prettysheila:
It has been said that the soul belongs to God while the spirit belongs to man.if u agree with that proposition.Then,can you explain the basis of your argument?

rubbish go ask your Islamist people, eg Osama bin ladin,abadadi,Taliban, all qidah, shekau

abkay:


Please has anyone seen a soul or spirit before or do we just believe what was handed to us by religion.. Personally I dont believe in spirits or souls. The human body as we know it is all it is. If i had a soul or spirit i should have been able to feel it or interact with it somehow . It should have warned me ahead of impending happenings or given me eztra powers to do things ..

Have u inflated anything before? Balloon, tyres, liferack, lifejacket etc. Im sure u have. Did they swell and take shape? Have u had an errection before? Did it take shape? Are you alive? Yes you are. Do you breath in and out? U have spirit.

Did u think before you wrote your post? Yes you did. You are a living soul. Do u worry, cry, love, hate, plan etc. YOU ARE A LIVING SOUL.

Do you dream? Can u somehow predict the future based on information? You are a living soul.z

leke12:
Hmm!nice thread. But just want you to knw this: there are billions of soul(breath of God) that exist in various forms(man,animals,plants,demi-gods,gods,entities,any living being), the soul lives forever because its directly from GOD,a part of GOD(that is why we are called sons,daughters and slaves of GOD depending on ur religion) and they exist in different places and levels with different consciousness but there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT. The spirit create all souls,it is a FORCE,a force use by the supreme God to create all heavens,planets, IT connect all living beings. The spirit is the voice of God, it expresses ITSELF through light(eg sun) or sound(eg.wind,thunder). Some religion know it as holy spirit(Christianity),word,ECK(ECKankar),pavitr Atma(hindu), faithful spirit(islam),sangha(Buddhism) and some call it 'mother nature'. It doesn't matter which name u call it but main it is to know it is the LIFE FORCE(use by Supreme God) that create and sustain all no matter which body form you are, it is the VOICE OF GOD. That's is why when u are dead doesn't mean all it finish,u simply translate to another form of existence according to ur akashic record.

your theory about soul and spirit is interesting.Can you explain the concept of Evil spirit.the spirit you explain according to your theory is perfect and flawless.Explain this

ramalot:


That is a major logical fallacy.

"Predestination" and "free will" ARE mutually exclusive.

Let all d Prophets in d world tell you u re going 2 be great, and u just sit down doing nothing,u ll see dat ur predestination hangs on ur free will. Think man

prettysheila:
It has been said that the soul belongs to God while the spirit belongs to man.if u agree with that proposition.Then,can you explain the basis of your argument?

@ Prettysheila, the soul, mind, spirit and body are different things. The soul is immortal and reincarnates until it attains perfection, But, the spirit is in everything, living and perhaps non-living too. At transition which the uninitiated calls death the soul is liberated from the individual as the astral cord is severed. It hovers around especially the earth bound souls that enjoyed the pleasures of the flesh while on planet earth. It returns to earth again and again to until it attains perfection or Christ consciousness and becomes a living MASTER. B/c of the pleasures of the earth it difficult attaining so. I'll encourage u without sentiments to read the following books: A thousand years of yesterday and Mansions of the souls(Cosmic conception). Forget about the author. Also, look for Aquarian gospel of Jesus The Christ of the Piscean age,u'll understand more on our individual missions on earth.
Hope I didn't confuse u. Happy Sunday(in honour of Roman god of Sun)

The spirit and the body made up the soul, in order words the combination of both the spirit and the body refer to the soul

I believe you are talking about aura. I'm sure I read about it in one of Lobsang Rampa's books.

prettysheila:
Based on my research that there are several electrical impulses going on d body.from the brain to the eyes and all other parts of the body.The indians believed that humans av different colours of electrical impulse in there brain.the blue colour is evll,the sinners,the red colour is for the lustful ones while the lilac colour is for the righteous ones.then,wats your argument on this?justify your argument

Why do you want to know. ?

