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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 4:54pm On Mar 05, 2015
Msauza:


The fact that your pilots are not trained up to standard mercenaries were needed dummy.

Nigerian pilots are the most experienced pilots south of the sahara my friend and often come tops in foreign academies, so take your mumuness elsewhere.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:55pm On Mar 05, 2015
iterator24:

all those Nigerian media referenced SA media.. quoting your defense minister specifically.

Game over.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:56pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


Nigerian pilots are the most experienced pilots south of the sahara my friend and often come tops in foreign academies, so take your mumuness elsewhere.


Yet, old apartheid pilots are cruising with their jets.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 4:57pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


Do you knows how many reports on theNigerian insurgency we have seen and laughed at because of their inaccuracies? No they wouldn't have the resources if BH had focused on Chad , they would have crumbled a long time ago. They are only making progress because BH are being engaged by the NA on multiple fronts and have been degraded by months of bombardment and SF attacks that go unreported.

Unless you understand the concerted effort to discredit Nigeria from various sources and interested parties, you will continue to be misled. But we know.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 4:59pm On Mar 05, 2015
Msauza:



Yet, old apartheid pilots are cruising with their jets.

Comical grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:59pm On Mar 05, 2015
saengine:


How is this a contradiction?

Humour me!

Abuja reportedly got cleared with South-Africa's top government echelon but your "minister of defence" isn't aware.

So, who's your government top echelon, it's pretty clear South-Africa runs a banana republic government.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:00pm On Mar 05, 2015
iterator24:
100 soldiers playing a major role in a state the size of scotland...hahahaha..

As military advisors, trainers, pilots. It's very possible. Such sizes of military trainers have been used before in countless other examples. Is the war on Boko Haram on a front/combat area the size of Scotland? Or much smaller? Did you think about this comment before posting? I highly doubt.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:03pm On Mar 05, 2015
iterator24:

all those Nigerian media referenced SA media.. quoting your defense minister specifically.

In summary, because they referenced south african media, nigerian media cannot be trusted to know what they are talking about.

They are so unprofessional that they just publish anything and present it as fact without knowing whether they can stand by their stories.

Ok, great. That says a lot.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:05pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


In summary, because they referenced south african media, nigerian media cannot be trusted to know what they are talking about.

They are so unprofessional that they just publish anything and present it as fact without knowing whether they can stand by their stories.

Ok, great. That says a lot.

Well done. You got it first time. The same local media that parrots foreign reports on their own country mostly for political reasons.

Welldone, there is hope for you yet.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:06pm On Mar 05, 2015
Henry120:


Humour me!

Abuja reportedly got cleared with South-Africa's top government echelon but your "minister of defence" isn't aware.

So, who's your government top echelon, it's pretty clear South-Africa runs a banana republic government.

You don't make any sense.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:08pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


Comical grin grin

Yes, I agree so comical to know that Nigeria has no competent pilots. Bwahahahaha!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:09pm On Mar 05, 2015
Henry120:


Humour me!

Abuja reportedly got cleared with South-Africa's top government echelon but your "minister of defence" isn't aware.

So, who's your government top echelon, it's pretty clear South-Africa runs a banana republic government.

Ex SADF members, even though former soldiers, are NOT members of the SANDF. They do not report to anyone within the SANDF...they are civilians. The high level clearance between governments could simply be the acknowledgement between governments that South African citizens will be dealing with the Nigerian Military. So that Abuja and Pretoria are aware of what's going on....say for example if a South African gets killed.


Our Minister of Defence will understanably be angry. From the Iraqi to Afghan wars, the defence minister has always threatened to arrest SA civilians working as mercenaries. Even though there are hundreds in those countries.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:10pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:

Well done. You got it first time. The same local media that parrots foreign reports on their own country mostly for political reasons.
Welldone, there is hope for you yet.

Therefore, nothing coming from Nigerian media can be trusted. They are "copy and paste" units who cannot stand by the stories that they publish.

I got it alright.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:12pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


Therefore, nothing coming from Nigerian media can be trusted. They are copy and paste units who cannot stand by the stories that they publish.

I got it alright.

Give yourself a round of applause (clap for yourself).

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:12pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


Give yourself a round of applause (clap for yourself).

Meanwhile, the world of media sells stories to each other with organisations such as Reuters, Sapa and others selling and buying stories. CNN, BBC you name it, buy stories. Journalistic integrity requires that you stand by the stories that you buy and publish.

Per your post, Nigerians don't have the journalistic integrity. Like blind bats they just publish without thought and they can be challenged on the grounds that they did not originate the stories.

No one else in the world can be challenged on that basis. Only the unprofessional Nigerians can be challenged on this basis.

I got it.

Thank you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:14pm On Mar 05, 2015
saengine:
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Ex-SA-soldiers-playing-major-role-in-fight-against-Boko-Haram-20150305

Ex-SA soldiers 'playing major role in fight against Boko Haram


[b]Cape Town – Former South African Defence Force soldiers are reportedly playing a major role in the fight against Boko Haram extremists in Nigeria after they were hired by the west African country.

