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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:33pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:



Bwahahahs grin

The satellite is Russian until proved otherwise. South African defense spokesman said owner of the satellite IS NOT known.... "What we don't know is whether the Kondor-E satellite that launched this morning (Friday) is Defence Intelligence's Kondor-E satellite which was part of Project Flute.To prove that is a challenge" .

It's still RUSSIAN OWNED PROPERTY today, Southies have no satellite and United Nation law will not allow secret sale of military grade satellites, even ordinary radar system sales are compelled to be reported to UN grin
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augubgugu, let me ask you

who are you quoting?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:35pm On Dec 19, 2014
rka1:


http://saharareporters.com/2014/12/19/nigerian-troops-kill-75-boko-haram-militants-phcn-facility-borno cool cool


Nigerian Troops Kill 75 Boko Haram Militants At PHCN Facility In Borno

At least 75 Boko Haram fighters were killed by Nigerian troops on Wednesday during a clash with the insurgents in Borno, security sources, and Power Holding Company of Nigeria staff have said.
by SAHARAREPORTERS, NEW YORK Dec 19, 2014
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At least 75 Boko Haram fighters were killed by Nigerian troops on Wednesday during a clash with the insurgents in Borno, security sources, and Power Holding Company of Nigeria staff have said. Troops patrolling Damboa after clearing the town of insurgents PR Nigeria

SaharaReporters gathered that over hundred Boko Haram fighters stormed Bulaburin village to attack military men who escorted PHCN staff to repair power installations that were destroyed by insurgents six months ago in Damboa.

The militants came in a convoy of Hilux vehicles and motorcycles but met heavy resistance, a military source said.

A PHCN staff on assignment in the area told SaharaReporters that the military killed up to 75 militants during the encounter.

He added, "I am happy today because it would have been a black day for us at Bulaburin. We went to repair Maiduguri electrical infrastructure which had been shut down by militants since July as we were working we started hearing sporadic gun shots, so the troops fought back. However, the intense fight affected our vehicles; we drove to Maiduguri on flat tyres" he said.

A security source told our reporter that the soldiers at the scene were at alerted immediately they were hinted that the Boko Haram were coming to attack them.

"Our soldiers climbed the telecom mast to see them, and behold they were coming in large numbers in Hilux pick up vans, motorcycles and cars. The soldiers waited for them, and when they came, they attacked them immediately," the security source said.

as we say in south africa:

and so?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:37pm On Dec 19, 2014
agaugust:


Every standard air force has test pilots, their role includes flying potential procurement aircraft for evaluation.
You're wrong.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:38pm On Dec 19, 2014
agaugust:


So Mokopa is not an ATGM....what is it? Papa Ajasco grin
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Yes, it isn't ATGM. More like a ASM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:39pm On Dec 19, 2014
agaugust:


Even Cameroon has retired pilots as reserve, and then...
what do they fly?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:44pm On Dec 19, 2014
Henry240:
SAAF should consider selling Gripens and buying transports
Written by Guy Martin, Wednesday, 29 October 2014


The South African Air Force (SAAF) has 26 Gripens in its inventory but 12 are in “rotational” storage and only 18 Gripen navigators and pilots have been trained to operational status. [/b]Which begs the question: what should we do with aircraft we don’t need and can’t afford to operate?

[b]The solution could be a simple one: sell off the 12 Gripens in storage (since we won’t miss them anyway) and use the money for fuel, pilot training and new equipment that the Air Force desperately needs - its C-130 Hercules fleet is ageing and the Air Force is increasingly forced to rely on charters to move people and equipment to places like the Democratic Republic of Congo, while the SAAF’s maritime surveillance C-47TPs are more than half a century old and suffering from attrition.
grin grin grin grin

While the C-47TPs and C-130s are working extremely hard and are in urgent need of replacement, the Gripens are grossly underutilised. Since 2008 the Gripen fleet has flown 3 500 hours, according to a SAAF official, equating to roughly 135 hours per airframe or roughly 20 hours per aircraft per year, or less than two hours per aircraft per month.

