I may decide to throw on the ground, my split kolanut (in 4 equal parts, rep. the four mkt days) and pour a little of my original schnapps (careful not to offend the gods with fake) & pray in a traditional way for good luck & fortune. Still doesn't mean I worship idols...
I guess.

Yes

No celebration, activity, e.t.c. Is evil or idolatrous except it glorifies something other than God.

So what if they are?? Idol worshipping should not be viewed in a negative light. Go idols!!

candidbabe:
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we get meeting by 11pm pls be dere

If observation of cultures and traditions is idol worshiping, then christianity, islam, hinduism and all other non-indigenous religious observations are also idol worshiping. By the way who set the status quo of what idol worshiping is and isn't. It is just the white man's language of making of traditional values to be seen as inferior. So my dear, our cultures and traditions is not idol worshiping. It is who we are, our heritage, our identity, but it's a pity we are losing it too fast.

topic for the gods

Read up the history of Nigeria b4 Christianity n tell me if all cultural/traditional gyration ain't ......

go ask Obong of Calabar,Oba of Lagos,Emir of sokoto,Attah of Igala,Tor-Tiv of Tiv,Eze Ndi Igbo 1 of Nnewi...if there say no then go and ask W.F Kumuyi

bobkezel:
If observation of cultures and traditions is idol worshiping, then christianity, islam, hinduism and all other non-indigenous religious observations are also idol worshiping. By the way who set the status quo of what idol worshiping is and isn't. It is just the white man's language of making of traditional values to be seen as inferior. So my dear, our cultures and traditions is not idol worshiping. It is who we are, our heritage, our identity, but it's a pity we are losing it too fast.

if idol worshiping was a good thing and had no negative effects on the worshipers, it wouldn't have been losing it's popularity. Just a point to ruminate on if you have the cells.

Na wettin dem talk, i mean those foolish christians and muslims

My culture rocks... Religion can go and hug transformer...

Thank God I'm a Christian

My dear, your question is very apt.

IT IS NOT IDOLATORY.

In my grandma's Village near Benin, only about 10 families had the Igue festival four days ago!

Igue is a centuries old thanksgiving festival to thank God, one's head/Ehi or what our Igbo cousins call "chi" for surviving through the year and to solicit for good health, good fortune and safety in the coming year..

Kola nuts, Coconut, a chicken, a guinea fowl, a goat or a cow can be used depending on pocket, status, etc.

There is no shrine involved in it.

The festival has been so popular that for the past 15 years or so, the festivities in Benin proper have been sponsored by WESTERN UNION money transfer. Lots of videos are on Youtube showing Royal Igue festival.

Our people, centuries back before Europeans & Arabs came, had enough presence of mind, intelligence and independence to study their lives, their environment and came up with life and religious philosophies that rivalled Western, Arab and Far Eastern philosophies.

Yet, within 200 years of proper Christianity and Islam in Nigeria, we have now rubbished the millennia old efforts of our ancestors.

Only to embrace philosophies that we don't even understand.

Sure, we could have evolved some of the practices to modern palatability/acceptability. Not wholesale rejection.

After all, Jesus Christ "evolved" the Law of Moses, to remove all those taboos, cadaveric offering of animals and others.

By the time we wake up from our deep sleep, all our identity will be gone and the West still won't take us seriously.

A people without identity are a people without direction, just floating in the wind, looking for acceptance.

I'm very open-minded about foreign ideas, but they are only ever useful if these ideas help and inspire me to understand myself, my environment and my own culture better, thereby strengthening my own identity.

If it's idolatry then halloween should be what?

When you talk about our culture we are talking about our deities which aren't related to God of the bible
So judge for yourself

This is as a result of massive brainwash of our people by criminal invader theologies which have beamed their lies on our culture and heritage and made them look negative even if that is not the case. I, sincerely, wait for the day many Nigerians will wake up and see these foreign lies and contraptions called christianity and islam for what they are. "The day a tree forget's it's roots, from that day the tree start's to die off" be WARNED AFRICANS, BE WARNED.

No, it's the oppressors and invaders that made us believe so in order to take them away from us to offer us artificial spirituality.

If you read the letter of King leopold to the Christian missionaries who came to Africa, there are some deep revelations there.

The book titled Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection talked on different account of explorers who came to Africa including mungo Park and stated it specifically that in a regions they visited and toured in Africa it is of knowledge to them that Africans worship one God who is the true God, the creator of heaven and earth.

