henrysam:

BROS don't become the interpreter of the judgement here
The court did not state clearly which status quo to be maintained
And if you look at it very well tambuwal security had been withdrawn before he went to court
So which of the status quo do we follow.
The judiciary have not beenn so helpful to our democracy in a situation line this I expected expedicious judgement but instead of us to look at this area we focus in the executive expecially the presidency.

Oga mi, did you do anything in school regarding basic law? I will find it very difficult explaining this to you if you did not. I can also tell you are not a layer, if you were, you won't maintain the position you have in this case.
It was ultra vires ab initio for the IGP to withdraw his security without a court rulling and therefore the act should be considered illegal and abrogated.
Normally if Nigeria was a country of law and order, he remains the speaker until the court says otherwise. I guess anything goes here, so the IGP can do whatever he likes. BTW, I am not getting paid for this so...whatever wants to happen should happen.

slimmy05:
I laugh in parables when people rush to pick up constitution. I look at them as kids who are just getting used to the political terrain or happenings.

Tambuwal can remain an online speaker. But I tell you by the power that BE, he can never preside over the house. Quote me anytime.

GEJ is very lenient a president. I miss OBJ, he will remain in court till after election. If Peter Obi can be impeached in a Hotel in Asaba? Then Tambuwal can be impeached in a beer parlour.

....Does that means the bolded is right? or am i getting something wrong?

When was Tambuwal removed as Speaker and by whom?

Can the same person that removed the speaker also wake up one day and remove the President?

Is this the beginning of a Police State?

Politicians never learn.

Sad!

Nctrice:
so I should wait for a court to explain to me what is in that shit of book we call a constitution! Guy am not in that league! Let Tambuwal come out and tell us why he should still even be called a house of rep member, because he left his party while there were no faction in pdp and pdp did not merge with any party! Go get yourself a Nigerian Constitution and read! The most annoying part of this whole defection of the speaker is that I don't think those who wrote the constitution considered a speaker defecting because if they did, they won't have to say that the speaker or the presiding officer is the only one to announce a seat vacant in the case of defection of members when parties are still intact

I like your comment, which means for u to call for Mr Speaker who was elected by the people of nigeria to resign, then you must use the same voice to call Mr mimiko former ondo governor.
My take is that that useless IGP should be sacked nd charged for treason.
Except the government want mass protect by concern good people of nigeria

Raiders:
Tambuwal has the majority in the house. He has the support of some pdp house members and most APC house members. The Nigeria constitution did not state that the speaker must be from the majority party. We are not operating a parliamentery system of government where the majority party rules the government. The courts will support the speaker because its really clear that the speaker can come from any party as long as he is a member of the house

This is a very big lie. The majority party always rules the house.

Tambuwal should go to court or go to blazes.

He's no longer a member of National Assembly!

Although, I will not dispute the fact that the IGP is more of GEJ boy... But, the man is right and knows the stand of the law. Tambuwal should have prepared his mind to honourably resign when defecting to APC as there is a clause of the constitution that didn't support his action.

keyman0007:




total lies obj wont hv made much difference if so hw come it was difficult for him to remove atiku as his vice. And it was also difficult for him to extend his tenure. My guy leave day thing. The power of the house shd remain within the house and nt the party or executive

But obj can use 3 senate presidents and 4 speakers of house of representatives.
Tear gas shot killed okadigbo and doctors did not attend to him on time during obj regime.
Nigerians have a short memories that's why politicians take us for a ride.

Oga Abba explained that he had intel hudlums were coming to attack the hallowed chambers
The previous day Oga Amechi and his team were reportedly threathning to attack some govt concerns in Abuja
The next day what looked like Amechi's team were on their way to the hallowed chambers.
In the team included one man that looked like Alhaji Tambuwal, walking like the Speaker.
Meanwhile, there was a status quo pronouncement that even the SANs in both parties interpreted differently.

If I were Oga Abba, I would order my police to deny Amechi's team entry with minimum force including tear gas if neccesary.
Oga Abba is not the course of the problem and he was doing his work.
The problemm was coursed by the judge and the lawyers who could not explain status quo.
Besides, does that phrase not have real English or Nigerian explanation.