Maintenance for the Gripens has also been problematic - between April and December 2013 the SAAF had no support contracts in place with Saab, with the Air Force only doing basic hands-on maintenance. A support contract worth R285 million (€19 million) was finally awarded in December and is seeing Saab support the Gripen fleet to 2016.

Of the transport fleet, only around three C-130s are airworthy at any given time and only three C-47TPs are available for transport duties. The small fleet of C212s is only useful for carrying small loads short distances. As a result, the South African Air Force often has to rely on chartered aircraft like Il-76s to get its equipment to places like the Central African Republic (CAR) and Democratic Republic of Congo, which can be a very expensive and time-consuming affair – troops have often been stranded while waiting for a chartered flight and a lack of airlift capacity meant the military couldn’t immediately transport armoured vehicles to our soldiers fighting Seleka rebels in the CAR in March 2013.

With the cancellation of the order for eight A400Ms in 2009, the SAAF was left without a clear replacement for the C-130BZ fleet and, since the deposit was paid back to the treasury, left without money for acquiring new transports. Since funding is tight yet the need is urgent, perhaps[b]it is time to advertise some practically new Gripens for sale: low mileage, stored in a nice dry climate and only flown on weekends.[/b] grin grin grin grin grin


CC: Agaugust, Mikeczar, patches689, Jln115 , iterator24, stillchris, rka1, overhypedsteve, mzilakazi, activatekruger, bidexii, naijapikingidi, dievuilt, iconize, Andrewza
SAAF provided evidence at the commission, it is available on the net for people like you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:45pm On Dec 19, 2014
Henry240:


More lies grin grin grin, we all know the true state of the SAAF

You have 9 pilots
You only have 3 operational C-130's.
You lack Aviation fuel
Some of your transport planes are over 50 years old
You lack funds
Your airforce is in a pathetic state.
Dreams again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:49pm On Dec 19, 2014
patches689:


as we say in south africa:

and so?

As we say in Nigeria "everything is under control." cool cool cool

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:49pm On Dec 19, 2014
rka1:


I am going to set up a charity to help Mexico buy the 12 grounded Gripens #Gripens4Mexico grin grin grin

I pledge $1,000 donation to help Mexico buy all grounded South African air force Gripen jets that Mandela laboured 27 years to acquire
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:51pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


I pledge $1,000 donation to help Mexico buy all grounded South African air force Gripen jets that Mandela laboured 27 years to acquire
.

no one would accept $1000 worth of cassawa crops your peasants grow

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:51pm On Dec 19, 2014
patches689:


augubgugu, let me ask you

who are you quoting?


Your own South African source that you cannot dispute.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:53pm On Dec 19, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Yes, it isn't ATGM. More like a ASM.

It's got HEAT war head means it's an ATGM. Papa Ajasco !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:53pm On Dec 19, 2014
overhypedsteve:
so what do you as a private citizen think.lol , sell the white elephants and get yourselves an airframe that is in line with your internal and external security demands.
Funding didn't follow or match the force design of the 98 defence review. Aa massive funds go to socio-economic programmes.

Studies were conducted on what's needed. Funding is the only problem SAAF faces.

Even with those problems, SAAF demonstrated its readiness during the CAR incident by deploy 4 Gripens and Rooivalks. At short notice.

Nigeria fails to provide close air support too running soldiers, and sentencing them to dea..th for not being offered combat support.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:54pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


I pledge $1,000 donation to help Mexico buy all grounded South African air force Gripen jets that Mandela laboured 27 years to acquire
.

Come on bloggers, Oga Aaugust has set the ball rolling, lets dig deep and show our generous spirit grin grin grin

#Gripens4Mexico

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:54pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


It's got HEAT war head means it's an ATGM. Papa Ajasco !

So does the AGm114

what is your point?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:55pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


Your own South African source that you cannot dispute.

answer the question

who said that?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:55pm On Dec 19, 2014
MikeCZAR:
what do they fly?


Alpha jets
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:58pm On Dec 19, 2014
MikeCZAR:
SAAF provided evidence at the commission, it is available on the net for people like you.


Defence review NOT approved as at today. No money to fund SANDF o !
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:04pm On Dec 19, 2014
agaugust:


I did read my posts for sure, I read it so much that I even made it into photo screenshots for Nairaland to see.