Edwin Smith a Christian missionary who came to Africa in his book titled the golden stool wrote that "to win people for christ, it is necessary to europeanise them. The first method begins by destroying their institutions, tradition, culture, religion and habits of people and then super impose upon the ruins whatsoever"

I am more interested in Yoruba mythology than in reading the stories in the Bible.

Jesus is also an idol through another culture's perspective.

Funjosh:
*modified*

We dissociates ourselves from our cultural practice because of the fetish way of their worship, yet we still bear names (ogun, osun, oya, oje etc) that associate with these Idols SMH.

Because of western ideology, your forefather's gods are no longer relevant abi?

dublinkmy6:

if idol worshiping was a good thing and had no negative effects on the worshipers, it wouldn't have been losing it's popularity. Just a point to ruminate on if you have the cells.

can u tell me the negative impacts if you know of any?

THE FUTURE OF AFRICAN GODS - THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS


ACCRA - W.E.B. DU BOIS CENTER - JULY 10, 1998

by Professor Molefi Kete Asante


I am pleased that you have come to hear my lecture tonight and I want to thank the organizers of this event for their diligence and generosity. In particular I would like to publicly thank Dr. Kofi Anyidiho, and Executive Director Moore, the staff and the Board of the DuBois Center for making this occasion possible. I give praise to Nyame, Asase Yaa, and the Nananom nsamanfo for whatever clarity I am able to share with you.

I shall begin my lecture with a conclusion: Until an African leader publicly acknowledges, honors and prays to an African God, we Africans will continue to be viewed as pathetic imitators of others, never having believed in ourselves.

So powerful is the concept of religion when we discuss it in connection with civilization that to deny the validity of one's religion is to deny the validity of one's civilization. Indeed to deny one's religion as valid is to suggest that the person is a pagan, a heathen, uncivilized, and beyond the sphere of humanity. So to talk about religion is to talk about our views of ourselves, our understanding of our ancestors, and our love of our culture.
To establish my argument that we have a crisis in civilization because we have a crisis in religion I will make several points dealing with the themes of tradition, history, religion, and human action.

Traditions

There are no people without traditions and traditions are the lifeblood of a people. A people who refuse to express its love and appreciation for its ancestors will die because in traditions, if you are not expressing your own, you are participating in and expressing faith in someone else's ancestors. No person is devoid of an attachment to some cultural fountain. Whose water are we drinking?

Our African history has been a recent escapade of forgetfulness. We have often lost our memories and accepted the gods of those who enslaved and colonized us. This is something the Chinese and the Indians have fought hard to keep at bay. While we have often embraced our enemies' gods they have found those gods to be anathema to their interests. Show me the gods we Africans worship and I will show the extent of our moral and ethical decay.

Those who speak to us of Christian or Islamic morals have often been the very ones who had defiled our ancestors' memories and called out sacred rites paganism. Malcolm X once said that the world pushes the African around because we give the impression that we are chumps, not champs, but chumps, weaklings, falling over ourselves to follow other people rather than our own traditions.

The distribution of religion represents the distribution of power. African distribution is minimal and exists in a few places in the diaspora like Brazil, Haiti, Jamaica and the American South. The religion that people practice is based on the influences that have captured their imaginations. In the American South and the Caribbean and in South America one will often find the Yoruba religion. It is Africa's most powerful religious export to the Americas, but this is still a minimal influence when one considers the fact that others have imposed their religions on us and we have accepted the imposition often without a fight from our traditional leaders. Indeed our traditional religious leaders have often been hijacked by the material goods offered by the purveyors of these migrating gods.

History

The great African pharaoh, Menes, united the two lands (TAWY) bringing 42 clans or nomes under one government around 3100 B.C. By this time already Africans had formulated the first human response to the unknown. If anything we knew God before anyone else, not because we were wiser but because we were first to be civilized.


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Menes (or Narmer) First Dynastic Pharaoh of Egypt - 3100 BC


If you take any of the scientific reports we know that the first hominids were from Africa. Australopithecus afarensis is 4,200,000 years old and Australopithecus ramidus, 3,800,000. When Richard Johnason discovered Dinqnesh, later called Lucy, by the Europeans, he claimed to have found the earliest example of a hominid in Ethiopia. Until 75,000 years ago all humans were black. Did they have an appreciation for the almighty? Did they formulate a response to the unknown? Of course they did; they were human and human before anyone else.