What is status quo in this?
If someone stole my car, and i find the car with him and rush to the court,
and court orders status quo because the thief denies stealing the car?
Does status quo imply that the thief should continue to use the car until i prove beyond reasonable doubt in court, which may take years, or that the car should be returned to me or be parked pending the determination of the case as they say?

I suggest whoever should find a clearer explanation and alternative phrase for status quo should be made a SAN,
afterall Sameulson said that you can make a great economist out of a parrot by merely teaching it to say "Demand and Supply"
In the mean time, AVIAZUVAKENE

uokocha70:


Oga mi, did you do anything in school regarding basic law? I will find it very difficult explaining this to you if you did not. I can also tell you are not a layer, if you were, you won't maintain the position you have in this case.
It was ultra vires ab initio for the IGP to withdraw his security without a court rulling and therefore the act should be considered illegal and abrogated.
Normally if Nigeria was a country of law and order, he remains the speaker until the court says otherwise. I guess anything goes here, so the IGP can do whatever he likes. BTW, I am not getting paid for this so...whatever wants to happen should happen.

GOD bless u....people turn logic on there head...its just being plain stupid.


Why would a IGP remove police protection of the number 4 citizen without a court order....where is the rule of law...

why would a IGP seal the gates at the NHA without proper notification to the house principal officers...

asking him to acknowledge the speaker is like asking a mad man to acknowledge he is mad

Amanwulu1:
bros, d IG is simply much more intelligent dan d so called committee. They insisted he must come as if they'll swallow him but now he has taught ur ignorant reps d LAW n they couldn't fault him hence their resorting to walking out. Say d IG is partisan, can u fault his argument dat d case being in court it is wrong to address Aminu as speaker.

Well said. The IG is more intelligent than the thugs in the house of rep.... He is doing his job by enforcing the law.
Since Tambuwal has defected (note that he became speaker cos of his party), he shld do the simple thing by resigning.... he is making the matter complicated.

No gentleman amongst our reps... I wonder what is more important to these so called reps... Is it the fact that Tambuwal was not addressed properly? or the fact that abt 200 girls are still missing in Chibok? or the fact that thousands of Nigerians are dying in the north east? or the fact that millions of graduates have no jobs? or the fact that standard of living for an average Nigerian is terribly poor?.... Fighting over power with there big bellies while there wards are dying in hunger, poverty and terrorism.

They must be in power so they climbed the gate... They must collect there seating allowance so the jumped the fence... Now they are paying attention to a trivial matter, while pple are dying.. what a shame tambuwal. What a shame.

Only the speaker and perhaps the court can cause Tambuwal to vacate his seat and not the IGP.According to section 68(2) of the constitution:

68(2)'' The President of the Senate or the Speaker of the House of Representatives, as the case may be, shall give effect to the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, so however that the President of the Senate or the Speaker of the House of Representatives or a member shall first present evidence satisfactory to the House concerned that any of the provisions of that subsection has become applicable in respect of that member.''

Although the constitution is silent on what happens if the speaker is the one affected,only the court can remove the speaker it it declares that Tambuwal's claim of a division of PDP in Sokoto is not tenable.

Please enough of constitutional rascality!

aviazuva:
Oga Abba explained that he had intel hudlums were coming to attack the hallowed chambers
The previous day Oga Amechi and his team were reportedly threathning to attack some govt concerns in Abuja
The next day what looked like Amechi's team were on their way to the hallowed chambers.
In the team included one man that looked like Alhaji Tambuwal, walking like the Speaker.
Meanwhile, there was a status quo pronouncement that even the SANs in both parties interpreted differently.

If I were Oga Abba, I would order my police to deny Amechi's team entry with minimum force including tear gas if neccesary.
Oga Abba is not the course of the problem and he was doing his work.
The problemm was coursed by the judge and the lawyers who could not explain status quo.
Besides, does that phrase not have real English or Nigerian explanation.

What is status quo in this?
If someone stole my car, and i find the car with him and rush to the court,
and court orders status quo because the thief denies stealing the car?
Does status quo imply that the thief should continue to use the car until i prove beyond reasonable doubt in court, which may take years, or that the car should be returned to me or be parked pending the determination of the case as they say?