According to the Institute for Security Studies(ISS) several ex-South African Air Force (SAAF) pilots were also participating in the war against the Islamist insurgents.The report said the South African team together with other military experts from Britain, United States and France had contributed significantly to the recent successes of the Lake Chad Basin Commission forces against Boko Haram.

"The former SADF members are definitely playing a major role in this offensive. They have been in country for a significant time already, involved in training some specialised NDF [Nigerian Defence Forces] units," a former military intelligence was quoted as saying.

Beeld reported in January that the former SA soldiers were to form the core of a multinational team of private military experts to fight Boko Haram.The report, at the time, said that the 100-strong team had been tasked with training the Nigerian military in a massive campaign against the terrorist organisation.

This came after a Nigerian presidential security adviser stated that Nigeria's campaign against Boko Haram was being hampered by "cowards" within the armed forces, signalling dissatisfaction with how the military is handling the situation.  But Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakuladismissed the so called former SADF soldiers as mercenaries and said that they should be arrested when they return home.

"The police have a responsibility to ensure that, when they come back, those people are arrested and the [National Prosecutions Authority] has a responsibility to charge them. There are consequences for going out of the country and provide any form of military assistance as a mercenary, not as part of the deployment by government," Mapisa-Ngqakula was quoted as saying.

Abuja has reportedly insisted that the deal had been cleared with President Jacob Zuma – and the ex-SADF soldiers now in Nigeria have likewise also insisted that their involvement was cleared at the highest echelons of the South African government, even if the defence minister did not know about it.

I never got into this discussion before. Just find it interesting that more details seem to be coming out.


[size=13pt]More details? Rubbish. Still a recycle of the same story from one private man Mr.Bleeds who has no proof of his mercenary story.

Anybody with a news web page online can write any fake story he likes.

Ugandan news papers published story that Ugandan army has mobilized full battalion ready to help Nigeria to be deployed in combat against Boko Haram in February, now this is March and no Ugandan army has moved one inch.

Show us photos of SANDF mercenaries in Nigeria because both SANDF and Nigerian DHQ denied it.

Your source says the SA is training NDF Nigerian Defence Forces and that name does NOT exist in Nigeria, what you call more details is actually more errors....NDF does not exist in Nigeria, i think your mercenaries are missing somewhere lost inside Mandela's Kruger Park chasing Rhino Poachers
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:17pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


Meanwhile, the world of media sells stories to each other with organisations such as Reuters, Sapa and others selling stories. Journalistic integrity requires that you stand by the stories that you buy and publish.

Per your post, Nigerians don't have the journalistic integrity. Like blind bats they just publish without thought and they can be challenged on the grounds that they did not originate the stories.

No one else in the world can be challenged on that basis.

I got it.

Thank you.

You are getting better and better. They cut and paste and merely quote the foreign reporters. Hardley any investigative journalism and little understanding of the defence sector.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:19pm On Mar 05, 2015
Msauza:

Chad is the best and powerful military in west Africa. SA rules southern part of Africa.
if you ever see a unit of the chadian army,you will be very shocked at the lack of training,discipline and equipment.
All they have is experience fighting al quaeda in north/central africa{largely because many of the terrorists in north/west/central africa are chadians}.
chad is enjoying fickle popularity because the problem at hand is in direct link with Nigeria.
Every talented storyteller with a dramatic flair for conspiracy theory loves to write about how a giant nation crumbled to it knees,and how a humble poor weak nation came to save the day.they churn out the same cliche hero and vallian stories that fuels the raging appetite of the weak minded populace.
But the fact remains,power is greater than power,if you dont know,you will soon know.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:21pm On Mar 05, 2015
saengine:


I find such comments interesting. Why not just ignore it? Where there's smoke, there's fire. The ISS knows far more than you about the security/defence situation in Africa, and have thousands of more sources.

This report is rubbish because Henry120 says so. Okay :-)

Your recycled mercenary story is a fat lie, it blew it.self into pieces by saying South African, American, French, and British forces are all inside Nigeria....Nigerian army does not train with France and American training was cancelled in 2014 many months ago.

You post garbage because that's the bottom level your thinking faculty is stuck to perpetually. I don't expect intelligent thinking from a South African, your white-master banned you from that level of brainwork 100 years ago and that mental embargo is not yet lifted, it will require series of prayer and fasting deliverance sessions for many decades
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:24pm On Mar 05, 2015
agaugust:



[size=13pt]More details? Rubbish. Still a recycle of the same story from one private man Mr.Bleeds who has no proof of his mercenary story.

Anybody with a news web page online can write any fake story he likes.

Ugandan news papers published story that Ugandan army has mobilized full battalion ready to help Nigeria to be deployed in combat against Boko Haram in February, now this is March and no Ugandan army has moved one inch.

Show us photos of SANDF mercenaries in Nigeria because both SANDF and Nigerian DHQ denied it.