Our ancestors brought forth the first civilizations and gave the world the oldest organized cosmological explanations. Thus, Ra as Ptah, Atum, Amen, Khepera, Khnum - the many names of the one, the Supreme, created Shu and Tefnut, air and moisture, Geb and Nut, earth and sky. Then came Ausar, Auset, Nebhet, and Set. Ausar was killed by his brother Set and Auset put him back together with the assistance of her sister, Nebhet and her son, Heru, who avenged his father by killing Set. This is the story of good over evil.

The purpose was to create Maat, balance, harmony, justice, righteousness, reciprocity, order. These are the key concepts in any ethical system and the fact that they emerged first in the Nile Valley of Africa suggests that other ideas, related to these ideas, found their way into the very practices and beliefs of our people throughout the continent. The deliberate attempt by the European to separate Africans from the classical civilizations of the Nile is one of the biggest falsifications in history. Only when we reclaim our history will we be able to see that the origins of many religious ideas are African. How is it that the parent has become the child?
Thus, not only do we have the earliest emergence of God, we have the first ethical principles, reinforced by proverbs, and refined in the oral and artistic traditions of our narratives.

The ancient name of Egypt was Kemet and it was the culmination of classical Africa's achievements in science, art, architecture, medicine, astronomy, geometry, and religion. The Greeks honored the Africans as the originators of the science and art practiced by the Greeks themselves. It would be the Europeans of the 15th through 19th centuries that would try to divorce Egypt from its African origin and deny Africa any role in civilizing the world.

The early Greek historian, Herodotus claims that nearly all of the Greek gods came from Africa. We know that the Greeks worshipped Imhotep as Aesclepius, the God of Medicine, and that the name Athens, Athena, is from Aten.

When Constantine in 325 A.D. took ideas from African spirituality and created a control mechanism at Council of Nicea he was trying to organize a system for using African spiritual ideas. The early Christian church had to deal with the fact that Christians had used many African ideas, the son of God, eternal life, and the resurrection, in their religion. The sad fact is that since we have forgotten so much we do not know that we are the originators of religion.

The abandonment of our history, indeed the abandonment of our gods, the gods of our ancestors, have brought us deep into the quagmire of misdirection, mis-orientation and self pity. When the missionaries forbade our shrines and punished us in the Americas when we called the names of our gods and sounded our mighty drums they were looking for the Pavlovian reaction they finally got in millions of Africans: African is bad, it is inferior, it is pagan, it is heathen. We often hear others cursing our ancestors in ways the Chinese, the Lebanese and the British would never allow. Why is this? Are we truly shamed by our military defeat? Can we no longer think about how right our ancestors were in exploring human nature and positing ways to combat the unknown? Cannot we create new forms out of the old mold or must we throw away the mold?

What would be anymore pagan than the wanton willful destruction of millions of Africans, Jews, Native Americans, and Chinese by Christian Europeans? How could white men pray to a god on the second floor of a slave dungeon while on the first floor they held our ancestors, yours and mine, in horrible bondage? What kind of religion denied our humanity at the same time they were ra-ping our women, brutalizing our children, and demanding our wealth and our souls?

It is true that the idea of Christian names or Muslim names promotes and advances those cultures. Why must you change your name even if you chose to buy into a foreign religion? What is wrong with your name? Any religion that asks you to do what others do not have to do is asking you to abandon your mother. The question is, why would you abandon your mother?

Religion in General

What is religion but the deification of ancestors, the making sacred of traditions within the context and history. How can we honor any god who was used against us? The only people who accept alien gods are defeated people; all others honor and accept their own name for the Almighty. We must learn to appreciate ourselves and our traditions. What is wrong with the African God?

What would we think of a Yoruba who accepted Chinese ancestors as his own? We would find it quite interesting and wonder how it came to be. But what of Africans' acceptance of others' gods? Is there no tradition with these alien gods? Of course there is tradition with these gods! To accept the Jews' god or the Arabs' god or the Hindu's god and so forth is to valorize those histories above your own. Indeed, it is to honor the names in those myths and stories higher than your own stories, it is to love the language, the places in their stories above your own. Why is Mecca, Rome, or Jerusalem more sacred than Bosumtwi? Quite simply, it is imperialism, not by force of arms, but by force of religion which sometimes comes armed.

