Geeblaze4:
So op is going to hell abi?e no concern me but as for me I'm going to heaven,who wants to follow me?

What makes you think u are going to heaven?

Are u righteous?

If a sinner like you is convinced of making heaven that means Adolph hitler is also in heaven,osama bin laden is in heaven. No be so?

Dapo777:


Lol That's a flawed illustration.

You are making it look as if Adam And Eve knew the devil before they were tempted by the devil. That illustration doesn't fit.

Because the students already know the miscreant, But Adam And Eve didn't know the devil,So why can't he destroy the devil before he gets a chance of misleading adam and eve?why is God waiting for the devil to destroy all man kind just to prove What silly point?

Wait sef.

What point is God trying to prove by folding his arms And watching Satan cause havoc?

What sort of a father would watch an enemy destroy his children And say 'I am waiting for the right time"

What the fvck

They didn't know the Devil and so it was okay for them to disobey God? You do realize that Satan wasn't even a Devil then, he was an overambitious angel. The point is, they disobeyed God, okay?

The Devil will not destroy ALL mankind. This is just for a while.

What point is God trying to make? It's like this: make your choice. Will you like, Adam and Eve follow Satan or serve God?

That's the point He's trying to make.

You sound pained, BTW.

Dapo777:


What makes you think u are going to heaven?

Are u righteous?

If a sinner like you is convinced of making heaven that means Adolph hitler is also in heaven,osama bin laden is in heaven. No be so?

that you wallow in sin doesn't mean i also wallow in sin,i confess my sins and He hears me,i know my father and He knows my name...Jesus doesn't want the death of a sinner.you are what you believe!even if hitler humbles himself before the Lord if he confesses his sin,he can make heaven....i'm still going to heaven do you care to join?

MzNelly:

They didn't know the Devil and so it was okay for them to disobey God? You do realize that Satan wasn't even a Devil then, he was an overambitious angel. The point is, they disobeyed God, okay?

The Devil will not destroy ALL mankind. This is just for a while.

What point is God trying to make? It's like this: make your choice. Will you like, Adam and Eve follow Satan or serve God?

That's the point He's trying to make.

You sound pained, BTW.

If I sound pained. You sound unreasonable.

Let me help you reason a bit.

Imagine if your father is a commander of the armed forces And he saw you being beaten by some rascals, And your father says,no I don't want to interfere with the freewill of those rascals I want them to make a choice to stop beating my daughter. And he folds his arms expecting the rascals to stop beating you.

Does that make any sense to you?

IF it does,Then you are unreasonable. I would rather be pained than to be unreasonable.

Geeblaze4:
that you wallow in sin doesn't mean i also wallow in sin,i confess my sins and He hears me,i know my father and He knows my name...Jesus doesn't want the death of a sinner.you are what you believe!even if hitler humbles himself before the Lord if he confesses his sin,he can make heaven....i'm still going to heaven do you care to join?

That's What am saying Na,you are going to heaven,I am going to heaven,everyone is going to heaven,there would be no one in hell, only Satan And his demons.

Is that not So?

Dapo777:


If I sound pained. You sound unreasonable.

Let me help you reason a bit.

Imagine if your father is a commander of the armed forces And he saw you being beaten by some rascals, And your father says,no I don't want to interfere with the freewill of those rascals I want them to make a choice to stop beating my daughter. And he folds his arms expecting the rascals to stop beating you.

Does that make any sense to you?

IF it does,Then you are unreasonable. I would rather be pained than to be unreasonable.

Oh.....okay.

malvisguy212:
how can you express your love to someone without trial? Freewill without two option, is'nt is partial Freewill? Evil must exist for man to chose to hate or love God,the world you ask for is not here,it heaven.

The father of the two year old daughter that got tortured by the baby sitter,why can't the father express his love for his daughter by making his daughter go through trials by the baby sitter? Why didn't the father give the nanny complete freewill,the option to chose not to torture his daughter or to torture his daughter

I wonder how you reason in real life. Maybe you just act dumb on nairaland to defend sky daddy.

MzNelly:

Oh.....okay.

What is OK? You didn't answer my question.

Does that make any sense to you?

Dapo777:


What is OK? You didn't answer my question.

Does that make any sense to you?

I have nothing more to say to you, Sir.

Dapo777:


That's What am saying Na,you are going to heaven,I am going to heaven,everyone is going to heaven,there would be no one in hell, only Satan And his demons.

Is that not So?

that was how it supposed to be at the beginning but many people have sold their hearts to the devil and the devil will surely take his possessions and drag them to hell with him.

Geeblaze4:
that was how it supposed to be at the beginning but many people have sold their hearts to the devil and the devil will surely take his possessions and drag them to hell with him.

No one is going to any hell. What you call the devil is merely another side of Jesus Christ. His evil side.

Look up paranoid schizophrenia.

Geeblaze4:
that was how it supposed to be at the beginning but many people have sold their hearts to the devil and the devil will surely take his possessions and drag them to hell with him.

So What's now the purpose of Jesus' death?

MzNelly:

I have nothing more to say to you, Sir.