I suggest whoever should find a clearer explanation and alternative phrase for status quo should be made a SAN,
afterall Sameulson said that you can make a great economist out of a parrot by merely teaching it to say "Demand and Supply"
In the mean time, AVIAZUVAKENE

You can LIE eh ....

Nctrice:
The IG has just done the needful the only story that is quite off the hook is the explosion of tear-gas, every other reason are justifiable! And he is right not to have called the former speaker "Speaker" I wait to see what the committee would do next!

How is he right when the court asked for status quo to be maintained until the case has been heard and judged?

Must you be biased? Let's learn to say the truth for the good of the nation. What he did is comtempt of court order and it is a jailable offense.

slimmy05:
You are very empty. You know nothing. Did Tambuwal contest as speaker? I don't need a response. Think with your head and not your anu.s

bros no be fight nobody will give u money for insulting, if u cant handle basisc argument no point comin out to share ur views. I responded to a view u shared. just intellectual debate period. The IGP is wrong and u knw it u r just being blinded by being a gej supporter to see it.The police cannot be the enforcer at the same time be the interpreters of the law. There is a reaso mm for havin the judiciary. The case is in court and d court had said the d speaker and remains speaker pending d delivery of judgement. What is so difficult to understand. If the people who elected the speaker demand he calls the Speaker the speaker who is he to go otherwise. I can go on and on.

keyman0007:



why r u being very bias, there are set of procedures to makin the speakers sit vacant none hv been followed an d u r concuring with the police. What of the 3 senators dat decamped from labour to pdp hw come the police isnt denying them access to nass. Let me give an example a police man apprehends a man who dey say killed someone even if the police has evidence the man killed a person does the police execute judgement like killin the person orjailin the person if the law say dat the applicable punishment. ? The answer is no, the suspect has to be trailed and if and only if found guilty can then be jailed or killed. I think the iGP is oversteppin his boundaries, the least he cld do his address him as the former speaker or even honourable tanbuwa and not "one alhaji tambuwa" Even if you are following orders from above na with sense dem dey do ham. This is own even wa pass presidency sef.

Ur logic seems good. But do you also realize that a suspect is denied certain freedom e.g. cannot leave the vicinity or territory during period of investigation and jugement.
If Tambuwal moves to APC, it is his right. But he wld have to vacate the speaker seat which he won as a PDP majority member.
It not just abt the person, but the party.
He didnt become rep member using his family name as the party name. It was under a party. So the Party is a majority in the house and has the speaker seat and he is elected as representative from the party.. Y does he think he can change party to a minority group and still retain power... I think he is just power drunk.... Its all dirty and dishonest politic that we have all come to know.... I liked the man sha b4 now... But him no dey act as gentle man now

keyman0007:



bros no be fight nobody will give u money for insulting, if u cant handle basisc argument no point comin out to share ur views. I responded to a view u shared. just intellectual debate period. The IGP is wrong and u knw it u r just being blinded by being a gej supporter to see it.The police cannot be the enforcer at the same time be the interpreters of the law. There is a reaso mm for havin the judiciary. The case is in court and d court had said the d speaker and remains speaker pending d delivery of judgement. What is so difficult to understand. If the people who elected the speaker demand he calls the Speaker the speaker who is he to go otherwise. I can go on and on.

when? You've been blindfolded with the usual APShit lies. Go and sleep.

michylabo:


Ur logic seems good. But do you also realize that a suspect is denied certain freedom e.g. cannot leave the vicinity or territory during period of investigation and jugement.
If Tambuwal moves to APC, it is his right. But he wld have to vacate the speaker seat which he won as a PDP majority member.
It not just abt the person, but the party.
He didnt become rep member using his family name as the party name. It was under a party. So the Party is a majority in the house and has the speaker seat and he is elected as representative from the party.. Y does he think he can change party to a minority group and still retain power... I think he is just power drunk.... Its all dirty and dishonest politic that we have all come to know.... I liked the man sha b4 now... But him no dey act as gentle man now

spot on

henrysam:

Just like posterity will judge tambuwal by been used to scuttle our nescent democracy
I have never seen Where a minority wants to lead the majority. Even in democracy that we copy its not like this.
Can apc take this shit they are forcing on us if this happens to pdp.
Just tell tambuwal to be more honorable by resigning his seat so that we can move forward.
And if not we are all in it together and history will write against him that he was a minorty that wanted to lead a majority
Even oyinbo people will be laughing at us but these pple do not care because they don't care about us its their selfish interest they care about.

