carefreewannabe:


Genius explain how women have been allowed to do whatever they want in the West since the 1840s?

Already did doofus!

So you admit that you edited my post and added a bit to it that I never typed? Buahahahaha...

Carefreewannabe I wasn't lying when I said you needed help with your psychological health, this is becoming too much.
Do you want to go completely crazy before you attend to yourself?

Lmao....making up a line I never typed and posting in my presence - like what were you thinking?

You fast losing it skank.

coogar:


babygirl, put your foot down & tell your parents and the extended family you are not having it. if the extended family wants yams & underwear, your parents should sort them - it's got nothing to do with your suitor. he's marrying you, not the extended family that probably didn't contribute one penny to your education or child development.

I still insist it's not that easy

coogar:

you need to see the list in some eastern states. laptops, blackberry & apple phones prominently feature on some lists - and its expected to be paid by the groom to show he's capable.

The bolded is very funny. We don't give such lists from where I come from. We also don't have Umuada or anything like that. Bride price is also returned to the groom.

coogar:

why are the fraudulent naija feminists not doing anything to stop this? you will even find out that village women(umuadas) are more vociferous when it comes to that list. so when a hubby acts like he owns his wife, i think he's justified. if i pay premium to buy a car, i can use it as i please. domestic violence will reduce in nigeria if the tradition of bride price is abolished completely.

Most Nigerian men seems to hate feminism. Why do you hate feminists? I absolutely agree that domestic violence will reduce in Nigeria if bride price was abolished but I also don't think it is justifed to be violent towards your wife because you paid her bride price.

crackhaus:

[s]What horsesh1t is this?
State a law written in the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria that discriminates against women, and you're talking about something being legal by omission.
1. Is ra.pe legal - marital or otherwise?
2. Again, is ra.pe legal - marital or otherwise? Will a violent wife-beater be charged to a law court and go scot-free?
3. Lmao, this is what you typed first:
Polygyny is legal in Nigeria, then on the next line you typed this:
Polygyny is prohibited in civil marriages…
You're confused, so I guess that answers that.
As for the customary/Islamic laws, are they part of the constitution of the Federal Republic or is this not what I asked?
And FYI lots of women willingly go into polygamous marriages, hence I don't see how this is a discrimination - I guess you have your work cut out for you in trying to sensitize women about the discriminatory nature of polygny, good luck with that.
4. Again with the customary laws, absolutely nothing to do with the sovereign constitution.
However, if women inheriting property means so much to you, what are you doing to make it normal occurrence?[/s]

You sound so daft, it's almost painful to read.

Mar1tal r*ape is not illegal in Nigeria. Is it? Hence, legal by omission.

Let me try to dumb this down for you. If a husband, r*apes his wife. The judicial system is handicapped because it is not recognized as a crime. It would be dismissed because no offence has been committed. In your country, the concept of 'marital r*ape' is impossible/foreign.

FML!

So you are dismissing customary laws that are admissible in the court of law?? Mr genius, you are beginning to look crazy in an attempt to dismiss gender discrimination. IF you need me to to dumb this down so u can understand, let me know.

Section 13 of the Supreme Court Ordinance 1900
provides,
“Nothing in this proclamation shall deprive the supreme court of right to observe and
enforce the observance, or shall deprive any person of the benefit of any law or custom
existing in the protectorate such law and custom not being repugnant to natural justice
equity and good conscience”

Section 14 (1) the Evidence Act39 provides;
“A custom may be adopted as part of the law governing a particular
set of circumstances if it can be noticed judicially or can be proved
to exist by evidence. The Burden of proving a custom shall lie upon
the person alleging its existence”

Section 14 (2) of Evidence Act41 provides as follows:-
“A custom may be judicially noticed by the court if it has
been acted upon by a court of superior or co-ordinate
jurisdiction in the same area to the extent which justifies
the court asked to apply it in assuming that the persons
or the class of persons concerned in that area look upon
the same as binding in relation to those under consideration”

crackhaus:

Already did doofus!

So you admit that you edited my post and added a bit to it that I never typed? Buahahahaha...

Carefreewannabe I wasn't lying when I said you needed help with your psychological health, this is becoming too much.
Do you want to go completely crazy before you attend to yourself?

Lmao....making up a line I never typed and posting in my presence - like what were you thinking?

You fast losing it skank.

OOOOOOooooo ooooooo ooooooooooooo, you are losing it, it is obvious. So now people edit your posts, right?

Are you finally ashamed of the crap you post here?

crackhaus:

I supported customary laws that excludes girls from inheritance some weeks ago? Buahahahaha....this skank will just keep making stuff up.

Are you finally accepting that your entire existence on NL is to stalk me?

Now you bipolar manic-depressive lass, go dig up the post where I made that assertion - I promise to give you a tasty little dog bone for your effort if such a post exists.

