Wot is wrong wit covering hair for at most few hours People shud stop dese deceits pls! Cover ur hair in God's presence!!! Simple!!! Must u show off outside and bring it to church too Cover ur hair! Its called Reverence!!!

Neplusultra:
Wot is wrong wit covering hair for at most few hours People shud stop dese deceits pls! Cover ur hair in God's presence!!! Simple!!! Must u show off outside and bring it to church too Cover ur hair! Its called Reverence!!!

NOTHING is wrong with it! NOTHING is right with it! Reverence is shown in many different ways in many different cultures.

If people worried more about what is in THEIR OWN hearts instead of what is on their neighbours head then they might be better Christians!

Do we go to Church to worship God or criticise your neighbour like some Pharisee?

KoloOyinbo:


We all stand naked in the eyes of God and ultimately he is the only one that matters!

It would be CULTURALLY disrespectful to your other congregation members (probably) but if your hearts are pure then that's fine.

I have heard of naked services (weddings etc) in nudist colonies and these are perfectly ok.

Please do NOT confuse respect with sin! I for one feel uncomfortable going to Church without a tie on but I don't think god really minds one way or the other!

See, if we get past our silly and parochial cultural nonsense then we can concentrate on the important things.

IF you are attending Church in the nudist Colony then I do suggest you lose the boxers!

Tufia!! My mama born me well

1 Corinthians 11:3-10New International Version (NIV)

3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels.

13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

I honestly wonder why people stress themselves over religion? All life ends one way wether born again or Muslim and that is six feet deep. What happens after that is none of your concern, cos no one has ever come back to tell us how far....

kikelomojessy:
1 Corinthians 11:3-10New International Version (NIV)

3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels.
13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

Some excellent quotes. Let us put them in context to [b]understand the message! Be respectful according to the social mores of the time/place and culture you are in.

(Guys please don't all rush to have your hair cut off! LOL)

Educated Christians all over the world are very aware of these verses but understand them enough not to worry about frivolous and trivia matters that have nothing to do with Christianity. See some excellent explanations further back in this thread.

If it was as simple as reading three verses and slavishly following them without thought why would the vast majority of Christians all over the world not blindly follow it?

efficiencie:


Wow bravo! You might as well say for satan loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life

covering as used in:

1Corinthians 11:5-6
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with
her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that
is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the
woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if
it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven,
let her be covered

is different CONTEXTUALLY from covering as used in:

1Corinthians 11:15
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

If you will not cover your head then shave your hair, but if you hair is long and you'll not want to shave it off for the glory it renders then cover it so that you prophesy and have power on your head...

No wonder we have a lot of lecturers of God but few men of God

Corinthians 11:14-15. pls... so that knowledge of what is therein can be manifest.

JesusisLord85:


You are not a follower of Christ if you keep not the commandments. You have simply formed an 'ideal' god in your mind who accepts everything about you.
Remove the scaled. Read the law and the prophets. You will know the personality of our God from there. And you will see no need to ask such questions. In fact, you will repent and circumcise your heart.

Shalom

"read the law..."? are christians still bound by the law? Grace nko?

JesusisLord85:




Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.


Oh shut up!

I ask again are Christians still bound by the law and not Grace? and if by the laws then which laws? and while you're shutting people up remember Ephesians 4:29.

MarieSucre:
"read the law..."? are christians still bound by the law? Grace nko?

Paul made clear this was advice NT the law.

Yes I know people keep quoting the SAME passages here. The explanation of those passage is contained in many posts within this thread.

You don't really need that explanation anyway. How could any responsible Christian actually consider that this silly issue had anything to do with Christianity and our Saviour? God has given us so much can we not return a little time to THINK about the meaning in the scriptures and what is the unchanging message throughout time and from culture to culture? Be respectful and modest in whatever manner is appropriate for your culture.

The Bible is not a fashion statement for one culture over another!

Cover or not is up to the individual. Perhaps if we spent less time quoting the Bible and actually read it and tried to understand it this silly and irrelevant confusion would not occur.

I do see the attraction in such a basic and literal interpretation but feel we should try and understand matters deeper.

Fortunately this is nothing that most Christians would worry about. Lets leave it to the fundamentalists who don't like to look very far for their meanings.

alayandekolasam:
With sincere respect to every contributions to this topic. However,Something should be of note:
1.The bible was not only written for the christians of 2000 years ago,it is written for christians of all generation. Every christian custom as laid down in the bible is suppose to be every christian custom.
2. Some bible guru(so called)attributing the responsibility and implications ofsome bible verses to the writer especially when it doesnt favor their worldly interests. No. The bible is God's own word only delivered to us through INSPIRED writters.
3.No matter how wayward the world has gone,GOD'S

My friend have you read some of the laws in the old testament? are you sure they are for our generation?

