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Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by texazzpete(m): 3:22pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
MadCow1: Nope, you don't need to airlift tanks and APCs. Most Boko Haram assaults are backed with Hiluxes (armed with mounted machine guns) and motorcycles. Send in well armed troops with mortars, light anti-tank rockets and machine guns and you'll have the makings of a very good ambush. Of course, air support to pound ground troops. There's no indication that Boko Haram has an extensive anti-aircraft arsenal, if any. Setting up rapid response squads has the advantage of moving in elite troops to combat areas quickly, instead of relying on the regular troops that are more likely to panic and run away. MadCow1: No. Convoys stream into and from towns under attack. No consistent MO to intercept and destroy such columns. Boko Haram's APCs and gun-equipped hiluxes move through motorable roads. We are desperately short of attack helicopters, which is a serious travesty. According to Wikipedia, we only have 8 Mi-35 Hind attack helicopters! (seems we placed an order just 2 months ago for some new ones). MadCow1: Many of these communities actively assist the Army. Of course, many are reluctant to rat out BH, because they know the Army will not protect them, and they know that many Nigerians on Nairaland will laugh when Boko Haram kills them in reprisal MadCow1: You're a different breed from many of the other people arguing here. at least you accept there is a problem. You see how many here do not? We need to accept there's a problem so we work to change it, so it becomes something we can legislate to fix. It's not just about Boko Haram war. Why the heck should a soldier call the man whose tax pays his salaries a 'bloody civilian'? Why is it 'normal' for a poorly educated soldier to have the power/right to horsewhip a Nigerian Citizen? We can and should try to fix this. 4 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by endy231: 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
The soldiers Boko haram are cutting thier throat are children of no body. hide ur head in the sand. Can eventualities be avoided in this type of war. phephaps if you have lost a friend who is a soldier fighting in northeast, you would understand how things are run their. when u see illegal killings like that its usually not a top down order, but retaliations of foot soldiers. Didnt you watch the last bokoharam vid, didnt you see the way locals (children) where happy and jumping as boko's where displaying with the armoured tanks captured from the Nigerian soldiers. Its normal during gurriella war. May God end this boko haram madness. nduchucks: 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by ASL33: 3:26pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:amnesty should talk for those in Gitmo Bay since 10 years ago. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Horus(m): 3:30pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
samplegirl: So for you if someone is here is to advocate on behalf of victims of human rights violations you immediately believe that this person is a Boko Haram sympathizer?. Your way of thinking is narrow-minded.. The video that you call "rubbish video" was created by the British Channel 4 Dispatches Program. Does this mean for you that the journalists working for the British Channel 4 Television are Boko Haram sympathizers?. In the video the British journalists are clearly exposing the truth about the hidden war that is been waged in Nigeria against Nigerians by Boko Haram in connivance with Nigerian State Agents. So how can you comment on a video that you didnt even watch? 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by nduchucks: 3:50pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
endy231: You are correct in saying that casaulties are inevitable in wars. But even wars are governed by international laws where violators are imprisoned and punished - these laws are in place so that we will not all become savages. Boko haram criminals should obviously be punished, but I personally do not want any government cutting the throat of innocent citizens in my name. That will never be acceptable to me, decent human beings, and the international community at large. May the souls of all our citizens, particularly those of the galant soldiers killed during this crisis, RIP. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by samplegirl(f): 4:03pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus: Thank you open-minded saint. The video is meant to teach me how boko haram in connivance with Nigerian agents wage hidden war against innocent Nigerian children, hmmm...so interesting. But that your angel did not tell you that his country primarily created the rot in Nigeria by sowing seed of discord and distrust among the tribal men. He has not profiled what M16 do to keep Britain safe. How could a right thinking man come and be telling me that my country's government connived with terrorist to wage war against innocent kids and the nonsense is coming from no other place than Britain. People from francophone countries easily go to France but Anglophone to Britain nko? I watched few seconds of it and realised it is not worth watching. They will show us certain footage to drive home what they need to drive home and edit certain scenes. Show me where to watch a documentary by a British tv house highlighting a developmental project in Nigeria instead they will show you epidemic scourge and other negative aspect. But will be quick to condemn Nigeria for condemning homosexuality. Show me British company in Nigeria and what they produce. Do you know that Kenyan, Jeff Koinange? If you know the real reason why he left CNN it is then you will know the practices behind the curtain when it comes to western media approach to Africa especially Nigeria. They should tell it to the birds. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by endy231: 4:12pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