The house members could have impeached him if they felt the need to. The police need not be used as tools.

suleman Abba don chop im Children's lives with his own. tHats one thing I'm pretty aware of.

arsetalks:
How is he right when the court asked for status quo to be maintained until the case has been heard and judged?

Must you be biased? Let's learn to say the truth for the good of the nation. What he did is comtempt of court order and it is a jailable offense.

contempt. You are really an eyesore. Providing security to avert unforeseen dangers has become an eyesore. You've been blindfolded.

MrAboki:


ERM!!!

First of all, calling the 'Northern Agenda' a Jonathanian or PDP thing is laughable.. We all lived through the fuckery that happened after the passing of the Late President Yaradua.. APC is a merger of 3 parties, 2 Northern themed parties (ANPP and CPC) and one Western Party (AD a.k.a ACN).. They have only fielded a Northern for President since their merger. Their Principals are mostly Northerners (Buhari, Atiku, e.t.c).. Lets not try to play pretend here or act naive.. Its like tomorrow somebody will try to say that APGA is not an Igbo Political party that promote the 'Igbo Agenda'..

Secondly.. Buhari cant win the South-South votes nor the East. And as it stands, the best he can do is split the middle-belt votes. Its only in the North that he has his main support group. The sentiments outside the North towards APC remains Hausa party with the Yorubas being second in the perking order.

I dont pretend to be de-tribalized.. Infact I see any Nigerian who preaches that to be a joker.

Ribadu didnt do his home work well and still had the stench of being Obasanjos henchman during his time as the EFCC chief following him around then.. And its now too late to start working on fixing that..

APC has to show good faith by fielding a Non-Northerner or Westerner for Presidency for them to swing popular opinion outside the North in their favor.

I would honestly love to see Jonathan go in 2015.. I cant keep making excuses for him. ALmost every key aspect of our Nation is in peril. Security is so bad that we now read about bombings like it was nothing.. The value Naira is dropping fast, Education and Healthcare is still fhucked. The one sector we all thought he would come through on which was Power, he simply unbundled PHCN and leaned back.. The refineries are all still as useless as they ever were.. There has been remarkable improvement on some Federal roads (in the South), but the Western States still have it very very bad. He has allowed his wife run wild and act with impunity. The Nigerian Police now acts above the law (example Rivers State). The Polity is super hot.. If I wake up tomorrow to see a Military man on TV declaring a Nationwide Marshall Law, I wouldnt be the least surprised.

Jonathan has got to go, But there is not viable alternative.

what is that Northern Agenda? Why the skepticism about it?

Ibadannimowa:


The house members could have impeached him if they felt the need to. The police need not be used as tools.

suleman Abba don chop im Children's lives with his own. tHats one thing I'm pretty aware of.

stop blabbing Mr. Man, what has his kids got to do with this. You guys need to start keeping sanity. All these paid APShit self acclaimed follower including your boss Barcanista, need to start acting civil with your words.

Abba is the Inspector General of Police incharge of not only securing properties but also lives and avert dangers with full protection when any is perceived. He carried out what he has been appointed to do.

Nctrice:
so I should wait for a court to explain to me what is in that shit of book we call a constitution! Guy am not in that league! Let Tambuwal come out and tell us why he should still even be called a house of rep member, because he left his party while there were no faction in pdp and pdp did not merge with any party! Go get yourself a Nigerian Constitution and read! The most annoying part of this whole defection of the speaker is that I don't think those who wrote the constitution considered a speaker defecting because if they did, they won't have to say that the speaker or the presiding officer is the only one to announce a seat vacant in the case of defection of members when parties are still intact

Okay so the Nigerian constitution is now poo?. All this because of Jonathan. Well Jonathan had better be God to you because you have committed great sacrilege with that Statement. The Speaker remains Speaker until the court rules on the matter in the negative. The Speaker is not an appointee of the PDP. As a Speaker he is not even ELECTED by Nigerians. Please try to get this into your head. It is the American constitution we copied and in describing the office of speaker, their constitution uses the following words; ..."The house of representatives shall elect a speaker from amongst themselves". Please understand that it is only the majority of members of the House that can remove the Speaker. If the PDP is not sure of their majority in the house they should admit it. Many PDP members were also prevented from entering the house and were tear gassed as well so I suspect there is no parliamentary majority against Tambuwal. The PDP is dead in spirit. A lot of people are there just because they want to keep their seats or share in the money. The Speaker did his home work properly before crossing carpet.