Stallione:
u cover ur hair as a woman inside the church as respect 2God and how Mary mother of jesus does.

Firstly Mary mother of Jesus did not cover her hair for religious reasons it was for environmental reasons. common jewish women and men put on head covering as protection for their scalp against the desert scorching sun and used the end that flapped down to protect their eye, nose and mouth from the granules that were whipped up from desert storms that are quite frequent whence it passed into cultural use like our traditional gele. women did not frequently put on veils to walk the streets. such continous depiction of Mary with a veil and also Jesus with long hair calls for inquisition and verification.

MarieSucre:
Firstly Mary mother of Jesus did not cover her hair for religious reasons it was for environmental reasons. common jewish women and men put on head covering as protection for their scalp against the desert scorching sun and used the end that flapped down to protect their eye, nose and mouth from the granules that were whipped up from desert storms that are quite frequent whence it passed into cultural use like our traditional gele. women did not frequently put on veils to walk the streets. such continous depiction of Mary with a veil and also Jesus with long hair calls for inquisition and verification.

Yes. I note the posters here somewhere quoted AGAINST a man having long hair!

Personally as an Irishman with very short hair and fair skin I wish I could cover MY head all the time in the African Sun!!!!

hotgunz:
why ignore verse 5, and jump to 15, tot in sch we were told it was, 12345...............10,11,12,14,15. S in order let take it 1 by1.

After verse 5 we should stop reading, hmmmnnn. After Genesis bible don end be dat? enough with the cherry-picking mister. verse 14 and 15 give verse 5 context.

todayguest:
fine contribution. However, if you love an uncovered hair, pls go and worship where it's allowed. Otherwise, you will be asked to cover your hair or provided with a cover.

It has been proven that this is not from the bible but a doctrine propagated by man and enforced by conservative zealots why encourage it. Be careful what you support in your zeal to be holier.

oabel:
Have we asked ourselves, the hair the writer is referring to? Not the Brazilian hair of this days. Who among our woman still has the original hair that she would not cover?besides, am not sure the writer is using Verse 15 to encourage us to leave it uncovered while praying. Because the writer was talking of honouring the man as well. Verse 7. That means the woman that covers her hair anywhere,anytime, also honour her husband.

Don't let us deceive ourselves, since woman find it difficult to shave her hair let it be covered. Verse 6
But it is honourable to cover while praying to respect GOD.

"you're not sure if the writer is using verse15 to encourage women to uncover her hair" pls i politely request you tell us what it is the writer is encouraging in verse 15.

Miscellaneous:


pick up your bible & read up 1corinthians 11:1-16 . . .you will get to understand better. . Dont be misled please.

For me women covering their hair is a must!
I know it sounds akward because of 'civilization' that is sweeping every section of human life. But civilization in christainity? Be careful!. . .

This same 'civilized individuals' asked us not to close our eyes when even praying because we are not in a shrine of some sort of juju stuffs where they close eyes but the presence of the lord where we are free with him & that those times of closing eyes are gone. Can u imagine?!

in other words, you are going to disregard what the bible has written down? hmmmnn. keep leaning on your own understanding. plus you're even a man sef. ha! nawa o!

Orosotare:
It is writen in the bible that a woman should cover her hair why praying

Head not hair. verse15.

When it comes to what the bible says, ε̲̣̣̣̥ humans choose the ones that suits us to follow. Most of us can't do or practice 6 of God's commandment, but wit God giving us insight and diligence ε̲̣̣̣̥ will start practicing His will.
Most of our pastors omit som crucial issues that are suppose to be taught in churches and instead move to topics that won't annoy any member.
I dnt blame people cos there is difference btw ignorance and knowledge.

KoloOyinbo:


Some excellent quotes. Let us put them in context to understand the message! Be respectful according to the social mores of the time/place and culture you are in.

(Guys please don't all rush to have your hair cut off! LOL)

Educated Christians all over the world are very aware of these verses but understand them enough not to worry about frivolous and trivia matters that have nothing to do with Christianity. See some excellent explanations further back in this thread.

If it was as simple as reading three verses and slavishly following them without thought why would the vast majority of Christians all over the world not blindly follow it?

Esdb3:
I knew you were heretic....Because the bible says so dumb-ass and don't mislead people.... I just sit watch and laugh at y'all atheists,dstv pple remving God's name that person of a pope accepting the evolution theory into the church.....I sit and wait for he who rides the clouds.

Ephesian 4:29.

MarieSucre:
in other words, you are going to disregard what the bible has written down? hmmmnn. keep leaning on your own understanding. plus you're even a man sef. ha! nawa o!

please, what exactly are you aiming at? I seem not to understand you.