Will you also claim that I edited this post?

As for inheritance laws, there's a reason why women don't seem favoured. It is simply because they go on to marry into another family and acquire by marriage the right to the husband's property.
Men don't marry into another family, they are the ones who carry on their father's name and so it's just common sense that inheritance law favours them.

I don't see what a girl needs her father's property for when she still wants to lay claim to her husband's own, is it not greed?

https://www.nairaland.com/1928540/quotes-famous-feminist-speakers/4#26855789



So you didn't say that customary laws that exclude the female child from inheritance are fair?





Well, the Supreme Court disagrees with you and your daughters and granddaughters won't thank you for this. They will thank feminists like me.

BananaBender:


NOW, CAI*, Pan Af***an Solidarity, ARA-W
If you weren't such a fool, you would see that I already answered your question.

Some orgs do not do anything about bride price because it is not practiced in their society. Other organizations that are tailored to Africans have not addressed the bride price. Child marriage, Sexual harassment, Domestic Violence, Female child education, Marital r*Ape takes precedence.

I told you what we achieved in Lagos and Ekiti state in 2007/2011.

You are an African, what are YOU doing about the daylight-extortion of potential sons-in-law in the guise of marriage?

Prove to me that you ain't a pseudo-feminist.

coogar:


item number 13 is epic!!!

200 bathroom slippers for all the villagers? and this same useless girls would come on NL to start claiming feminism when their neighbours in the village are church-rat poor to even afford bathroom slippers.



i don't have a problem with the culture cos i know the bride is not my equal. my in-laws can charge N50m if they so please......let the men who have a problem with paying the bride price fight their cause!

however, a woman who allowed herself to be bought like a piece of furniture has no right to claim gender equality. she was formally educated like the man that was asked to pay for her.....she probably makes as much money as the man paying her brideprice so i don't see anything else but hypocrisy here.

I sincerely hope you know that groom price is paid in India, not only is it that it is paid, but also that parents abort (this is not about me saying just anything, the male to female ratio in some parts of India are not at par, women are being stolen and sold to men, who inturn share their property with their brother, friend e.t.c) their female chiildren because they think (very true) that females are docile, less productive, expensive to manage and most expectially, will necessitate the payment of huge groom price.
Dear coogar, why is it that the groom price is seen as profit, while the bride price is seen as purchase? As far as I'm concerned, it is not necessary for a man to pay a bride price, before he owns a woman, all he needs is wisdom, a virtue women lack. I'm proud to be a man. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I were born a woman.

crackhaus:

You are an African, what are YOU doing about the daylight-extortion of potential sons-in-law in the guise of marriage?

Prove to me that you ain't a pseudo-feminist.

Nobody has to prove anything to a man with your brain, it is too damaged to comprehend complex issues.

Anger and aggression are not emotions.

carefreewannabe:


OOOOOOooooo ooooooo ooooooooooooo, you are losing it, it is obvious. So now people edit your posts, right?

Are you finally ashamed of the crap you post here?

I typed that women have been allowed to do what they want in Africa since the 1890s?

Lmao.....you're definitely insane. Why did you add that bit?

You're a manic-depressive bipolar and sex-starved skank with a sugar-solution for brains.

crackhaus:

You are an African, what are YOU doing about the daylight-extortion of potential sons-in-law in the guise of marriage?

Prove to me that you ain't a pseudo-feminist.

"Prove to me" Bwhahahahahahahahaha, this nigga needs help

I told you earlier and you said I shouldn't give you my autobiography, now u ask?

By sponsoring the education of young female children(elementary, and high school) from low-income families. I believe education is the first step to eradicating most of these "barbaric" beliefs.

babygirlfl:

I still insist it's not that easy

i agree it's not that easy...
meanwhile, my extended family are also traditional and they believe a man must have 5 wives(at least). if it's not easy for you to convince your extended family to take out the brideprice, be rest assured it won't be easy for me to refuse multiple wives.

The bolded is very funny. We don't give such lists from where I come from. We also don't have Umuada or anything like that. Bride price is also returned to the groom.

we are speaking for the men who are marrying from the villages where a long list is the norm. umuadas are the most vocal when it comes to this list. i heard they have so much power to the extent that they can cancel the whole ceremony if they are not satisfied.

Most Nigerian men seems to hate feminism. Why do you hate feminists? I absolutely agree that domestic violence will reduce in Nigeria if bride price was abolished but I also don't think it is justifed to be violent towards your wife because you paid her bride price.

we don't hate feminism - we hate the hypocrisy attached to it. caucasian males don't pay brideprice so if the bride demands equality then by all means she has a right to it.

nigerian women love the idea of the bride price, so why should they demand the equality the caucasian female is enjoying. that's eating one's cake & still wanting to keep some in their bra.

no type of violence is justified whether there's bride price issue or not ---- but i think a man that was made to pay premium for his bride has the right to decide how he wants his wife to be. the decision to work or not, frequency of sėx, how many kids to have, where to stay, where to work, what to wear, etc should be solely the husband's decision.

he's paid the price to have such luxury!

crackhaus:

I typed that women have been allowed to do what they want in Africa since the 1890s?