Because your points have been sufficiently debunked. If not you will have something to say against my point

Dapo777:


Because your points have been sufficiently debunked. If not you will have something to say against my point

Okay, then.

Weah96:


No one is going to any hell. What you call the devil is merely another side of Jesus Christ. His evil side.

Look up paranoid schizophrenia.

i wasn't even talking to you,so go and sleep!

Geeblaze4:
i wasn't even talking to you,so go and sleep!

Your devil woke me up.

Dapo777:


So What's now the purpose of Jesus' death?

He came to die for we sinners,that's why our sins are forgiven the moment we ask for pardon

Weah96:


Your devil woke me up.

ah..ha!i see you want me to exchange words with you,but i ain't got your time.

Geeblaze4:
ah..ha!i see you want me to exchange words with you,but i ain't got your time.

I doubt that you have any useful to say.

Geeblaze4:
He came to die for we sinners,that's why our sins are forgiven the moment we ask for pardon

So why do we need to practise our faith by doing good Since Jesus has died for us And we ask for pardon. I can simple say,God forgive me for every sin I will commit which I haven't committed yet because of your son that died for my sin. Amen.

I am free!!!! It's time to sin. my sins have been forgiven in advance.

No be So?

Dapo777:


So why do we need to practise our faith by doing good Since Jesus has died for us And we ask for pardon. I can simple say,God forgive me for every sin I will commit which I haven't committed yet because of your son that died for my sin. Amen.

I am free!!!! It's time to sin. my sins have been forgiven in advance.

No be So?

no be so o,we must not misuse the grace,''are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?by no means!''

If one should tell you to run very far from Jw you will think he's mad, now that you are dancing in ignorance, don't forget ignorance leds to hellfire (isa 5:13-15). Better be a fool and make heaven than be wise and later realise there was everlasting torment afterall.

Geeblaze4:
no be so o,we must not misuse the grace,''are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?by no means!''

It's a lie jor you are free to sin,they just wrote that one to put you in check

Tomytomy3:
If one should tell you to run very far from Jw you will think he's mad, now that you are dancing in ignorance, don't forget ignorance leds to hellfire (isa 5:13-15). Better be a fool and make heaven than be wise and later realise there was everlasting torment afterall.

There are over 12000 hells And 12000 heavens,which one are you talking about?

So you know you are fool? I am glad

Dapo777:


The father of the two year old daughter that got tortured by the baby sitter,why can't the father express his love for his daughter by making his daughter go through trials by the baby sitter? Why didn't the father give the nanny complete freewill,the option to chose not to torture his daughter or to torture his daughter

I wonder how you reason in real life. Maybe you just act dumb on nairaland to defend sky daddy.

honestly, i dont even understand your point here.
True love is not permissive,God love for us is not permissive.

malvisguy212:
honestly, i dont even understand your point here.
True love is not permissive,God love for us is not permissive.

Guy you are So confused. Weren't you the one that asked me "how can you express your love for someone without trials" What does that imply? That I have to make someone go through trials to show that I love them. So I gave you an example, why didn't the father of that two year old girl express his love for her by making her go through trials in the hands of the baby sitter?
You would accept that the father doesn't love the toddler That's why he didn't allow his daughter to go through trials. According to ur flawed And brainwashed reasoning. Someone must put a loved one in trial to show his love.

How many times have you put the people you love under trial to show that you love them?

Dapo777:


It's a lie jor you are free to sin,they just wrote that one to put you in check

i kuku don know say you no go believe in the first place,so I've wasted my time abi?

Geeblaze4:
i kuku don know say you no go believe in the first place,so I've wasted my time abi?

U too think abt it,someone died for ur sins already And another person is now telling u Dat, Dat doesn't mean u shld be sinning ooo,So y did he die in the first place,isn't it to take away sin forever y he go come talk say make we no sin, Wats now the benefit of the death

Dapo777:


U too think abt it,someone died for ur sins already And another person is now telling u Dat, Dat doesn't mean u shld be sinning ooo,So y did he die in the first place,isn't it to take away sin forever y he go come talk say make we no sin, Wats now the benefit of the death

so you are saying everybody should continue to sin abi?trust me if there was no law against sin,the world would be upside down by now...sin is disobedience to God,if you have a conscience you won't commit grievous sins,God gave us that too to put us in check.

Dapo777:


Guy you are So confused. Weren't you the one that asked me "how can you express your love for someone without trials" What does that imply? That I have to make someone go through trials to show that I love them. So I gave you an example, why didn't the father of that two year old girl express his love for her by making her go through trials in the hands of the baby sitter?
You would accept that the father doesn't love the toddler That's why he didn't allow his daughter to go through trials. According to ur flawed And brainwashed reasoning. Someone must put a loved one in trial to show his love.

How many times have you put the people you love under trial to show that you love them?

read the whole book of james chapter one.

James 1:13-14. When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil
desire and enticed.

Geeblaze4:
so you are saying everybody should continue to sin abi?trust me if there was no law against sin,the world would be upside down by now...sin is disobedience to God,if you have a conscience you won't commit grievous sins,God gave us that too to put us in check.

Alright

Dapo777:


Alright

yay!i won!oya come make we go heaven