michylabo:


Ur logic seems good. But do you also realize that a suspect is denied certain freedom e.g. cannot leave the vicinity or territory during period of investigation and jugement.
If Tambuwal moves to APC, it is his right. But he wld have to vacate the speaker seat which he won as a PDP majority member.
It not just abt the person, but the party.
He didnt become rep member using his family name as the party name. It was under a party. So the Party is a majority in the house and has the speaker seat and he is elected as representative from the party.. Y does he think he can change party to a minority group and still retain power... I think he is just power drunk.... Its all dirty and dishonest politic that we have all come to know.... I liked the man sha b4 now... But him no dey act as gentle man now

but he filed an injunction in court and court declared status quo remains(he remains the speaker) pending execution of judgement. So tell me who is breakin d law? And d police keeps tellin is nt to practice jungle justice. Also if my memory serves me correctly pdp wanted mulikat adeola to be speaker nt him. They were angry he became the speaker so my broda u see ham.

Jerry24kay:


You can LIE eh ....

Which lie, you no dey read or listen to the news?

If NEPA no give you light, go buy gen, fuel price wan come down as price of crude face down so

clubone05:



GOD bless u....people turn logic on there head...its just being plain stupid.


Why would a IGP remove police protection of the number 4 citizen without a court order....where is the rule of law...

why would a IGP seal the gates at the NHA without proper notification to the house principal officers...

asking him to acknowledge the speaker is like asking a mad man to acknowledge he is mad

He is no longer in PDP so he can't have what accrues to one. He is no loner the speaker so he doesn't need security aids as he is just an house rep member. Hope this brightens your dead brain.

slimmy05:
stop blabbing Mr. Man, what has his kids got to do with this. You guys need to start keeping sanity. All these paid APShit self acclaimed follower including your boss Barcanista, need to start acting civil with your words.

Abba is the Inspector General of Police incharge of not only securing properties but also lives and avert dangers with full protection when any is perceived. He carried out what he has been appointed to do.

Dont give us the great speech abeg.
what lives and property was he protecting in the house I think d police presence dat day caused more ham than gud. They provoked the law makers by deny the speaker access. My broda the executive needs to tame their dog b4 things get out of hand

Muscomide:
Jonathan is presiding over the disintegration of Nigeria as we know it. Such acts of impunity are ominous for next year. Be afraid, be very afraid!

. Who is this? No BH or set of self serving NASS people and their 3D backers(deserters,defectors and dissidents) can disintegrate nigeria! We will be more United after the elections!

Nctrice:
so I should wait for a court to explain to me what is in that shit of book we call a constitution! Guy am not in that league! Let Tambuwal come out and tell us why he should still even be called a house of rep member, because he left his party while there were no faction in pdp and pdp did not merge with any party! Go get yourself a Nigerian Constitution and read! The most annoying part of this whole defection of the speaker is that I don't think those who wrote the constitution considered a speaker defecting because if they did, they won't have to say that the speaker or the presiding officer is the only one to announce a seat vacant in the case of defection of members when parties are still intact

Yes u should wait for d court, u Arrow

michylabo:

If Tambuwal moves to APC, it is his right. But he wld have to vacate the speaker seat which he won as a PDP majority member.

Where is this stated sir?

He didnt become rep member using his family name as the party name. It was under a party. So the Party is a majority in the house and has the speaker seat and he is elected as representative from the party.

Does every other party have a speaker?
Was it only pdp that elected him as speaker?
If NO, don't you think it's the duty of everyone in the house to vote him out thereby impeaching him?

Mr. I.G Puppet in the hands of the President.

slimmy05:
and when has it happened that the minority presides over the majority. Did Tambuwal contest as speaker? He was appointed Speaker as one of the majority in the house(PDP).

If he decides to leve PDP, he should be ready to also forfeit the position. Tambuwal can never and will never preside over the house.

Appointed as speaker that's a new one