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Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 12:28pm On Dec 21, 2008
yay! fans!   grin

i learned from the best: Texazzpete.

of course, the iphone Elites on Nairaland include Logica and Naijfan as well.

without those guys the numerous iphone threads wont be here.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by texazzpete(m): 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2008
lol, as if being the noisiest fanboy = the best.

If that was true, Nintendo wouldn't have made that crappy wii. i mean, it's true they are selling like hotcakes but the sub par graphics have alienated many of their most vocal fans, including myself. I am now reduced to begging piteously for people to play wii sports with me.  grin

The Nokia 5800 is about hitting lagos. Expect more challenge from Nokia fanboys who'll now be suddenly in love with touchscreen phones grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2008
texazzpete:

lol, as if being the noisiest fanboy = the best.

gasp! you a fanboy all this while? why you-.

ive been betrayed, conned, cheated, deceived, lied to. oh, the pain!

seriously, your noisy fanboyism kept the Nokia a55h0735 ranting incoherently and subsequently kept the threads alive. and remeber the endless links, breaking news, heads-up etc you fed me over the phone and here? well that kept me in tune with everything iphone.

so dont be dumb, accept the credit due you and wallow in it.

meanwhile im yet to receive your empathy on my busted iphone.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 1:49pm On Dec 21, 2008
Oh you guys know that too? I mean abt pete?

hey petE i gat a friend who's on NL cos of u and he has gone through almost all ur posts and he had one question: did u meet this guy in person? He thinks u is a robot grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 2:24pm On Dec 21, 2008
cabali:

Oh you guys know that too? I mean about pete?

hey petE i gat a friend who's on NL because of u and he has gone through almost all ur posts and he had one question: did u meet this guy in person? He thinks u is a robot grin


your friend sounds like a stalker. scary. what is he, Marvin GAYE? if you catch my drift. wink
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by texazzpete(m): 3:07pm On Dec 21, 2008
@Inferis
Haba! don't scare him away na! You know if the guy go give me money? I need bailout package ASAP, this trip cost the earth, and the worst thing is that i've started making plans to send for more cash from Naija after i stupidly blundered into a huge gadget shop over here.

lol

@Cabali
U tell your friend that i'm less impressive in real life. Then again, aren't we all? grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by texazzpete(m): 3:10pm On Dec 21, 2008
Apple have made it impossible for me to continue using 2.1 firmware. SO many new Appstore apps just aren't compatible with 2.1 right now, only work with 2.2. I didn't want to lose all my cydia apps just for Street View i'd never use and several vague 'performance fixes' etc.

Still reading into Aptbackup to see if it works as promised.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 3:43pm On Dec 21, 2008
texazzpete:

@Inferis
I need bailout package ASAP, this trip cost the earth, and the worst thing is that i've started making plans to send for more cash from Naija after i stupidly blundered into a huge gadget shop over here.

you sound like GM, Chrysler, and Ford.



see what idleness wrought below.

Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 9:49pm On Dec 21, 2008
texazzpete:

@Inferis
Haba! don't scare him away na! You know if the guy go give me money? I need bailout package ASAP, this trip cost the earth

LMAO!! Well its ur lucky day. This is the bailout season!! U're next!!
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by Pittbaby(f): 8:59pm On Dec 22, 2008
not to take you off topic , anybody know a reliable source in Lagos for unlocking the Iphone 3g .
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by naijafan(m): 10:00pm On Dec 22, 2008
Pittbaby:

not to take you off topic , anybody know a reliable source in Lagos for unlocking the Iphone 3g .

Na, you cant be off=topic. this is the iPhone thread grin. If you can be patient enough to wait till december 31st, then you should be able to unlock your 3G yourself following simplecertain instructions. hope your 3G isnt on 2.2 firmware yet.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 10:38am On Dec 23, 2008
@naijafan

so what if it is on 2.2 firmware? My brother's gat one on 2.2. what happens
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by logica(m): 11:02am On Dec 23, 2008
there r ppl who've claimed some 2.2-to-2.1 downgrade instructions worked for them. the main problem has been the bb doesn't seem 2 downgrade along with the OS.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 1:04pm On Dec 23, 2008
baseband downgrade always scares me. remember the fiasco in the days of 1.1.2, before Geohot's unlock? remember disabled/blank basebands, messed up IMEI, bricks etc?

me, im comfortable enough on 2.1 until the expected january 2009 update of the DevTeam 3G unlock.

