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Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by MadCow1: 8:47am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: Amnesty International were right... But we are at war.. And all is Fair in War, 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by chamboy(m): 8:47am On Nov 17, 2014 |
When Armed Robber Rob finish na Innocent People, Police dey Carry 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by omenka(m): 8:48am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:If you've been on this forum long enough, there are certain people you should just learn to ignore because the ideals of a civil, free, and just society is alien to them. 6 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Afroconnect: 8:49am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Oga,shut your mouth before you shoot urself in the foot. Amnesty international has their pay-masters,only naïve people like you believe all they say. This world is all about interests,America and the European union fund amnesty-those saudi and Arabs manipulate the organisation with their money too...Nigeria has no real friends in the committee of Nations,as it is people are friends with you as long as you satisfy some of their needs. Our "leaders" ought to know this and play the foreign relations game of asking for returns on any favour,not just dashing money,fighting force and resources to these ungrateful Nations. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by OkikiOluwa1(m): 8:53am On Nov 17, 2014 |
One of Nigeria's big problem is that the country has lots of incompetent people in the helms of leadership in different sectors......... Last Bullet Some people were in the position of leading each section of the armed forces... Will the military heads say that they don't know about all the brutalities in the north and other parts of the country? The strength meant for fighting Boko Haram is always saved for the civilians... ___________________________________________________________________ This is what I see atimes & I ll joke that on my way to Earth from Heaven, I miss road, to come to Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by eunisam: 8:54am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Whatever! |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 8:54am On Nov 17, 2014 |
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Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by herald9: 9:05am On Nov 17, 2014 |
MadCow1: You're being insensitive and unsympathetic If you're the victim Maybe you'll know all is not fair 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by emmatok(m): 9:07am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: I will advice you to stop arguing with this GEJ boys , their so call patriotism is tied to their master and not Nigeria. They hate anything called truth. They are now telling us that everybody living in the North should be giving Boko-Haram treatment, forgetting there are SE,SS SW living in the North. You will see their truth color when an innocent IGBO or IJAW man is detained in North. 7 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by mecusbosco(m): 9:10am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: Mr man! Extreme cases requires extreme measures. Collateral damage is everywhere! Some companies abroad have rejected their own staff, denied them from coming back to their place of work, just because they visted Nigeria or othere Ebola related countries. Where is human right? Please answer! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by IdomaLikita: 9:10am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Just last week, I was in one of the States of the Northeast affected by the Insurgency and witnessed the Heavyhandedness of the Army First Hand! At one Checkpoint, I saw Old Men given Corporal Punishments(eg. a frail old man was asked to carry his bicycle on his head and remain standing under the sun) for simple Traffic Violations! A Uniformed Policeman was Brutalized in my Presence and almost shot for questioning the barbarity of these Men! By God, at that Moment, if Boko Haram had offered me a Recruitment form, I would have signed it gleefully! Then I drove further and saw other Checkpoints where the Soldiers were very Nice and even shared their Lunch with the Street Hawkers that cluster around them! I noticed that Soldiers who had been on Peace-keeping missions(as evidenced by their Gear) were more Professional, Courteous and Friendly than the Local Champions whose only Combat experience is at the Firing Range in Jaji! Any Army that lacks Local Support is merely living on Borrowed time and the DHQ must as a matter of Urgency weed out the Local Champions from their Ranks! 21st Century Wars are Psychologically in Nature and if the Nigerian Military is to advance further, then it must shed its colonial image! #Amnesty International is right afterall 11 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Rhozabeth(m): 9:11am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Adetula1: Bros this is not even a civil war, this is insurgency! The problem we have is that we do not know how to gather intelligence and we don't conduct proper investigation! The police and army conduct investigation by beating confession out of their suspects! 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by MadCow1: 9:11am On Nov 17, 2014 |
herald9: Ofcourse... If I was the Victim, I would be on the streets of Abuja with a placard calling for 1billion Naira in compensation.. And if the current guys do it, I would support them.. But again I say!! THIS IS WAR... All non-combatants should have left the area.. The Nigerian Army are running scared.. They are fighting against an unidentifiable enemy. So what happens is when they enter an Area, all Men (and now Women) of combat age are arrested and filtered through. I dont blame the Nigerian army for this approach of clean sweeping an Area, my Problem with the Army is the time it takes to investigate and identify the innocent ones from the insurgents.. And like I said:: All is fair in War.. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by tolustx(m): 9:12am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus:If the army is working, you'll say their violating human rights, if they're not, you'll say their inactive and heartless; when battle is fierce and they retreat, you'll call dem cowards and when they face d enemies, whose strategies they dont fully know and they lost their lives in d process, you'll they wasted dr own lives wen they knw they aint fit now, what exactly does nigerians need. Is it victory over boko haram or a change of govt. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Firefire(m): 9:14am On Nov 17, 2014 |
gtrust: We will take Amnesty International (Nigerian Branch) seriously the day they mount serious campaign against the activities of BH!! We will take Mrs Ekwesilieze seriously the day she mounts serious campaign against BH and even advise them to seek the peoples' vote by the ballot boxes! We will take the journalistic wings of BH seriously the day they mount serious campaign against these BH and their nefarious activities!!! We will take the Deputy Governor of Borno State seriously the day he ALSO start announcing territories recaptured by the Nigerian military and give some acknowledgement to the sacrifices of our Galant Soldiers. Nigeria is our only country = my interest here!!! |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by nduchucks: 9:16am On Nov 17, 2014 |