Can you recognize soul and spirit if you see one ?

Pictures or...

lafredo:
your theory about soul and spirit is interesting.Can you explain the concept of Evil spirit.the spirit you explain according to your theory is perfect and flawless.Explain this

hmm! Evil spirit is a term for negative entities, they aren't 'spirit', people term them that name because u can't see dem with d physical eyes unless they want u to. They are beings(souls) that work for the kal force in a more higher consciousness,these entities can be Divas,angels,demi-gods and elementals,etc, they exists in different regions or heavens. In these lower heavens beings exist in two dimensions: positive and negative,male and female,high and low because of the existence of the kal(devil)force. So that's why we have both postive and negative entities which people term as good or evil spirit. This entities are souls too,they once exist as either(human,animal or higher or lower body). Example: sango or ogun or osun(using my immediate environment example) was once a human being soon they translated and evolve into a demi-god which people are worshiping them till date, and they respond to their need. Imagine if their were in hell how will they be helping their followers till now. Achieving this stage of spirituality doesn't relate to ur religion. People who were able to achieve some level of spirituality will come and start what will call religion.

philfearon:
From the op to the last person above me,you all are posting pure ignorance with no atom of truth whatsoever!!
Why not just keep mute on things you know nothing about!!
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Most people confuse the spirit with soul,and don't even know what the soul is..They say when you die,your soul goes back to its creator..Like seriously? So where does the spirit itself go?
What most people confuse themselves to be the "soul" is just the "human spirit"..
Now,the "soul" is the human person.It is the individual characteristics that makes you what you are.The soul is each persons personality embodied in his DNA and differentiates the person from another.. The soul is you and you are soul,in other words,That uniqueness in you which you can't share with anyone else..
In a nutshell,The soul is the individual personality or characteristics embodied in you and shared only by you...
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When a person dies,His spirit moves on,not his soul..The soul only comes alive when the individual is "living"...
The soul is just your human signature for recognition!!

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prettysheila:
It has been said that the soul belongs to God while the spirit belongs to man.if u agree with that proposition.Then,can you explain the basis of your argument?

Who told u?
Spirit is the God in u "His breath of life"
While the Soul (the one to be judged) ur representative to Him
Body is the earth or sand, this one no dey go beyong this earth.

ramalot:


It's appears you do not have a full grasp on the concepts of "free will" and "destiny."

You can NOT be standing and seated at the same time.

Again, mutually exclusive.

Mr mutually exclusive xplain ooooo. I still maintain predestination is a function of free will.

ramalot:


It's appears you do not have a full grasp on the concepts of "free will" and "destiny."

You can NOT be standing and seated at the same time.

Again, mutually exclusive.

Mr mutually exclusive xplain ooooo. I still maintain predestination is a function of free will. even Jesus could have rejected his mission as it is written in Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. It means even Jesus had a free will. Freewill and God’s sovereignty are not opposed
to each other but run parallel with one other.
Imagine that you are a slave on a ship. You
are chained to the deck below. It is
determined that you row for the captain of this
ship. You have no choice but to be chained to
this ship. This is like God’s sovereignty. But
even here you have freewill. You are free to
row or not to row. If you do not row you
choose to receive beatings by the
quartermaster, but if you row, you choose not
to be beaten. You might even chose to break
free of the ship by escaping your chains, but
God’s sovereignty is not diminished. Case closed.

Just as God is a triune beign, Man also is triune in Nature..Remeber God breathe into man and he became a living SOUL. Now, let's go back to the days of creation when God made man. The Bible says God made man out of the dust of the earth, He practically moulded man, made all the shapes and curves, and gave man a definite shape and at that point, man was inanimate, he was without life, he was immovable AND worthy of note is that when it was time to make man, GOD said let 'US' make man....meaning God the (Father, Son and Spirit) came together and deposited into man their respective DNAs...and he became a living soul. That 'Breathe' is the SPIRIT of man while the moulded dust is his BODY, Now the SOUL is the real man, this soul is where man's intellect, his mind and emotions dwell. Let me try and break it down.