No body knows my country better than me. |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by AJOT99(m): 4:25pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
I can't agree more |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by isalegan2: 4:48pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
double post |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by isalegan2: 4:49pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
nduchucks: Thank you. I also posted a thread about this a year and a half ago. https://www.nairaland.com/1273986/massacre-nigeria-spurs-outcry-over It is indescribably saddening that fellow Nigerians are so blinded by tribal hate and religious bigotry that they are unwilling to even consider the possibility that these people in the North may not all be murderers out to slit their throats to spread Islam. They never doubt that the propaganda that is being fed them is too fantastic and incredible to be believed by a 10-year old with a functioning brain. Have you ever found a group answering to the name "Boko Haram"? 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Horus(m): 4:54pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
samplegirl: Why do you refuse to answer my previous question? Are the British Channel 4 Television journalists Boko Haram sympathizers?. Yes or No?. Your problem is that you already have a preconceived opinion about me and the video. If you refuse to watch the 50 minutes video then just forget about the video. There is no need to waste your time to comment about a video that you dont know nothing about and there is no need to call me a "terrorist" just because I post a video about victims of human rights violations. People who are killed by Boko Haram are also victims of human rights violations. You should not be too judgemental or make too hasty conclusion about someone who post on the forum. If you have preconceived opinions about me or any other posters you will not allow a fruitful debate to happen. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by zeemore: 5:27pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: Listen, you don't have to explain anything to anybody. As you can see, most people here are so myopic and narrow-minded to even understand the subject matter. Anyways, I don't blame them. These things haven't happened to anyone close to them, that's why they can say what they say. Imagine someone even saying 'collateral damage'. So an innocent life is sacrificed extra-judiciously or someone detained innocently without trial and you'd term it collateral damage? Gosh, how insensitive can one be?? Why don't you switch positions and sacrifice your own life for the sake of collateral damage? I am not from the northern part of Nigeria and I definitely do not support terrorism. But Nigeria army carry out severe atrocities that are even worse than terrorism itself. It is my sincere prayer that everyone here lambasting AI doesn't experience any of this brutality. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by samplegirl(f): 5:30pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus: In the video the British journalists are clearly exposing the truth about the hidden war that is been waged in Nigeria against Nigerians by Boko Haram in connivance with Nigerian State Agents. Britain is more sympathetic to Nigerian innocent children than Nigeria!!!!! 4 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Chigold101(m): 5:47pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:innocent Nigerian s die everyday from boko haram attack and it doesn't mean anything to amnesthieves international 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by texazzpete(m): 5:57pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
ASL33: Actually, Amnesty International speaks up for those folks too. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by VolvoS60(m): 6:05pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Mogidi, where art thou? I had given up on this thread when that Mogidi fellow and his band of 'patriots' came in and immediately started shooting. The trend (on any thread where anyone so much as questions the military's tactics in this war) is for these 'patriots' to brand any critic of the army's methods as saboteurs. Unfortunately, these 'patriots' have strong support in the large mass of people on these boards - people who have an inexplicable hatred of any kind of critical or analytical reasoning. I was more than surprised when several stalwarts on this thread handed Mogidi's gluteus maximus back to him, chunk by chunk, sinew by sinew, tendon by tendon. And they did it calmly and without any drama - just a reasoned, methodical point by point rebuttal of his outlandish, illogical claims. All very civilized and unemotional. There is hope after all... 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
