We are busy here....

Doing what we always do. .....

With the same set of boys that understands what is at stake......

And so we set out to do........

Gbam!! the reality of the situation in Niger is...in most cases "gate men" double as gate openers, compound cleaners, security personnel, errand boys etc

spyder880:
Haba You guys dont seem to understand why we have gatemen here but una get janitors in residential properties over there? Its almost the same functions except that here in Nigeria the guys open and close gates in addition.

Well I understand your points and true, there are very good ideas you have on the alternatives but in Nigeria here, the security situation is bad. Lots of petty stealing especially when you are away from home. People like to employ a gate man to look after the compound when people are at work.

My client that owns this house had to frown over the size of the first gate house I built here, he ordered that I reduce the size to what we have now.

Exhibition quality works

I have bought and mounted a thunder arrestor on the top of this roof
Our security man post is ready for roofing wood works. ......

spyder880:
We are busy here....

I like seeing this.

On my build I would only need a clear coat finish at this point and I'll be done with "painting"..

I'm happy to see this level of detailed workmanship.

Say Spyder, can your guys, on the outside finish, draw pictures of bigger bricks on the finish before it dries?

spyder880:
I have bought and mounted a thunder arrestor on the top of this roof
Our security man post is ready for roofing wood works. ......

What are the measurements of the "security Man's" structure?

CityNG:


I like seeing this.

On my build I would only need a clear coat finish at this point and I'll be done with "painting"..

I'm happy to see this level of detailed workmanship.

Say Spyder, can your guys, on the outside finish, draw pictures of bigger bricks on the finish before it dries?

Bros I hail! So you sef dey take lecture from oga spyder880 hands?

I also dey follow him with style.
Meanwhile, I have something in the pipeline for you. When I'm back to my Abuja office/design studio next month, I'd show them to you.

lomomike:


Bros I hail! So you sef dey take lecture from oga spyder880 hands?

I also dey follow him with style.
Meanwhile, I have something in the pipeline for you. When I'm back to my Abuja office/design studio next month, I'd show them to you.

Thanks Mike.

CityNG:


I like seeing this.

On my build I would only need a clear coat finish at this point and I'll be done with "painting"..

I'm happy to see this level of detailed workmanship.

Say Spyder, can your guys, on the outside finish, draw pictures of bigger bricks on the finish before it dries?

We have been doing that since a long time ago.......

CityNG:


I like seeing this.

On my build I would only need a clear coat finish at this point and I'll be done with "painting"..

I'm happy to see this level of detailed workmanship.

Say Spyder, can your guys, on the outside finish, draw pictures of bigger bricks on the finish before it dries?

Same boys doing this marking on the outside columns are the same boys working with me in this house now.

spyder880:


We have been doing that since a long time ago.......

How can I forget this house, sorry, mansion

This is exactly what I want my exterior to look like but with no paint, just clear coat.

Excellent. You have it all covered.

Getting additional supplies of soft sand......

Already roofing the gate house,

@Spyder880,
An architect in Owerri gave me a quote of 265,000 naira for a two story, 6×3 bedroom flats building plan. According to the architect, it includes the following:

Structural plan
Electrical plan
Mechanical plan (I have never heard of mechanical plan)
4D diagram (not sure if 4d exist. I am aware of 3d's only)
Estimate of construction cost list stage by stage.

Dont you think that the quote is expensive?
Dont you think that the only thing that I need is the structural and electrical plan?

ARROBA:
@Spyder880,
An architect in Owerri gave me a quote of 265,000 naira for a two story, 6×3 bedroom flats building plan. According to the architect, it includes the following:

Structural plan
Electrical plan
Mechanical plan (I have never heard of mechanical plan)
4D diagram (not sure if 4d exist. I am aware of 3d's only)
Estimate of construction cost list stage by stage.

Dont you think that the quote is expensive?
Dont you think that the only thing that I need is the structural and electrical plan?

I was quoted N400k for a 2,000 square foot bungalow in Ibadan - lol

CityNG:


I was quoted N400k for a 2,000 square foot bungalow in Ibadan - lol

Is that expensive or just about right for that sqt?

Empiree:
Is that expensive or just about right for that sqt?

It doesn't matter to me as I'm never paying that for sure.

CityNG:


It doesn't matter to me as I'm never paying that for sure.

I thought you paid that

ARROBA:
@Spyder880,
An architect in Owerri gave me a quote of 265,000 naira for a two story, 6×3 bedroom flats building plan. According to the architect, it includes the following:

Structural plan
Electrical plan
Mechanical plan (I have never heard of mechanical plan)
4D diagram (not sure if 4d exist. I am aware of 3d's only)
Estimate of construction cost list stage by stage.

Dont you think that the quote is expensive?
Dont you think that the only thing that I need is the structural and electrical plan?

It sounds a little high, but it depends on how tasking your building plans are. I have seen building plans that took months to complete, with constant adjustments and inclusion of more features by the owner.

CityNG:


I was quoted N400k for a 2,000 square foot bungalow in Ibadan - lol

Sorry bro, 400K for plan design only or building supervision inclusive?

lomomike:


Sorry bro, 400K for plan design only or building supervision inclusive?

Bros, let's not see this design thing as a simple work. There are some houses that takes a very long time to design, not the usual run of the mill buildings we have in Nigeria. You can see that our friend CityNG is sophisticated when it comes to building choices, do you think he will accept just any plans that may have been dubbed from that building standing on every street with two pillars standing in front as usual?