As of last week, I would have bet my last N2million (naira don dey fall na) that this thread will never make the FP. I have to say this, since Ishilove has been, one way or the other, handling the FP and Seun himself loosening up a bit, NL may be turning the corner on being more balanced. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by julioralph(m): 9:17am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Adetula1:O yeah? What if they happen to be innocent villagers caught between the Army and BH? 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Firefire(m): 9:17am On Nov 17, 2014 |
IdomaLikita: Don't worry NA will catch you one day... Go ahead and join Boko Haram. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 9:17am On Nov 17, 2014 |
No war without collateral damage. 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by elbinmanny(m): 9:25am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:no be gist be this na...where were u and them when igbos were slaughtered during the civil war....i can understand u were not born then...but happens if u tell us about the udi massacre in 1999. karma is a biatch 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by philips70(m): 9:25am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: You waste your time in educating these Jonathan sympathizers. These ones will send their wives packing if they speak any ill against their meal ticket. All arguments and conjectures are sourced from their bottoms. Civility, decorum, compliance and integrity have been totally expunged from their dictionaries till after the 2015 elections. Make a post, ignore them when they troll and turn logic upside down. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Bawss1(m): 9:26am On Nov 17, 2014 |
mecusbosco: Who does this guy think he is telling this monkey tale to? Please provide the names of the companies that did that. @Topic The majority of people here will not appreciate the gravity of the matter because they are not the ones affected. Its far more easier to blame the entire north for the activities of BH, that way when human rights violations are reported they can be dismissed with little effort. Nigerians first have to collectively learn and advance to the stage where each individual's rights are respected before we will care. Right now we will keep playing the ostrich and somehow hope that new problems will not be created by this approach. 4 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by ZUBY77(m): 9:26am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: Have you ever seen Boko Haram written on anybody 's face? No. You catch and detain them for as long as necessary for investigation. You only criticize the army if they don't release them. Those people you call innocent could know the terrorists that live among them. It happens that way all over the world. You should have known that. Innocent people will die in the hands of army because you can't separate such things without mistakes. It's called collateral damage. Every war happens that way. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by deletrue: 9:27am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:You are rubbish individual. Tell your people with brain problem to change their attitude. Tell them to stop the killing of your hausas in the north east. Na you sabi. Na your brother dey scarter every corner of Nigeria. That one no pain abi? 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by samplegirl(f): 9:28am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus: @Horus the problem I have with people like you is that you don't have identity if not it will be interesting to invite you to a debate. No American government has been accused of human right violation but they still operate GITMO even when Obama sang he will shut it in his first tenure campaign. The gullible Nigerian will think you are actually fighting for the innocent Nigerians caught in the web but we know you are fighting for your group which is boko haram. No matter how you present it we know your intent. You are a member. The moderator in your rubbish video was sayong that the north is under developed but the idiot failed to point that northern leaders do not want them to go to school, take immunization and the rest of them, The fool did not mention the fact that this President has built more schools in the north than any other president. mtcheeewwww!!!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 9:33am On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: So out of over 20k or more UNIMAID students, one person was picked, and you think he didn't have anything whatsoever that linked him to boko haram? How come many other students have not been picked? Inasmuch as I don't condone unlawful detention and execution of innocent citizens by d military, the truth remains that there must always be innocent casualties in any fight against insurgency. Even in Iraq where US is conducting air raid against ISIS, don't you know that hundreds, if not thousands of civilians are also being killed? 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Bawss1(m): 9:33am On Nov 17, 2014 |
@Mods The word "were" should be corrected to "was". Amnesty International refers to one body not several bodies. |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 9:34am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Boko Haram are civilians, remember? the NA do treat issues with heavy handedness, nevertheless, if they do nothing, its still the APC leaders and e-touts that will scream that the Army is irrelevant and doing nothing, when they do something, you come here and shout they're been too harsh. were there no innocent civilians locked up in Guantanamo bay? Inasmuch as the Nigerian Army is guilty of the offense, who isnt? the US, EU or where? do you know the US funded ISIS initially? did Amnestly say anything about that? how about the heavy handedness in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did you follow the Israeli-Hamas conflict? what came out of it? read of the IRA conflicts? its wrong to politicize everything! what would your APC do differently? disband the Army? i know you must justify your pay, but be sane and think though before spilling the junks you are paid for. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by msmon(m): 9:38am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Why is it that anyone who carry beard is a suspected terrorist?. It's absolutely unfair, even my friend in NYSC kits was suspected at every junction and check point when we travelled from Benin to Bayelsa. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 9:38am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Firefire: You are irritably senseless and worst still you are doing it on purpose. People fight back when oppressed, that's exactly why boko haram fighters seems to never end no matter how many you kill. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by emmatok(m): 9:43am On Nov 17, 2014 |
MadCow1: Are suggesting every innocence Nigerian from the North, relocate to the south. What will you do if the insurgence relocate with them. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by MadCow1: 9:48am On Nov 17, 2014 |
emmatok: Now you get the problem.. How do we identify insurgents from the innocent?! SO its easier to relocate as a refugee to a new area than to stay in a hostile environment. If the Nigerian Army does not get you in their 'mop up' operations, the Insurgents would kill you in their raid.. There is no winning this one. SO move. If the Insurgents move with you to the new location, up and move again.. Its not the ideal situation but thats what we have to do.. Plus insurgents would find it difficult to operate in unfamiliar territories.. And they would be eaiser to spot in a new location than in their locality. The Day a Bomb drops in my neighbourhood... In less than 24hrs, I would be fr far away from there. 1 Like |
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