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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Prove it.
"The South African contingent consisted of 29 members from 2 Squadron and eleven support staff, who arrived in Sweden on March 25"
"The eight South African fighter pilots performed very well in simulated combat, with only one SAAF Gripen being downed."

Thus 29+11+8(pilots)=48 or 40 if the Pilots where included in the 29 members from 2 Squadron.

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26362:south-africa-aiming-to-host-lion-effort-2018&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:41pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


He's far more credible than Defenceweb.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Dec 22, 2014
FighterPilot:



That's what we did with our first nine Gripen Ds. Remember, we cannot all train our pilots in Sweden, others will have to be trained in SA by South Africans.

It is common sense, that's why Airforce purchase two seater fighters as well as well as single seaters.

Nothing new.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:42pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


He's far more credible than Defenceweb.
It is a blog. Beeg blog is full of trash.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:44pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


You are a dolt.

I made that comment in respect to the SU-30 video, not salaries.
Ugandan pilots aren't happy.

I'd have the Rafale, Typhoon or Super Hornet any day over the SU-30.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Dec 22, 2014
jln115:

"The South African contingent consisted of 29 members from 2 Squadron and eleven support staff, who arrived in Sweden on March 25"
"The eight South African fighter pilots performed very well in simulated combat, with only one SAAF Gripen being downed."

Thus 29+11+8(pilots)=48 or 40 if the Pilots where included in the 29 members from 2 Squadron.

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26362:south-africa-aiming-to-host-lion-effort-2018&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

29 + 11 = 40, not 48.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:45pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Your problem.


SAAF as in current has more than 9 gripen pilots. That number has been multiplying every after two years.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:45pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


$8 billion.

[citation needed]

Until proven otherwise, $500 million more than us

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Doesn't matter what you think, we all know the SAAF only has 9 Gripen pilots.


SAAF Gripen pilot timeline
15 years = 9 pilots
30 years = 18 pilots
45 years = 26 pilots.
NAF f-7 Pilot timeline.
09 years = 2 Pilots
18 years = 4 Pilots
27 years = 6 Pilots
36 years = 8 Pilots
45 years =10 Pilots
54 years =12 Pilots

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Doesn't matter what you think, we all know the SAAF only has 9 Gripen pilots.


SAAF Gripen pilot timeline
15 years = 9 pilots
30 years = 18 pilots
45 years = 26 pilots.

14 Pilots

You have never proven we have 9

On a balance of probabilities we have 14

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Nope, 1 hour 30 mins

3000 hours since 2008 says otherwise
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2014
MikeCZAR:
It is a blog. Beeg blog is full of trash.

Retarrd.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Manoeuvres which put the SU-30 above the F-15E.

Maneuvers that are useless in combat

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:47pm On Dec 22, 2014
jln115:

NAF f-7 Pilot timeline.
09 years = 2 Pilots
18 years = 4 Pilots
27 years = 6 Pilots
36 years = 8 Pilots
45 years =10 Pilots
54 years =12 Pilots

grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:48pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Retarrd.

Is it a blog?

Yes

Is it full of trash?

Yes

Not sure how that makes him retarded
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:49pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


You don't have pilots. It isn't even a question of training. SAAF personnel are too dull to fly the Gripen.
NAF pilots aren't that well trained, that's a known fact.

SAAF is capable of deploying combat under short notice.

The Gripen flew to CAR.

The Rooivalk to Uganda.

When combat operations resume in the DRC after the disarmament deadline expires, the Rooivalk will be causing rebels to curse their gods, ancestors and commanders.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:49pm On Dec 22, 2014
patches689:


Maneuvers that are useless in combat


Manoeuvres that are irreplaceable in a dogfight or trying to evade missile lock ons.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:51pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


Manoeuvres that are irreplaceable in a dogfight or trying to evade missile lock ons.

Combat barely ever takes place at ultra-low altitude and at ultra-low speed

Su30 cant pull any of those maneuvers in actual combat, the plane would get ripped apart and the g-forces would kill or incapacitate the pilot

Its a gimmick, only really effective for carrier landing emergencies
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:56pm On Dec 22, 2014
@Henry- It takes a minimum of 5years to train recruits to the level of a qualified gripen fighter pilot.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


29 + 11 = 40, not 48.
Cant you see where i put an IF, as i wasnt sure if pilots were included or not.

