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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 3:48pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunfly: Lol bro it happens. You should not leave Yoruba history o, keep on reading and reading, there's a lot to discover in it for self-discovery as a Yoruba person. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by IDeyNL: 3:50pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
ibedun: Ibedun, why bring the Igbos into this discuss? Why do you want to ruin this thread? Don't start tribalism. And a moderator is on this thread without doing any thing. Please be guided. 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by seunfly: 3:52pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
9jacrip: One of this days I will try go home and get this books. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by reborn1: 3:53pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd44: He is not the Oba of all Lagos state. He is just the chairman of all Obas in Lagos, they even classify him as Oba Island and Oloto of otto as Oba mainland. He does not have influence in Badagry, Epe and even Ikorodu. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 3:54pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
9jacrip:There is no such thing as Yorubaland.Maybe people need to go back and restudy.Note I did not say reread so called Yoruba history .One of the major objectors to the formation of Egbe Omo Oduduwa did so on the grounds that,in his belief, Not everyone is Omo Oduduwa. We need to be clear about what is an Oyo narrative and then to understand that there are alternatives less ubiquitous but equally valid.Nigeria makes it necessary for us to identify as Yoruba but to say we are Yoruba has about as much validity as trying to unite all Arabs in one nation. Oduduwa was probably Edo or even Kanuri and was able through his sons to establish a dynasty but it was not all encompassing 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Pebcak: 3:57pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
KIRIJI: Wa gbayi |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
This is when Obas where not in the pockets of politicians and not taking bribes. Oba Lil Wayne should stop desecrating the Royal Stool with his greedy affiliation with politics and politicians. 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by SirShymexx: 4:04pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
reborn1: Lol. That was what I was trying to tell him discreetly without derailing the thread - but it seems the youngin' just loves like arguing to hear what he sounds like. Lool 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by aresa: 4:08pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
LAGrejectIBO: Dont know what you are talking about. Check your own facts. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by reborn1: 4:10pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Lolz. It seems Myndd is from Isale Eko. However, I think people mistake him for the Oba of all Lagos state Obas cos of the tittle Oba of Lagos. There is difference between Lagos and Lagos state, Eleko is just Oba of Lagos and Permanent Chairman of all Lagos state Obas. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by reborn1: 4:12pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
[s] Billyonaire:[/s] Virtual billionaire, you cant derail this lovely thread. Try again later. 13 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:12pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Yes, you are right that not every town or kingdoms descended from Oduduwa - pre oduduwa period, some towns were already in existence or came into existence at the dame time such as Igbomina but saying there is no such thing as Yoruba land is debatable. My argument is that, linguistically towns in western Nigerian are all wired together, kingship structure as well as war and diplomatic relations over the years - which spread as far as Benin and Togo. Those factors and some others have forged us into a single unit. And if you are arguing Yoruba as an encompassing nomenclature then every town asides Oyo could detach itself from being called Yoruba but then what do we call ourselves after eons of shared history? I think the spread of the use of Oduduwa name was due to conquests of his sons and acclaimed sons, Oyo conquests and kings seeking to validate their thrones but then, we have all, over many centuries evolved to become Yoruba. 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:13pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunfly: Please do bro. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nduchucks: 4:23pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
LAGrejectIBO: Nonsense!! What native and customary law can override the constitution and allow Governors and the President to use unbudgeted and illegal government funds to essentially buy the support of the Obas and Emirs? There is no room for such customary laws in the current dispensation. Archaic customary laws which support nonsense must be jettisoned. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:23pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
reborn1:Are you Oba Lil Wayne ? Why do you support him and not me, your fellow nairalander. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 4:25pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