Joel Kotkin's Tribes - a book about people ready for the 21st Century claims that only Jews, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, and British are ready. These groups have some commonalities which include (1) strong sense of identity, (2) international network, and (3) a passion for technology.

He does not include any African community or ethnic group. In fact, he believes that the African people were best organized under the leadership of Marcus Garvey who believed that Africans were not only capable of achieving without the whites; Africans had to achieve without whites in order to be seen as fully participating in the drama of history. Kwame Nkrumah believed in much the same idea.

Samuel Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations claims that there are six major civilizations: Chinese, Japanese, Orthodox, Hindu, Western, Islamic. He says each one has a nation that is vanguard, deeply committed to its religion and history. Africa has no such vanguard nation and furthermore Africa has yet to emerge from under the cloaks of its interventionists. Of 53 nations only one nation is more African in religion than either Christian or Muslim. That nation is small Benin.

Benin is 87% popular traditional African Religion. But it is a small nation with limited influence in a propaganda fashion. As such we do not expect African traditional religion to play a major part in the civilization of Africa for a long time to come, but we can begin to examine the questions, to raise the issues, and to interrogate our practices.

Let me explore African Religion with you to provide some common understanding.


African Religion

In the first place it is important that we call popular traditional African Religion everywhere by a common acronym, Ptare. This means that Akan, Yoruba, Igbo, Zulu and Shona are the same religion with different branches. Just as Christians may be Baptists, Methodists, and Catholics, and just as Muslims may be Mourrides, Sunni, or Shiities. There is no difference in speaking of Ptare as one religion and speaking of Christianity or Islam as one religion.

I believe that Popular Traditional African Religion everywhere (Ptare) is as old as civilization, indeed, it is much older than either Christianity or Islam. The major characteristics of Ptare are found in all of the traditions from East to West and from North to South. The fact that we have often misunderstood the legacy we have inherited is not the fault of those who left it; it is our fault for preferring the oppressors' legacy over that of our own ancestors.


The characteristics of Ptare include:

Creator God

Domicile of Gods - Presence, Shrine

Priest/Priestess of God

Devotee of God - medium (Noc??)

Herbalist - Pharmacist

Psychiatrist - mental harmonizer

Diviner - scientist, Hunter's/explorers

All ritual in Ptare seek a return to Maat.
Everything is one - we are a part of the whole and nothing is disconnected from the Almighty. That is why we recognize Mother Earth as well as Nyame.

What Europe sees and teaches as limitations in Ptare are really advantages:
No vast interpretative literary corpus to say what is and what is not - Ptare's interpretations are often dependent on a multitude of situations that demand attention.

No concentration on the material manifestations of the God's house. All temples started as shrines and from the shrine place people build other edifices. Buildings should have some historical or religious significance.


Advantages of Ptare

The ethical principles are more conducive to community, not so geared toward individualism. Some religions demonstrate their power by showing what they can build but this is only a matter of financial not moral wealth. Are you more civilized because you can build a nuclear bomb?

We must not be impressed by the things which can be created because we are human and have the same capacity and can create the same things out of our own minds. But our African gods do not advance destruction. They have never been gods of death, but of life.

The material manifestations of religion are not the wisest standard of how good God is unless your god is money. The new religions seem to bring schools and hospitals but we have always had those institutions without calling them by those names. Now it is time that the practitioners of Ptare explain the interrelationship of the traditions of ordinary life in the context of institutions. Our entire existence is religion. Our shrines are sacred places on sacred land given by the ancestors. Our health is interconnected to our spirituality.

We Africans have always believed in a supreme deity whether the name was Nyame, Oludumare, Abasi, Nkulunkulu, Woyengi, Chukwu, Mawu and Lisa. This is true although others have said we did not. They have confused a lot of us.

When the white missionaries translated the bible in our languages, they asked our ancestors for the name of the Almighty and they used the names our ancestors had always used for the Almighty and then told us that we did not have a belief in the Supreme.

But we now know that our priests were no less wise in their observations than the Greek sophists, the Hebrew prophets, the Arab ulema, and the Chinese literati.

Our ancestors believed in pluralism without hierarchy --- many expressions of God without saying mine is right, or the only one, and yours is bad, pagan, and heathen. Perhaps had we done that we would have stopped the alien religions at the shore, but we are the world's first humanists and we allowed others to come with their goods and their gods.

They came with a political ideology in the name of religion. It was imperialism. Imperialism brings destruction, obliteration. How could we fall for it for so long? The introduction of a book or a gun caused us to lose our footing, to stumble on our way, to denounce our fathers and mothers.