ps: seen the video on their blog? MuscleNerd makes it look effortless, like months of hardwork wasnt there. whats the word, "anticlimax".

this must rank as the easiest unlock so far.

meanwhle Quickpwn 2.2 contains an unlock option for 1st gen iphones. no need for winpwn (thank God).


cabali:

@naijafan

so what if it is on 2.2 firmware? My brother's gat one on 2.2. what happens


what happens is he's currently out of luck as far as software-unlocking the 3G. Yellowsnow works only on the 2.11.07 baseband and previous basebands.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by naijafan(m): 11:01pm On Dec 23, 2008
@Ex
thanks for answering the question. By the way, i think the winpwn project has been discontinued or there is no motivation for the developer.

quickpwn is more like ziphone of the 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 days. seriously easy to use. ok, except for the part where you have to follow timed instructions about putting the phone in DFU mode. wink
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 10:12am On Dec 24, 2008
cmw, the author of winpwn, has moved completely to linux on the iphone.


also, Xiphone will never get released, it seems, stuck perpetually in development hell,


naijafan:

@Ex

quickpwn is more like ziphone of the 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 days. seriously easy to use. ok, except for the part where you have to follow timed instructions about putting the phone in DFU mode. wink


tee heee, i do recall that frustration.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by Djcn: 2:03pm On Dec 24, 2008
Many at time when i hear of the iphone, i ask is it really a smartphone? Is the phone just being overhyped by naija guys?

Apple has spent so much on its advertising campaigns of the iphone and its applications and that gave it a rush for many customers of the product. myself not exempted. Well the phone is really cool with its wide range of applications. But sometimes Apple and its fans take it too far and that is why the Phone have suffered advertising bans in the United Kingdom for overhyping and have received adverts warnings in other countries afters consumers made series of complains which did not meet their demands as promoted by the adverts. Which way forward for the iphone, sure still freaks, but just as it is, simple and cool and nothing more.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 3:58pm On Dec 24, 2008
<yawn>


douche baggism
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by Muza(m): 5:24pm On Dec 24, 2008
its been a while since i came to this side, grin
how y'all doing?
Still wont give up on the Iphone? grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 3:38pm On Dec 25, 2008
well the current complexion of posts on this thread gives u an answer to that grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by flyuche(m): 5:54pm On Dec 26, 2008
iphone. you make call, receive call, send text, receive text. then listen to music,watch videos, play games, surf, my cheap but cool E51 can do all that.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 10:02am On Dec 27, 2008
flyuche:

iphone. you make call, receive call, send text, receive text. then listen to music,watch videos, play games, surf, my cheap but cool E51 can do all that.

ah, but your "cheap" e51 cant do multitiouch, accelerometer, proximity sensing, touch navigation etc.

Nokia E51 is uglier than Betty.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by flyuche(m): 10:29am On Dec 27, 2008
Ex Inferis:

ah, but your "cheap" e51 can't do multitiouch, accelerometer, proximity sensing, touch navigation etc.

Nokia E51 is uglier than Betty.


multitouch? nah. my keypad responds just as well. accelerometer,proximity sensing, etc, if only all these will improve network quality, you know what? send me mms of a short video clip done on your iphone. grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by logica(m): 11:36am On Dec 27, 2008
lol. dude u r out of luck if u r trying 2 prove an archaic point (the point expired sometime around the mesozoic era). u can send MMS from the iphone, if u know how 2 do it.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by Muza(m): 2:35pm On Dec 27, 2008
flyuche:

multitouch? nah. my keypad responds just as well. accelerometer,proximity sensing, etc, if only all these will improve network quality, you know what? send me mms of a short video clip done on your iphone. grin

Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by flyuche(m): 9:20am On Dec 28, 2008
I have always known Steve Jobs is a schizophrenic innovator, so he succeeded in putting an accelerometer in a phone. What should we expect in the next version? Speedometer, clutch, gear level, brake pedal, wiper,radiator, A/C, or headlamps,? grin
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 10:50pm On Dec 28, 2008
uche your argument is kinda weak. Just drop it for now
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by ExInferis(m): 10:35am On Dec 29, 2008
he's just sore because he cant afford an iphone.
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by flyuche(m): 1:57pm On Dec 29, 2008
Ex Inferis:

he's just sore because he can't afford an iphone.
i know what i spend my money to buy. not on some girlish toy. alot  of unemployed youths own one. they even had to queue [/b]for [b]hours to get one. see what JOBLESSNESS can cause
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by flyuche(m): 4:07pm On Dec 29, 2008
"If Apple does it, it must be right." That's the refrain of lemming-like mobile companies, all desperately trying to follow the iPhone's touch-screen lead. The touch-screen fad isn't just in mobile, of course; as you read here on PCMag.com often, it seems that everyone is thinking of throwing away their keyboards and mice for big glass panels that go bump in the night.

