wat just said

jcflex:


Pls if i may ask, what is nw the duties of PS and dir in ministry. if minister of is for domestic issue, while minister for is mostly international,
then i think we should have two president as well, president for and president of.

all dis are jst bullshit

donroxy:
Some Nigerians and problems with issues !

The Op asked a good question regarding difference Minister of the federation and Minister of state and we provided answers regarding established difference between both !!

It is not as if both are doing same job so wetin be all this Obasanjo this , obasanjo that ..... If you don't know the difference just say so and zoom-out ! .....

The op never asked you for Obasanjo,GEJ and /or Buhari ... !!

Yungwizzzy:


I have two answers

1. The minister is the oga and the minister of state is the vice/deputy

2. The latter is not necessary since the former is not even functional

so the difference is that they all wasting tax payers money!!

Bimpe29:
Firstly, it is not so in all the Ministries. Secondly, it is so to; ensure efficiency & effectiveness in the public sector, to promotes equal representation of States in Federal Executive Council. In a nutshell, it is just like Assistant & Deputy syndrome. It is mainly found in big Ministries such as; Foreign Affairs, Education, Finance, Agric, FCT, Defence etc.

donroxy:
The only dichotomy I experienced is :

The minister is the substantive CEO of a ministry who interract with both foreign governments on Nigeria and domestic affairs while in order to ease off the duty of the Minister, we have minister of state whose duty is predominantly on domestic affairs and rallying round states on Federal Government policy and frameworks to ensure uniformity as far as such ministry is assigned and I think He should report to the substantive minister and/or Presidency !!!

0merta:


The Permanent secretaries are the real, executive heads of their respective ministries while the Ministers and ministers of state are ceremonial heads.

The Permanent secretaries climb up the rungs of the civil service and are therefore civil servants while the Ministers and Ministers of states are political appointees that could be booted out anytime the President thinks he/she has fuccked up.

Except in few cases, the ministers aren't professionals per se with respect to the ministries they oversee, while the Permanent secretaries in all cases must be specialists and professionals with regards to the ministries they head. That's the reason you see someone like Senator Musiliu Obanikoro that never attempted to write NDA exams being appointed minister of state for defence.