Man is a SPIRIT, He has a SOUL and lives in a BODY

The BODY: this is the part of man that is composed of the five senses; hear, smell, feel, sight and taste. With the body, man is able to survive or thrive in this material world, he is able to interact with his environment and relate with his likes. The body gives the soul shape, it houses the soul and make it tangible...that is one can feel his body.


The SPIRIT: The spirit of man is the part of man that enables him to relate with the spiritual realm. Please note the difference here, the spirit of man is a direct opposite to the body of man. While the body of man gives him the ability to relate with his material world, his spirit gives him the ability to relate with the spiritual realm. God said those that worship must worship me in SPIRIT and in TRUTH....God was refering to the spirit of man. It is only with the spirit that one can discern what God is saying or revealing to his people. And please note, Ideally, the spirit of man and his body are always at par, they are always not on thesame page......hence, the soul.


The SOUL: This is man himself...and this is the part that lives forever, unlike his body that returns to dust (Dust to Dust), this one lives forever. The soul is composed of the mind, the heart and conscience. The spirit and The body has great influence on the soul of a man, they determine the destiny of the soul, here on earth and even in eternity.

I recommend you read this book titled: 'The Spiritual Man' by Watchman Nee...You will get more insight about the nature of man and how these parts are related.

ramalot:


False. You only want to load your answer with the applicable preconceived notion.

That said, did you just evade my original question?
It is practically a yes or no answer. Answer the question.

your question I not logical. meanwhile, I am a Christian, under a new covenant. Google that

Kedam:
That's where u are wrong. Jesus came to this world to save man's soul (fact) from their sin but not animals because they don't need to be saved. Also if animals have no soul why do u think they can feel ur pain and sadness? If animals have no soul why will u talk to a dog to do something which he will certainly do. If animals have no soul why will they see danger and run? If they have no soul why were the israelite told not eat anything strangled. Also what's a living creature?

Fallacy!
These days, there are machines (robots) that can respond to your gestures and even read motives do to programmings. Does that mean that they have souls? The answer is pure no.
Again, everything blood, brain etc. Are biological lives.
I think the point here is that we should learn to differential between biological life(body) and spiritual life(soul).
The spirit in man belongs purely to God and it marks how man is made in the image of God.
Of course, the spirit dwells in the soul and the soul in turns dwells in the body of man.
Animals only have biological life, nothing more!

kinesis:
Take ur time to read verse 15 & 16 first and stop jumping into conclusions. The beast simply refers to d u righteous man. Animals have souls which makes them all distinct and gives character but no animal except man has the spirit of God in them. Read the creation story

It is quite a Shame you quoted me to tell me this. Kindly read all those stuffs with your eyes opened.

consider a computer system unit which has d hard disk to store information, it is powered by electricity, whatever it does when powered is stored in the hard disk for retrieval purpose ...
Likewise, a man comprises of BODY(computer system unit), soul (hard disk) and spirit (electricity) .
When the spirit is taken from man, he becomes lifeless but all he did while alive is stored in the soul which actually faces judgment.
NB; d spirit which makes a man alive is is not a personality but a FORCE of activation of the soul, it goes back to God when man dies....