There are no other people on the earth who have had to denounce their ancestors in order to become better people. Is it because our ancestors are so strong that we are forced to denounce them before our conquerors? This is one thing you shall never find me doing because I know too much about my African contribution to history.


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Contributions of Ptare

The first naming of the divine, netcher, god, or netcheru divinity from which some say the English word nature is ultimately derived.

The first trinity: Ausar, Auset, Heru which has been repeated by Amen, Mut, Khonsu and then God, the father, God the son, God the holy spirit. The Christians took out the mother who represented Auset -and gave Christians a virgin Mary, but she was no god. Asase Yaa is Mother Earth, but no one can have a son without a mother.

The first idea of a son of god or a daughter of God. Sa Ra or Sat Ra.

The first black stone altars - long before the Kaaba was revealed at Mecca.

The first example of the resurrection from the dead Ausar. This is also where we find that the Neb Ankh- Lord of Life was not a sarcophagus, that is, not a flesh eater, but something that spoke of life.

The name of god Amen now used by others in their prayers.

The idea that your good should outweigh your evil, that your soul should be lighter than a feather, that perfection is not what is sought after, but overwhelming goodness.

The complementarity of males and females, different roles but not subjugation, Mawu and Lisa, male and female - Auset and Ausar, complementarity.

The first records of ancestors' wisdom. The books of Ptahhotep, Kagemni, Duauf.

The idea of heaven and earth, Nut , Geb, Auset is called, Lady of Heaven.

Here in Africa humans have prayed to God longer than on any other continent. When the pyramids were finished, Europe had given the world not one organized civilization, even Asia was just stirring. Just look at a broad chronology:

2500 B.C. - The African people along the river valleys of the eastern highlands floated
stones down the Nile to help build monuments to God.

2500 Hsia Dynasty rises in China.

2200 BC. Harrapa and Mohenjo Daro were found in India.

800 BC Homer is the first voice of the Greeks.

500 Romans come to power in Europe.

639 A.D. Arabs are able to cross into Africa with force under General El As from Arabia-Yemen.

Africans made the idea of the beautiful and the good one word nfr - nefer.

Ptare gave the world its first ethical system: Maat - balance, harmony, justice, righteousness, reciprocity, order - Maat was the only major deity without priesthood since all were priests of Maat.

The idea of eternal life - Ankh neheh was African.

The first libations, offerings and burning of incense as ritual forms.

The ten commandments were preceded by the 42 confessions in the Egyptian Book of the Dead or more accurately the Egyptian Book of the Coming Forth By Day.

Ptare gave the idea of collective and communal salvation rather than a rampant individualism which says save me and the rest of the world go to hell.


The Future

All futures are made by human beings. But they begin with consciousness which precedes Afrocentricity.
A few days ago I walked into a Kumasi restaurant and found that I could get Ghanaian food only by pre-arranged request. But western food was immediately available. Imported. Are African Gods only on request? We determine this by how we live.

The Wolof of Senegal say wood may remain in water for ten years but it will not become a crocodile. We live Africa by living its tried and true values and customs, and this is a credit to our gods. Almost all of the disarray in Africa can be traced to the disruption of the traditional religion. In fact, one can go from country to country and find that the cause of the problems can be laid at the feet of alien civilizations. This is not a wild statement; it is based on deep reflection and study.

I believe in the African gods and believe that just as we have exported our cultural forms in music, art and science, the world needs a more sane and sensible ethic.


What Must Be Done

We must talk honestly to our elders --- those who have not abandoned the traditions - consult the priests, learn from them, and discover the source of our problems.

Remove all images of a white Jesus. This is not correct even if one is Christian. The historical Jesus had be black in color despite the missionaries' attempt to paint him English and Swedish.

We must believe that our names are as sacred as Arabic or European names.

We must understand that when others extend their values, religion and institutions they are penetrating our traditions with the poison of alien power that teaches us to hate ourselves and to love our oppressors. Meanwhile, they never follow the prescriptions they leave for us.

We must enhance the economic, political and military power of African states because a lack of such power creates self doubt, identity crisis, and a search for the material gods of the west who seem to produce these things. But spirit is greater if we use it and we can only use it if we practice.

We need boldness from our leaders to accomplish this transformation.

The British called Harry Lee the best Englishman east of the British Isles when he finished Oxford. He changed his name, converted to Confucianism and they wondered what happened to him.