Lmao.....you're definitely insane. Why did you add that bit?

You're a manic-depressive bipolar and sex-starved skank with a sugar-solution for brains.

Genius you don't know what sarcasm is?

I am not surprised.

Mondi said it, you need a dictionary.

By the way, stop using German to make your points or I will again shred you to pieces.

coogar:
the 6th item on the mother's list is cracking me up. so a groom is expected to buy undies for his potential mother-in-law in nigeria?

Its simply a sign of extreme poverty

AzontoGhost:

my bro,what you heard about Ghana is totally false.
though some practise matrilineal family system,the father holds full responsibility of the children.

oh bro yu said what i heard was totally false and later said some practices matrilineal family system..
is there any different in wat i said earlier?
pls reconcile the statement and make it clear.

Misogynist2014:
Dear coogar, why is it that the groom price is seen as profit, while the bride price is seen as purchase?

groom price seen as profit to whom? have you stayed anywhere in india? we are talking about what obtains in nigeria & you are talking of india. what's the correlation?

As far as I'm concerned, it is not necessary for a man to pay a bride price, before he owns a woman, all he needs is wisdom, a virtue women lack. I'm proud to be a man. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I were born a woman. sad

what kinda wisdom is this? shotgun marriage? some of us like to do things the legal way. i have no problem at all with that tradition. men have to prove themselves worthy - the bride's family must be sure the groom can afford to take care of their daughter - however, the bride must know her position in her husband's house. he is the head while she's the deputy.

QED!!!

iamord:


100 percent False. I bear my fathers name

yu might not fall into line of category but frend who quote me said some...

carefreewannabe:


Nobody has to prove anything to a man with your brain, it is too damaged to comprehend complex issues.

Anger and aggression are not emotions.

You went on a break from NL and came back today to start quoting me, editing my posts to make a point, and make clueless misinterpretations.... Lmao.

You most definitely have been seeing me in your nightmares, I have stripped every bit of self-esteem you have left.

Here's an advice b1tch:
Find a d1ck, a huge fat d1ck - stick it in your mouth and suck on it till your tongue bleeds...and while you're at it, please choke on it.

crackhaus:

You went on a break from NL and came back today to start quoting me, editing my posts to make a point, and make clueless misinterpretations.... Lmao.

You most definitely have been seeing me in your nightmares, I have stripped every bit of self-esteem you have left.

Here's an advice b1tch:
Find a d1ck, a huge fat d1ck - stick it in your mouth and suck on it till your tongue bleeds...and while you're at it, please choke on it.

So now people are editing your posts?

This is all you can come up with when your st*upidity is revealed?

You will claim that you didn't spew all this crap?

Are you ashamed of yourself now?

coogar:


item number 13 is epic!!!

200 bathroom slippers for all the villagers? and this same useless girls would come on NL to start claiming feminism when their neighbours in the village are church-rat poor to even afford bathroom slippers.



i don't have a problem with the culture cos i know the bride is not my equal. my in-laws can charge N50m if they so please......let the men who have a problem with paying the bride price fight their cause!

however, a woman who allowed herself to be bought like a piece of furniture has no right to claim gender equality. she was formally educated like the man that was asked to pay for her.....she probably makes as much money as the man paying her brideprice so i don't see anything else but hypocrisy here.

@coogar, na you be senator Oh, this one wey N50million brideprice/list no go shake you

When I grow up sir, I want to be just like you.

But for now, I gats respect myself, I will not even bother "negotiating" after hearing that kind of nonsense.
Na to just enter car like robot, off phone, drive commot dat bastard village go my house go sleep.
No time for bullsh1t

BananaBender:


"Prove to me" Bwhahahahahahahahaha, this nigga needs help

I told you earlier and you said I shouldn't give you my autobiography, now u ask?

By sponsoring the education of young female children(elementary, and high school) from low-income families. I believe education is the first step to eradicating most of these "barbaric" beliefs.

This is your proof? Lmao...

You're a feminist and you don't belong to any feminists movement? Can't you see you're a joke?

I ask again, don't dodge - what are you doing to put an end to the daylight-extortion of potential sons-in-law in Nigeria?
Pseudo-feminist wishing she had a real d1ck..

Please make do with the 1inch contraption the doctors gave to you in your gender-reassignment surgery

carefreewannabe:


Genius you don't know what sarcasm is?

I am not surprised.