MarieSucre:
Head not hair. verse15.

All the posts keep going over the SAME points.

The fundamentalists quoting literally and out of context to get us follow a SOCIAL convention no longer relevant to man.

Those who try and understand the deeper means but are exasperated by the failure of our brothers and sisters to understand the message.

Please realise the rest of Christianity the world over is looking at you!!!!

HawtMummie:



If only Christian women can emulate Mary, the Mother of Jesus.....scarf, veil, gowns..e no to hard now..personally I prefer such attires. it's not meant for Muslims alone. In the history of Christianity, that has been the mode of dressing.

Is that all? why don't we all pack our bags and move to Israel. 21st century christians and plenty orisirisi!

MarieSucre:
Head not hair. verse15.

you seem hinged on some kind of rusted iron.

To be very clear, I want to believe you attend a church where women dont cover hairs so you are hinged to church not to the bible. Read that bible verse, come here, narrate what you read here in your own understanding and behold, if u still say wat u said above u need help. . . I can deliver u then.

kikelomojessy:
When it comes to what the bible says, ε̲̣̣̣̥ humans choose the ones that suits us to follow. Most of us can't do or practice 6 of God's commandment, but wit God giving us insight and diligence ε̲̣̣̣̥ will start practicing His will.
Most of our pastors omit som crucial issues that are suppose to be taught in churches and instead move to topics that won't annoy any member.
I dnt blame people cos there is difference btw ignorance and knowledge.

Hence the importance of actually THINKING and indeed following our conscience.

We KNOW when we have sinned and done wrong and a mere hair covering or otherwise is irrelevant.

What verse 3-10 means is when ever a woman is praying , her hair should be covered.

Verse 15 : her hair is provided as a covering, simply means since its her natural hair she does not need to cover it always but during prayer its a must.

But come to think of it, how many Africa can proudly show off their hair without wigs, attachment etc? §Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ during prayer it must be covered.

Miscellaneous:


you seem hinged on some kind of rusted iron.

To be very clear, I want to believe you attend a church where women dont cover hairs so you are hinged to church not to the bible. Read that bible verse, come here, narrate what you read here in your own understanding and behold, if u still say wat u said above u need help. . . I can deliver u then.

what do you make of verse 15. should we chuck it in the waste bin because it does not conform to your perspective or the age-long traditions followed by your church which are clearly shown through that verse to be unbiblical. again, what do you make of verse 15?

KoloOyinbo:


Yes. I note the posters here somewhere quoted AGAINST a man having long hair!

Personally as an Irishman with very short hair and fair skin I wish I could cover MY head all the time in the African Sun!!!!

Some christians can be funny at times. The 'long hair ish' is still another matter. Paul could make such statements because he was directing it to semitic women who could grow long hair. For crying out loud a woman used her hair to wipe Jesus feet! Do you know how hard and tenous it is to grow negro hair? some of us can't even use our hair to tickle our eyebrows. as our people say--'abeg leave matter for Martha'.

MarieSucre:
Some christians can be funny at times. The 'long hair ish' is still another matter. Paul could make such statements because he was directing it to semitic women who could grow long hair. For crying out loud a woman used her hair to wipe Jesus feet! Do you know how hard and tenous it is to grow negro hair? some of us can't even use our hair to tickle our eyebrows. as our people say--'abeg leave matter for Martha'.

Yes thanks, I do know! lol

I may be an Oyinbo but my fiancée is an Edo babe. I just love the way Naija babes change their hair so frequently and to so many differing styles. It is just having a new gf every month or so and yet you can stay with the babe of your dreams!

MarieSucre:
I ask again are Christians still bound by the law and not Grace? and if by the laws then which laws? and while you're shutting people up remember Ephesians 4:29.

You should not have asked. I will answer you. Those who follow Yahshua keep the law. It is your large cult, which started in rome, that teaches otherwise.

And here is a thread to help:
https://www.nairaland.com/1873588/gods-laws-commandments-done-away

Also, in the Kingdom, we shall be keeping the law and the feast days. Are you ready?

JesusisLord85:


You should not have asked. I will answer you. Those who follow Yahshua keep the law. It is your large cult, which started in rome, that teaches otherwise.

And here is a thread to help:
https://www.nairaland.com/1873588/gods-laws-commandments-done-away

Also, in the Kingdom, we shall be keeping the law and the feast days. Are you ready?

The law, the law. The Pharisee and the law!

How can anyone who has looked into their heart and prayed believe that such primitive trivialities actually matter. Thank God such silly irrelevancies are confined to a few (hopefully well meaning) groups usually in the less advanced parts of the world.

I am reminded of the Amish in America who drive horse buggies etc and live as if it was the late 1700's. Mostly good people I am sure but such poor understanding!