SAAF had only 4 Jet aircraft in Lion Effort, for the 4 capable good pilots, the other 4 pilots belong to the drum beating trumpet blowing supporters club bench warmers.

So your pilots are NOT the same class, 4 good, 4 crap = 8 Gripen pilots.

Go see Lion Effort profile pages of SAAF pilots and see how many of your 8 pilots have real life combat exerience since the day they were born, the counting will embarrass SAAF grin grin
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Those 4 Gripens were the last ones to be delivered. They were held back in Sweden for SAAF to participate in Lion Effort.

What was th kill ratio?

I'd be proud seeing my brothers downing jets at a ratio of 1:9

Investigate how other air forces were impressed about the SAAF low flying capabilities.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:05pm On Dec 19, 2014
rka1:


Come on bloggers, Oga Aaugust has set the ball rolling, lets dig deep and show our generous spirit grin grin grin

#Gripens4Mexico

In the absence of fuel to give them flying hours, I'll pay the 8 jobless and redundant SAAF Gripen pilots to shine boots for NA troops while the Mexicans cruise around with the jets.

cool cool cool

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:08pm On Dec 19, 2014
agaugust:


First problem is NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana have 13km range 76mm gun with rapid fire mode anti-aircraft, so before Lynx can launch Mokopa 10km away, NNS Thunder has struck the helicopter dead 13km away.

Second problem is that South African military have NO SINGLE Mokopa in service shocked shocked
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You always went on about "The CIWS on your frigate is only on the back"

The 76mm gun on your vessels is only on the front.

A super lynx with a 300km radar has plenty of time to get behind your vessel. And sink them with a salvo of 2 Mokopas.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:10pm On Dec 19, 2014
overhypedsteve:
what we and our allies against terrorism have learnt from the fight against boko haram, would not and cannot be thought in any military academy. And what we ve learnt, we will live to protect and teach to generations and generations of our children that will make that noble decision to serve in the nations army.
The hundreds who were kidnapped yesterday?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:18pm On Dec 19, 2014
Henry240:


We provided a source a few weeks back. The CAS confirmed them. This CAS flies combat sorties.

A soldier to the core.
He should try that during a full blown war and see how quick he'll be intercepted or shot down by MANPADS.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:25pm On Dec 19, 2014
Patchesagain:


Some left

Some stayed, such as Col Dixon

Whats your point?


Major General Rudman.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:36pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


Defence review NOT approved as at today. No money to fund SANDF o !
.

It is approved - by cabinet

Just awaiting approval by parliament

this is a mere formality
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 7:38pm On Dec 19, 2014
rka1:


Come on bloggers, Oga Aaugust has set the ball rolling, lets dig deep and show our generous spirit grin grin grin

#Gripens4Mexico
In the spirit of brotherly generousity I pledge to donate the 10litres of avaition fuel i promised...i cn make it 20litres with special arrangie...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 7:47pm On Dec 19, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The hundreds who were kidnapped yesterday?

Nigeria is @ war with a diehard foe. There is bound to be offense and counter-offense.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 7:56pm On Dec 19, 2014
stillchris:


okay, so boko haram has been flying our F7s for us?

those f7 are more modern than your 1990s gripen
READ my post again, i said you have 2 pilots for your F-7s, and please explain how a 3rd gen F-7 is more advanced than a 4.5 gen Aircraft, and the Gripen c/d entered service in 2002 with the Swedish Air force, thus were do you get your 1990 from?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 7:59pm On Dec 19, 2014
Henry120:


You have 9 Gripen pilots. Fact.
Prove it!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 8:01pm On Dec 19, 2014
AugustineAgain:


Defence review NOT approved as at today. No money to fund SANDF o !
.
Its been approved, sources have been posted multiple times.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:06pm On Dec 19, 2014
#SAAFGripens2Mexico

I pledge 50 litres worth of aviation fuel to our brothers in the SAAF, and a $1500 donation to the Mexican Airforce.

grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi:


In the absence of fuel to give them flying hours, I'll pay the 8 jobless and redundant SAAF Gripen pilots to shine boots for NA troops while the Mexicans cruise around with the jets.

cool cool cool

*ROTFL*

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