CONSIDER THE SOUL. You may remember that
the Bible was originally written mainly in
Hebrew and Greek. When writing about the soul,
the Bible writers used the Hebrew word ne
′phesh or the Greek word psy·khe′. These two
words occur well over 800 times in the Scriptures, and the New World Translation
consistently renders them “soul.” When you
examine the way “soul” or “souls” is used in the
Bible, it becomes evident that this word basically
refers to (1) people, (2) animals, or (3) the life that
a person or an animal enjoys. Let us consider some scriptures that present these three different
senses. People. “In Noah’s days . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the
water.” (1 Peter 3:20) Here the word “souls” clearly stands for people—Noah, his wife, his
three sons, and their wives. Exodus 16:16 mentions instructions given to the Israelites
regarding the gathering of manna. They were
told: “Pick up some of it . . . according to the
number of the souls that each of you has in his
tent.” So the amount of manna that was gathered
was based upon the number of people in each family. Some other Biblical examples of the
application of “soul” or “souls” to a person or to
people are found at Genesis 46:18; Joshua 11:11; Acts 27:37; and Romans 13:1. Animals. In the Bible’s creation account, we read: “God went on to say: ‘Let the waters swarm
forth a swarm of living souls and let flying
creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the
expanse of the heavens.’ And God went on to
say: ‘Let the earth put forth living souls according
to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to
its kind.’ And it came to be so.” ( Genesis 1:20, 24) In this passage, fish, domestic animals, and wild
beasts are all referred to by the same word
—“souls.” Birds and other animals are called souls
at Genesis 9:10; Leviticus 11:46; and Numbers 31:28. Life as a person. Sometimes the word “soul” means one’s life as a person. Jehovah told Moses:
“All the men who were hunting for your soul are
dead.” (Exodus 4:19) What were Moses’ enemies hunting for? They were seeking to take Moses’
life. Earlier, while Rachel was giving birth to her
son Benjamin, “her soul was going out (because
she died).” (Genesis 35:16-19) At that time, Rachel lost her life. Consider also Jesus’ words: “I am the
fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his
soul in behalf of the sheep.” (John 10:11) Jesus gave his soul, or life, in behalf of mankind. In
these Bible passages, the word “soul” clearly
refers to life as a person. You will find more
examples of this sense of “soul” at 1 Kings 17:17-23; Matthew 10:39; John 15:13; and Acts 20:10. A further study of God’s Word will show you
that nowhere in the entire Bible are the terms
“immortal” or “everlasting” linked with the word
“soul.” Instead, the Scriptures state that a soul is
mortal, meaning that it dies. (Ezekiel 18:4, 20) Therefore, the Bible calls someone who has died
simply a “dead soul.”—Leviticus 21:11

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SpencerLewis:

@ Prettysheila, the soul, mind, spirit and body are different things. The soul is immortal and reincarnates until it attains perfection, But, the spirit is in everything, living and perhaps non-living too. At transition which the uninitiated calls death the soul is liberated from the individual as the astral cord is severed. It hovers around especially the earth bound souls that enjoyed the pleasures of the flesh while on planet earth. It returns to earth again and again to until it attains perfection or Christ consciousness and becomes a living MASTER. B/c of the pleasures of the earth it difficult attaining so. I'll encourage u without sentiments to read the following books: A thousand years of yesterday and Mansions of the souls(Cosmic conception). Forget about the author. Also, look for Aquarian gospel of Jesus The Christ of the Piscean age,u'll understand more on our individual missions on earth.
Hope I didn't confuse u. Happy Sunday(in honour of Roman god of Sun)