Mondi said it, you need a dictionary.

By the way, stop using German to make your points or I will again shred you to pieces.

Your next defence is that you were been sarcastic? Buahahahaha...

Do you find eating the sh1t from your azz an appetizing delight?

CFCfan:

Its simply a sign of extreme poverty

it's unimaginable.

"mama ngozi, what's your bra size & your "paiiiient" size?"

2buff:

@coogar, na you be senator Oh, this one wey N50million brideprice/list no go shake you
When I grow up sir, I want to be just like you.

you don't want to let them(in-laws) down in the village. they must have boasted about you that you would be coming with the wonga to spoil them silly. N50m? not too steep a price to get a bride these days.

But for now, I gats respect myself, I will not even bother "negotiating" after hearing that kind of nonsense. Na to just enter car like robot, off phone, drive commot dat bastard village go my house go sleep.
No time for bullsh1t

ha!
don't try such, abeg. your bride to be might commit suicide. i hope you are aware that's the biggest event in her life. you don't want to carry her casket on your conscience if she hangs herself.

crackhaus:

Your next defence is that you were been sarcastic? Buahahahaha...

Do you find eating the sh1t from your azz an appetizing delight?

Says the genius who claims that women have been allowed to do what they want in the West since 1840.

carefreewannabe:


So now people are editing your posts?

This is all you can come up with when your st*upidity is revealed?

You will claim that you didn't spew all this crap?

Are you ashamed of yourself now?

When a skank who claims to be sane has to edit my posts to include claims I never made just to seem like she's making sense - then I already know what time it is.

It's about time for your appointment with a psychologist, a psychiatrist, and a speech-therapist for your Down syndrome.

I can never be ashamed of myself on Nairaland... I love myself too darn much unlike a bipolar manic-depressive skank like you.

Have you found a c0ck to choke on yet?

All these plenty quarrel because of bride price? Hian make una take am easy o.

carefreewannabe:


Says the genius who claims that women have been allowed to do what they want in the West since 1840.

Says the clueless psych patient who called herself a post-feminist.

Post feminism:
It is the space where we can move past feminism, where feminism no longer holds appeal to women and where it can even be harmful to women. As Melissa Gira Grant writes.



Pseudo-feminists don't even know where they fit into, neither are they members of any active feminist movements.... Lmao... Jokers!

crackhaus:

When a skank who claims to be sane has to edit my posts to include claims I never made just to seem like she's making sense - then I already know what time it is.

It's about time for your appointment with a psychologist, a psychiatrist, and a speech-therapist for your Down syndrome.

I can never be ashamed of myself on Nairaland... I love myself too darn much unlike a bipolar manic-depressive skank like you.

Have you found a c0ck to choke on yet?

No need to edit your posts, they are funny enough.

Women have been allowed to do what they want in the West since the 1840s.

carefreewannabe:


No need to edit your posts, they are funny enough.

Women have been allowed to do what they want in the West since the 1840s.

Still having nightmares, are you?

Why would a sane person edit my comment and post it to my face and not expect me to notice it?
Isn't this a mental disorder?

slowpoke with a sugar-solution for a brain.

crackhaus:

Says the clueless psych patient who called herself a post-feminist.

Post feminism:
It is the space where we can move past feminism, where feminism no longer holds appeal to women and where it can even be harmful to women. As Melissa Gira Grant writes.



Pseudo-feminists don't even know where they fit into, neither are they members of any active feminist movements.... Lmao... Jokers!

Loser, you still claim that you have never supported the customary laws that discriminate against the female child and exclude her from inheritance?

coogar:


it's unimaginable.

"mama ngozi, what's your bra size & your "paiiiient" size?"



you don't want to let them(in-laws) down in the village. they must have boasted about you that you would be coming with the wonga to spoil them silly. N50m? not too steep a price to get a bride these days.



ha!
don't try such, abeg. your bride to be might commit suicide. i hope you are aware that's the biggest event in her life. you don't want to carry her casket on your conscience if she hangs herself.

Na to do home work before hand.
As I state in this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1989442/why-ibo-people-connected-village
I wouldn't get myself involved with a chick that is too in love with her village, because that is where all those silly expectations come from.
I prefer to stay away from such places as much as possible. She would have to think and reason like me concerning core opinions about the [un]importance of heavy, costly traditions to a modern pragmatic life, etc, etc.

crackhaus:

Still having nightmares, are you?

Why would a sane person edit my comment and post it to my face and not expect me to notice it?
Isn't this a mental disorder?

slowpoke with a sugar-solution for a brain.

You have not said that women in the West have been allowed to do what they want since the 1840s?

carefreewannabe:


Loser, you still claim that you have never supported the customary laws that discriminate against the female child and exclude her from inheritance?

Pathetic bipolar dumbfvck, are you still a post-feminist?