9jacrip:being wire together maybe single unit definitely not .At least not any more that the arabs of Yemen and Saudi Arabia or Morocco and Tunisia. That same single unit argument is equally true for Nigeria as distinct from Ghana.There is acually such a thing as a NIGERIAN ACCENT. If one looks hard enough Mr Ibu is quite handsome you just need to concentrate |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nduchucks: 4:25pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunmsg: Thanks. The states should also include entries in their budgets to fund these Obas and Emirs, instead of illegally using the people's money to buy favors from the Obas and illegally influence elections. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Rilwayne001: 4:26pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Billyonaire: Whats this one saying? 8 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by zimoni(f): 4:26pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
guy1234: Contact Prof Kiriji, Prof Katsomoto or Prof Macof. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nduchucks: 4:26pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd44: I agree with you. The bolded is what currently obtains in every state and must be eradicated. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:27pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
reborn1: Most/many people do not know this but I do not blame them. The idejo have been so relegated to the shadows of Eleko or Eko (Lagos Island) that people think him to be the shot caller of the entire cultural sphere of the state. If the Idejo families start coming upfront and placing themselves in the fore front of Lagos politically and socially, I do not think people would confuse the place and roles of Eleko nor question the status of Lagos as a people's land as opposed to no man's land. 4 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nduchucks: 4:32pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
ibedun: Again it is not enough to make assertions unsupported by facts and expect us to believe you. Here is your opportuniuty to show us a single budgetary provision for Obas in any SW state's budget in the last 15 years. I will withdraw my statement if you do that and expect you to withdraw yours if you cannot provide any evidence to support your statement. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:33pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
guy1234: Samuel Johnson Prof Ade Ajayi Saburi Biobaku Prof Toyin Falola Daniel O Fagunwa Prof Kunle Lawal (Lagos History) These are some I can recall now, they have a number of hot works under their belts. Google their names and you'll find their works but I'll recommend you go to UI or OaU bookshop in order to find purchase. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:37pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Bro, I get your point. Chronological historical dynamics of Yoruba and Arabs are very different. Even our kin in Benin Republic and Togo strongly identify with us and at a point Awolowo I think raised the issue of unifying us as a single entity but with borders drawn and government set up, what unifies us across borders include but not limited to language, belief system, kingship system, social structure etc. 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by zimoni(f): 4:37pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd, you've successfully changed the destiny of this thread. Okare Laye. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Zeus777: 4:39pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunfly:ur assertion shows u REALY do not understand the yoruba tradition and spirituality. Esu isn't in anyway thesame as satan. Mythology or reality , they are different entity 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by mmsen: 4:46pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd44: What purpose do they serve? How are their activities funded? |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 4:46pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
9jacrip:Arabs STRONGLY identify with each other they even have an Arab league,went to war with israel because of Palestine and Saudis bank roll Egypt. Chronology ? I am afraid I do not see the relevance. The point I am making is that there was never a Yoruba Nation just as there never was an Arab Nation.For those bits that fell under Oyo the relationship was of a vassal bringing TRIBUTE. It was an Empire not a Nation. There are countless examples of such AFFINITIES e.g Scots and English etc Now in 1891 there was a Census in Lagos and people identified themselves by ethnic group s Ijebu,Egba,Ekiti Nupe etc Yoruba not recorded? Was this a coincidence. The people who were known as Yoruba were OYO. Outside Nigeria which you refer to they are called Anago and not Yoruba. There is an encysted population in Ugbodu,Delta state of Lucumi speakers they decline to be called Yoruba not because they are being oppositional but because they know their history and they are NOT Yoruba just as thousands of Hausa speakers in Northern Nigeria are not Hausa . It is important to study history well to understand how nations and empires come about and the role that proximity plays.We are told in the Bible that Jesus was a Jew but what language did he actually speak and WHY? 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by reborn1: 4:47pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
9jacrip: You are absolutely right. The Ojoras, Onikoyis, Onirus, Aromire, Oluwas and even the Otos are just watching by the sides which is very bad. 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by blessedapple: 4:49pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
KIRIJI: Is this a woman? |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by TonySpike: 4:49pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Hey Bro! |
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