But the next source states that the "South African contingent has 40 members (including fighter pilots from 2 Squadron), plus three technical representatives and a test pilot."
Thus 44 Aircrew and Ground personal confirmed.

P.S The Test Pilot is from SAAB South Africa.

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24676:saaf-gripens-taking-part-in-exercise-lion-effort&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107%20

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


grin grin grin
HAHAH i know its very very funny hey!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Dec 22, 2014
MikeCZAR:
NAF pilots aren't that well trained, that's a known fact.

SAAF is capable of deploying combat under short notice.

The Gripen flew to CAR.

The Rooivalk to Uganda.

When combat operations resume in the DRC after the disarmament deadline expires, the Rooivalk will be causing rebels to curse their gods, ancestors and commanders.

What known fact?

The SAAF has the least trained and experienced pilots in Africa's Big 5.

No SAAF Gripens flew to the CAR, if they actually did, the Nigerian Airforce won't have to do this,

To do what in Uganda, the Rooivalk is a Tin-pot half-french helicopter.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:02pm On Dec 22, 2014
jln115:

HAHAH i know its very very funny hey!!

I quite agree.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:06pm On Dec 22, 2014
patches689:


Combat barely ever takes place at ultra-low altitude and at ultra-low speed

Su30 cant pull any of those maneuvers in actual combat, the plane would get ripped apart and the g-forces would kill or incapacitate the pilot

Its a gimmick, only really effective for carrier landing emergencies

The SU-30 can't pull manoeuvres it is actually pulling, your comment makes no sense.

It's a very impressive fighter, a very very impressive fighter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:12pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


What known fact?

The SAAF has the least trained and experienced pilots in Africa's Big 5.

No SAAF Gripens flew to the CAR, if they actually did, the Nigerian Airforce won't have to do this,

To do what in Uganda, the Rooivalk is a Tin-pot half-french helicopter.

You have no point.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:15pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


What known fact?

The SAAF has the least trained and experienced pilots in Africa's Big 5.

No SAAF Gripens flew to the CAR, if they actually did, the Nigerian Airforce won't have to do this,

To do what in Uganda, the Rooivalk is a Tin-pot half-french helicopter.

Geipen flew to forward bases in DRC in preparation for the re-capture of Bangui, had the relevant regional body given support

Rooivalk engaged targets along the Ugandan border roughly a year ago - i believe it was on christmass day

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:16pm On Dec 22, 2014
Henry120:


The SU-30 can't pull manoeuvres it is actually pulling, your comment makes no sense.

It's a very impressive fighter, a very very impressive fighter.

Yes, because it isnt doing those maneuvers at 30 000 ft while going mach 1.5 +

Jets dont fight in the manner of WW1 bi-planes, at 100ft and 200kp/h

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Dec 22, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Ugandan pilots aren't happy.

I'd have the Rafale, Typhoon or Super Hornet any day over the SU-30.

that's because you are west bias. The SU-30 is better than all these fighters you've mentioned. The only western fighter i will pick over the 30, is the F-22. The 30s kill eagles with so much ease. Did you not see the indians do it against the americans?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:25pm On Dec 22, 2014
craziebone:


that's because you are west bias. The SU-30 is better than all these fighters you've mentioned. The only western fighter i will pick over the 30, is the F-22. The 30s kill eagles with so much ease. Did you not see the indians do it against the americans?


So, is SU-30 not from the west?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:29pm On Dec 22, 2014
craziebone:


that's because you are west bias. The SU-30 is better than all these fighters you've mentioned. The only western fighter i will pick over the 30, is the F-22. The 30s kill eagles with so much ease. Did you not see the indians do it against the americans?



F-15E Strike Eagle and F-16E/F Block 60 will eat the SU30 for breakfast

Yes, that is right, I said a single engine fighter will smash the Su30

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:32pm On Dec 22, 2014
FighterPilot:



So, is SU-30 not from the west?

Mumu, SAAF personnel.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:33pm On Dec 22, 2014
FighterPilot:



So, is SU-30 not from the west?

Patches689, mikeczar, jln115, this is exactly why you have 9 pilots for your Gripens, and your A109 fleet grounded.

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