Your source says the SA is training NDF Nigerian Defence Forces and that name does NOT exist in Nigeria, what you call more details is actually more errors....NDF does not exist in Nigeria, i think your mercenaries are missing somewhere lost inside Mandela's Kruger Park chasing Rhino Poachers
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Institute of security studies confirmed it dummy.




http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/business-as-unusual-goodluck-jonathan-privatises-nigerian-relations-with-south-africa
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:24pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


You are getting better and better. They cut and paste and merely quote the foreign reporters. Hardley any investigative journalism and little understanding of the defence sector.

Even Africa has its own organisations that sell its stories, but ONLY Nigeria is NOT allowed to buy the stories because they don't know what they are doing.

Everyone else can be trusted to have the integrity to know how to handle foreign content responsibly. Not Nigeria though. You make sense. This explains why nigeria has a low free press score. They are mindless wanna-be journalists who can't be allowed to have journalistic freedoms. Perfect sense. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigeria-joins-journalist-danger-list-on-world-press-freedom-day-8601601.html

http://www.apo-opa.com

From today when you quote them on Nigerian "victories", we will refer you to these proud and well thought-out posts of yours. No one should use reports from Nigerian journalists. The unprofessional sods.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:27pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


Even Africa has its own organisations that sell its stories, but ONLY Nigeria is NOT allowed to buy the stories because they don't know what they are doing.

Everyone else can be trusted to have the integrity to know how to handle foreign content responsibly. Not Nigeria though. You make sense. This explains why nigeria has a low free press score. They are mindless wanna-be journalists who can't be allowed to have journalistic freedoms. Perfect sense.

http://www.apo-opa.com

To prove my point wait until the next fake Western based article appears and give it a day or so and you will see for yourelf what happens in the local media.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:28pm On Mar 05, 2015
saengine:


A nigerian website wrote a similar article aswell. You ignored that too. So the problem isnt the articles.

Same one and only Mr.Bleeds story being recycled by dozens of online sources doing copy and paste.....or all those 20 news sources all personally saw the SA mercenaries....like the mercenaries travelled around the world into 20 news media offices to show themselves to journalist so the story can be confirmed and published.

Who ever saw those mercenaries and asked them if they were going to Nigeria, who ever met those mercenaries before publishing the story?

Anyway you said this forum is full of silly information, so this is just one of them....garbage
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:28pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


To prove my point wait until the next fake Western based article appears and give it a day or so and you will see for yourelf what happens n the local media.



Yes I agree. Never mind that the self-same westerns media houses also buy stories from us. You are so clever, hey. The western media can buy stories from us, but God forbid should Nigeria by anyone's story. That is just unacceptable. Who do nigerian media think they are using foreign sources? They should rather always travel and report on location . Yes, that's it. Nigerians should ALWAYS got to the four corners of the globe where there are stories and report on the themselves.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:33pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


Even Africa has its own organisations that sell its stories, but ONLY Nigeria is NOT allowed to buy the stories because they don't know what they are doing.

Everyone else can be trusted to have the integrity to know how to handle foreign content responsibly. Not Nigeria though. You make sense. This explains why nigeria has a low free press score. They are mindless wanna-be journalists who can't be allowed to have journalistic freedoms. Perfect sense. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigeria-joins-journalist-danger-list-on-world-press-freedom-day-8601601.html

http://www.apo-opa.com

From today when you quote them on Nigerian "victories", we will refer you to these proud and well thought-out posts of yours. No one should use reports from Nigerian journalists. The unprofessional sods.

They quote defence HQ, so they can't make it up. Why do you think Major General Olukolae continually asks them to verify their stories before publishing?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:33pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


They quote defence HQ, so they can't make it up. Why do you think Major General Olukolade continually asks them to verify their stories before publishing?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:36pm On Mar 05, 2015
Any more questions, leave your messagesand I will get back to you soon. cool

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:36pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:


They quote defence HQ, so they can't make it up. Why do you think Major General Olukolae continually asks them to verify their stories before publishing?


Exactly man. In fact, from today henceforth the general himself should spend his time speaking to every single Nigerian himself. If it means that he will never sleep, so be it. Nx! We cannot have Nigerian journalists serve the public by making information accessible. They can't be trusted. We want the General and the general alone. Who wants to read a newspaper anyway when Nigerian universities know nothing about training...journalists? The backwardness.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:38pm On Mar 05, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:43pm On Mar 05, 2015
rka1:
http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/cae-aviation-seeks-ties-with-the-nigerian-military/

More aid to the hapless Nigeria.

CAE-AVIATION Luxembourg, a leading European based Aviation Company has sought ties with the Nigerian Armed Forces in providing full turnkey Airborne Ground Surveillance and Reconnaissance services (AGSR) to aid flight operations and intelligence gathering, especially in the maritime sector.

- See more at: http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/cae-aviation-seeks-ties-with-the-nigerian-military/#sthash.f87oLsxJ.dpuf
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:44pm On Mar 05, 2015
DieVluit:


Exactly man. In fact, from today henceforth the general himself should spend his time speaking to every single Nigerian himself. If it means that he will never sleep, so be it. Nx! We cannot have Nigerian journalists serve the public by making information accessible. They can't be trusted. We want the General and the general alone. Who wants to read a newspaper anyway when Nigerian universities know nothing about training...journalists? The backwardness.

Whatever tickles your fancy my man grin

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