He learned Mandarin Chinese and became Lee Kuan Yew, a leader who rejected Western values.
Asians are calling for Confucianism as they emphasize tradition. The Japanese are calling for Nihonjinron, Japanese values. Why must we be stuck with the attitudes and values of the European, so-called Christian values, particularly since they have shown themselves to be bankrupt on many fronts.

We can achieve our aims not so much by modernizing African traditions as Africanizing modernity itself. We are the modern people. Our ecological values, relationships values, respect for others values are the keys to the future.


Conclusion

I recognize that humans cannot advance without answering some basic questions like, Who Am I? Why am I here? What is the purpose of existence? Who are we as humans, Africans, Ghanaians, Gas, Ewe, Guans, Akans, African Americans?

Religion provides compelling answers and often small communities of others who believe like we do. African deities and the Almighty God of Africa do that for us. They give us identity and direction.
We are the children of the Supreme God sustained by our ancestral connections, formed to glorify the best values of Maat, encouraged to assume responsibility for each other in a community of consciousness.

Failure to do this is a deviation, an abomination and we can only re-connect through rites of ablution--- making, doing or sacrificing time, money, energy in the name and interest of Africa. The concept of the gift is the idea, not what we give.

This may change given education, science, sensibility, scarcity, etc., but we need to sacrifice for Africa.
But our God must not be one of exploitation, egocentrism, conservatism and westernization. If so, we shall go to hell.

We must create our African personality and identity in art, dance, medicine, education, science, and religion, and if we cannot do it here in the land of Okomfo Anokye, Nkrumah and Du Bois, then it cannot be done in Africa.

If we do not do it here in the land of Yaa Asantewaa, then we can never be the hope of the hopeless.
If Africa cannot find its way, then I fear the prospects of the world.

But Africa will rise to throw off the vestiges of mental enslavement, and there shall be rejoicing among the Nananom nsamanfo. The ancestors will say: Rejoice! Rejoice! Let the Gods of Africa Rejoice!



Professor Molefi Kete Asante is the author of 42 books, more than 200 articles, the father of Afrocentricity, and the creator of the first doctoral program in African American Studies. http://www.asante.net/

This article was published courtesy of Dr. Molefi Kete Asante. Copyright © 1998 Dr. Molefi Kete Asante. All rights reserved by the author.

henryadex:
When you talk about our culture we are talking about our deities which aren't related to God of the bible
So judge for yourself

Thanks for admitting that your ''God of the bible'' is different from the Creator God of the universe known to our ancestors for thousands of years before the first christian was born. Say, where did your ''God of the bible'' come from?

Before the white man brought slavery and religion , it was a practice and a culture everyone adored , now everyone shouts Jeezus or Allah wu akbamb

Originality is lacking in Nigeria , but China has always been true to their culture

happykidArotiba:
no, it isn't

u must be an Ifa priest

[size=28pt]IDOLATRY?

WHAT RUBBISH!

IT IS THE GODS (Spiritual Forces) that are worshiped, not the image itself which just serves the function of a ritual object , just like a prayer mat or a holy-water sprinkler.

Anyways, as a free-born man from the Federal Republic of Nigeria, I DO NOT NEED ANY OYINBO/ARAB SLAVES TO TELL ME HOW I MUST CONDUCT WORSHIP OF MY GODS OR PRACTICE MY CULTURE IN MY OWN LAND!

F.VCK CHRISTIANITY.

F.VCK ISLAM.

F.VCK THOSE DEAD JEW WORSHIPERS AND PEDO.PHILE FOLLOWERS.

I would rather worship idols than commit sinful acts in Gods name lyk these foreign slaves..

AMEN.[/size]

DaBullIT:
Before the white man brought slavery and religion , it was a practice and a culture everyone adored , now everyone shouts Jeezus or Allah wu akbamb

Originality is lacking in Nigeria , but China has always been true to their culture

I think what China had to their advantage in keeping colonialists at bay was their huge, centralised Chinese dynasty/empire that covered a huge swathe of Chinese territory, unlike Africa that was splintered into much smaller political entities. Africa had no single unifying power to act as a bulwark against the colonialists, who simply picked off one territory after another before finally overunning the entire continent.

Whats idol worship? I think of it as the worship of a carven image. Believe me, i do not think some christian denominations are exonerated. Africans have been regrettably europanised!