THE “SPIRIT” IDENTIFIED Let us now consider the Bible’s use of the term
“spirit.” Some people think that “spirit” is just
another word for “soul.” However, that is not the
case. The Bible makes clear that “spirit” and
“soul” refer to two different things. How do they
differ? Bible writers used the Hebrew word ru′ach or
the Greek word pneu′ma when writing about
the “spirit.” The Scriptures themselves indicate
the meaning of those words. For instance, Psalm 104:29 states: “If you [Jehovah] take away their spirit [ru′ach], they expire, and back to their dust
they go.” And James 2:26 notes that “the body without spirit [pneu′ma] is dead.” In these
verses, then, “spirit” refers to that which gives
life to a body. Without spirit, the body is dead.
Therefore, in the Bible the word ru′ach is
translated not only as “spirit” but also as “force,”
or life-force. For example, concerning the Flood in Noah’s day, God said: “I am bringing the deluge
of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh
in which the force [ru′ach] of life is active from
under the heavens.” (Genesis 6:17; 7:15, 22) “Spirit” thus refers to an invisible force (the spark
of life) that animates all living creatures. The soul and the spirit are not the same. The
body needs the spirit in much the same way as a
radio needs electricity—in order to function. To
illustrate this further, think of a portable radio.
When you put batteries in a portable radio and
turn it on, the electricity stored in the batteries brings the radio to life, so to speak. Without
batteries, however, the radio is dead. So is
another kind of radio when it is unplugged from
an electric outlet. Similarly, the spirit is the force
that brings our body to life. Also, like electricity,
the spirit has no feeling and cannot think. It is an impersonal force. But without that spirit, or life-
force, our bodies “expire, and back to their dust
they go,” as the psalmist stated. Speaking about man’s death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: “The dust [of his body] returns to the
earth just as it happened to be and the spirit itself
returns to the true God who gave it.” When the
spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies
and returns to where it came from—the earth.
Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from—God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the life-force actually travels
to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone
who dies, any hope of future life rests with
Jehovah God. His life is in God’s hands, so to
speak. Only by God’s power can the spirit, or life-
force, be given back so that a person may live again. How comforting it is to know that this is exactly
what God will do for all of those resting in “the
memorial tombs”! (John 5:28, 29) At the time of the resurrection, Jehovah will form a new body
for a person sleeping in death and bring it to life
by putting spirit, or life-force, in it. What a joyful
day that will be!

Explain Ezekiel 18:4 Explain Psalms 146:4 Ecclesiastical

The soul is different from the Spirit,
The Soul is the Real you,the inner man,the dweller inside the Container(body),the soul lives for ever and it's the Soul that faces Judgements(the bible says every soul that Sinnith,shall die)
The Spirit is the breath of life given by God,so it returns to God when the body dies

Quran.....17:85


Sahih International


And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little."

Ur spirit is wat controls your soul, ur soul controls ur body...



Meanwhile there are two spirits...
1 is evil spirit (ruach rah')
2 is Holy Spirit (Ruach Hakodesh)

...dats all

Kedam:
The spirit is an immaterial part of human being connected to a divine being(God). The spirit brings the connection between man and the divine spirit through which some divine massages are given while some requests are made by man. Through the sprit we relate to God. The spirit is also part of the soul. Everyman has a spirit and soul While the soul refers to the entire human being. Through the soul we could both relate to other humans and even animal, why ? Because they both have a soul. Human and animal have a soul but animals do not have a spirit. The mind,spirit,thoughts,feeling etc are all part of the soul.

Bros l beg to disagree with ur view
eccl. ssidw who knows d spirit of man that goes upward and d spirit of animals that go downward.

for something to be breathing there must be a spirit. animals don't ve soul cos they are not going to give account at d end of life. our souls is our replica in d spirit work

Jesus said it is d spirit that gives life. d flesh profits nothing. do for animals to be moving about they definitely have a spirit

God bless

And the Gods formed man from the dust of the ground,
and took his spirit (that is, the man’s spirit), and put it into him;
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul

And the spirit and the body are the soul of man.

Spirit + Body = Soul

prettysheila:
It has been said that the soul belongs to God while the spirit belongs to man.if u agree with that proposition.Then,can you explain the basis of your argument?

Soul is what keep you alive and give you the consciousness of happenings around you. The Spirit is of God, and it is the part of you that hold the body and soul and which will ressurect to eternal life or the opposite as the case may be. THE SPIRIT IS OF GOD AND WILL RETURN TO HIM FOR JUDGMENT.

denitro:
And the Gods formed man from the dust of the ground,
and took his spirit (that is, the man’s spirit), and put it into him;
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul

And the spirit and the body are the soul of man.

Spirit + Body = Soul

danjumakolo:


Quran.....17:85


Sahih International


And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little."

It's Man = body + soul and spirit.

And

Animals are: body +soul

That's why the Bible says God is spirit and true worshippers can only worship him in Spirit. Worship minus Spirit is canal, and the canal minded can't please God.