VolvoS60: You can thank the OP for that. He has infinite patience. I called the guy a rétard and told him to shut up, but it got hidden. |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete:A very sensible post. So, if our eastern brothers do not see anything wrong with the gross abuse of human rights being perpetuated by the military in the north in spite of of boko haram carnage, then why should they be crying for compensation for the brutality of the army during the civil war. |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Tinyemeka(m): 7:34pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Is Guatanamo Bay still in existence? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Jimmyo3(m): 7:52pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Nigerian forces will only treat u like an animal when u behave like an animal... 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by holatin(m): 8:16pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
no wonder Fela anikulapo kuti is against them. listen to teacher no teach me nonsense by fela 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Nobody: 8:52pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
MadCow1: Really? You will just uproot yourself and all your belongings in 24 hours? You thinks its easy like that? If u were single and in some dead end job I would understand your casual - in 24 hours I would be far away from there. I can just see you packing all your belongings into how many trucks in the space of 24 hours all. The while fending off looters and struggling with others packing out at the same time. If you're in the neighbour hood when the bomb drops, its already too late. Those of us still here don't have that many options available. And its the same for those trapped in the north. 3 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by xcolanto(m): 9:48pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
texazzpete: How about the other countries I listed? You highlight 3 counties from the hundreds that face loads of human right abuse and you think you have Done a comprehensive research? GTHOH!! Point is AI is a political tool in the hands of a few, the elite and highest bidders. Don't be to quick to defend without setting up your defense. In no way do I support human right abuses in any form but with the desperate way some selfish politicians are clinging on to any news to score cheap political points is sickening. These days one begins to wonder the purpose and motive behind some news published. 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Norstrademus(m): 10:49pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus:shut d f'u APC mongrel..u forget so soon HW ur APC champion of terror GMB promised to make GEJ Nigeria ungovernable jux because he lost out in d last presidential elections&guess wat he actually kept his promise and dats y'all apc charlatans think u have dirt on GEJ.buhari&thugs lyk urself are the real perpetrators behind all the mayhem we facing in the north and come 2015 y'all will hide ur faces in shame 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Horus(m): 11:01pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Norstrademus: I am not into politic so just Kiss my F***ing A** , and please change your name from Norstrademus to Norstrademon |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by texazzpete(m): 11:04pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
xcolanto: Every single one you listed is there. I just picked 3 out of the list as an example. Please don't be lazy and do your own googling yourself. Amnesty International criticize everyone, including all the usual suspects you brainless conspiracy theorists like to blame. As far as 'desperate politicians' are concerned, good job pretending it's just the opposition that reap PR benefit from these attacks. 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Norstrademus(m): 11:06pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Horus:Homo Horus won't give u dat satisfaction..fag0t 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by cheleku(m): 11:27pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Texazzpete, my 'Man of the year' award goes to you. I commend your immense patience in enlightening some of the numskulls that have been putting up mostly bigoted and uninformed arguments. ........ How insidious the mix of bigotry and ignorance can be! 2 Likes |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Horus(m): 12:07am On Nov 18, 2014 |
Norstrademus: You Wish I was. See how your own perverted mind filled the *** missing letters . |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by vislabraye(m): 12:50am On Nov 18, 2014 |
texazzpete: That's the handiwork of OBJ. And that's what GEJ is trying to avoid. 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by beast4rmdeast(m): 2:06am On Nov 18, 2014 |
arresa:its funny how u people are concerned with peoples rights,wats d worst that happen to them?wrongful detention but when child starvation in the biafran war is mentioned you joyfully defend the nigerian army all of u are evil,if I had d chance I'd detonate a nuclear plant over there cuz according to awo all is fair in war. 1 Like |
Re: So Amnesty International Was Right Afterall? by Horus(m): 2:31am On Nov 18, 2014 |
endy231: I will continue to blame your corrupt and clueless GEJ (Watch the video below) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRMUYlvqUBI [size=15pt]Boko Haram Are Getting Arms From The Nigerian Armed Forces[/size] Ever wondered where the Islamist sect Boko haram get their arms?. A Public Affairs Analyst, Mahmood Othman, says the members of Boko Haram get their arms from the Nigerian Armed Forces. He said that the arms are gotten whenever they attack Police stations and military posts. 1 Like |
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