Huge mistake.

The problem isn't touch screens; touch screens have existed for years. It's the pernicious idea that touch-screen-only interfaces will gobble up all other input devices. It's painful to watch folks at Microsoft's mobile division throw away all their non-touch-screen devices and obsessively chase the iPhone, for instance. Because touch screens—at least the way they work today—are actually less tactile than keyboards.

We experience the world with at least six senses. The world of electronic entertainment has played up sight and hearing at the cost of the rest, but smell, touch, taste and proprioception/kinesthesia (the knowledge of body position and motion) still play major roles in what we, as humans, consider reality. This is one reason why "virtual reality" environments like Second Life have never taken off other than with folks who want to escape their own physical bodies. If your physical reality is essentially pleasant, then to walk through a world made only of sight and sound is to cripple yourself by choice. It's also one of the many reasons the Nintendo Wii is so successful—it uses the kinesthetic sense in ways the PS3 doesn't.

The missing senses also play a role in why "live meetings" don't feel alive and "teleconferencing" doesn't feel like attending a conference. Deep in our animal brains, we think of reality as something that engages all the senses. You may not like the way a co-worker smells, but that smell makes her more real to you, whether you consciously think about it or not. I love cell phones, but when a friend of mine signs off phone calls with "thanks for the visit," I wince a little. A phone call isn't a visit. Visits use more senses.

And so we get to touch screens. Touch screens are actually touch-less screens; they're an unintuitive illusion that we accept because computer interfaces are chock full of metaphors and unintuitive illusions. We're tool-using mammals; we interact with physical objects. As I'm typing this, I feel the ridges of the keys, the different smooothnesses of the letters and the wrist rest, and the throw of the scissor hinges below the plastic parts. I hear the click as the buttons go down and sense the motion of my fingers confirming the action.

When you press a button on an iPhone, you feel nothing. Every button feels the same: nothing. Every action feels the same: nothing. There's a certain effortless liberty in that—since the heavy lifting is now all virtual, you feel like you can lift tons. But you've just given up at least one of your senses. You can't dial with your eyes closed any more: the interface is all sight and sound. No touch. A touchless interface.

This is one of the reasons why we don't yet have the famous Minority Report information interface. In that movie, Tom Cruise donned special gloves to interact with an awesome PC interface where you literally grab windows and toss them around the screen. But that interface is impractical without the proper feedback—without actually being able to feel where the edges of the windows are.

Touch screen makers (especially those at Synaptics) aren't stupid, so they're trying to find ways around the problem. Haptics makes things vibrate in response to touches; unfortunately, handheld haptics so far has been pretty crappy. RIM's BlackBerry Storm click-screen actually gives a touch screen a physical aspect, which is brilliant but very much a version-1.0 idea. The technology is just not there yet.

Touch screens can also restrict form factors, making interfaces surprisingly more awkward to use. On mobile devices, you need at least a 9-mm target area to be able to click something with your finger—that dictates a lot of iPhone-like large slabs with big interface elements and fewer small, pocketable devices. On PCs, a touch-oriented interface can create a lot of awkward hand and arm movement from one location to another. I interact with my laptop with a lot of subtle twitches; fingers between keys, thumb reaching down to the trackpad. To have to reach up to the screen to pop down menus would slow me down.

Obviously we can psych ourselves into accepting the minuses of touch-screen interfaces in exchange for the many pluses, such as enabling larger displays and dynamically configured pseudo-keyboards. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking there are no minuses. Adopting touch screens as a religion, right now, throws away one of our senses; to me, that just sounds senseless.
from Sascha Segan, PCmag
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 9:57pm On Dec 29, 2008
source pls grin tongue
Re: The Apple iPhone Thread by cabali(m): 10:01pm On Dec 29, 2008
Ex Inferis:

he's just sore because he can't afford an iphone.

that was below the belt ex. grin

meanwhile did you read his follow-up post? Got tired at half of it. should be able to continue l8r

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