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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:06pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli:If only some of the legislators will shun tribal and partisanship in the PIB, it would have been passed since 2009. The Problem we have with people like you is that you know what is on ground but wants to play smart. The President equally made statement on FOI and did within 24hours of being presented. You chose to avoid that because it won't help your argument. The PIB is a problem of the NASS, the question is what has APC legislators done to get it passed. I won't want to hit on the main opposition of the bill so as not to appear tribal. As for the confab, it will be implemented except you guys choose to play politics again 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Change2015(m): 7:06pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: You are the political novice here. A two-thirds majority is only required to pass a bill that the president has vetoed (override the veto). Otherwise a simple majority will suffice! #change #GMB #APC 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by ochejoseph(m): 7:06pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli I am very disappointed by the fact that you seem not to have a clue about the functions of the different arms of government ! I will try my best to educate you and hope you don't reciprocate with your regular insults which has become the hallmark of the APC both on and Off line 1. It it the duty of the president or any other citizen to sponsor or send a Bill to the National assembly for consideration and possible passage into Law! 2 after the submission the only other input the public or the president can make is when the relevant house committee calls for public hearing 3. After the public hearing and presentation of reports and clause by clause consideration of the bills as well as other legislative process the Bill will only be returned to the president when it has ben passed by both house and Harmonised with a clean copy sent for assent The President sponsored the Bill, the Minister of Petroleum has made several presentations on why the National assembly needs to pass the Bill GEJ cannot be President ,National assembly and Judiciary all at the same time On the Confab report Many recommendations do not require amendments to Law, or the passage of new laws this the president can do by exercising his executive powers after due consideration of the matter in question Examples of such recommendations 1. Return of mission schools forcefully taken over by the federal and state Govt 2. Mayoral status for FCT 3. Cancellation of Severance package and life insurance for legislators and others 3 Likes |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:08pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli has nothing to say joor... customized13: 2 Likes |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:08pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: Why did he promise that the bill will be passed when its beyond him. Naive question, how was the National Assembly involved in drafting the confab report? 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Clerverly: 7:08pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: Have you seen, you are not as intelligent as people thought. Since you shifted to the. other side of divides, your intellectual emptiness and hollowness is now very obvious!! So because everybody was involved, it won't to go the NASS for debate? Even your jonathan has said in numerous occasions, he would send the report to the National Assembly for debate and passage, but here you just want to hang on to a faulty position. Please dust up the constitution and re-read without TAN eyeglasses! 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:09pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Change2015:Which constitution are you reading? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:10pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista:I believe i answered your question with the US/UK example. Obamacare for instance |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by ogmask: 7:10pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
CyberWolf: PDP had the muscles to implement the PIB befor the movement of the govrs and legislators. Why ddnt he lobby them to do it. On confab, ddnt GEJ know that he will not be able to unilaterally implement the confab report befor embarking on the venture? What an excuse. Gej and his team would rather spend time they would have used to lobby for passage to run down percievd enemies Obiageli is spot on here. |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Change2015:go read ya govt bro, wen does d president exercise d veto power ? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli:The NASS sent delegates to the Confab and had lots of imput. Maybe you need to look at the composition of Confab members. You think they were there to sell kulikuli? It seems you assume that the Confab is like the regular parliamentary bill. 2 Likes |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:14pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
ochejoseph: My brother don't teach me how government works, this thread questions credibility rather than process. Why the did the president promise that the PIB law would be passed (except was clueless about government) Why is he promising to implement the confab that requires the same process as the PIB? I think you should save your lectures for the president. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista:bros, you don see am na? APC style, always playing the blame game without proffering solutions. 3 Likes |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:16pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: The Petroleum committee of the house of assembly wasn't part of the PIB? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:17pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Clerverly:When someone goes out of logical argument they resort to name-calling. Well I will pretend I didn't see it! The NASS sent delegates for the Confab, they were not there for a tea party. The President only need their endorsement or resolution. It is not a regular bill that will require formal readings upon readings(except they have any plans to modify it). But again your insults makes you appear like a deranged fellow which I hope you are not. Thanks for the time 2 Likes |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Almightyperes: 7:18pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