I have stayed near home designers and they flip a lot of things around till the client is satisfied. Some plans could be worth more than N400k to design. I know a client that worked on his building design with his architect for six whole months, with countless revisions. Some clients know what they want and cannot accept anything else.

spyder880:


Bros, let's not see this design thing as a simple work. There are some houses that takes a very long time to design, not the usual run of the mill buildings we have in Nigeria. You can see that our friend CityNG is sophisticated when it comes to building choices, do you think he will accept just any plans that may have been dubbed from that building standing on every street with two pillars standing in front as usual?

I have stayed near home designers and they flip a lot of things around till the client is satisfied. Some plans could be worth more than N400k to design. I know a client that worked on his building design with his architect for six whole months, with countless revisions. Some clients know what they want and cannot accept anything else.

Oga, you've helped me clarify issue for him properly, I wanted to find out the what services he requested for before asking about the complexity of design, nature of topography, and duration and type of research+ design and build. Hence my little question.

Truth is, various factors command varied price quotation. I for one can't go to North Eastern Nigeria to design and build at this troubled moment and I'll charge cheaply, neither would I go to a marshy/swamp region and charge cheap.

lomomike:


Oga, you've helped me clarify issue for him properly, I wanted to find out the what services he requested for before asking about the complexity of design, nature of topography, and duration and type of research+ design and build. Hence my little question.

Truth is, various factors command varied price quotation. I for one can't go to North Eastern Nigeria to design and build at this troubled moment and I'll charge cheaply, neither would I go to a marshy/swamp region and charge cheap.

Mike there was never any confusion that needed clarification, my older Brother is an Architect here who owns a successful and award winning agency and I grew up with him plying his trade. I'm not green when it comes to architect stuff. He would actually draw my plans but that topography thing is the deal killer. He is a conceptual architect and won't put pencil to paper until he sees the land and the survey. Hence why I need someone in Nigeria.

All I want is an Architect not a Project Manager as I intend to be the General Contractor on my build. I would most certainly be arriving with building plans and would just really need a Nigerian Architect to "Nigerianise" the plan.

My requirements are really very simple. 3 boxes (private, semi private and public areas), enclosing either an internal or external outdoor space. 4 bedrooms, one is the master - a very very generous one, one bedroom is ensuite for guests and the other two sharing a jack and jill bathroom, open floorpan that puts the kitchen, formal and casual living room in one open space. No ensuite all over the place, not one single pillar on the premises and not one round surface. I will need all the drawings and then a few Architect visits onsite to make sure that the design are being followed. There should be no design changes during the build as I will pour over the plans and I have very clear and specific idea in mind. Design changes are expensive, slows down the space and generally have a bad cascading effects downrange.

I am a very good potential client to any Architect, I know exactly what I want and what I don't want, and just needs him to wear an Architect hat.

spyder880:


Bros, let's not see this design thing as a simple work. There are some houses that takes a very long time to design, not the usual run of the mill buildings we have in Nigeria. You can see that our friend CityNG is sophisticated when it comes to building choices, do you think he will accept just any plans that may have been dubbed from that building standing on every street with two pillars standing in front as usual?

I have stayed near home designers and they flip a lot of things around till the client is satisfied. Some plans could be worth more than N400k to design. I know a client that worked on his building design with his architect for six whole months, with countless revisions. Some clients know what they want and cannot accept anything else.

My Oga, so one of the benefits of the hard work (and I know it's hard to take pictures and post them and share data like you do) is that I as your student is learning on your threads. I am sure that many others are learning too.

Unless something goes terribly wrong then I don't foresee changing a good plan that an Architect and I come up with before we put shovel to ground.

Like you said, the drawings may be N400k or less or more.

lomomike:


Sorry bro, 400K for plan design only or building supervision inclusive?

I don't need building supervision from an Architect. Just the drawings and guidance on getting the proper approvals.

I'll be the General Contractor, activities onsite will only occur when I am home. Will take longer for sure but I need to be there with the artisans to make sure that there is no opportunity for "will clean it up during finishing". No, we'll build it properly now with pride of workmanship.

CityNG:


I don't need building supervision from an Architect. Just the drawings and guidance on getting the proper approvals.

I'll be the General Contractor, activities onsite will only occur when I am home. Will take longer for sure but I need to be there with the artisans to make sure that there is no opportunity for "will clean it up during finishing". No, we'll build it properly now with pride of workmanship.

I am thrilled whenever I hear/see someone who is versatile someone with vast skills/experience in various areas. It gives me encouragement to learn much more. God bless you oga Cityng



Meanwhile this thread is interesting. Oga spyder when I grow up I wan be like you o. Bless you oga spyder

lomomike:

Meanwhile this thread is interesting. Oga spyder when I grow up I wan be like you o. Bless you oga spyder

You are not going to be the only one.. I am still growing too!

Hajji M.

Almost done with the roofing wood works here, all other works ongoing smoothly. ......

spyder880:


It sounds a little high, but it depends on how tasking your building plans are. I have seen building plans that took months to complete, with constant adjustments and inclusion of more features by the owner.

Thanks Oga Spyder880, what I requested is something similar to the picture attached.

But does a building plan comprises also of mechanical drawing\plan?
I am only aware of structural and electrical plans\drawings. I have never heard of mechanical drawing.

I need answers please.