I don't really have much info on the where about of the PIB but the south west leaders believe GEJ is more approachable in dealing with than GMB. Since GEJ is the approval of the CONFAB he will still implement it 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:19pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli:no they weren't. The President's team drafted the bill and sent to the parliament. The NaSS Committees are not part of the executive but legislators. They weren't part of the draft. 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Ngwakwe: 7:20pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
The Speaker has already promised last Monday to do everything within his power to work with his colleagues in the HOR to get the bill passed before the conclusion of seventh Assembly. GEJ has already made the last minute deal to lobby the NASS to get the job done. Just wait and see. The only enemy against the passage of the bill is minority leader cum Mr oppose everything from GEJ. Obiagelli: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by deeptechcool(m): 7:21pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
LRNZH: Jonathan is the true dèfinition of a lie. Only saTANs believe him though. 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:22pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
customized13:My brother, me sef tire o. Instead of them to tell their party men in the house to expedite action on the bill, they are blaming someone that had no vote in parliamentary decision. Nothing we no go see for naija. Next them go blame PEJ for the failure of Fashola to implement FOI 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Clerverly: 7:23pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: There is no short cut in passage of bills (be it executive, legislative or private member bill) in the National Assembly except you are talking about motions! It must pass through the stages and accented to or vetoed!! So learn and stop running round faulty lines! Good night! 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by deeptechcool(m): 7:24pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Ngwakwe: The question is, why is GEJ campaigning with something beyond his absolute control? Is GEJ now 'Mr Speaker' you put up there? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:24pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Ngwakwe:Now a honest man's response. He should ensure that the PIB is passed before promising us confab. |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:26pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Ngwakwe:My brother, I tire o. The Speaker was only playing to the gallery. The Senate problem is what I don't understand. This NASS to me are not different from their predecessors. When Musa Yaradua sent the bill, Mark and Tambawal promised to pass it before 2010. We are in 2015 and the same promise. 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by PhockPhockMan: 7:27pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli:I thought you're wise and knowledgeable, now I know I'm wrong. Do you know the president’s effort in making sure the bill is passed, yet the enemies of progress in the house of Representatives led by tambuwal stalled it. That was one of the reasons he insisted on Mulikat Akande as Speaker in order to have smooth sail. In this case you're telling me that Buhari's plan to fight corruption is an effort in futility since he knows that he can't do it without judicial. During Jonathan rally in lagos, he asked the Yoruba to vote PDP lawmakers for smooth sailing of the bill. So, he's not deceiving anybody. 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:28pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli:How will he ensure that? He should takeover the powers of legislators or how exactly? 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:31pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Barcanista Sen. Udoma Udo Udoma heads the task force as Chairman. Other members of the eight-man body are Sen. Tunde Ogbeha, Sen. Emmanuel Agboti, Sen. M. T. Liman, Hon. Chibudom Nwuche, Hon. Abdullahi Gumel, Hon. Habeeb Fashinro; and Comrade Peter Esele, President, Trade Union Congress. www.nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/342/FG-inaugurates-Special-Task-Force-on-PIB.aspx This is as far back as January 2012, so don't tell us the Senate had no inputs |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by VolvoS60(m): 7:32pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: ^^^^ The bolded part of your post got my attention. Perhaps you should have used the word 'lot' instead of the word 'little'. I marvel at how GEJ could whip the party faithful into line when it came to endorsing his candidacy and ensuring he ran unopposed at last year's party primaries. Yet GEJ cannot muster support for a life changing bill like the PIB despite a party majority in both Houses. Private interests trumping national interests? Perhaps you can educate me on any far reaching executive sponsored bill that has been passed into law in the past 4 to 6 years? And please do not mention the FOI bill. Although I give GEJ some credit for signing that bill (compare his speedy assent to the pig headed obstinacy of OBJ - a man who clearly wanted total freedom to run his corrupt and fraudulent government without any external scrutiny ), it should not be forgotten that the FOI bill was sponsored by an opposition lawmaker. (I must digress at this point and state my complete revulsion and disgust at APC governors who have refused to sponsor or assent to FOI bills at the state level. Is this not the meaning of hypocrisy and confusion? ). As things stand, I am not aware of any 'signature' legislation (as Mr. Soludo would put it) that the GEJ administration can boast of. Without any groundbreaking legislation passed then what platform will the so-called 'institution building' (which we have heard so much about) rest on? If GEJ isn't re-elected next month then what exactly will we say his legacy is? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:32pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
barcanista: Do you understand the word lobby? How was Obamacare passed? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by OLADD: 7:32pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Every aspirant to any political office always tie their campaign to one selling point or the other and that's the norm the world over. Is it not ironic that Buhari is still going about using corruption as his campaign gimmick having hinged the reason for his coup in 1983 on same corruption? |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by PhockPhockMan: 7:33pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
CyberWolf:Don't mind the HYPOCRITES, you're on point. 1 Like |
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:34pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
CyberWolf:well, we have no choice but to "manage" Confab |
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